I feel this for some British comedy shows. I love British comedies like IT Crowd, Black Books, Fleabag. But man, those shows that think making people cringe really hard is funny like the original Office doesn't do it for me.
They're meant to be more funny in a sense that you can relate to them as you've been in such situations and can now have the catharsis that you're not alone in those experiences. And as people usually do with such situations that are awful in the moment, you laugh at them in hindsight.
That's the intention of such cringe humour. Maybe the ones you listed have elements that relate more to your life than the ones you dislike? Or maybe they remind you of moments where the above just cannot apply to your emotional experience of them, and so they cannot be funny.
people had problems with it being a white-centric show in NYC of all places. also unrealistic as it was an expensive city and they dont look like they can afford the places.
How I Met Your Mother. Most laugh track comedies I found barely tolerable at best but that show fucking sucked major ass and I don’t trust the judgement of anybody who liked that show.
I'm sorry! I'm a trekkie so I really wanted to love it. I can't stand Seth McFarlane, though, and apparently it isn't just his animated shows like Family Guy or American Dad that I hate.
It started out being a Seth McFarlane show but quickly became a pretty legit sci Fi show. McFarlane has always been a Trekkie, he was even in Enterprise, so he actually tries to do right by it once he gets most of the Family Guy type humour out of his system
I'm convinced that the only way he got it greenlit was by selling it as "family guy in space" even though that's not what he wanted to do. So he hammed that up for the first couple of episodes to make the suits happy before phasing it out and making the show he actually wanted.
That.....makes a lot of sense lol. That's exactly how it plays out, yeah. I think it's a wonderful addition to Trekkie-type show catalogues, personally.
Yeah, or that it wasn't even sneaky, they just all agreed a couple of those episodes up front would broaden the appeal, and felt confident people would stick around once they got attached to the characters and into the sci-fi
Would it help if I told you that his particular brand of humour stops being the focal point after a bit? Iirc it doesn't last into the second season and is then replaced by actually thoughtful storytelling with light humour sprinkled on top.
Maybe. I think I stopped watching after the social credit episode in the first season. Maybe I'll check it out again if I ever have another reason to get Hulu.
I'll be honest: I haven't made it past (or even to the end of) that episode either. I've tried a couple of times, but end up stopping after a few minutes just from the sheer cringe.
And I really like the rest of the show, to the point where I don't want to skip any episodes, but that one I really ought to skip.
The first season, like all trek, is desperately trying to find its footing. That episode and 1-2 others could probably just straight up be skipped like how when I was looking for the best way to watch TNG for the first time the top ways I saw were "watch the first and last episode of season 1 and skip the rest".
Once the show gets its footing it gets really good really quickly.
Lower Decks is awesome, although you'll get more out of it if you've seen the 90s Trek shows as they're referenced often. Not required, though. There actually is going to be a 4th season of Orville, but it's about a year away currently.
Just to make sure, you didn't only watch season 1 episodes, right? The show gets a lot better and leans less on the Family Guy humor as it goes along.
EDIT: I saw you said you watched up until s1e7 in another comment. That episode in particular annoyed me for being a worse version of the Black Mirror s3e1 episode Nosedive. It's worth trying some later season episodes if you ever get the chance to see if you like them any better. And check out Nosedive as well!
if it wasnt in the show it wouldve been fine, but him being part of the cast makes the series questionable, hes not that good as actor, hes better at writing. ALso problems around him being involved with the writing has caused the series to barely make seasons in general, this has caused financial problems for some of the actors, and production too. having 36 episodes in 6 years is pretty bad. this was all from pallacki interview on michaels podcast.
I remember watching the pilot for the show, I was like, "oh this could be refreshing away from the stupidity of the rest of tv!". I was already onto anime by that point and had entirely stopped watching cable.
But no. Apparently, when the actual show started airing, it was EXACTLY as you describe, and a massive disappointment. Xbox and bad quips and trying to get girls? Absolutely not.
To be fair, the scene where Penny gifts Sheldon something like the glass Leonard Nimoy drank out of, for Christmas, had me crying with laughter. That's about it, though.
Edit: The napkin he used, and then signed with a note.
I fully don't get why people like that. It looks mean and dull and it's not even reality. The sexy ones also look like a shit stand-in for actual porn.
