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Peter Thiel is delivering 4 private sold-out lectures at a club in San Francisco—about the Antichrist

PayPal and Palantir cofounder Peter Thiel is embarking on an unusual intellectual journey this fall—delivering a sold-out four-part lecture series on the biblical figure of the Antichrist. The private lectures, which will be held at the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco, represent the latest evolution in Thiel’s increasingly public theological interests that intertwine his Christian faith with his concerns about technology’s potential to enable authoritarian control.

Peter Thiel is delivering 4 private sold-out lectures at a club in San Francisco—about the Antichristhttps://fortune.com/2025/09/02/peter-thiel-antichrist-lectures-commonwealth-club-san-francisco-acts-17-collective-rene-girard/Open linkView original on sh.itjust.works
lemmy.world

I'm no biblical scholar, but isn't this one of the features of the antichrist? Like that they will have false prophets and other dastardly types trying to deceive people and advance the real antichrist's agenda?

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lemmy.world

If any of those myths had any basis in reality, Thiel would definitely qualify as the Antichrist. As it is, he's just a common and garden variety asshole.

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My neighbor is a common garden variety asshole... this guy is a billionaire pile of shit getting obscenely wealthy on the demise of humans. He's not the antichrist, but he's no garden variety asshole.

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No technically Exxon and Shell would be considering theyre bringing an actual apocalypse

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I'm not religious at all, but seeing these mouthbreathing maga fuckwit's, slavish fealty to that pedo-protecting rapist criminal, has me reconsidering.

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lemmy.ca

Jews need to build the third temple first for the antichrist to be summoned. Coincidentally a red heifer was sacrificed earlier this year and The Dome of the Rock is looking mighty destructable.

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I went down an antichrist rabbit hole during my work poop earlier and read that the Bible prophesies there being multiple antichrists throughout history, culminating in an ultimate mega-douche of an antichrist who ends up ending the whole world.

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People are seriously paying money to have the devil himself (Peter Thiel of PayPal, Palantir, and Pal of Epstein) teach them about religion.

I don't like having to do this, but this shit is literally blasphemy. It's all there in the book y'all have been using like an all powerful shield against modernization. Now this evil tech bro is going to tell you all about the anti-christ, and the path to eternal life through technology?! Come the fuck on:

Matthew 15-20: Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them."

San Francisco you have a very important job to do: I feel like people should go with megaphones and, warn everyone attending that they're being deceived by a false prophet and going to hell.

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lemmy.ca

There are 4 horses.

3 have already rode (ridden?) in.

(The image is real)

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Nah, theil is a deeper evil. He's been putting his paypal and facebook billions to spin up the altright pipeline for literal decades.

He quietly funds all sorts of institutes and influencers and silicon valley wonks and founders that gin up most of the nasty shit we interact with now, all to feed his dream of libertarian kingdoms where ownership is governance, where the only right people have is to leave. He is literally a monarchist, and views himself as a king in waiting.

Hes not just a loudmouth idiot like Musk, who splashes money around wildly. Hes more of a Rasputin, the power behind the crown, and hes been very successful at it. Hes someone who coordinates evil, sets it in motion and keeps it building.

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You used to need more social skills to get rich. You had schmooze, negotiate, coordinate, intimidate. Now, any psychopath who can whip a few software developers can make billions.

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lemmy.myserv.one

I don’t think Peter Thiel knows that he is a candidate for the antichrist.

To know that, would require self reflection.

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Well it's been brought up to him directly so it's certainly in his head

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ttrpg.network

his concerns about technology’s potential to enable authoritarian control.

I don't even know what to say at this point

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sh.itjust.works

Palantir co-founder!?

Brother, you ARE the dragon that gave power to the beast

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Llike all men of power, when he talked of prices worth paying, you could be sure of one thing. Someone else was paying.

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He named his technology company after a wizard pondering orb wiretapped by LOTR-satan.

Im sure theres some great jokes here but I don't have anything snarky to say about it, I'm just tired.

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his concerns about technology’s potential to enable authoritarian control.

