Born and raised! Tulsa is the exception to Oklahoma. Still the most beautiful city I've ever lived in, and nicer ever time I go back. But OP has a solid point about the weather. OK gets the worst of all the things.
More people from Ohio have become astronauts than any other state/territory in the world
Because when youre an Astronaut you can get as far away from Ohio as humanely possible. No one else has that kind of motivation to complete the rigorous training.
Even before astronauts were a thing. Ohio inspired two men to invent airplanes, because they had already traveled to the East Coast by then, and couldn't run across the ocean to get further from Ohio. They had to adapt and learn to fly
You're seeing the glass as half empty, I see it as half full...
At one point in the orbit you are only 250 miles away from Cleveland.
But at the other end of the orbit that's 250 miles and the entire planet earth between you and Cleveland. You get a chance to be the farthest human from Ohio, every rotation.
You don't understand. It's not too escape Ohio. It's because the void calls. It reminds one of home. The dark, unfeeling, lethal, soul crushing expanse of space reminds one of the home void. We want to bridge between the two. Bring together the V̵̮̈́ ̴̜͑ȍ̷̜ ̴͜͝i̶̲̿ ̴͉̊d̵̺͆
There is no universal, objective answer. It depends who you are, your financial situation, your political views, etc.
That said, the states that suck the most for the most people are conservative places with lots of rural poverty. Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, Oklahoma, ...
A coworker of mine is from Louisiana. We’re in Washington state, and he told me that all the people here bitching about wind turbines and environmental regulations don’t know how good they have it. He’s from a town on the gulf which is basically one giant oil refinery. The stink and chemical pollution is unbelievable. He showed me the “Welcome to Whatever-ville” sign in his hometown, and it’s literally attached to a gantry that carries several chemical pipes over the road.
I'll defend Alabama. I travel through several times a year on the back highways and there's only one truly shit town we pass. York is a wasteland. Here's the main drag, and most of those units are empty.
All the other rural towns seem pretty nice. Businesses aren't shuttered, roads are nice everywhere, people take pride. Contrast that with Mississippi. You could teleport me to a gas station and I could tell if it's in MS or AL according to how much trash is blowing around.
Black folks are nice to us, don't look at us with the suspicion I saw 20 years back. Times change.
Know where I experienced the most shocking racism? Manhattan and Chicago. Segregated down to the city block. And NYC wasn't merely black/white/Hispanic, it was like, Haitians this block, Puerto Ricans that block, and don't cross the fucking street if that ain't your hood. Find me a white man in South Chicago, dare ya. Solid blue cities. Imagine that.
Know where I've seen the most racial integration? Here in the South. Couldn't get my head around why there were so many old white folks running around with little black kids. Ex-wife: "I dunno Shalafi. Maybe they're grandparents?" No, I had never seen so many interracial couples. Hell, of my wife's friends, there's only one Filipino husband, rest are white guys. No one even blinks. (Except in Mississippi. Shit's gone worse since Trump's second term.)
Our street is an exact racial representation of the area. 70% white, 30% black, squeeze an extra 1% in there for my Asian wife. Most places in this area are like that. There's no black or white or Hispanic side of town. Asians are fairly concentrated in two areas though. Whatever.
tl;dr: Not going to hear how racist we all are when the whole damned country is racist. Not going to ignore all the progress we've made this century.
Nobody saying Florida? Swamps, gators, slowly sinking into the ocean, home to way too many grumpy old people and crazy drug addicts (see Florida man) and Trumps shitty golf club. Also some of the absolute biggest peices of shit for politicians- DeSantis, Rick Scott, Gaetz ect
Florida, Louisiana, Mississippi are all shit holes honestly same goes for Houston TX as well. I'm not saying my state of Oklahoma is any better. I lived in California for 4 years and kill to go back however it's just too expensive
Florida. Heat, humidity, stench of water from the sprinkler systems, lousy coffee from the crappy drinking water, most jobs literally don't allow you to work OT. Many only hire 32 hour people. Terrible drivers, especially all the Qtip bitches that should've stopped driving 20 years ago. Redneck Nation. Massive POS politics.