I like one category of reality tv and even then only a small subsection of them: Game Shows. The subsection in particular seems to be Japanese game shows subbed in English, the only ones I know so far tbh are Sasuke and Takeshi's Castle. As to why, Sasuke is just cool and Makoto Nagano rules, plus it's fun with the silly competitors. Takeshi's Castle is just plain hilarious. Conversely I hate basically all american versions, American Ninja Warrior was ass and Wipeout was too, yet both were just stolen rebrandings of their Japanese counterparts with all the whimsy and fun sucked out.
And I'm mainly posting this to solicit recommendations for more Japanese game shows like that which I can pirate.
I would put those in a completely separate category, actually. They're both older and more real than the "engineered compilation of random unscripted moments" type of thing.
I figure if Survivor counts (and people say it does) than those would too, but I feel you lol. I'll check it out, thanks! The older the better tbh! Takeshi's Castle was what like 1986ish?
they actively hire models, or attractive people on purpose. and many of them post show career, ends up as mlm, or worst on trumps administration, and of course porn too, sometimes they are pornstars before.
It feels like all the breaking bad characters were designed to be the heel. I couldn't stand any of them, and if I can't stand any of the characters, why would i bother continuing watching the show?
I also didn't like Breaking Bad (just finished it recently) - I don't know if it's because people kept hyping it up - but I do love Succession and that is another show where all characters are equally dislikable and I still liked them for it. So I guess Breaking Bad just isn't it for me.
The first season of breaking bad is pretty slow, and the show runners really like the pattern of a slow start with an intense finish to each season. It gets better, but if you don't like a slow burn it's not worth the effort.
I really like (most of) game of thrones, but it's a tough watch at times for sure. Breaking Bad on the other hand seemed to be nothing but a tough watch. Stopped watching when the mom starts smoking while pregnant. It was just too much, unrelenting misery for me. I can see it's a really well made show, that deserves the praise, but I just can't stomach it.
They lost me when they introduced so many new city characters in one episode and it became too much about teen romance and rebellion. I think this was start of second season.
So my intuition was correct. I have realised that I am the best judge of what content I will like. Reviews are useless because 99% of the time highly rated things are mediocre.
I had to get into it on my own time. I didn’t really like it the first time I tried watching it but I eventually started it back up again in VR and got sucked in.
isaip s13 and on, is pure cringe, the actors even into the show anymore. s1-11 was the best though, i think its was for the audience that grew up with the series.
I tried watching the first episode and turned off after 30 minutes because nothing happened. I had friends who loved watching it but it just seemed like a soap opera aimed at men—the drama was way too heavy for me.
Same! I gave it way more time than it deserved because so many people raved about the show. For me, it was like a snail-paced soap opera about the least likeable people in the world.
It's a great series but I agree, there's a lot of depressing vibes. I binged it recently and ended up being getting paranoid riding trains haha
I watched it cause it was interesting to explore a scenario where the top 1% was targeted, especially considering what's happening in the world right now.
I love the Mandalorian, but the people on succession were all just so horrible that I couldn’t stomach watching it anymore. I didn’t wanna be around thoseawful awful people.
Maybe view it through a different lens. It was a dark comedy to me. I was constantly bursting out laughing at how much these entitled pricks couldn't get out of their own way. They just play it straight and never give a wink to the audience
I won't try to change your mind, but I rewatch all of Succession like every 6 months. As soon as I finish I have to stop myself from starting over right away. God it's so good.
I found succession easier to watch from the second season onwards. Something about season 1 made me very uncomfortable, I'm not sure if it's the program that changed after that, or maybe I got used to the style of it.
I do not understand why anyone like the mandalorian. The stupid baby yoda is terrible. The special effects are terrible. The main actors acting is terrible. The background/side actors acting is terrible. Jon Faverou or whatever is terrible. Disneys big stupid dome green screen is terrible and lazy.
Everything about that show is terrible, and it epitomizes every worry Star Wars fans had when Disney bought the ip.
I felt the same. I also think that we viewers have so much more information than the characters... so even though there's mystery, we see the mysteries coming like 2 full episodes in advance. Yawn
Yellowstone. I wanted to like it because Americans riding horses and doing cowboy gun things is a vibe, and I wanted to get that without actually having to travel there and be around Americans. It’s just so bad though.
If you haven't already, you should give the spin offs a chance. Neither my wife or I can stand Yellowstone (we struggled through the first season and then gave up), but 1883 and 1923 are both fantastic shows.
Uhm. I’m glad you liked it. That country music guy and his wife have probably the most wooden acting ive seen outside a secondary school play, and they somehow have zero chemistry even though they’re actually married. My partner who loves Yellowstone for some indiscernible reason couldn’t even get through it.
