Spyke

The Minnesota political assassinations were less than 3 months ago.

These fuckers are just freaked out that the people they encourage their followers to shoot may be starting to shoot back.

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lemmy.zip

We didn't know who shot Kirk. The last few attempts on Republicans were also conducted by Republicans.

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sh.itjust.works

Maga was spreading the news that the shooter was a liberal within minutes. The vast majority will believe that they're under attack by liberals despite any news or facts to the contrary. Anything else will be viewed as another conspiracy.

Reality is not a place where Maga and Fox News live.

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I'm aware they'll lie about. Just saying we shouldn't boost that narrative. Not while no one knows who did this

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The shooter could be a live long Republican with the parents, spouse, and kids all being Republicans. They could have the dog trained to attack minorities and they could be someone that was very publicly vocal about every and all Republican talking points.

But they'd find a single photo where they are wearing a blue shirt and say they've secretly been a Democrat all their life.

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AlexLostreply
lemmy.world

Even if it turns out to be a liberal, that'd make what, 1 in 10 shooters being on the left? 1 in 100? It's clearly a lefty gun epidemic. If only Republicans could read... Also, no one will ever be caught for this one. That way they can speculate to high heaven and never be wrong.

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If it doesn't matter if the shooter is conservative, it doesn't matter if the shooter is progressive.

We need to stop making things matter when they don't. Who cares what the shooter was. They never do.

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Or brainwashed by leftists. The idea of a Republican harming a Republican seems to short-circuit them, like a robot with a paradox.

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Yep. I saw someone comment on the shooting earlier today on one of the mainstream articles - first commenter says "liberal violence needs to stop", next commenter says "both attempts on donnie were Republicans", third commenter denies that (I'm pretty sure the shooter that broke glass near donnie was a con, not sure about the other guy that set up a backpack near one of his golf courses, but he didn't even get off a shot).

They already think the guy that had Taco wearing that performative bandage for weeks on end because of broken glass nearby was a liberal.

Facts don't matter to these clowns. At all.

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No_Eponymreply
lemmy.ca

Certainly he will be the matter they use to unify the Republicans and move on from the Epstein Files

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lemmy.world

It's probably a disgruntled MAGAt, although the fact that they are still at large probably means they are too smart to have been a MAGAt.

Then again, if it were a white male with a red hat they probably could have slipped in and out pretty easily. Has anyone done the math on how far the shot was?

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IMO it doesn't matter who it is any more than it matters that vaccines are safe, Magats will make up their own story. 20 years of social media saying the guy's a hard right nutcase will just be considered a liberal conspiracy.

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"Hey! You guys are supposed to be the ones against guns! You're not allowed to shoot US!"

We keep telling them that they aren't the only ones with guns, but they don't believe it. And I'll bet we're more competent with them as well.

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fedia.io

Funny how when a liberal politician is shot, they've been "killed", but when a conservative influencer is shot, it's "assassination".

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Lmao it's like "private healthcare" and "government-run healthcare"

You fucks don't get to mix both, either way public/private or say government-run/corporate-run healthcare

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lemmy.world

Isn't the word "assassinate" reserved for elected officials? Why tf is the media using this language for this jabroni who was a civilian?

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No, monarchs and heirs can be assassinated as can appointed officials. It refers to all public figures killed for reasons relating to their being a public figure

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And the liberal that was killed was literally assassinated.

We still have no idea who shot Charlie Kirk, or why.

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aramis87reply
fedia.io

Most recently, that guy who shot four people in Minnesota (two politicians and their spouses), killing one couple and leaving the other pair wounded.

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rigattireply
lemmy.world

Saw the post below right after I said that. Totally forgot about it. News is kind of flooded with shit every day, it's so hard to even remember major events like that.

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And that's EXACTLY what this regime is going for.

Yes, regime. This is not a democratic administration.

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lemmy.world

And this is not a controversial person. This is not polarizing guy, a divisive person

He's like Socrates

Fox News hosts are simply unbearable.