Florida used to be black on Erin's trans safety map. It was literally its own "DO NOT GO HERE" category. Unfortunately the only thing that has changed is that it's no longer alone.
It's so funny (not in a good way) to see this change - I grew up going to drag shows, there is still so much gay culture here, and it's such a a diverse place, no matter what axis you spin it on. We know trans people (one of my kids among them, but older people too) and there isn't much discrimination "on the ground" here, my trans kid got a job the same place my other kids did, and only HR keeps the paperwork with physical sex as gender, in practice they are treated as they choose. And that's at a nominally religious place. In school too, the teachers and kids did not care, just took it in stride. The outright hostility in Tallahassee is insane, but it doesn't translate to hostility in the city here. Or not yet at least.
Make Florida Freaky Again. That will be my platform if ever I run for governor.
The stinky water is because they let you use reclaimed water for watering a lawn, it's hella efficient and good for the plants. Gardens don't need drinking water. It does smell bad but is a good thing.
Been saying it for years. We should've left it to the spainards, the spainards shoulda left it to the natives and the natives shoulda left it to the god damn trees.
I live in Florida and travel Mississippi several times a year. Night and day. And I'm in the panhandle where we're poor, still head and shoulders above MS.
Was telling my wife that Pensacola airport is two or three times the size of Jackson's, at their capitol. FFS, they can't even manage clean water, in their capitol.
Alabama is actually pretty and pretty nice. You could teleport me to about any road in either state and I could call it for MS or AL. You can tell when you cross into MS because your tires start rumbling. Was wondering on the last trip how much those people pay for tires. Bet it's big business!
Last weekend's trip was fucking weird. Maybe I simply hadn't noticed before, but the people were no longer friendly. Probably because I have long hair and my wife is Asian. At least black folks are still nice enough! Which flipped since I moved to the South 20 years ago. They looked at white people with deep suspicion.
Really enjoyed learning about NY queer culture by watching Paris is Burning so thought I'd check out Mississippi Burning to see how marginalised communities express themselves in the South... oh
Mississippi doesn't have enough character to be the worst. It seems to be bad in every way, but it doesn't have the flair for actively destructive stupidity that make Florida and Texas what they are.
We drive through several times a year, starting in Florida to Alabama. The poverty and ignorance is fucking heart breaking. Always glad to get back into the Alabama part of the trip.
IMO - Texas, while places like Mississippi, Arkansas, and Oklahoma always rank below, I believe Texas is actively trying to kill itself. Those other states are poorer and more rural. Texas has the resources and money to be one of the most prosperous states. Yet, they keep voting for Greg Abbott (aka piss baby), Ken Paxton, and Ted Cruz. People there are so brainwashed that they believe anyone who is not an uber republican will come and make all the frog gay, let kids poop in liter-boxes, and give all their money to drug addicts. It's just sad. I finally just gave up on trying to make any difference there and left for the sake of my kids.
A perfect example is my mother-in-law who HATES Greg Abbott. She blames him for leaving the state for dead during snowmageddon. So she just refuses to vote in Governor elections.
I'm not from the states so not really qualified to comment but I would have thought low taxes and large population (including diverse cities like Housten and true blue areas like Austin) would work in its favour.
Other places in the South seem to have all the downsides you mention but none of the positives.
Yes, Texas is actually purple, but it is gerrymander so bad there is no way to win. A perfect example is the district I used to live in, Texas 26. Is was basically Denton County with a little tail going into the Tarrant County to keep it red. Then Democrats got close in a couple of elections. So they redrew the map to cut out the city of Denton, which is a city with a huge liberal arts college. Then they extended it north and west into more republican areas.
