Twitch's largest political streamer, Asmongold, shovels racist and xenophobic messaging to his audience of 52K+ live viewers
Not only are the countries he is saying have "fine" refugees don't even speak English as an official language, Africa as a continent has the largest amount of countries that speak English:
Most other African countries speak French, Spanish or another European language as an official language. So what is the issue here? Many Africans have immigrated to Western countries and have integrated fine. It's insane that Twitch is allowing this kind of rhetoric to be displayed in full velocity on this platform.
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Since when is this dude a political streamer. Wasn't he popular for WoW and he was a PoS then. Why is anybody listening to what he has to say now?
It's the natural progression for a 20-something piece-of-shit gamer edgelord. When he hits middle age he pivots into being a miserable racist piece-of-shit bore.
Seems that there’s an endless amount of money for right wing social and political commentators.
This is it.
All you need is to parrot what more popular accounts say and have a phone and you can make money as a political streamer.
which russia is happy to pay, the political grifters went silent immediately when people found out they were being paid/consultancy through a llc backed by russia.
He is 35 years old. Just imagine that. 35 years old and still not capable to use the brain properly.
He was never smart. And he still lives with his parents. And he doesn’t even go to a dentist. He is representing a lot of central US people.
I wish people would just come to terms with the fact that gaming, for whatever reason, seems to breed these ballsack-looking conservative gamers who are willing to do anything and everything to avoid having to keep down a real job. I've met a dozen of them in my life and they're all the same. They're all rich kids who couldn't survive a single performance review.
Middle age?!
Yeah that was my assumption because he looks middle-aged to me. Found out after I wrote that he's like 35? How the fuck can you look that haggard when you're a 30-something content creator raking in the money from your parents' basement!
Man, I'd look elderly to you I guess. How old are you?
I'm middle aged.
he discovered the grift and decided to get in on it. Even his father called him out on it after he called Palestinians "inferior". that's all this is. He's an act, a con artist, a grifter.
a guy that claimed streaming on his main asmongold account and getting paid with subs was "too stressful and causing anxiety" thus started streaming on an alt account that eventually became bigger than his main and makes him more money too.
And the people that watch him are just morons of the lowest caliber.
I think he must attract a certain amount of viewers from the "train wreck" effect. He literally was using the stench from the sun hitting a decomposing rat corpse in his room as an "alarm clock" for a while. He has had roaches crawl across him live and not reacted.
So I can kind of understand getting some sort of twisted satisfaction that you're doing better, or having the same sort of fascination people have with train wrecks and disasters.
What I don't get is why anyone cares about his takes on anything. The man willingly lives in decomposing filth. He's clearly not a source of knowledge or good opinions on fucking anything.
So here's my take on this, because I've seen similar personalities make similar pivots.
This guy is a disgusting, bumbling idiot, but he speaks with certainty and condescension. The curious onlooker will see him, get trapped by the mindset you describe ("oh man, this guy's a trainwreck, let's see how much worse off he is than me"), find it funny and continue watching.
After establishing some sort of "trust" with the audience ("I'm a big dumb idiot who makes you laugh") he pulls out the manipulative speech. "You'd have to be stupid to-"; "this guy's a retard!"; "It doesn't make any sense", etc. Once you get to this part of the steam, you've already established that the dude's an idiot, but you also think he's funny. You're faced with the decision to either laugh along with his "jokes", or "accept" that this buffoon is "more educated" on a topic than you are. The fragile, uninformed audience these people are after are much more likely to go the latter route.
This dude has been a well known shit head for years. It's not surprising to see him continue to be a well known shit head. Twitch, like most platforms, doesn't actually care what people say, as long as it drives engagement.
him and hasan seems to have some of kind beef going, yea the drama is helping thier engagement.
I still remember tuning in to see what his stream is about and he is explaining why having a confederate flag is important to texans (not sure if it was texans, been a while)
Please keep in mind this is a guy who, quite seriously, this is not made up...