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LadyMeowreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

So they lie about everything then? Like I knew if was ‘entertainment’ and not news because they were lying but this is like… come on.

Edit: ‘he was a beautiful boy’? Why are they so weird? Who talks like this?

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As someone raised by Republican parents that I'm now estranged from.....this is just how they talk. It's fucking weird.

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Lying about everything implies a commitment to oppose truth. They more engage in a reckless disregard for the stuff. They say what they feel is fitting their agenda and give 0 shits any which way if it's true.

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Cethinreply
lemmy.zip

Not polarizing, like Socrates...

Do they even know what they're saying? Socrates was so polarizing he was put to death because his opinions were too controversial at the time. (This isn't to imply the same for Kirk. He's just an asshole, and he won't be remembered by history.)

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Whether they know or not is irrelevant. They know their brain dead audience doesn't know anything about Socrates other than "that old Greek guy" and so they can say whatever they want.

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Charlie didn’t even graduate from college lol. He dropped out according to his Wikipedia.

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Neither do I, but I do have empathy for the people who'll suffer due to Kirk's martyrdom. Meanwhile, Kirk's audience is still there, and they'll be eagerly snatched up by the next demagogue to spout the same message.

The world became worse yesterday. Don't forget that.

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lemmy.world

"The enemy within", "Rats", "Demon-crats"

The Nazis dehumanized the Jews like this

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Jews, gypsys, homosexuals, disabled people and the opposition. Hitler actually went for the left and unions first.

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lemmy.world

Political violence is of course bad... but as soon as you call for it, especially indirectly, you deserve whatever comes to you. Stochastic terrorism is still terrorism, and there's not a lot more American than the fact we don't negotiate with terrorists.

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lemmy.world

They haven't faced any consequences for their calls of violence, so why would they stop?

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They just keep escalating their violent rhetoric and and actions without regard to the law. If you make violence inevitable, the threat of violence as a punishment becomes meaningless.

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I would say the only things more American than the fact we don't negotiate with terrorist is our negotiations with terrorists or our acts of (state sanctioned, so they don't use the term) terrorism.

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lemmy.world

"my daughter loved him. I mean, she’s 13 years old. This is a man who touched an entire generation of Americans"

PHRASING!

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No, it was meant literally. Pedophilia is a basic tenet of the MAGA Party, along with treason, racism, corruption, rape, misogyny, ignorance, and incompetence.

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My brother in christ, your side had already deployed the military on American soil and kidnapped our neighbors, this ain't a start of a war, it's engaging with an active invasion.

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He’s like Socrates. He asks questions, and he does it with a smile. And there’s nothing controversial about saying, ‘socialism is worse than capitalism. Men and women are different. Let’s put America first,’ because that’s all he was about, putting America first.

Guy isn't even cold and they're moving on to more culture war bullshit.

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lemmy.zip

The party that was cheering on civil war for the last year is now trying to play the victims

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lemmy.world

Patiently waiting for the shooter to be a hard right conspiracy nut so I can play this clip back

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As funny as it is, nothing matters to these people. They find out that he rented twilight 12 years ago and determine that he must be one of those homosexuals, who are now at war with them.

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The party of “fuck your feelings” has feelings now? I’m clutching my pearls right now!

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lemmy.world

What?

Has it even been a week since Trump himself declared war on Chicago?

Don't act like any escalation is because one piece of shit got got. Whatever comes next was co.ing anyways.

If what happened today has any effect on Trump's timeline, it likely slows it down.

Every piece of shit just got reminded that this is still America. 40% of people have easy access to a gun, and most Americans can buy one in under an hour.

They're going to calm down, at least in person. Violence is about the only thing that keeps fascist out of daylight, especially when they already control the government

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Xulaireply
mander.xyz

This was done by someone with skills and discipline.

It was probably deliberate, and ordered by the administration, and will be used for Trump to try to take guns away from citizens so he can start sending goons to our homes

They started this earlier in the week with the trans gun ban speculation. And immediately Trump knew and posted when he was shot. And Fox News already has a script ready.