He's one of the leading voices in making technology to enable authoritarian control...

Critics argue that Thiel’s warnings about the Antichrist ring hollow given his role in building the very surveillance infrastructure that could enable authoritarian control. Thirteen former Palantir employees recently signed a letter urging the company to cease its work with the Trump administration, citing concerns about how the technology might be misused for political targeting

Oh good. At least they didn't just sane wash it like a bunch of other organizations are doing.

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lemmy.ca

These people are both insane and in charge. They have the means and the will to kill us all.

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I don't understand how such stupid people end up so rich and powerful. .

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lemmy.world

The ticket prices are nothing more than a bribe paid to an influential person. I've not seen this guy talk to a camera much, but the little I have seen has not impressed me, I can't imagine anyone caring what he has to say that much. High society socialite garbage.

Or maybe he'll reveal he's the actual living avatar of Asmodeus and enthrall everyone in attendance with dark magic like a movie villain reveal. I don't know, I'd accept it as truth if I saw it in the news at this point.

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discuss.tchncs.de

remember when he struggled to say that he supported the survival of the human race? it was during that Ezra Klein interview.

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lemmy.world

That pause before answering told me everything I need to know about him.

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lemmy.world

I don’t think it was Ezra Kline. It was Ross Douthat. Interesting Times. It’s a bunch of interviews with modern Right Wing people who are active in shaping the current right wing political narrative. Including UFO people.

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It’s not so much a bribe—he doesn’t need money—as a tool to weed out poors, skeptics and investigative reporters.

He wants an audience of rich, gullible fools.

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every time I see one of them pull this weird shit, I have to walk myself through the process again of how christians got to solidarity with the rich. I don't know why I keep forgetting that was always the purpose

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cmbabulreply
lemmy.world

Anyone interested in this topic, at least how it happened in the United States should check out the Behind the Bastards episodes titled “How the Rich Ate Christianity”

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leminal.space

I am, been waiting for an excuse to finally look at that podcast. that seems like as good of an entry point as any

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Feel free to PM me for other good ep recommendations, huge fan of Robert for years and am a glutton for historically depressing stories

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lemmy.world

The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism by Max Weber (1905)

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Fairly certain that informed that episode but I do need to read that in its entirety myself

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Related to Thiel, check out The Coming Storm, too. I think it's that podcast that keeps returning to The Sovereign Individual as something that ties a lot of these nuts together.

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lemmy.today

Thanks for spreading the word on this! Ever since I knew of it I keep trying to spread awareness too!

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My friend you do not understand how happy I am to talk about this topic at length and spread awareness. Appreciate you too!

Another recommendation for anyone reading this and interested is the book Jesus and John Wayne.

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sh.itjust.works

Imagine being a good Satanist all your life, waiting for the Antichrist, praying to Satan, butchering animals, getting up in the middle of the night when Saturn is in retrograde to pick mugwort and shit…You do all that and he gives you fucking Peter Thiel.

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I was promised heavy metal, blood, demons, Dungeons and Dragons, and video games. Instead I get some nerd shit.

Fuck off Satan.

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lemmy.today

Ha ha ha, is that all real Satanist shit? Getting up in the middle of the night when Saturn is in retrograde to pick mugwort? I pick mugwort. Makes decent tea.

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Harvesting plants and performing various tasks at specific times and under specific conditions is a regular practice in various occult systems, I’m not sure of the significance of mugwort, I chose it at random. I don’t think Satanism is “real” occultism, it doesn’t appear in the historical record until the accusations of the midaeval Catholic inquisition, of which most accounts are cartoonish fabrications or refer to pagan, Hebrew, or various forms of foreign cultural mysticism as “Satanic”.

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lemmy.world

Not really. The satanic temple is spicy atheism and the laveyans mostly do sex magic and manifesting, they're basically objectivists with sex magic. It's definitely occult to do ritual gardening, but ironically Satanists are generally low end of the occultism spectrum. I can see thelema (Alistair Crowley's religion) practitioners doing it. Wiccans totally would but they're the bizarre lovechild of protestant Christianity and 2nd wave feminism. A lot of neopagans actually would probably be down.