... used to use a dead rat in his pigsty of a room as an alarm clock.
The sun would come in through the window, bake the rat corpse to the point of a striking pungent smell, and this is what would wake him up.
Again, I am not making this up, just a year or twoish back he earnestly explained this to all his viewers.
The man also very, very rarely brushes his teeth, and has frequent issues with his gums bleeding.
This is your basement dweller 4chan addict, who just so happened to win the streamer popularity contest.
On basically any topic other than World of Warcraft, he has no fucking clue what he is talking about.
Honestly, and I know I'm gonna get downvoted for this again, but he makes a surprising amount of sense in a lot of topics he touches and it often seems like his responses are well thought through and quite eloquent.
And that's exactly the problem. It makes it really easy for some people to fall for his batshit crazy bullshit takes and it makes him a lot more dangerous than if he was just some crazy Maga nut.
He also addresses a lot of the struggles his predominantly young male audience experiences. Something, pretty much everyone else fails to do. And his arguments only really fall apart once you invest quite some time to look deeper into the matter.
Disregarding Asmongold as just a crazy basement dweller with dead rats in his house might be easy but it's severely underestimating the danger that this man poses if we don't find ways to offer a better save space for his target audience. Although, Dr. K. is doing god's work here!
Hey, engaging in good faith here:
Yeah, I get that a socially stunted basement dweller 'elder gamer' is indeed appealing to and relatable with a younger generation of basically the same.
And I totally get that many, many people are just highly dismissive of and rude toward such socially awkward people, which reinforces the entire dynamic... when what they should be is more appealing to, sympathetic and empathetic to the younger disaffected crowd, that are basically scared and confused and angry kids, many of whom could be easily set toward a better path in life and development of their world view if ... just anyone would actually make them feel heard.
I really, really do get that, as I myself come from a right wing family, and genuienly didn't even realize how fucked up a good deal of my young beliefs were, how self-destructive some of my own behaviors were, untill I actually encountered and got to spend a lot of time with people less shitty than my family, irl... granted this was 20-30 years ago, I think I am roughly the same age as Asmon, so this was... back when computers and video games were actually niche, weirdo nerd things, not the widespread bog standard for children's socialization.
I have no argument with any of that.
I do however request at least one actual example of Asmon having a take on literally anything that is... lets say, more well thought out and reasoned than a high school sophomore's 5 page book report.
... And in saying that, I am now remembering that American literacy rates and scores have plummeted since I got out of high school, I think within +/- 2 ish years of myself graduating from college, that was the actual high point for average American literacy levels...
Maybe my standard of 'well reasoned and thoughtful' just objectively is higher than the modern standard.
Hrm.
How do you then reset the alarm so it doesn’t smell? Do you refrigerate it or freeze it?
... you pull the blinds down... and go noseblind after enough 'exposure'.
He probably reused the same one a fair few times. After that stops working, new rat. God knows he has plenty of volunteers.
To be fair he said he brushes his teeth twice a day every day (ever since he had to replace his whole teeth because the original ones rotted out 🤣)
Wait, ALL OF THEM?!??!!
I think most of his teeth were rotten out yeah. Not sure if ALL of them but most. Doesn't really surprise me because he drinks the most disgusting beverage ever like a normal person drinks water (Dr pepper)
He lives in his own shit. Literally. He used a dead rat as an alarm. This man is disgusting in so many meanings of the word.
Oh god, that dude. I’d just managed to block the memory of this out.
How does one use a dead rat as an alarm?
Edit: another comment answers this below. Jesus. Fuck.
Quite literally, his house is a giant trash can
Same dude who got temp-banned from Twitch for actively calling for the literal genocide of Palestinians. Asmon is a piece of shit.
Sometimes I think these posts are made by insincere racist dickheads like him to actually recruit more people to his side with fake out-rage over real problems
So he is aligned with the current administration on the issues like at least half of the US? That's not big news, you realize that?
Asmongold says stupid things and then only responds to the lowest hanging fruit.
