Spyke
feddit.org

The tap outside is the same water you drink from the tap inside why would you need a filter

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IninewCrowreply
lemmy.ca

Like the commenter above said .... having that water sit stale in about 50 feet of hose for about a week or two or longer and depending on where it was placed, being heated by the sun and cooled every night.

As a rule of thumb, if you ever want to try this, run the hose for about five minutes first.

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Some people are just really overcautious. I'm not sure why but Reddit was basiclaly known for that.

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It depends on the hose and the flow rate. They can vary a lot.

Also, your not just clearing the stagnant water, but also anything that was growing in it.

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tylerreply
programming.dev

Five minutes? It should take about 30 seconds to run numerous gallons through. I think project farm was testing hose nozzles and he was getting 5 gallons in less than a minute.

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lemmy.today

God I want to like him so bad! Like he tests all the stuff that's right up my alley. But I can not stand his voice and jumpy editing.

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Just looked him up. He reminds me too much about the tv-shop salespeople. Kinda yelling at me, speaking really fast and stopping just a bit too long after the end of a sentance.

Idk, might be super cool though.

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I’ve mostly stopped watching, right around the time I stopped buying so much shit I don’t need, but I did see him testing the hose sprayers like that which is why I mentioned him.

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Ah, I saw this and was thrown off because I grew up on a farm where the hose was used for everything. In thinking about it, my better judgement wouldn’t consider drinking from the hose I keep at the apartment for a second, even if I’d been using it all day 🤢. That sits for months at a time gathering who-knows-what.

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proudblondreply
lemmy.world

Apparently it’s the hose that’s the problem, something about it breaking down or whatnot.

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SGGreply
lemmy.world

Well obviously, it's probably depressed from getting called a hoes all the time.

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Me talking to the garden hose:

Hey ho how ya doin, where ya been?
Prolly doin hose stuff cuz there you hose again!
Its a ho wide world, that we livin in.

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crabArmsreply
lemmy.world

In brass fittings and brass spigots, for one.

And lots of weird/toxic shit in hoses that isn't lead (like plasticizers etc), because of the manufacturing process. And because hoses aren't by default regulated for Safe Water standards.

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I have never seen a brass spigot that wasn't threaded on the supply side. And as for the chemicals, as there are no less than twenty other comments talking about it, allow me to repeat this. We didn't drink out of hot hoses! I'm going to say this is one of very few statistical absolutes that you will ever witness in the wild, cause there is literally 0 kids who drank the water immediately after it started running. Once the house is flushed with cool water, the phthalate level drops asymptotically. Does it reach 0? Absolutely not. Is it equivalent to water from any soft plastic container like a camel back? Might be less because, again, the water is running!

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At my childhood home, I wouldn't drink the tap inside without a filter either. And my parents don't trust it even if it has been through a filter. Only reason I'd drink directly from the outside faucet is if I'm really in need of water and there's no other viable option.

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That's not always the case. If a house has a well and later gets water from a utility, they will often keep exterior taps running well water because it's a lot cheaper than abandoning the well. So, technically, you could have water that's safe to drink inside the house but still have unsafe water outside.

Also, if the house has filters or other water treatment that generally isn't used for the exterior (though that's typically more about taste and mineral content, rather than anything hazardous).

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slrpnk.net

The garden hoses are made out of PVC, and It leaches into the water passing though it

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tylerreply
programming.dev

I’m not saying the person you’re replying to isn’t being a bit obtuse, but the water in your house that you drink should be running through copper or in newer homes, PEX which is HDPE, not PVC.

Carry on.

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tylerreply
programming.dev

I was speaking from a western viewpoint. I had no idea that the Middle East used uPVC in their treated water systems. I will point out that uPVC isn’t PVC. It’s a coated pvc that has different properties which seems to be what the researchers are studying.

In any case, very sorry you have to deal with that over there. We use copper in all western countries I’ve heard of (though lead is still in existing systems in places like Chicago).

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slrpnk.net

I'm not middle eastern, but plastic pipes are really common in new builds in north america now too. Garden hoses are largely made out of PVC so the same risks apply

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You were talking about PVC. PVC is not the same as HDPE. It’s not the same as PE, PP, etc.

When you say plastic you include a bunch of stuff that you probably don’t mean to. Plastic refers to any material primarily composed of polymers. The coating inside your cast iron pan when you season it using food oil like avocado oil is a plastic.