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No_Eponymreply
lemmy.ca

This this this. And Kirk so loved his Fearless Leader that the Leader figured Kirk would be ok knowing he would be more useful to Leader as a dead distraction than a played out influencer of youth when those youth are abandoning the R anyway.

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lemmy.world

I won't say that Trump wouldn't order the cold blooded murder of one of his allies for a small temporary gain, but

skills and discipline.

doesn't sound like anything I've seen out of this administration

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I'm sorry but that just sounds a bit wishful thinking.

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You thought a "culture war" would never turn into a "war war"?

Aren't you the fucking clowns that just declared war on Chicago and Portland like a week ago?

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lemmy.world

I love that these two bit conmen are all like "they're at war with us?!" When they've been trying to incite war with "us" for the past decade or so. It's hilarious how it's now all our fault. Also, Jesse Watters is a cunt and a deplorable human being. Let me know when someone of worth has something to say.

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They’re the same people who think it’s the Palestinians who are the attackers. They’re classic, boring, textbook bullies who don’t like it when the kid they’re torturing gives a free one to the nose and so they run to the teacher crying.

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sopuli.xyz

I'm TERRIFIED! As a Republican i NEVER thought I would be treated like a FIrst Grade child or Democrat politician!

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I sure hope they are even 1/100th as frightened as they are pretending to be, but these guys just seem to be cosplaying at being victims (again)...

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I wonder what he had to say after two Democratic state senators in Minnesota were murdered. And after Paul Pelosi was nearly murdered, for that matter.

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Just saying, with this type of unhinged rhetoric, liberals and minorities should exercise their 2A rights.

It's got the potential to get bad because guys don't need facts before they shoot especially with a influential guy here, and he is, actively encouraging his followers to avenge Kirk and blaming the left with no proof.

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The 2A was quite literally written to be a failsafe against a federal government like we have now. Of course it comes with additional societal drawbacks that we've essentially focused exclusively on for decades, for mostly good reasons. However, you can be assured that they'll think twice about oppressing minority groups if those people are armed and demonstrate a willingness to defend themselves. It's not a magic bullet (lol) but at the end of the day I'd rather go out fighting the fascists than hoping to hide from them while they escalate their violence against my fellow citizens.

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sopuli.xyz

Kevin Roberts, Heritage Foundation fascist, main architect of Project 2025, said,"the country is in the midst of a 'second American Revolution' that will be bloodless 'if the left allows it to be.'"

I wish people would realize that the new civil war started some time ago.

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lemmy.cafe

And by do this, you mean do it TO the right wing, and not the other way, right?

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You couldn’t stop yourselves from being brainwashed into the fascists you’ve become, and from completely destroying the country. You can’t be reasoned with, so war it must be.

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lemmy.world

Still a different guy. This is Steven Crowder and whoever created this picture is an idiot.

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Not sure if you know this, but this template is used for a variety of things, it hardly involves anything around this nazi.

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Yes, the guy in the meme template is Crowder. Kirk was literally standing under a change my mind banner when he uttered his last words.

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lemmy.world

Anyone can see this is a MAGA operation. They are gonna pin it on some Trans person to give them an excuse to take away their right to have a gun. All these MAGAT's are afraid of less than one percent of the population.

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The guilt is on the MAGA asshats anyways. They literally shot themselves and are fighting in their own ranks.

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Oh come on now, right wingers have been com|iting acts of violence against political opponents for years already.

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lemmy.world

Please let the Union stick together just long enough for me to move to a northern state. Please please please please please please

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Their projection will become a well deserved prophecy. These Confederates will regret provoking otherwise peaceful people into war.

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They attack and they attack. When a perceived attack happens they act like now is the time to attack. Just like yesterday and the day before.

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A kill shot, a single shot from 200 yards? Hmm.. A dispensable generic older white man gets taken into custody in the crowd, then released, something seems off here.

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It already has been. Other states invaded the Capitol and are planning to invade Chicago.

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