Spyke
lemmy.world

It's a good representation of this new regime. Tear down nature and replace it with a parking lot.

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It also looks like something you'd find at a cheap, trashy resort where children poop in the pool.

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lemmy.world

Stone isn't nature? Looks like natural stone to me. It's ugly AF but both are artifical and have little to do with nature.

Edit: it's just a joke guys, don't take it too seriously lol

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foggyreply
lemmy.world

Nothing is synthetic it's all made of stuff we have here on earth!

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VonRepostireply
feddit.dk

I see your point and raise my promethium-146 sprinkled in my tiles.

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Kirp123reply
lemmy.world

I guess a concrete lot is better in your opinion.

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3abasreply
lemmy.world

It doesn't require constant watering and fertilizer that leeches into ground water just so you can have perfectly green 2" tall grass fully exposed to the sun that doesn't want to live there and call it "nature".

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If you're going to get nitpicky we could focus on how much heat the concrete retains vs plant life which can absorb and use the energy. All the people with concrete or rock yards around here are super hot, my dog and I have to run by in the summer. Paving vast surfaces is a poor alternative to landscaping. The soil underneath will dry and the animals, insects, microflora, etc will all be forced out and that part of the earth will just be dead.

But really it just looks dumb and Jackie planted some of those trees.

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Riskablereply
programming.dev

If you mow your lawn with an electric lawn mower that's charged via solar panels, your lawn is a carbon sink (assuming you water it via some renewable means).

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lemmy.world

Yeah, for this space that is frequently used to host people or filled with chairs for a press conference, it is better and makes more sense.

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The problem is, have you ever noticed how much hotter you are in a parking lot on a warm day than when you are in a park? Well, now those events are happening on a parking lot and not a park. Furniture can be designed to work on turf, or temporary fixtures could be put in place to mitigate the drawbacks of furniture on lawns, but the absorbed and reflected heat will be hard to get rid of. Hopefully this area is small enough to not have a big impact on the temperature there.

I honestly don't think it looks bad, but I suspect it's more for Trump to put his stamp on it than anything else, and to erase the efforts of others before him. And I suspect it will be more uncomfortable than it was before.

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stheticreply
lemmy.ca

I agree. I hate Trump as much as anyone else, but if a President I liked did this, it wouldn't be the end of the world.

In principle, I don't mind if a space mainly used for events, with chairs placed there often, should be hardscape. It's not as if lawn can't be put back there in the future. Lawn isn't a heritage tree or rose shrub.

To be fair though, the photo makes it look pretty huge as an expanse of paved area.

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Yeah, it's not that he did it per se, it's the idea that he probably did it because he's a classless fat troll.

Same with some of his policies; grand scheme of things if they were presented by most other people I'd have little objection, but because they're motivated by greed, hate or narcissism I don't want to give the twat an inch.

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A good representation of the old regimen, as unnatural as concrete, but at least trying to appear natural

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I came to the comments looking for this song. I did not expect to learn that the version by Counting Crows was a cover however. Neat!

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lemmy.world

He’s like a rat gnawing on the wires of democracy and this is the visualization of his excrement. Fucking disgusting.

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Dasusreply
lemmy.world

If only someone could explain why this is happening.

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lemmy.world

Yeah but the communists didn't manage it. Far right authoritarians like Putin, Bin Laden, and the heritage foundation did

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Dasusreply
lemmy.world

What ideology they claim to believe in is inconsequential.

Do you think of China as being actually communist?

I don't.

Russians managed it. No matter what -ism was or is in fashion.

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lemmy.world

Ok but it was a multinational front by a shared ideology. Sure Russia just wanted us weakened regardless of professed ideology, but there's a reason putin was more able than kruschev. Bin Laden played a huge role in this though. And the long standing American fascist movement wasn't being egged on by the 1950s Soviets.

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Nonetheless, Trump is Putler's lapdog and thus Russia has done what Khrushchev said the Soviet Union would do.

And to pretend like those are two completely distinct political entities would be bad-faith at best.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates_and_Russian_officials

Allegedly Trump has been cultivated and recruited since 1977.