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pawb.social

Sex magic sounds fucking awesome. Does it include nude gardening?

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It can, but I generally recommend sex magic with people not in the Church of Satan as the Ayn Rand level of treating selfishness as a virtue doesn't make for great sex. Sex magic is very much just a thing among the more libertine occultists and neopagans, whether that's people setting up a gangbang for Beltane or some prayers before sex or a CoS or Thelema style whole ass ritual.

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I usually refrain from uttering what could be construed as death threats. So I will continue my streak and mention that this seems more like an event that should be catered by C. L. Aymore and associates.

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pawb.social

The ego on this jackass to lecture people about himself

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"Welcome to my TED talk about me."

That's like 98% of TED talks

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lemmy.world

I don’t believe in the antichrist but if you summoned the one imagined by Christians I think he’d think Peter Theil was a creepy piece of shit

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yeah. I'm not christian either, but the anticapitalist character arc of the biblical jesus stands in pretty stark contrast to any of these weird nazi fucks

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lemmy.world

This is so fucking weird.

People like this shouldn't be allowed to lead or make decisions that have long lasting effects for millions upon millions of people, or anyone for that matter.

People like him should be locked in psychiatric institutions. They should be studied for their mental disorders, and helped if possible.

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Yea, we could like, have a system where everyone gets to cast a vote for who they want to lead them, and only the people with the most votes gets to make the decisions! Too bad our society is just run by whoever has the most money.

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sopuli.xyz

Thiel’s increasingly public theological interests that intertwine his Christian faith with his concerns about technology’s potential to enable authoritarian control.

Classic traitor republican projecting his authoritarian goals onto others. This is comming from thw fucker that founded Palatir.

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It’s still in development. But most of the people involved are Buddhist

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What facing religious homophobia will do to a gay man with billions of dollars to burn the world

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lemmy.world

Any mention of Thiel should ALWAYS be accompanied by a mention of the book he and so many other weirdoes seem to take as their inspiration, and that book is The Sovereign Individual.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sovereign_Individual

The guy even wrote a preface for a reprint of the book!

In 2020, the book was reprinted with a preface written by PayPal co-founder Peter Thiel.[1]

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lemmy.world

I know this is awfully lazy of me, but tell me more about this book please

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lemmy.org

Some bullshit dystopian predictions about the future that I guess held some weight(?) and how to come out on top yourself, as a "sovereign individual". It's apparently extremely influential among tech bros and co. Adam Curtis also mentioned/explained it and the role it played in shit like brexit (I think), in his last documentary "Shifty".

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Repeating myself, but as I said to u/CharlesDarwin,

Thank you! I always appreciate responses when I ask for more info about something I could obviously just search for myself.

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Thank you! I always appreciate responses when I ask for more info about something I could obviously just search for myself.

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lemmy.world

I read the description, and it doesn't seem that bad. It denounces nationalism and prejudice. Doesn't seem to align with Thiel's current philosophy.

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lemmy.world

Now that's a lot more ominous and wasn't mentioned in the Wikipedia article.

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I suggest getting the audiobook and start listening. I'm only a bit in and I get why it might appeal to aspiring or current billionaires...

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Is Peter Thiel actually that much of an AnCap though? the modern conservative movement doesn't actually care that much about economic liberalism.

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Abrahamic techno facism?

Well Facebook let companies know that users would volunteer their most valued data... And now there's an ai identifying Palestinians based on their facial features so they can be starved better.

Soooooooo eidunno. Billionaires are the new prophets in this wealth obsessed world.

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These people are a death cult actively trying to make revelations happen so they can get whisked up to fantasy perfect land. Can we just sell them all the special Kool-aid and get on with our lives trying to fix this broken ass world?

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lemmy.world

Damn. It would be a shame if an earthquake epic center formed at the base of that building and collapsed on everyone.