Meanwhile the city of Denton was added to the 13th district, which is 40,000 square miles and extends all the way to the panhandle. People in the city would have to drive 325 miles just to visit their representatives office.
"The East Coast" generally means the north east. "The South" is all the states in the south eastern corner of the country, including the coastal states down there. (Where the borderline is between them depends entirely on who you ask)
Edit: To further clarify, everyone in the actual region calls the coastal states the east coast. That includes New England and the Southern states that touch the Atlantic Ocean. I say this as someone who has lived in every coastal state except for Maine and Florida. So if you try to use "the east coast" to refer to New England, at least in the region you're talking about, people are going to think you mean the states on the coast...
I think all states probably have ok cities in them somewhere, and that it depends on your preferences but I would never live in Alaska.
And all states have downsides too.
Mississippi and Oklahoma have the worst schools. Florida and Texas have crazy politicians. Wyoming doesn't want you there. Colorado has angry ranchers and pretentious yuppies. California has Bakersfield.
Alaska. Remote, expensive, so cold your car's tires freeze with the flat spot they had while you were parked so you thump thump thump down the graveled roads until they stretch out, and to paraphrase @poccalyps, 'ice storms, earthquakes,... and some of the dumbest, most entitled Jesus-humping maga fucks in the country.'
You're really stretching there with your last few examples.
Wyoming your biggest issue will just be a lack of any real culture or metropolitan amenities, plus the winters. But it is beautiful and the people are as friendly as anywhere else.
Colorado's problem tends to be hcol even outside the cities, and traffic to get to the mountains. But our government is shockingly functional, and our problems derive from tons of people moving here because it is a great place to live.
Cali's problem is definitely high prices and traffic. And kinda shocked you pegged CO as the place to find pretentious yuppies.
But honestly, I could be happy living in any of these places. Mississipi... would take some work.
Lived in Watertown when I was a kid. My first Halloween there we had to trick or treat in 1 foot of snow. Other than the cold it wasn't so bad, insanely beautiful landscapes however I did notice a lot of mild racism to Indians.
Any of them that make up the southern border. They are almost unilaterally shitholes that would cut off their arm if it meant the "right" people suffer.
My smart watch likes to remind me frequently that I had a "stressful" day and to try to do better tomorrow. I'm like "bitch this is my baseline. Lower your expectations."
Most people's politics (left-oriented as well - your "scientific rigor" is actually rather sparse and inadequately supported [just look at how often we actually fund follow-up studies]) are virtue signaling. People tend to work backward from what the in-group already assumes. No big deal - it's just collective problem solving staged in a cannibalistic system. So, to answer your question, seemingly equal measure, though the weights change with social context.
Oklafuckinghoma. Heat, tornadoes, ice storms, earthquakes, hail and some of the dumbest, most entitled Jesus-humping maga fucks in the country.
And gonna be in the 100s next week here in Tulsa.
Born and raised! Tulsa is the exception to Oklahoma. Still the most beautiful city I've ever lived in, and nicer ever time I go back. But OP has a solid point about the weather. OK gets the worst of all the things.
Ohio, it's a statistical fact.
More people from Ohio have become astronauts than any other state/territory in the world
Because when youre an Astronaut you can get as far away from Ohio as humanely possible. No one else has that kind of motivation to complete the rigorous training.
Even before astronauts were a thing. Ohio inspired two men to invent airplanes, because they had already traveled to the East Coast by then, and couldn't run across the ocean to get further from Ohio. They had to adapt and learn to fly
The Ohio class nuclear missile submarine is named for its feared ability to turn any place in the world into Ohio
https://youtu.be/sVn4sBxLokA?t=66
In case the timestamp link doesn’t work, just jump to 1:06
Warning, this is absolutely brain rot, but also hilarious
Most astronauts only go about 250 miles up, the distance from Cleveland to Cincinnati. That said, Neil Armstrong got a lot further away from Ohio.
You're seeing the glass as half empty, I see it as half full...