He'll say we can't take refugees because XYZ, then people will respectfully counter his arguments, but he effortlessly ignores them.
Then someone calls him a loser or makes a silly argument and that's when he's "You see? This is the problem."
Just a circus act for idiots.
Famous racist spouts racist misinformation. Is this really worthy of a post?
Considering that he is only famous in very narrow circles. And even those like myself who knew of him from his wow days. Had no fucking clue he was somehow twitch's top political streamer? I'd say those are all important things to get out there. I mean like what the fuck. What the actual fuck. There is no hope for Humanity.
he started fellating for trump last year and beefing another "political influencer" hasan.
Hassan has had some particularly shit takes himself. Though honestly I'm not aware of a political YouTuber that hasn't. That said if I stumbled into a disagreement between Hassan and asmon accidentally. It doesn't matter what day or what topic it is. I would side with Hassan long before asmon.
Asmon is the definition of a disgusting, unkempt ignorant incel armchair quarterback. Despite where Hassan and I might sometimes disagree. He is actually educated. Has some idea of what he's talking about. And is generally out there doing the right thing. So of course it makes a lot of sense that so many people would latch on to a stupid dumbass speaking with confidence over someone who actually knows what they're talking about. That is after all how Trump got where he is.
When the fuck did Asmongold become the largest POLITICAL streamer?
He went from games, to reacts, to the largest political just because he says stupid hateful MAGA shit?
When he discovered it's an easy grift, and even easier way to get attention which is what he really wants. Dude is a sad little man child, constantly searching for adoration. These are not deeply held, or even shallowly held beliefs he's just doing whatever gets his audience to be nice to him.
Because people are getting dumber. It used to be Ben Shabibo with his logical gymnastics, but now with the average right wingers getting dumber they don't need that shit, now they're just flocking to people like Assmongold and Charlie Kirk who just shouts keywords and that'll activate their neurons.
That's all. His chuds look for validation by finding a big streamer to regurgitate their views. Doesn't matter that his only life experience is rotting in front of WoW. Doesn't matter that he used the sunlight hitting a dead rat as an alarm clock. Doesn't matter that his teeth bleed.
It's weird. 6 months ago I hadn't heard of this guy and it seems like he's everywhere now.
He didn't, not even close—the OP just made that up to augment the ragebait level of their post, lol.
I started kind of liking this guy right before he ripped the mask off. This is the same thing that happened with Rogan. Started to like his content and within a few months he went full douchebag. I'm cursed.
same here, I used to like his Warcraft stuff and thought his house tour being complete untamed chaos was so hilarious. never knew of his political stuff until he commented on gaza and I was instantly made aware of the reality of his views.
Eh, I tried to be open-minded. Asmongold was funny and surprisingly articulate back when he just dunked on video game developers, but as time went on and Trump came into office, it really started falling apart. Rogan used to have doctors, scientists and educators on his show, and had enough humility to at least admit he was stupid and respected what they taught him. But just like Asmongold, Trump, money and the pandemic absolutely broke his brain.
He also profits from stealing other people's content. https://youtu.be/Irk8h0ax5aY
The problem with Rogan was that, even like 7 years ago, I was trying to tell dudes to stop listening to Joe Rogan because he platforms people with very dangerous, unscientific ideas. The response was always, "he has doctors and researchers on, too!" as if Rogan wasn't doing that on purpose as cover for him to broadcast his deeply reactive political views.
Maybe this experience is telling you to question your beliefs on yourself, your family, other people, your country, the world…
Ragefarming seems the only form of content lately... So sad...
It's so hard to find enclaves on the internet that aren't just reposting the same ragebait over and over.
