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asklemmy·Ask LemmybyRmDebArc_5

If You Have Choice then Which part would you choose to be born in?

You can choose which part you want, however where exactly is random based on the birth rate (if a region has a higher birth rate it is more likely that you are born there). What part would you choose and why?

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dmention7reply
midwest.social

I can't tell if everyone else got whooshed, or if we're getting whooshed.

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This thread caused me to look up WTF y'all were talking about, and yeah... It does look like it's a whoosh. But I suspect a lot of people are like me and had no idea what loss.jpg is and have never seen it before.

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No one said anything about having to stay there, and Australia-only at least basically guarantees the option, unlike let's say many African countries.

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CanadaPlusreply
lemmy.sdf.org

They seem to do fine in spite of it, honestly. And no large predators of any kind.

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programming.dev

Living in a country with flying venomous poisonous 48-legged spider-roos sounds better than being trans and living in a transphobic country

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Can confirm. I'm trans and I'm from Florida.

Besides, Florida already has invasive 48-legged spider-roos. They're still not as bad as Florida Man.

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Indigenous Australians have been living there forfuckingever and they've done fine. Please stop parroting colonialist propaganda.

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tasmania probably, anything on the coast but not in the middle because of the outback, the north is mostly rainforests.

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piefed.zip

K is the only area you're guaranteed to be born into a first world country, therefore giving you better passport privilege to move where you want to go if you don't like it.

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Lumisalreply
lemmy.world

Yeah but you might be born as an aboriginal tribe member, which the Australian government isn't exactly the nicest towards.

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Right now you get financially looked after by the government haha. It's your family you'd be wanting to move away from if you're born in a remote community

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Hate to break it to you, but third world countries have bugs too.

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Not_mikeyreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

The old division was nato/capitalist block was first world, soviet/communist block was second world and everything else was third world.

The soviet union may be gone, but a lot of the countries that used to be a part of it are still at the same relative standard of living between the developed west and the underdeveloped global south, so could be considered "second world". The biggest example is, of course, russia; yeah, not the best standard of living but a lot better than what a lot of the world is getting.

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I know that's now generally accepted, but when I was young it was Old World (Yurp, Russia etc) and New World (US, Canada, Australia etc). But the poorer former colonies, the developing nations, didn't fit either, so they were called the Third World.

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Redfugeereply
lemmy.world

K gives you about a 60% chance of being born in the ocean.

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lemmy.zip

I don't know.... it looks like 60% ocean to me....I don't want to be born in the middle of the ocean.

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Yes, just watch out for the snakes and spiders. Luckily the saltwater crocs are only in northern Australia!

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It might be a decent option, I guess. Island countries aren't rich but they have some advantages in other areas. Personally knowing the president sounds cool.

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lemmy.world

Ok so I know this is a loss meme but Imma still say the bottom of J.

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How the heck did you catch that!?

It completely went over my head until I read your comment, I scrolled back up and boom - there it was .:|:;

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Odds are you won't win the bottom part. Figure where the population predicts your likely birth town and roll those dice!

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Ho Ly Shit. Alright. This just feels good. So many years have passed, and we’re still suffering loss. I love it.

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It’s either good or bad. You can choose the rough area, but that area covers good and bad places. Like that American rectangle: are you in a Canadian village in the middle of nowhere, central USA or the Mexico City slums?

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lemmy.world

K is clearly the best, but E is underrated. Some highly developed countries there, just have to hope you won't get Myanmar.

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Cambodia isnt great either. With B, you can always move to a decent part of Mexico.

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CanadaPlusreply
lemmy.sdf.org

Singapore and what else? That's not the happening part of China, even.

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Lazhwardreply
lemmy.world

Singapore isn't in there... though admittedly I thought Hong Kong, Guangzhou, Shenzen and Wuhan were in there which I think might not be.

Still, it definitely has Chongqing, Chengdu, Kunming, Xi'an and Lanzhou, which are arguably still very much part of the 'happening part' of China :)

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Ah shit, you're right, it's south of Malaysia. Honestly my geography in that area is sketchy, despite my personal connections.

I do know generally development started in the eastern China. Some of those cities are huge, but that only means so much. The ones in the south are probably nicer, just by reputation. And, of course, the "autonomous regions" are varying levels of nightmare.

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I'm not sure if OP realises there's islands. If it was supposed to be empty the southern Indian ocean or interior Antarctica would have been better picks.