At one point in the orbit you are only 250 miles away from Cleveland.
But at the other end of the orbit that's 250 miles and the entire planet earth between you and Cleveland. You get a chance to be the farthest human from Ohio, every rotation.
Surely Jim Lovell would have been the Ohian to get the furthest from Ohio? (Apollo 13 altitude record)
👀
Being a Browns fan will do that to you.
“I went back to Ohio, My city was gone”
You went back to Ohio?!
You don't understand. It's not too escape Ohio. It's because the void calls. It reminds one of home. The dark, unfeeling, lethal, soul crushing expanse of space reminds one of the home void. We want to bridge between the two. Bring together the V̵̮̈́ ̴̜͑ȍ̷̜ ̴͜͝i̶̲̿ ̴͉̊d̵̺͆
There is no universal, objective answer. It depends who you are, your financial situation, your political views, etc.
That said, the states that suck the most for the most people are conservative places with lots of rural poverty. Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, Oklahoma, ...
Arkansas, don't forget Arkansas. And Louisiana.
Oh, how could I miss Louisiana? It's the place with the highest incarceration rate in the world.
https://www.prisonpolicy.org/graphs/2021.html
A coworker of mine is from Louisiana. We’re in Washington state, and he told me that all the people here bitching about wind turbines and environmental regulations don’t know how good they have it. He’s from a town on the gulf which is basically one giant oil refinery. The stink and chemical pollution is unbelievable. He showed me the “Welcome to Whatever-ville” sign in his hometown, and it’s literally attached to a gantry that carries several chemical pipes over the road.
I'll defend Alabama. I travel through several times a year on the back highways and there's only one truly shit town we pass. York is a wasteland. Here's the main drag, and most of those units are empty.
All the other rural towns seem pretty nice. Businesses aren't shuttered, roads are nice everywhere, people take pride. Contrast that with Mississippi. You could teleport me to a gas station and I could tell if it's in MS or AL according to how much trash is blowing around.
Ah so you're white
Black folks are nice to us, don't look at us with the suspicion I saw 20 years back. Times change.
Know where I experienced the most shocking racism? Manhattan and Chicago. Segregated down to the city block. And NYC wasn't merely black/white/Hispanic, it was like, Haitians this block, Puerto Ricans that block, and don't cross the fucking street if that ain't your hood. Find me a white man in South Chicago, dare ya. Solid blue cities. Imagine that.
Know where I've seen the most racial integration? Here in the South. Couldn't get my head around why there were so many old white folks running around with little black kids. Ex-wife: "I dunno Shalafi. Maybe they're grandparents?" No, I had never seen so many interracial couples. Hell, of my wife's friends, there's only one Filipino husband, rest are white guys. No one even blinks. (Except in Mississippi. Shit's gone worse since Trump's second term.)
Our street is an exact racial representation of the area. 70% white, 30% black, squeeze an extra 1% in there for my Asian wife. Most places in this area are like that. There's no black or white or Hispanic side of town. Asians are fairly concentrated in two areas though. Whatever.
tl;dr: Not going to hear how racist we all are when the whole damned country is racist. Not going to ignore all the progress we've made this century.
Misery. Wait, hang on, sorry, I spelled that wrong. Missouri.
BTW, in the book, she hacked off a foot with an axe and cauterized it with a blowtorch. 🤢
Hey now, Kansas isn't so bad if you are white.
Oh wait.
Mississippi and Alabama tend to compete for the worse state top spot
Mississippi is the anus of the USA.
At least those have the ocean and Huntsville. Like poccalyps said, Oklahoma by far.
Nobody saying Florida? Swamps, gators, slowly sinking into the ocean, home to way too many grumpy old people and crazy drug addicts (see Florida man) and Trumps shitty golf club. Also some of the absolute biggest peices of shit for politicians- DeSantis, Rick Scott, Gaetz ect
Don't forget Alligator Auschwitz! I hear they're selling merch.