Yeah agree still one of the things I love from Lemmy is that is more wholesome. Is not perfect yes, but way better interactions than any other place I've been to.
isn't this also the same guy who said he's ok with the genocide of Palestinians? (source)
Yep, he is pro trump and elon and anything nazi. But most of it is just his lack of intelligence. He will read a twitter post and 1sec later pronounce it as the truth on stream, without having any source. Hes a propaganda echo and unfortunately reflects the average American gamer pretty well. Should have stuck to gaming.
and his followers eat this right up and probably parrot it off elsewhere...that's both sad and infuriating
What's worse is now they'll go onto Twitter to talk to mechahitler (grok). It'll feed them manufactured lies and it'll be taken as a fact because these morons see AI as an absolute authority, or maybe as a scapegoat to justify their hateful ideologies. That's the "info" they'll be spreading. Already seen it in YouTube comments.
How the fuck is this gross dude the top streamer?
We're cooked.
Parasocialites are the biggest rejects of society and are the most likely to fall into the alt right pipeline because they're unable to get proper socialization anywhere else.
I imagine he's quite representative of people who watch Twitch all day.
I watch twitch, this dude is gross. I'll watch some pretty degenerate twitch streamers, but this guy seems like a grade a nazi.
Are you racist? Are you misogynistic? If not can you pretend to be?
If so, modern social media would like to promote you. Apply now!
Maybe if i was slightly more nihilistic and much more of an asshole i could pretend, alas it is not so.
not only a racist but also a misogynist, a present-day gamergater, who is literally in 2025 still complaining that "video games used to be made for guys and now they're made for everyone" 🤦
If he doesn't like today's games, then he can just ask ChatGPT to make it the old way. Or Grok for that MechaHitler edge.
I thought this guy just did shit reaction content? I was suggested a video before and he just sat with his stupid face in the corner most of the time making dumb comments and turning a slightly interesting 30 minute video into 3 hours. I couldn't be bothered to watch more than a few minutes and I feel like I am owed that time back.
Asmongold is a huge piece of shit. I never liked the dude. No idea why people listen to anything he says, dudes a grade A moron.
People like him have ruined the online gaming sphere with their low-life personalities and acting like racist children who just learned to talk.
Have you seen the aamon animation version of him?
https://youtu.be/MH2UkCLvXAk
I thought the voices for this were AI generated until I heard his quote on Palestine at the end and remembered that very clip which landed him a Twitch suspension. Fucking hell, those are all actual Asmongold quotes?
Oh yes, that's how Aamon makes his works, that's what makes them even more hilarious. Try the Kanye one next... Like, obviously, not at work.
His Andrew Tate one is comedy gold. Perfectly nails a depiction of him that's both realistic and incredibly unflattering uncanny valley body horror.
lmao, no, I haven't. That's horrific, hilarious, and eerily accurate somehow.
Fortunately for me, I had not until just now 😒
Bots are easy to buy to make you look popular. Also 50,000 people watching isn’t really all that many people in the greater aspect of the world.
He’s a human garbage dumpster. He’ll probably die from contamination from a mouse eating something that he eats later.
An absolute retard calling others retards, the irony is just hilarious...52k ppl tuning in to a dude spouting hate and nonsense in front of 30 bucks mic calling him self a political streamer, he's not even qualified for an actual job ...god, I hate tge internet
asmon rlly one of the dumbest mofos ive ever had the displeasure to be exposed too. Like most right wing grifters know they lie about shit to get their points across. This dude is so dumb he believes all of it
The fact that he’s got a following still, shows you just how underdeveloped some humans are. How sad must your life be, for you to watch and listen to this cockroach.
THE MAN LET RATS ROT IN HIS HOUSE AND CALLED IT HIS "ALARM CLOCK."
It amazes me people listen to a guy who chooses to live in a filthy roach infested house.
Didn't he have a roach electric itself by chewing through a cord and he just fucking left it there for months?
The rat alarm clock is pretty clever though. Once the roaches finish eating it, it's a snooze button!
Never watched him, but I assume you can smell his livestreams?
what a cunt.
it's obvious he doesn't even understand what a refugee is
and then goes on to say "why would you add people to your country that don't speak the language" in English and not the native tongue of the tribe that the land was stolen from
and what the fuck did he think happened to Poles who moved to the US 100 years ago? They weren't even considered "white."