Back then it was the Soviet Union. Back then Putin was working for KGB as an intelligence officer and did so for 16 years, before resigning when Soviet Union fell, to have a political career.

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CanadaPlusreply
lemmy.sdf.org

I really don't think the funny shoe man from the 60's is to blame for this.

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Dasusreply
lemmy.world

He didn't say "I", he said "we". And the "we" in that sentence was Soviet Russia. Soviet Union is clearly no more, but modern day Russia has inherited a lot of policies and values from them.

At which point do you think they just gave up on thinking the US as their enemy?

Because there was a small conflict that went on for literally decades after Khrushchev's death.

So idk why you're trying to pretend like "funny shoe man" was waging a personal war against the US when he was the leader of a world power?

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CanadaPlusreply
lemmy.sdf.org

Because you posted him with no context. It wasn't clear you meant Russia.

but modern day Russia has inherited a lot of policies and values from them.

I'd disagree with that. They inherited autocracy, but it's not even a vaguely similar model of it. In a lot of ways current Russia is a backlash to the USSR, although they shoehorn communist stuff together with Tsarist stuff and everything else from even earlier to pretend they have some kind of ideology.

They still see the West as enemies or at least competition, though, that's true.

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Well, they kept a few of the design bureaus, I guess.

When their whole economic model was obviously failing, I think the West thought they'd give up on Marx, when in reality they just decided to become the bad guys from Marx.

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You're being downvoted because I think they think you're a Tankie - but as a Russian - you're 100% correct about the ideology bit.

This image is from 2023. Everyone who has a brain and some grasp on historical truth should immediately find this deeply absurd, so let me explain.

Imperial Russia and RSFSR (Russian Country in USSR) are two opposed entities who would sooner let Germans make gains on their territory than take men away from fighting each other, and if you think about it - it makes perfect sense, and is also quite literally what happened.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_Revolution https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Civil_War

So why are the three flags together?

Well, imo - Putler's Fascist Russia is nationalist first and foremost, which is inherently very right-wing, but of course a lot of their glory days were at least under the pretense of leftism, and plenty of Russian nationalists wish for Soviet revival, when in reality they'd be first in the gulags for being rightoids, or if for nothing else - optics.

So putler has a choice, just memoryhole Russia at its most successful as RSFSR both in evil (imperialism, authoritarianism) and good ways (science, technology, welfare) and embrace Romanov lineage Revanchism, or attempt to work in the optics of the soviet union into the national imperial image.

Unfortunately for everyone, Surkov, Dugin and the lot chose post-truth. The Russian "Federation" has no ideology, other than power and maintaining the economic and political capital of its oligarchs and their ability to steal from the Russian people and anyone else unfortunate enough to get in the way.

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Dasusreply
lemmy.world

no context. It wasn't clear you meant Russia.

Uh, it's literally the First Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union from the time that he was in power.

"No context"

Fkin lol. You can't be serious?

You'll probably disagree with Putler being wanted by the ICC for warcrimes as well? Or at least make some excuse for how he's not responsible or how the ICC or the UN are somehow the bad guys or smth?

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CanadaPlusreply
lemmy.sdf.org

Yeah, and I was wondering if this was a "commie democrats" thing. Russia isn't my first association, or even my second. He was even from Ukraine.

You’ll probably disagree with Putler being wanted by the ICC for warcrimes as well? Or at least make some excuse for how he’s not responsible or how the ICC or the UN are somehow the bad guys or smth?

No, Putin is shit and I hope he ends up in the Hague where he belongs.

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No, Putin is shit and I hope he ends up in the Hague where he belongs.

Thank you for confirming that. I know it's a bitch when people assume shit, but you know, you can never know. So, thanks. Even if you are Russian. Or rather especially if you are. Like I doubt it, from context, but if you were.

Khrushchev may have been originally Ukrainian, but that doesn't really mean that much.

Who the fuck wouldn't associate Khrushchev with Russia or the Cold War in general? Who would be the "we" in that if not Soviet Russia? Stop writing in Bad Faith. And I capitalise that on purpose.

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Aganimreply
lemmy.world

My rats were pretty intelligent and they didn't shit where they ate or slept. And they weren't in the Epstein files. So this comparison doesn't fly at all.