North American households don’t use pvc. They use HDPE. They’re not even remotely the same. The risks are completely different, just like the difference between styrofoam and rubber.

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Ehh I have well water and the outside spigots bypass all the filtering/softening systems in my basement cause why burn filter cycles cleaning groundwater to spray back on the ground

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programming.dev

Back in my day we had generational tribalism for breakfast, lunch and dinner, and we liked it.

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My generation would go out and not come home until we'd killed an industry, just to take jobs from the generations that killed our chances of owning a home

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lemmy.world

Back in the day you could book computer time at the local library in my town. I would walk to the library by myself so I could play Oregon trail on an apple iie. Honestly I'm glad that kids have access to the equivalent of the Library of Alexandria in their pocket, but I do miss the days of pre social media and the 24 hour news cycle.

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Your quoted reply was from MystikIncarnate instead of PriorityMotif, and it looks like you're reading hostility into their reply that I don't think was intended. I believe the point was that every generation will have unique struggles, and it's not intended to wish that each one should have to struggle exactly the same way or amount by pointing out some of those challenges.

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lemmy.ca

Yeah. Have all the hate you want for it. When you realize that shit you had to go through as a kid, nobody else will ever have to experience.... You'll be the same.

Fact is, younger generations have different challenges than older generations.

When I was growing up, there were no cellphones and caller ID wasn't really a thing either. That's how old I am. We had to look up numbers in a book and call people's houses blindly, then ask if the person we were looking to speak with was even there. Now, anyone can chat, text, directly call (no party lines), or otherwise connect with almost anyone and everyone at any time for any reason. I'm not saying that's entirely a benefit, because it's not, there's definite downsides to that as well, but the challenge was different.

You'll never experience having to do what I did, just to speak to and plan to meet up with your friends. That part will be easier.

What you don't know now, that you will realize later is that these memes are a way for the older generations to cope with the fact that we are indeed, getting older. It's a form of nostalgia, to remind us of the activities of our youth and the things we had no other option than to do, that younger people may never have to do.

IMO, it's not intended to be tribalism, it's intended to invoke a sense of community and nostalgia in those that experienced it. I'm sorry that you feel like you're being attacked or left out or segregated by tribalism because of our incessant need to have some measure of solace in our rapidly deteriorating bodies by having a moment of nostalgia in the form of a funny, ha ha, meme.

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socsareply
piefed.social

Apparently the biggest challenge of the current generation is "don't be a fascist."

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Seems like a multi generational issue. I mean, the current generation was taught by someone, and will teach someone the same.

Fascism is not the answer. As a question, the answer should be no.

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lemmy.ca

I don't. No. Future generations can, will, and bluntly, should, have it easier. Often it's not, because the challenges change, they don't go away, which is the great tragedy of it all.

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lemmy.ca

First number I remember as a kid was “Belmont 3 6316”. Can’t remember what it meant though.

Edit forgot an “

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lemmy.ca

Sadly, I've had enough experience with phone systems that I do.

Sounds to me like this was a phone number, specifically: 3 6316

But at a time when phone systems were not all interconnected. So you had to be in the "Belmont" area phone system in order to call it.

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Neato. You triggered a memory. Be in the area. I rem now that it was B-2 E-3

Pretty sure that was from the 3 letters on each number key.

So the number was 233-6316

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Yeah. Have all the hate you want for it. When you realize that shit you had to go through as a kid, nobody else will ever have to experience.... You'll be the same.

What kind of moron goes through life thinking "Every generation after mine is going to go through the exact same experiences as me!" - what made you think that? What sort of pompous, self-important shithead of a kid were you?

"The future will be just like today"

Were you dropped on your head or something?

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Omgpwniesreply
lemmy.world

The thing I find amusing about these specific memes - regarding drinking from a garden hose - is that I'm an elder millennial, my sibling is gen X, we grew up on a farm, and neither of us EVER drank from a garden hose, it just tastes fucking disgusting. I've drank from countless sketchy-ass sources, and still will never drink from a garden hose. like, why would you even do that? just unscrew the hose from the spigot at least and use that FFS

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lemmy.ca

neither of us EVER drank from a garden hose, it just tastes fucking disgusting.

100 percent!