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lemmy.world

Clearly G, so that I die instantly while not beeing able to cognitivly know what's happening, so I don't see this dumb timeline of humanity.

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feddit.org

G. Be among the first to be eaten by Dread Lord Cthulhu when He awakens.

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Which is a good deal, honestly. Air passengers are heavily selected for at least moderate wealth.

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Sure, probably. That's where we can wait until The Stars Are Right.

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Owl
mander.xyz

I guess K is the least risky option

Remeber kids, bad humans are far more dangerous than scawwwy Australian animals

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Let's face it, it's gonna be a rich retired boomer fucking a hot island native and the condom rips.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

You're all cowards I'm rolling the dice on C and I'll be chilling in Tokyo with my waifu body pillow while yall get eaten by snakes in K.

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I was born in C, not recommended.

(People's Republic of China)

Restrictive firewall, no porn, hard to get western media, so you'd be stuck with ww2 sino-japanese war tv drama or some cringe romance stuff.

With a population of 1.4 Billion (well, minus the area covered by "E"), you'd most likely end up there.

Did I even mention video games? Yea... that's gonna be tough to get, definitely no online multiplayers (even if you somehow got a VPN, the ping is gonna kill you).

And your VPN could fail at any time even if you do get it.

Also, OP didn't specify you get to choose your gender, so if you're born as a woman in Japan... good luck. (Don't ask why camera shutter sounds are mandatory on Japanese Phones)

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Yeah, well.... Enjoy Manilla! Here's to hoping i end up in a remote part of Tasmania.

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feddit.org

Gotta go with B. The US might be shit and you might be out of luck in Mexico too. But you'll still be able to earn enough to emigrate somewhere else.

E would be close second for me. China, Laos, Vietnam and Thailand aren't bad. But you might get unlucky and end up in Burma.

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scoop_viireply
lemmy.world

B contains mostly lower population areas in the US and Canada, if you go with B you're almost definitely gonna be in Mexico.

A is interesting, you have a good chance of being in the US/Canada or western Europe, but it also contains a fair portion of heavily populated areas in western Africa that might not be ideal.

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I figure about a 30% chance of Canada or US, 30% chance of Africa, 20% chance of Europe, or 20% chance of Latin America.

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Lyra_Lycanreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

At least the US is big enough that you can still fuck off to live outside of governance if you wanted. Free life is a pipe dream

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lemmy.zip

People around here seem so scared of south america. It's mostly a nice place to live.

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CanadaPlusreply
lemmy.sdf.org

The levels of inequality are like nothing in the developed world, and you're probably not going to be one of the rich people.

Maybe you can be safe, but you're gong to have limited opportunity. Same story as part E really.

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Id say K first because developped countries and low poverty areas.

G second because i lived the island life for a few years and it's pretty chill, beyond the underdevelopment and obesity.

H, B and E third, poor countries but not that bad, beyond overpopulated poor areas, Argentina is great and Mexico is good, US is neutral, Canada is win.

D and J fourth, you can live a decent life in those aera but with a very large bit of luck, majority of people live in poverty, oppression, or starvation. South Africa has some racism, but it's not that bad as a place to live.

A>F>I>C

is this loss?

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That's a really interesting question! I admire the creativity :)

I think it would have to be K though, as that includes Australia and New Zealand, so no chance of being born in a developing country, unlike the others. I assume the Polynesian islands are not too great to live in, but idk.

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lemmy.world

G would be safe. I would be even more morbidly obese than I already am, but I would be safe. (If I would spawn on an island)

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Oh wow… chatGPT was actually useful! Cyclones, heavy rainstorms, the sun, and harsh waves are all things that want to kill you there

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Jankatarchreply
lemmy.world

North Iraq is pretty decent ngl. Lived there for a few years. Would still chose C and gamble for a Nordic country tho.

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Reminder that your experience as a foreigner is not the same as those born there, particularly if you are a white male with citizenship in a western country, you usually can get away with a lot of trouble that you wouldn't otherwise have if you were a local. (Because they'd want to avoid causing an international incident)

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I am Kurdish and was a citizen there.

But you are completely correct, I did often hear tourists get away with a lot.

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Like, overwhelmingly likely. The top two countries by population are there and some of the others are not far behind.

The Nordics are just a few million.

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aussie.zone

I moved from J to K and can highly recommend K. K is excellent.