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If there was any sort of non shitty god it would destroy theil and his audience with a meteor

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sopuli.xyz

Sort of an autobiographical art piece I guess?

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The thing about these nutjobs is not that they believe in biblical myths and legends

It's that they want to use religious and cult beliefs for their own ends and usher in a violent social change so that they can reshape the future for their own benefit.

They don't mind encouraging people to believe in an AntiChrist or a biblical apocalypse because that's what they want ... people to go crazy, start a war, kill one another and end civilization as we know it. Then the billionaire class believe that they will be the ones to survive the fallout and gain the world for themselves and live like god-kings in the post apocalypse

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Unfortunately when they announce where they are going to be, security will be tightened. When Brian Thompson was shot he probably had no idea anyone was going to know about his whereabouts.

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lemmy.ca

Putting aside the evil of Peter Thiel, which I'm sure everyone else will elaborate on fully, if you've ever heard this guy speak, listening to a whole ass lecture by him would be hellish.

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Idk what the rules about protests are in SF but IMO it's really important when/if you protest something like this and go for fire and brimstone style, still try to make it welcoming and fun/block party vibe if possible. Like just have fun with it. I honestly think it would be a blast to have a big ass public party where you cosplay as hellfire and damnation crowd/look the part but you're just really gathering as a community and airing your grievances about this insane bullshit. Bc at the end of the day, you don't want to let anyone forget how over the top ridiculous it is for him to even do this.

To be preaching about Christianity while using his tech to commit genocide and tear apart families is the height of just too much bullshit piled on top of too much other bullshit.

so not only do you not give him any sort of victimhood narrative to use by protesting his hypocrisy or any unintentional free publicity, you also end up drawing more of a crowd bc more people would rather be having fun as a lively community than listening to some weird hypocrite tell them about how much fun they can have in an eternal virtual AI afterlife they pay for. (Which yeah I'm guessing making it a more fun alternative probably isn't going to be too difficult).

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It must be comforting to live in a simple fantasy world of evil demons you fight against like a character in a video game.

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lemmy.world

Oh, he's banking on society collapsing. That's what his Praxis network-state-city is about.

If you're not familiar with Curtis Yarvin, he's the crazy glue holding it all together. Get deep into that mess, it's what happens after Project 2025 runs out of ideas.

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I'm curious as to how they think they will make it through it.

All their wealth is magical stock numbers on a computer. They better have some gold on hand to pay to protect their shit.

They can ride out the worst of it in their bunkers but if they want to be Immotan Joe it's quite the dice roll.

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sh.itjust.works

I mean yeah that's about it. It seems like we could probably just all read that and know you probably saved us having to listen to him stroke his own ego for several hours.

I guess I kind of understand going to hear it to find out what's being discussed, but the plan is pretty much the wealthy will inherit the earth. The opposite of what the bible actually says.

I would just be very hesitant to give this guy a penny of my money. Unless you plan to secretly record and pirate whatever he says behind closed doors. Then I fully support it.

Actually now that I think about it, if you can catch him even hinting at anything involving organ transplants and immortality behind closed doors I would campaign for you to receive the Nobel Peace Prize and a medal of honor.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/xi-putins-hot-mic-moment-long-science-extend-125246841

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Yess!!! God dammit and it's so crazy that people are never going to actually believe it until it's too late to do anything about it. Like it will probably just get normalized to the point where it's considered a privilege to be sacrificed for the wealthy bc you're allowed a better quality of life compared to your peasant peers in order to keep your organs in tip top shape.

Like people keep saying everything is just a distraction from the Epstein files, but that shit has become a distraction from what all he's trying to normalize in the meantime while Republicans keep dropping kayfabe and pretending they're shocked in order to keep us distracted.

They just dismissed Congress early and went home for the summer. They're supposed to be returning but are about to just shut down the entire government instead. Probably indefinitely. The entire Republican party is going scorched earth. By the time all the files do get released (if ever) it will be beyond the point where it matters.

The goal has always been to overthrow the government and replace it with an oligarchy.