Ukrainians in 2022 were considered "almost european", as in, almost "civilized"
The irony of this is that people who are hardline isolationist/against immigration use that having happened as fuel for their argument, because 'look what happened to the Native Americans when Europeans were able to immigrate en masse', and they argue that that's what'll happen to them if they allow immigration now.
It's always the people you most suspect of being ignorant racists...
This is only mildly infuriating, because we already knew he is a giant piece of shit.
I see clips of this guy in my recommended videos section on youtube all the time. I never click on them and I have watch history turned off anyway so I wonder how it's deciding that I should watch these clips. Either way, I find it odd how signal-boosted this clown is. The gaming-to-politics pipeline is too strong.
He knows nothing about politics, but realized that saying right wing bullshit gets engagement so now this is what we have.
Sometimes it feels like the internet is just a giant rat maze and people chase after whatever the algorithm rewards them for chasing.
This is why, lol. Since his videos are generally popular on YouTube, if you have no watch history for your recommendations to be based on, it's just always going to feed you whatever's popular, which will include his stuff.
You're doing it to yourself, in other words. I actually have watched a couple videos of his in the past, and yet, because it's rare, I never see his videos being recommended to me. Hell, in my experience, stuff recommended to me is rarely similar to things I've seen more than a month or so ago.
How is he not banned yet? I would have banned him just for not using deodorant.
Why are we giving a guy who used a dead rat as an alarm, and smeared blood from his gums on his walls attention?
The stupid beady-eyed prick is being a stupid beady-eyed prick.
I used to enjoy asmogold years ago when it was mostly just showing and talking about gaming (WoW mount offs etc)...then he started showing who he really was more and more and I noped out.
I don't get it. The first time I tuned into his stream he was screaming at his raid and being a complete ass in his disgusting neckbeard nest. Same thing the next few times I got curious enough to turn his stream on. At no point in time did he ever appear to not be a giant steaming pile of shit.
They only show their true colors when the feel that it is safe for them to do so. So this says more about Twitch and our current society than about this asshole.
One thing I dislike about streamers is when you can tell they are using their voice in a "hey you should take me seriously, I am obviously right" kind of tone, and are good at that, but the actual words are just repeating a common opinion and devoid of much any substance or argument. Like they think adjusting the way they say something makes them more right.
The part I like is that these fucking assholes will raise hell about "making things political!!!" if they happen to hear an opposing opinion.
I think they should all be hanged.
Can't agree with people who condone executions of any sort.
Freaky america, still stuck in medieval ages...
When you behave the way the people at the Nuremberg trials did, you deserve to be punished in the same way the people who were punished at the Nuremberg trials were.
Not even sure where to begin with. So my rational side tells me not to.
While i am open to all and any comparisons, no matter how much of a stretch, i would be really interested to hear who here acted like the literal nazis that stood trial at Nuremberg and how.
Then i would like to ask why is it important to kill people instead of imprisoning them. Justice? How is justice restored through 'revenge'? Maybe it does sate our sadism a bit but the injustice won't be undone. Is a rape victim helped when we rape the rapist? Does a murder victim come back to life after we kill the murderer? What is the goal?
'they have to be exterminated because they refuse to join or advance society' reads exactly like what Nazi would say when pressed on why killing whomever is ok so thank you for taking my side.
Reading comprehension like a toddler but yes lets pretend we did talk about fighting and not execution of people.
This kind of false equivalence is kind of annoying.
Doctors and serial killers both cut people, but they're clearly not the same, are they?
Where is it a false equivalence? Calling for the extermination of people sounds not like a false equivalence. I am not even arguing against violence or even killing Nazis if you have save a life. We are talking about executing someone you have in your power.
Your comparison sucks. If the Doctor kills people without need he would soon be in that second category.