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CXORAreply
aussie.zone

I can't speak to now, but 20 years ago, at least, NZ and Canada were some of the easier western countries to emigrate to.

I find Urzila hilarious.

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B.
And assuming I remember what it was like before I will then better make my ass move back to Germany.

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Looking at this chart I realise once again that I maybe didn't win the lottery but got most of the numbers right.

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lemmy.zip

B or K are the best bets. But Mexico or central America could get ugly real quick.

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lemmy.world

And the US not? Dit you see the news this year? I chose A, Europe (as it's still in A)

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lemmy.zip

That's cute.....no....the us is nowhere near "golly I sure would t want to be born there." Anyone who would even think that who is an American probably spends way too much time online and has never left the US

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Taldanreply
lemmy.world

You should travel more if you think the US is some universal paradise. It has good areas and bad areas like any country

I've been to communities in West Virginia that have no running water. Or large swaths of Mississippi that have little to jo infrastructure, and even fewer economic opportunities

The US is a big place with incredible disparity

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lemmy.zip

Ok but here's the thing.....in the US you are free to buy a Greyhound bus ticket and go to any major metropolis if you choose and seek gainful employment

If you stay away from drugs, don't have kids out of wedlock, and don't make stupid choices ....you WILL not fail in America. Even if you do fail you can live quite comfortably with a mediocre job.

Meanwhile.....in Honduras......

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Pre-2025, I'd partially agree with you.

Right now? Probably not. The country is undergoing autocratization, I would not consider the current regime a democracy, its a hybrid regime at best.

Maybe in 4 years, the institution will uphold and the rule of law will recover, but if you asked me today to choose a country to reincarnate to, the USA would not be anywhere near #1.

Of couse its still better than North Korea or Taliban-Controlled Afghanistan, but I wouldn't willing choose the US if I had the rest of the world to choose from. (EU looks like a decent option right now)

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lemmy.world

I've seen a lot of the world. Like, a lot. The US is definitely on my "I don't want to be born there" list. And im happy I wasn't. But I would understand most Americans think differently, seeing how self centered they are. But it's a failed state. Insane poverty, wealth inequality, corruption, incarceration numbers, broken judiciary system, crime rates, etc. It's run by a criminal pedophile and everyone knew that when they voted for him. After he ruined a previous term already. Like, Idiocracy at its best. People who actually believe the US is a good country are either ignorant, super rich or blind AF. But yes, there are countries that are worse.

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lemmy.zip

Why don't you go for a walk in almost any developing country and calm down.

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I am calm down. See, when I go for a walk, I know I'm safe. Proper walking infrastructure, safe roads so no risk being hit by cars (yes we have cars, not mega trucks). No one has a gun, so that's nice. I can safely walk the streets any time of the day, everywhere I go. If something were to happen to me, there's proper healthcare covered by insurance and a free ambulance ride with a max 10min waiting time, everywhere in the country. We have affordable medicine. There's a working democracy where I live and even though it could be better, a working social system. They are working to decrease the amount of cars in my city and increase greenery so the air is clean. And next to that, our drinking water is the highest rated drinking water out there, even better than bottled water. So are our roads, highest rated in the world. There's public transportation everywhere (still could be cheaper imo) so I sold my car because it became obsolete. I have an e-bike because cycling infrastructure is also everywhere. But don't worry, we still complain about stuff. Like, houses are expensive. While in the US they give children backpacks with bullet proof vests, we force companies to change all ports to USB C. We fight for phones to get replaceable batteries back, in the US they struggle to deal with a company who mass murders tens of thousands each year by making them all addicted to opiods, which still continues to this day.

I've seen developing countries in a better state than the US. Don't forget, the most in the US are born into poverty and have little to no chance to get out of it. The only chance they have is getting killed, end up in jail, die by overdose or make a minimum wage while living in their car until they get sick.

And remember, I've seen many countries on nearly all continents. Many are worse, but also many are better. Much better.

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C. It contains China's eastern seaboard which is the dominant prosperity region of this century. The stable long term planning and responsible investment into people is unrivalled and only beginning to pay back return on that investment.

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Yeah but since it's population based it's a coin flip of whether you end up in India, Bangladesh, Pakistan instead, which are kind of the opposite of what you mentioned.