Florida, Louisiana, Mississippi are all shit holes honestly same goes for Houston TX as well. I'm not saying my state of Oklahoma is any better. I lived in California for 4 years and kill to go back however it's just too expensive
I hear ya. PacNW is my home (not childhood) and my heart tears up just thinking of what it would take to get back. 🥹😭
I grew up in Florida. The neighbors are worse. You just dont hear about them as much.
Florida. Heat, humidity, stench of water from the sprinkler systems, lousy coffee from the crappy drinking water, most jobs literally don't allow you to work OT. Many only hire 32 hour people. Terrible drivers, especially all the Qtip bitches that should've stopped driving 20 years ago. Redneck Nation. Massive POS politics.
Fuck Florida.
Florida used to be black on Erin's trans safety map. It was literally its own "DO NOT GO HERE" category. Unfortunately the only thing that has changed is that it's no longer alone.
It's so funny (not in a good way) to see this change - I grew up going to drag shows, there is still so much gay culture here, and it's such a a diverse place, no matter what axis you spin it on. We know trans people (one of my kids among them, but older people too) and there isn't much discrimination "on the ground" here, my trans kid got a job the same place my other kids did, and only HR keeps the paperwork with physical sex as gender, in practice they are treated as they choose. And that's at a nominally religious place. In school too, the teachers and kids did not care, just took it in stride. The outright hostility in Tallahassee is insane, but it doesn't translate to hostility in the city here. Or not yet at least.
Make Florida Freaky Again. That will be my platform if ever I run for governor.
The stinky water is because they let you use reclaimed water for watering a lawn, it's hella efficient and good for the plants. Gardens don't need drinking water. It does smell bad but is a good thing.
Not even gonna mention that the coastal areas've been dredging sand at night to keep it from sliding back into the ocean for decades... 🤮
Let. It. Die. Already.
What's not to love? The new Alligator Auschwitz is a glorious new addition, brought to all by our glorious Great Pumpkin (Putkin?)
/$
Been saying it for years. We should've left it to the spainards, the spainards shoulda left it to the natives and the natives shoulda left it to the god damn trees.
The current state?
I mean honestly if the words worst and state are in the question the answer is almost always Mississippi.
Idk I think Florida is going to give them a run for their money soon. Insurance can deny claims and coverage more easily now and FEMA's been crippled.
I live in Florida and travel Mississippi several times a year. Night and day. And I'm in the panhandle where we're poor, still head and shoulders above MS.
Was telling my wife that Pensacola airport is two or three times the size of Jackson's, at their capitol. FFS, they can't even manage clean water, in their capitol.
Alabama is actually pretty and pretty nice. You could teleport me to about any road in either state and I could call it for MS or AL. You can tell when you cross into MS because your tires start rumbling. Was wondering on the last trip how much those people pay for tires. Bet it's big business!
Last weekend's trip was fucking weird. Maybe I simply hadn't noticed before, but the people were no longer friendly. Probably because I have long hair and my wife is Asian. At least black folks are still nice enough! Which flipped since I moved to the South 20 years ago. They looked at white people with deep suspicion.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thank_God_for_Mississippi
Mississippi is the worst state I've been to. I can't imagine living there.
Really enjoyed learning about NY queer culture by watching Paris is Burning so thought I'd check out Mississippi Burning to see how marginalised communities express themselves in the South... oh
That was set in the 60s. Mississippi isn't nearly that bad. It's bad, but it ain't Mississippi Burning bad.
Oh yeah, sorry that was a bad joke. Those films couldn't be more different!
Hey! You got me looking at Paris is Burning!
Phew thought we'd have to settle our dispute by vogue-ing!
“Paris Is Burning” is such a fantastic film.
It's not up for debate. It's Mississippi.
Mississippi doesn't have enough character to be the worst. It seems to be bad in every way, but it doesn't have the flair for actively destructive stupidity that make Florida and Texas what they are.