Dumb kids of all generations drink from the garden hose.

The smart ones go inside and get it from the kitchen (or disconnect the hose and drink directly from the tap which tastes perfectly fine)

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It wasn't that we never went in to get a drink. The problem was all your friends were outside. If you went in the house you run the risk of getting a chore or task to do. By the time you get back your friends may have moved on somewhere else. With no way to contact them you'd have to search the streets. And if you couldn't find them again, you would be alone for a few hours. Drinking from the hose happened, but not as common as these memes suggest. At least for me.

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Even if you buy a brand new garden hose, it's not clean; they're made from materials that leach chemicals into the water. Once you get them out into the yard, they might be left partially empty with one or both ends open, allowing bacteria and mould to grow, letting insects in, etc.

If you go to a hardware store, you will find there are potable water hoses, they're usually white with a blue stripe. They are made from food-safe materials and meant to transport potable water. Care still needs to be taken to not allow bacteria growth, but not really any more than a re-usable straw.

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I get you. I mostly didn't either, I'm also an "elder" millennial. I grew up in a relatively small city. The city water from the garden hose was fine, for the most part. I don't remember any specific instance where I drank it though.

That's an issue specific to this statement from OP. I was trying to speak more generally, but setting that aside, I think the garden hose thing was a boomer/post boomer thing more than Gen X/millennial. ... Back then, from what I understand, it wasn't uncommon to send the kids outside to play and lock them out there... Probably so the parents can go fuck or at least get a moment of peace and quiet from their fuck trophies.

I don't really know, since I wasn't alive then, and I don't know that I care enough to look into it any more than I already have.

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lemmy.ca

Well, as a garden hose drinker from back in the day, I'm here to tell you that it was run through a filter. It's just that that filter was back at the water treatment plant. Same thing with public water fountains, which were everywhere. We're not that goddamned tough. We weren't slurping pond water through a straw or something like that.

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BigPotatoreply
lemmy.world

I did used to drink stream water without a life straw or other filter...

My filter was the rain clouds.

I was also in the back country on the side of a mountain, so likely just a little animal dung and brain eating amoeba.

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Yeah, drinking from the hose was a lot less problematic than just breathing the air, which was full of tetraethyl lead.

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Jankatarchreply
lemmy.world

The whole generation thing gets so much funnier when you think how other countries exist.

Imagine you experience a military coup at age of 10 and flee to North Iraq with your family where you live for a few years until your Asylum status gets processed and come to US.

Because of how weird whole process is however you still have to stay in a migrant detention center for anywhere between 2 days to several months depending on your age and gender as they check your papers and luggage.
(It looks like this btw.)

Then some highschool teacher calls you overgrown toddler because "your generation is too sissy to drink from a hose."

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lemmy.world

Did this and it was glorious after playing bball in the driveway. Nothing better.

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We played at my buddies house. He was Asian descent, so taking shoes off everytime to get a drink was too much work for us. Just grab the hose and get that drink. Pour some on your head too, cool off a bit.

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This generational bullshit is all made up by marketing assholes. None of it is legit, it's all a distraction from the class war we should all be waging.

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midwest.social

Used to drink out of the hose all the time growing up in the 80s, but it was usually after playing in the sprinkler or otherwise running the hose for quite awhile. But never really thought twice about it either way.

Now as an adult the hose water always has this super appealing nostalgic smell, but I don't run it very often, and the idea of whatever might be lurking in that stagnant water just squicks me out too much to take a swig :(

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lemmy.today

I was born mid eighties and grew up in South Florida. You better believe we learned to let the hose run for a solid minute before even thinking about drinking from it.

Also most filters don't filter out pthalates.

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feddit.org

I am late GenZ, we used to drink all day, every day from pumps on playgrounds and parks that were just unfiltered well water. Until they shut them down one by one. This was not a GenZ idea, this were Boomers and GenX trying to line their pockets with the "savings" these measures had.

Legends say that Boomers and GenX then complain about children not playing outside anymore.

If you blame GenZ or Alpha for how they have grown up in the society and environment you left them with it just reeks of the signature Boomer mentality to fuck everything up for everything but themselves and then blaming everyone else.

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I still laugh about boomers bitching about participation trophies while being the ones handing them out

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lemmy.world

Have a sip of water that's been solar heating in a rubber garden hose for a pavlovian blast from the past!