If you really want to live in China, pick E. The population is probably dominated by large Chinese cities anyway (chongqing, Wuhan, Hong Kong and shenzhen) so you'd probably end up there.

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I just realized I have never left part D in my life... Gotta travel more

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Well considering my political proclivities E is a pretty solid choice. Just praying I don't get myanmar or Cambodia

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Ice
lemmy.world

Probably:

K>B>H>E>G. They all have decently developed countries whilst ensuring that you don't end up born in a developing country.

For the big slices, F should be best (guaranteed to avoid the worst outcomes).

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syreusreply
lemmy.world

Born in Antartica would be a neat second playthrough. Polar bears are hella scary but I would definitely boop the nose before I go down.

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I don't think there are polar bears there, and you might be born on a base. I think a few Chileans and Argentinians were born in Antarctica.

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lemmy.world

K is probably most likely to be a good life. B is my second choice.

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Bigger fan than most of the other options that was presented.

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lemmy.sdf.org

K is objectively the right answer. Probably followed by A with a a bit of a dice roll on West Africa. Who wants to be born in a poor country?

I really like the concept here, but it needs some tweaking.

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hansoloreply
lemmy.today

West Africa? There's no letter for that, unless I'm missing it. There's J, which is a slice of Southern Africa that has insane income disparity, so you could be born in a village or a fancy private hospital to wealthy parents.

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CanadaPlusreply
lemmy.sdf.org

If you look carefully, A circles around B and continues through the Atlantic; there's no line.

Same for C, F and I with their respective rectangles.

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Yeah, I didn't realize the letters in the ocean were for the whole quadrant

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Yeah, I get that. I didn't realize the A meant the whole quadrant.

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piefed.social

Is there any land it G? Like is it just to small to see or is it a joke option?

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Vupwarereply
lemmy.zip

Sorry I didn’t pay enough attention. Central America isn’t even a possibility. I’ll just abstain from voting, as I don’t have much of an interest in going anywhere else atp.

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The way I'm reading it, A would be the whole quadrant and B would just be that specific stripe. I don't know if A includes B, or excludes it though. I also can't tell if the stripes are just that specific box, or the entirety of the countries that fall partway in the box; is B just that rectangle or all of the U.S., Canada, and Mexico?

"A" would be your pick, but the odds aren't great.

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where exactly is random based on the birth rate (if a region has a higher birth rate it is more likely that you are born there)

Even if this wasn't included I was already thinking of this. A, C and I all seem like they have rather good odds at putting you somewhere in Africa.

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Nah that's like a bunch of Philippines in there too. The islands near the top of Australia

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Based on the rules, picking I would place you somewhere in Africa.

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I'd pick E if I'd land in Thailand. H would be a close second.

K is out of the question with my arachnophobia.

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cute_nokerreply
feddit.dk

You spawn in DRC territory and become a child soldier at the age of 7

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Or : Xinjiang and you are a muslim minority. Born in a factory making sex toys.. Probably gonna die there too...

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fedia.io

Can't tell if D or E has a higher percentage of land, but your odds of being born in the water are high for G.

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Per the description, where in the region you are born is based on birth rates. That drastically lowers the odds of being born in the water basically everywhere.

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fullsquarereply
awful.systems

otoh E contains active warzone and D two of them or more, depending on how you count

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Being born on the middle of the desert or northern forest , or eastern Black Sea, Caspian Sea, or Red Sea probably wouldn't be great either.

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however where exactly is random based on the birth rate (if a region has a higher birth rate it is more likely that you are born there).

No risk of being born in water.

D and E has higher percentage of combat zones, so maybe not the best option.

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Feels like B, because it would be the easiest to migrate back to Europe. Technically that is also true for K but you are crazy if you think I am going to the land of biological horrors even for a few days, let alone few years.

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well i mean NZ is in K and has pretty tame wildlife, but also a lot of the nasty aussie wildlife is up north… and also our wildlife is only really dangerous if you don’t respect it… ain’t nobody treating wildlife with the respect it’s due dying from it

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I feel like your chances of being born in a decent place in B are pretty good. Most of that's Canada or Mexico. You might be born in western Texas, but you can always leave.

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I choose I. Why? I-C-E-D. Free? Yessiree. Cold and totally bold. Aloned and totally stoned.

I is the place to be. I is the place for me. High is the state of me. I choose I.

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I would like to be in whichever bracket has the highest standard of living relative to the lowest working hours per capita.

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