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Khanzaratereply
lemmy.world

Weren't in the Epstein files as far as you know.

But yeah I had rats I'd vote for them over trump for anything.

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I like the idea that ok that list amongst Clinton and Trump and Prince Andrew is "that guy's rats"

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lemmy.world

When this asshole finally dies or goes to jail (please), we might as well burn the place down and start over. You ain't ever getting the stench out the walls...

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braxreply
sh.itjust.works

Give Canada a call - we did it once before for you guys... 😏

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Reference to the war of 1812, it was still ~50 years before Canada slipped the British leash but there's some weird nationalist revisionist history surrounding it.

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lemmy.world

Outside the various shitty adjustments he's making now, we cannot forget something perhaps bigger. Because of him, an enemy state flag (the flag of the Confederacy) was flown in the White House.

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lemmy.ca

Of everything, this is low on the list of things to be annoyed about. While there were probably better ways, this is an area used for gatherings and DC being DC, it is pretty marshy and unusable as a lawn. There have been plans for a long time to do something like this.

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More importantly, this will be easily undone later, unlike much of the other damage he has done or plans to do. Compared to those things, I can't get too worked up over this.

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Also the actual roses were in the bushes on the side.

I'm pretty sure they did actually get rid of a lot of the flowers anyway and got rid of things they shouldn't have, but the layout of it isn't so drastically changed and the lawn can easily be replaced.

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There's your problem. All that grass makes for a terrible child sacrifice during their pedo parties. The blood soaks right in and you never get a chance to collect it for the Sangria mix.

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lemmy.today

He's slowly making Obama's joke come true.

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SPRUNTreply
lemmy.world

IIRC, Biff Tannen was based on Orange Hitler.

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Nothing is more beautiful than polished white marble and gold. Lots and lots of goolllld!

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sh.itjust.works

Between this and the ballroom it would be a minor blessing if Canada burnt the place down again.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

This and the ballroom are Trump trying to leave a permanent mark on the White House behind. If nothing else, he'll die of natural causes within the next decade, and he knows his name will be cursed from then on. If you have to call it "The Donald J Trump Ballroom", then he still has something.

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lemmy.world

I will make sure to always call it the "Fuck Donald J Trump Ballroom" in his memory

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GraniteMreply
lemmy.world

Rename the ballroom to whatever, but name the restrooms the "Donald J. Trump Shit and Piss Closets"

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But the sign on the door should read "Classified Document Storage"

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Fuck that just tear it down. But in the most "fuck this were not going to reuse any of this" kinda way. The new president whips his dick out after and pisses on the rubble.

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He hardly needs to try when he'll be an irrevocable unmovable stain on the US ledgers of record and national reputation forever.

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lemmy.world

what was once lush, green, and beautiful, is now a grey, ugly, boring looking stain.

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Earth in about 80 years when runaway heating deletes us all and makes Venus 2: Anthropogenic Boogaloo

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lemmy.world

Of all the things he's changed about the country, I bet something like this is what he cares about the most. I can just imagine the tantrum trump will throw when the next president* digs this up and returns it to grass, or better yet, an actual garden.

* if we get another president.

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Oh they are all petty twits.

Regan pitched a fit and removed the solar panels Carter left on the roof when he left office. This is just more proof the regressive party has no taste.

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Phoenixzreply
lemmy.ca

If there ever will be a next US president I expect him to first tear down that new gold wing, then to dig up this shit.

Anything else can wait

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Not sure what a motorcycle has to do with this, but I'm referring to the new gold plated wing that trump is adding to the Wilhite house

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feddit.it

lol the insignia in the corner, very American

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Visually it's striking how similar it looks to how Nazi Germany also put eagle motif crests everywhere.

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Honestly, I'm amazed he managed to restrain himself from making it mostly gold. Can't imagine that this ballroom will have such restraint.

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I don't suppose the organic garden is still around along with the whitehouse mead made from honey of beehives on the grounds.

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lemmy.sdf.org

It must be strange to only have the grift / destroy setting and no other desire. Tyrant.

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Dude’s heels were probably sinking into the dirt during press conferences.

I wonder what kind of entry fee he’s going to concoct now that it has been new and ruined improved.