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Just an extension of Boomer survivor bias arguments.

They also didnt use seat belts blah blah blah....

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feddit.it

As a gen X I always think it's kinda weird how Gen Z (or whatever is the last), care about health considered the shitty world they're supposed to meet.

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I think it's because a lot of Gen Z already have health problems that they can't afford to go to the doctor for. Or if they can afford it, the doctor doesn't know how or doesn't care about treating it. I know a healthcare provider that said they can't believe how many young people come in with old people diseases.

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Because they live in a poisoned world. If you know you're constantly being poisoned, do you accept it, or do you become worried about the level of poison?

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Social media and short videos. That's why there's a reason young girls to young women have a eating disorders and it's going up.

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Gotta bring that avg. life expectancy up to increase retirement age to 85.

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And we have to dodge bullets at school. What's your fucking point, old timer?

  • Gen Z and Gen Alpha
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Anebreply
lemmy.world

My school was 20 minutes from one of the most deadly school shooting in the early 2010s. I went to high school with survivors of the Sandy Hook Elementary school massacre. But gen z is too sensitive is all I hear. We are literally surviving a war that takes place in classrooms and cafeterias, in our developmental years. Thank you for coming to my ted talk

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We had nuclear bomb drills. Go to a cinder block corridor in the middle of the building. Sit on the floor with your pelvis pressed against the wall behind you. Curl up in a ball with your arms covering your head. Keep your eyes closed so you don't go blind from the flash. The world is going to end, the world is going to end, the world is about to end. Okay, now go back to class!

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_stranger_reply
lemmy.world

Point is your too slow to dodge because you spend all your time on your ass watching tiktok.

-same

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leminal.space

Aren't Gen X the parents of Gen Z? That feels more like a failure on gen X for not teaching the ancient art of outside hose drinking.

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Psythikreply
lemmy.world

Gen Z and Gen Alpha because anyone younger can't afford to have kids. Been seeing plenty of people in their late 40s and early-to-mid 50s with young children, but almost nobody under 40 with kids.

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I am sitting at a child infested brewery right now and basically all the parents are under 40.

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Guess it depends where you live, because my youngest is in one of seven preschool classes at the elementary school, and the vast majority of parents are under 40.

I will say it is definitely more normal to see older parents though (as in 40+), and I think that's fine too. Do whatever you want!

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lemmy.world

My kids got to drink from a hose. Nothing was more refreshing then drinking cool water from a hose as a kid. As an adult still not to bad.

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lemmy.world

We didn't have filters in my dad. We didn't even think about the environment or wounde if the water was safe to drink. We just drank it.

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lemmy.ca

As gen x- you open the tap, and you fucking drink. It's not rocket science.

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lemmy.world

I did this as a gen z kid after the new millennium. I did it with probably 40x contaminants than gen x ever had growing up. I apparently have a spoon weight in plastic in my brain by 25, let's see if I can drink enough water that I can fit a Frisbee up there by 30. Lets speed run this shit

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chiliedoggreply
lemmy.world

They'll he defined as a generation thay never got to be in charge.

The youngest X-ers need colonoscopies, and the Boomers still fucking refuse to step back.

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lemmy.world

I was going to make a pithy comment about Obama but nope turns out he's a boomer. Boomer ages are roughly Trump at the old end and Obama at the young end. So yeah y'all lost your chance at having a potus with kamala. The silent generation may manage another though, because somehow they took power and barely ceded any to the boomers.

Us millennials will get a solid decade or two of power and then you'll see. You'll all see! Who's occupying wall street now?

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If I were to take power, I'd just give a speech about all the wonderful things in the world, and how we could all have them.

But most people consistently voted to screw each other over, so now everyone is getting replaced by AI.

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We also used to eat the first white snow of winter and rain water as it fell from the sky. Things were less (or more) polluted back then!

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lemmy.ca

Ok am I just getting old? Seems like memes are just missing words now. OP's was too.

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lemmy.ca

I drank from a water hose many times when I was young. I assume this is a bad thing?

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lemmy.zip

Depends where you live, where I am you might get typhoid by doing that

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lemmy.ca

Every generation is tougher than the next, but ever generation is responsible for the next.

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Lol acting like these older cunts have any responsibilities to themselves or to their children is funny

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