Only heard about him for the first time recently, in the context of the Stop Killing Games initiative. He spoke in support of it (which is a good thing, yay), and is apparently involved in some way in the drama that gave SKG the boost it needed.
Trying to figure out who the hell he is and how he ties into it, I watched one of his videos on YouTube (reacting to someone else's video about SKG). Instantly got the impression that he's an asshole.. But at least he's on the right side when it comes to SKG.
Dude is the living incarnation of Nurgle. If I told you the stories you'd think I'm making them up or smth lmao
There is a reason he's commonly called asswithmold
I would like to hear more
Skg is happy to have any support it can, just keep your cockroaches and dead rat alarm clock on your side of the infinitely wide room.
He will flip-flop the moment SKG is saving a "woke" game.
too late at that point :)
Oh great, so SKG is another gamer-based alt right recruitment tool or something?
Fear/hate sells.
Baffles me why would anyone watch him at all. Maybe people watch him to see him destroy himself as in many other cases online. It it is that, then fuck all those enablers and let their life be a soulless, joyless, empty life.
I would debate that Asmongold has a Charisma. People, for the reason unbeknownst to me, are enjoying to watch other people destroy themselves. Typically, their target already shows some dysfunctional behavior. Asmon is textbook this case. There is no charisma. He is just attracting spectators by destroying his image and his personality. I saw same happen to many streamers and influencers and Asmon is not a special case. He is the case.
It's reality TV for incels. Wow look at that unkempt guy in a filthy apartment who's good at video games. I'm not quite as bad as he is I guess I'll watch to make myself feel better about the sad life I live in butthole-town USA.
Most Americans barely speak comprehensible English. We tolerate that, so it's not much for them to do the same in return.
that dint take long , on reddit where they were calling HASAN a hack, and was defending asmongold for being "real". they are all alike.
Used to game with him back in MoP. Sad to see this is where he ended up.
You personally? Cmon, hard to believe.
To be fair mist of pandaria was ages ago so maybe true
Yes, me personally, I used to play competitive World of Warcraft. Did timed challenge mode dungeons for realm's best at end of MoP too.
At least you didn't turn into the roach queen.
I am from Germany and the English skills of the most citizens are not the yellow from the egg.
Considering Twitch is owned by Amazon, which is owned by Jeff Bezos, I don't think it's really all that insane that Twitch allows this. And I'm sure as hell that Asmongold has made statements more unhinged than this.
I've always felt this is not a bug but a feature of the system; This is me being conspiratorial, but I've seen this type of shit streamer suddenly get huge as they add a political turn on their discourse and it happens the most right before elections in "certain countries". It was obvious for anyone a couple of years ago when gamer gate found a resurgence. Call it free market, call it bankrolling by political parties But I am getting really tired of watching this type of political clown pop out, make a lot of noise and spew a lot of nonsense and then fizzle out.
I have never been an Asmon watcher, so I don't know if his political content does better than his WoW content, but he's been a top streamer for a while. Well before he started doing political stuff. He was also renowned for being a disgusting moron, so the political side he picked makes sense.
I seen this guys clips before and am not gonna see them anymore after this.
i'm sorry, largest?
(it's either something like this, or OP elided the word "audience")
He will get away with it just like last time by saying sorry I didn't know or read any facts, and was just going with my inner hateful ignorant racist genocidal feelings about other ethnicities whom I hate and wish the worst upon. Anyway, thank you for the $10000 donations XxReatrd420GamerxX
the homeless person that lives in the mountains.
Lol I remember Dunkey complaining about this guy and twitch streamers in general showing up to E3 because "The only Twitch streamer that plays games is Pete Dorr, and he wasn't even on there"
I dont need to state my opinion of asmongold on here.
Everyone else has done that for me.
Which is funny considering what that phrase means.
Like the Nazis who fled to America after WW2 to avoid persecution?
Actually that's exactly the folks he wants.
Like that V2 Rocket guy who built the Apollo program?
He can definitely be the face of the right. Let Asmongold be what people think of when someone airs those kinds of opinions.