Do people actually understand what organ harvesting, sex trafficking, pedophile oligarchs stand to lose if some files are released confirming what we already knew once we no longer have any accountability, elections, or a justice system, and every city is controlled by the state dictator's military? Nothing. That's why they don't give a fuck.

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lemmy.ca

What is it with billionaires that they have to go insane? It's like all of them end up like those classic campus bond villains

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They don’t go insane.

They just stop pretending they were ever sane enough to share.

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I kinda wonder if it's like how two people can watch a movie and come away with a completely different view of the same character. They saw the asshole villain that was made to be unlikable and thought "man that guy is cool," before they began a series of very poor life choices. Life imitating art.

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lemmy.zip

"his Christian faith"? Is Thiel Christian? Or is he just calling himself that for cultural political reasons, like Peterson and Musk?

(For the record, I am Christian, and I'm constantly horrified at what passes for Christianity in the US.)

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I noticed a lot more religious titles being added to Amazon Video as well, fuck is going on over in SF.

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Said very calmly as a plague of locusts and frogs descends upon us.

"Why do you ask?" Said as I nonchalantly paint my doorframe in blood to keep the angel of death from crossing my threshold.

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sh.itjust.works

Nobody should be getting physically close with anyone attending his talk or trying to interfere with his space. Idk if you've ever had someone try to save your soul from eternal damnation but that's what the megaphone is for.

The goal isn't to do anything other than to call out his hypocrisy and make people realize how lame he is. If people don't care they don't care. If people would rather join other humans having fun and being free to be themselves in God's universe rather than listen to him talk about his universe, they should feel welcome to join.

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sh.itjust.works

Counterpoint it'd be funny if Thiel was hit by a 2001 Honda Civic especially if he flopped around a bit afterwards because his bones were shattered and his organs were liquid.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Gay Peter Thiel is too busy with this shit to read about the night of the long knives.

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Yep. You'd think these ding-a-lings would know even just a few things about history?

Same for Stephen Miller - who is Jewish. Guy is practically stroking himself to the idea of treading the same path that Hitler did....duh, they are coming for YOUR dumbass eventually, genius. This bunch always get around to persecuting the Jews...does he really think funding and building a huge infrastructure to hunt down people and throw them in concentration camps will stop with just the brown people?

If Miller doesn't have a bug-out bag and another country to flee to set up already, he's even stupider than I thought.

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You guys realize they're trying to make trump the "antichrist" on purpose right?

It has no correlation to revelations other than what they attempt to make it look like. It's an easy way to cement the death cult that opposes Trump too.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Welp. I am super confused now. I would argue that Theil is the antichrist, or closest thing to it.

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Nah, the whole symbology around trump, the particular people he put in charge of things, it's all meant to draw parallels to Trump being the anti-christ.

Theil is probably pointing out the obvious symbology they used.

The Nazis(Goebbels) did it to with Hitler too. Fascist ideology thrives in paradoxes, he can be both the best and the worst in everyone's mind.

The whole goal is to placate. Because the antichrist will follow with the arrival of heaven on earth or some bullshit like that. It's a weird, weird thing they believe.

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Given the number of antichrist/rapture movies reviewed on God Awful Movies, I regret to say I think I already know what this guy is gonna talk about. And yes, sold out might actually be real people and not just a bribe-- a ton of people believe in this culty nonsense which is very upsetting.

I wonder sometimes if Thiel himself truly believes it or just sells it religious rubes for easy money, but maybe it's both. Just like cocaine, the advice is to not get high on your own supply.

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“Give me money to make up pseudointellectual quackery about fictional being that will simultaneously quietly agree with your biases while deflecting consideration from real potential antichrists like trump or other billionaires.”

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Nah this looks more like a man rationalizing a world in which a god exists and is on his side. A man with neither mercy nor love demanding his soul saved his selfishness to have been righteous.

He should be praying for forgiveness or godlessness, for those are his only chances

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lemmy.myserv.one

Surprised that the usual boogeyman of socialism, Marxism, communism, etc aren’t the antichrist.

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The antichrist is the communism we made along the way.

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