We drive through several times a year, starting in Florida to Alabama. The poverty and ignorance is fucking heart breaking. Always glad to get back into the Alabama part of the trip.
IMO - Texas, while places like Mississippi, Arkansas, and Oklahoma always rank below, I believe Texas is actively trying to kill itself. Those other states are poorer and more rural. Texas has the resources and money to be one of the most prosperous states. Yet, they keep voting for Greg Abbott (aka piss baby), Ken Paxton, and Ted Cruz. People there are so brainwashed that they believe anyone who is not an uber republican will come and make all the frog gay, let kids poop in liter-boxes, and give all their money to drug addicts. It's just sad. I finally just gave up on trying to make any difference there and left for the sake of my kids.
A perfect example is my mother-in-law who HATES Greg Abbott. She blames him for leaving the state for dead during snowmageddon. So she just refuses to vote in Governor elections.
My friend who claims they're a communist has been to Texas twice and loves it. Beats me why.
The poverty makes them feel like they're in a communist society
I'm not from the states so not really qualified to comment but I would have thought low taxes and large population (including diverse cities like Housten and true blue areas like Austin) would work in its favour.
Other places in the South seem to have all the downsides you mention but none of the positives.
Yes, Texas is actually purple, but it is gerrymander so bad there is no way to win. A perfect example is the district I used to live in, Texas 26. Is was basically Denton County with a little tail going into the Tarrant County to keep it red. Then Democrats got close in a couple of elections. So they redrew the map to cut out the city of Denton, which is a city with a huge liberal arts college. Then they extended it north and west into more republican areas.
Meanwhile the city of Denton was added to the 13th district, which is 40,000 square miles and extends all the way to the panhandle. People in the city would have to drive 325 miles just to visit their representatives office.
Texas 26 Before 2021
After 2021
Texas is five different states held together with scotch tape. If it ever split up, you’d have three blue states and two red.
Anytime related to the "South". West Coast is chill. East Coast is chill.
Too far down the east coast gets gross. What's your cutoff?
Personally, I'd say North Carolina.
"The East Coast" generally means the north east. "The South" is all the states in the south eastern corner of the country, including the coastal states down there. (Where the borderline is between them depends entirely on who you ask)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States
I disagree. The east coast is quite plainly the Atlantic coast, including part of the South. If you mean Northeast, just say that.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Coast_of_the_United_States
Well huh... I guess you mgiht be a bit wrong.
Edit: To further clarify, everyone in the actual region calls the coastal states the east coast. That includes New England and the Southern states that touch the Atlantic Ocean. I say this as someone who has lived in every coastal state except for Maine and Florida. So if you try to use "the east coast" to refer to New England, at least in the region you're talking about, people are going to think you mean the states on the coast...
The east coast is definitely not "chill"
the state of denial that half the county is in that believes orange shitler will help them.
I used to work at a call center for a nation wide company.
The answer is absolutely Kentucky. There is really no comparison.
You can't just fire off an entirely subjective opinion and not back it up with anecdotes.
It's been 12hrs. I'm thinking they intend to. 😅 FWIW, I agree with you.
At this point I'm certain the guy is from Kentucky, and just proved his point like a boss.
Only logical explanation, really
details or gtfo
By the numbers, probably Mississippi. Lowest life expectancy, highest infant mortality rate, second highest poverty rate...being ranked 39th in education actually seems to be a bright spot for them.
I think all states probably have ok cities in them somewhere, and that it depends on your preferences but I would never live in Alaska.
And all states have downsides too. Mississippi and Oklahoma have the worst schools. Florida and Texas have crazy politicians. Wyoming doesn't want you there. Colorado has angry ranchers and pretentious yuppies. California has Bakersfield.
Alaska. Remote, expensive, so cold your car's tires freeze with the flat spot they had while you were parked so you thump thump thump down the graveled roads until they stretch out, and to paraphrase @poccalyps, 'ice storms, earthquakes,... and some of the dumbest, most entitled Jesus-humping maga fucks in the country.'