Quebec is actually not bilingual. It is 100% francophone. Administration included. Some people are bilingual but this is not a map of english bilingual speakers.
Shocked. Cannot believe it.
Asmondgold is so far past being relevant. He was intolerable when he was simply making World of Warcraft videos.
So squeaky.
Yeah, the voice someone's born with is definitely what should be focused on, when it comes to criticism.
Isn't this the same guy who identifies as communist? He isn't exactly stable.
What he says might be unpopular on this platform, but I don’t see the racism in it. Integrating large numbers of people from a completely different culture into your society is extremely difficult – if not outright impossible. Exhibit A: Sweden.
This is one of those things where dismissing people who are worried about this stuff as racists or xenophobes just alienates them – and pushes them to vote for the actual racists and xenophobes instead. That’s how you end up where the US is today.
Counterpoint, attempting to appease and cater to racists is the Ratchet Effect in action. This hasn't caused racists to actually vote for Democratic candidates, rather it simply moves the Overton Window rightward.
God forbid the racist asshat doesn't feel welcome on the internet. Fuck asmongold, he is stupid and this argument is stupid, racist and made in bad faith. He is plain wrong, don't defend the racist.
explain sweden, please
Massive amounts of refugees and immigrants since 2015, failure to integrate, gang violence, shootings and bombings among the highest per capita in Europe, and the rise of the right-wing nationalist Sweden Democrats.
Sweden basically became the cautionary tale among the Nordic countries of how not to handle mass immigration.
Edit: Sweden set to rent cells in Estonian jails as it runs out of room for its prisoners
wrong order.
SD started rising before the "immigrant wave", since we've had high immigration numbers since the 70s, but the shootings and bombings only started five years ago. they're mostly being carried out by people who were less than ten years old during that time. so the violence is, in a way, home-grown.
According to wikipedia their support was at around 4% in the 90's, 5.7% in 2010, 17.5% in 2018 and 20% in 2022.
There was a peak in immigration in the '70s, but that was still only half of what it was in 2015. I doubt it’s just a coincidence that their support seems to correlate pretty neatly with the number of immigrants. I never claimed that it’s the gang violence driving the increased support - it’s the immigration itself. The rise in violence just makes it easier for them to say “I told you so.”
gotta look at that graph per capita, sweden had a much smaller population in the 70s.
And what does that have to do with anything? Sweden’s population has grown from 8 million in the '70s to 10.5 million today. That’s 2.5 million more people - and 1.9 million of them are immigrants. The number of immigrants per capita has increased significantly since the '70s, not decreased. It has gone from 3.7% of the total population to 20.8%.
Of course Sweden, the dogwhistle for the racists and fascists trying to insist on the ""Islamification"" of Europe.
You're claiming ignorance on what can be explained by malice. There's no excuse for ignorance in this day and age when access to information is so open. These far-right fuckwits don't want integration, they want a race war. They want white supremacy.
The concerned citizen shtick is bullshit to cover for racism. Trying to appease them has proven time and time again to be pointless. The argument for not "alienating" the far-right is literally just "give them exactly what they want".
Appreciate the live demo of exactly what I was talking about.
Instead of engaging with the argument, you go straight to branding me a racist. This is why the far-right keeps gaining ground - not because people agree with them, but because they’re sick of being shouted down any time they try to talk about real issues. Apparently things still aren’t bad enough for that lesson to sink in.
EDIT: Ironically this just in: Sweden set to rent cells in Estonian jails as it runs out of room for its prisoners
That's because your argument is bollocks, as it is when Farage or Trump or any other grifter makes it. People of different backgrounds live integrated together in peace in many large cities around the world, but people like you act like all of society's ills are because we have too many brown people.
Wealth inequality sharply on the rise, social mobility going down the toilet, neoliberal economic ideology pushing people into poverty, of course people are frustrated. The arguments against the anti-immigration narrative are numerous, but aren't going to do much if you have no interest in listening to them, much like the right-wing talking heads in the media who like to shout over people who defend immigrants from the grotesque lies told about them.