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fedia.io

Someone should create a fuckgrass community so all the virtue signalling can be contained.

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It's SO plain looking, I'm surprised too! He usually goes for "tackiest possible approach" so this feels like an oversight, even though its objectively a better outcome.

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programming.dev

I'm torn - while I'm not a fan of the new look, I'm also viciously anti-lawn-grass so I can't complain too much.

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Pennomireply
lemmy.world

Surely solid pavement is still a downgrade from lawn grass, no?

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Truely mild compared to all the scientific executions that happened

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lemmy.ca

Hows drainage?

Also they kept the much cheaper pavers around it, which looks stupid as hell.

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lemmy.ca

The garden wasn't replaced. the grass lawn was. big difference

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sh.itjust.works

So happy they got rid of all that ugly greenery and replaced it with a nice lively gray

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Turf grass only looks green; it's usually more ecologically damaging than pavement.

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Yeah a grass lawn with no flowering lawn plants is dull and borderline sterile anyway. At least it's not being replaced with AstroTurf

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I would have returned it to nature with native plants. Krasnov created a smaller Red Square and now he wants a fucking Ballroom for $200 million! WTF!

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lemmy.world

Should make a small nature center there and lead by example. But nah....

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Pennomireply
lemmy.world

Because ants can live on grass but not pavement? Lawn is bad for biodiversity but concrete is much worse.

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lemmy.world
  1. Ants can and do live in paved spaces. There is a layer of sand under the slabs that is easy for them to excavate tunnels from, with the entrance between two slabs.

  2. It's the white house. It gets sprayed for insects anyway.

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Ceruleumreply
lemmy.wtf

They should spray a lot more, plenty of bugs there.

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Because it's a garden?

That being said pre Wilson, it actually had garden beds where the lawn was.

Also ask yourself in the context of a garden, what is better vegetation than grass to walk on?

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sh.itjust.works

Am I missing something here? It looks like the roses are still there and he just paved over the big useless lawn.

Anyone else see this? Those rose bushes are still clearly there on the right side of the image. Ifball were talking about is the replacement of some shit grass anyways, who gives a fuck?

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lemmy.world

It looks tacky and shitty. Like something a child rapist with no taste would like.

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sh.itjust.works

So does a fucking lawn. Actually, imo, lawns are worse. It's a perfect representation of the toxicity of the "American dream". It's an unnatural landscape that's inhospitable to life, sort of like the concrete, costs resources to maintain, unlike the concrete, but it gets some weird psychological pass because it's green. It's shit either way.

Talking about "he ripped out the rose garden" is just more sensationalism horseshit when the roses are right there, just fuckin dandy. He tore out a lawn that was equally as shit.

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Ow wee... Your opinion isn't going to be well received. He's clearly making the white house tacky and gross like he's tacky and gross. It's going to take so long to get his skid marks and farts out of the white house. So much industrial cleaner. Just like the US is going to need some industrial cleaner to get rid of the fascists.

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If we're talking ChemLawn, I'll agree with you. But mulch mowing the yard is IMO categorically better than paving (or ChemLawning)

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Lawns are bad, yes, replacing lawn with hard impermeable surface, worse.

It’s as if someone turned their whole front yard in to a parking lot.

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I mean i would've preferred clover instead but the concrete is precisely as useful to bugs as that grass was.

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sh.itjust.works

A lawn? Absolutely not. It's a resource sink for no other reason that vanity. If they weren't going to put in something useful, like clover or any actual productive plant life, then I'd rather see it capped off and no longer watered. Golf courses too for that matter. Pave them over entirely and build dense urban housing instead on a national scale.

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Yeah that grass square always seemed strange to me even as a kid, since they hosted outdoor parties for visiting foreign dignitaries and grass isn't the best surface for fancy shoes, especially women's heels. My brothers and I would sometimes wonder if it opened up to reveal a secret missile base or Aurora landing pad.

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Elainereply
lemmy.world

Agreed, the whole clutching of pearls over the rose garden is ridiculous. It’s widely accepted that lawns are an unnecessary flex. This area is used for seating so nothing but some grass that was probably in need of constant repair because of all the traffic. This is a big nothing sandwich.

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