HAHAHA!!!
What's wrong with Alaska?
Polar bears, for one. Their politicians for two.
I'll never forgive them for allowing Sarah Palin out of containment.
ah, the good old days.
as a young Canadian at the time, that was one of the introductory events to the world of politics, for me
to think that back then that was the craziest shit coming out of the US, and compare that to today
Urban areas are typically more "blue" as they're populated by people who can read, more or less.
You're really stretching there with your last few examples.
Wyoming your biggest issue will just be a lack of any real culture or metropolitan amenities, plus the winters. But it is beautiful and the people are as friendly as anywhere else.
Colorado's problem tends to be hcol even outside the cities, and traffic to get to the mountains. But our government is shockingly functional, and our problems derive from tons of people moving here because it is a great place to live.
Cali's problem is definitely high prices and traffic. And kinda shocked you pegged CO as the place to find pretentious yuppies.
But honestly, I could be happy living in any of these places. Mississipi... would take some work.
Bakersfield? I think you forgot Redding.
South Dakota
Lived in Watertown when I was a kid. My first Halloween there we had to trick or treat in 1 foot of snow. Other than the cold it wasn't so bad, insanely beautiful landscapes however I did notice a lot of mild racism to Indians.
Any of them that make up the southern border. They are almost unilaterally shitholes that would cut off their arm if it meant the "right" people suffer.
Leave New Mexico off that list. While not perfect, they sure have been knocking it out of the park recently. It's stunningly beautiful too
Arizona is also beautiful. Unfortunately, it also has Pheonix.
Before or after the Breaking Bad era? (/s)
Depression
Well I can say from experience that after 2 decades of it you just feel "normal" because depressed has become your normal!
My smart watch likes to remind me frequently that I had a "stressful" day and to try to do better tomorrow. I'm like "bitch this is my baseline. Lower your expectations."
Judgy li'l shit, ain't it.
Wyoming. Corrupt, cold, ugly if you're not rich, and full of morons who do things like thank coal workers for their service.
cOaL kEePs tHe LiGhTs oN
Who deserves the thank you more- coal workers or police officers?
Most people's politics (left-oriented as well - your "scientific rigor" is actually rather sparse and inadequately supported [just look at how often we actually fund follow-up studies]) are virtue signaling. People tend to work backward from what the in-group already assumes. No big deal - it's just collective problem solving staged in a cannibalistic system. So, to answer your question, seemingly equal measure, though the weights change with social context.
All of them!
Probably Mississippi, Oklahoma, or West Virginia
And with all the MAGA turds that moved to Florida and it’s terrible government it’s gotta be close to those top 3
No Alabama???
poverty
right now, to the rest of the world it would seem that it’s the contiguous united ones…
AK is rolled into that, NGL. Leave Hawaii alone, though. 🤘🏼
Absolutely Mississippi. My wife has family in Meridian, MS and I shudder thinking about being stuck there my whole life.
New Mexico
Insane crime, just as expensive as California or Colorado.
Seriously
don't come here, i mean go there.I've actually gone to new mexico and like it. Granted, mostly going to the national parks
Shhhh
For sure man, I felt the same way.
The federal land parts without any locals, you mean?
Albuquerque was ok but I don't think I stayed long enough to properly judge it.
I'm surprised nobody has said Idaho, given that it's been known for its white supremacists lately.
Ohio was pretty bad, so much so I moved back to Texas...
Bowling for Soup: Ohio (Come Back to Texas) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wBWNgg8CClc
Oh no, I am sorry for you. Which city?
Suburb of Cleveland
Texas, with runner ups California and Florida
California? You need to tell me your dealer, because I'd like to have an ounce of what you're smoking. At least we give our citizens healthcare.
how do you afford to live there?
Working?
min wage?
Just, not homes. Baby steps?