Meaningless tosh. They don't agree with the far-right but yet they support the far-right because they were shouted down. By who exactly? Some bloke on the street? Someone on Twitter?
If you don't want to be labeled as racist, then stop pushing racist narratives and disinformation.
You're still doing it. I bring up integration challenges - you hear "brown people." I talk about political backlash - you call it disinformation. At no point have I blamed immigrants for wealth inequality or defended Farage or Trump, yet somehow you've lumped me in with all of it.
You asked by who people get shouted down? You're literally doing it right now. And you don't even realize it. That’s the whole tragedy. You think you're punching up - but all you're doing is making sure no one outside your bubble wants to talk to you, much less vote with you. Keep going. It's clearly working wonders.
This is fediverse. Balanced opinions aren't welcome here
Yeah ok.
I think asmon is entertaining and his takes are mostly pretty fair. I've watched him for a very long time. Yes I will be down voted, that I know.
I see nothing racist or xenophobic here. This isn't about race, its about how much effort is needed to reintegrate these people into your society.
It's actually really funny, that mild take like this sells to the hate mob here, while Hasan swinging a fucking gun on stream is ignored
Why are you defending such a turdwaffle?
Dude makes his living by making stupid takes and then playing up his doofus character to apologize like "durrrr sorry I didn't know it was bad to call someone a f*gg*t"
The devil doesn't need an advocate, and he has a hoard of frothing redpills to defend anything he says.
Tell me honestly, did you watch some of his streams, or did someone just told you he's a turdwaffle and you're just parroting someone eleses opinion? Or maybe you just see cherrypicked snippets and base your opinion on that?
Not his streams, but I'd watch his VODs that got popular on YouTube sometimes.
I had to block him like a year ago because the dumbest of his takes kept popping up in my recommended feed. The way he'd crank up the slack jawed hurr derr right before he said something intentionally divisive, drove me nuts.
But years ago his takes were fairly benign (or at least the VODs that made to YouTube were), iirc. I thought he was just kinda goofy, back then.
I don't know him from the WoW days, though.
I’ve watched him, he is irredeemably a racist, xenophobic bigot of a turdwaffle, just like you.
This one clip is all I need to hear to know everything I need to know about how shitty this guy is. Never watched a stream or clip of his before in my life.
Look at the examples he provides. Do Germans or Poles speak English moreso than Africans? Do Germans or Poles share foreign (American) values moreso than Africans? Why would Germans or Poles integrate into American culture moreso than Africans?
Not to disagree with your general argument, but yes, the average German actually does speak better English than the average citizen of pretty much every single African country. But then again, the average citizen of any given African country probably speaks better English than anyone living in Brooklyn or the rural south of the US, so there's that..,
This reminds the ignorance that Trump just demonstrated, praising Liberian president for his good English. Unlike Germany Liberia and 23 more African countries have English as an official language.
Pretty disingenuous take tbh. Of course it would be easier for someone used to living in a stable first world country to integrate into a new one than someone who might've grown up without access to school or a stable environment. This is of course not the fault of the individual, and everyone should strive to help poor countries stabilise and improve economically, but the fact remains
Oh really, you don't see anything racist or xenophobic about taking refugees from white skinned countries, but refusing ones from dark skinned countries?
"Makes sense to me"
It's about cultural similarity not skin colour. Skin pigmentation doesn't affect anything but the culture you grow up in matters a lot in how easy it is for someone to integrate into a new one.
Hypothetically, if you were in charge of screening immigrants, what kind of culture would you refuse?
Seeing the reality that some cultures are harder to integrate is not the same as refusing them. Similar to how unruly children need more attention from teachers than studious ones, some people likely need more help with integration and learning local customs.
Right, but in the context of the original clip, we're talking about refusing them
That's fair. I'm not trying to defend asmon just pointing out that there is nuance to it