Again though im glad you enjoyed it. I also enjoy stuff that most people would roast.
Buffy
Supernatural
Smallville
The Arrowverse stuff
I dunno man. I just couldn't get into the serialized urban fantasy pretty people vs monster of the week genre, even thought it feels like it should be right up my ally. I used to play a TON of V:tM and WW:tA, and Im all about camp and community theater energy. I liked some of the other Whedon stuff at the time, like Firefly. And I'm a life long fan of all things super heroes and I even respect Arrowverse from a far for its commitment to its status as a multimedia project (before the MCU, even).
More recently, some similarly themed shows have been made and I got into them way more; What We Do In The Shadows and Stan Against Evil, and I think maybe the magic sauce was that I would have liked the energy paired something less earnest and more tongue in cheek. All of these shows also had the issue of really annoying fandoms. Its probably the reason I couldn't lower my hackles around Doctor Who.
That's too bad about Buffy, it really grows into something very unique. It's also pretty much the originator of that horror/comedy genre, and one of the first serialized prime time shows, along with X-Files.
i think buffy is good for its time, but not post 2000s. Supernatural got wierd after 5th season, basically when kripke left the new showrunners decided to play into the parasocial fantasies of the fans and it made it all sexual and homo-erotic. i believe at one point (season 6) death threats were made against some of the guest cast(the ones that was dating DEAN in the show) and they couldnt come back. and you can see why how they act(the fans) when jensen ackles and jared does all these Conventions still. that is the reason why it continued for like 10 more years, past its lifespan. although there is at least 1 or 2 seasons (8 and 11)that were better than the rest.
smallville was intersting origin for superman, but if you look at all the superman/supergirl show that came out since then, its superior to those. michael rosenbaum was is a good lex luthor, but he gave up on the show at some point.
On my second try I enjoyed it...until the final season.
The show probably got different writers at that point. Whatever happened, everything previously built was just scrapped. It's like they made a list of random outlandish ideas, then shuffled and tried to connect them.
If they had brought it all home it would have been a good, offbeat kind of show.
Game of Thrones. I stopped watching when Aquaman raped the blonde.
Then I started reading the books. the rape scene was written slightly different, so...whatever. Then I got to the part where the brother/sister threw the boy out the window. Done. Violence against kids is my line.
spoilers but if you had stuck around you get to see the guy who pushed him out the window get his comeuppance. he spends the next season as a prisoner of war and gets his sword hand cut off. it changes him almost completely
but then again thats not the only scene in the series with violence against kids so maybe it was best to stop there
Oh, tv show is hot garbage this season rip to everyone suffering through that :/.
Question for you, isn’t there violence against children in the Witcher books? In the games, Geralt doesn’t enact any violence against children himself but he definitely comes across people that have harmed children. I know the games are their own thing, but I’d assume that there would be similar situations in the books that created that bleak universe.
Agreed; Tony has a problem. Tony gets angry. Tony solves problem by killing/having killed said person responsible for the problem was very much the dominant and highly repetitive story line. There was some nuance, sure, but not enough for my liking.
I never watched lost in it's heydays, i watched it much later. The cgi and everything seems so outdated. Then i got interested and understood why so many people liked it. But it all falls apart pretty quick.
Andor. It feels so different and it is interesting because it builds the empire, but somehow it just felt too different. I watched a video essay about it recently, where the essayist made the point that he loves it for being more serious and darker in tone than most other Star Wars Media. I wonder if seen through this lens I'd enjoy it more during a rewatch.
Later seasons of Clone Wars is quite good, same with Rebels. They fleshed out and/or introduced some of the best characters in the universe - with some of the best story arcs.
The Andor trilogy (including Rogue One) is phenomenal. Even if you don't like Star Wars.
The Madalorian starts out strong but degrades over time.
The Bad Batch also not bad.
But most of it has absolutely been quantity over quality. I mean, Episode 8 was so bad I still haven't seen Episode 9; haven't even bothered to pirate it.
It starts so boring. I barely made it through the first season and some of the second. It was sooooooo fucking dull that I gave up on it around the time what's his name dies in the desert.
Yeah, I did attempt to watch it a couple of times when it was still airing new seasons, but those first couple of episodes were just so boring, I couldn't get myself to continue.
And then of course it ended with the known flop and then I lost all interest in even attempting gain.
office, walking dead, ISAIP season 13+ only, Nutrek its just so bad and its a disrespect to the continuity of the franchise and roddenberrry, plus KURTZMAN has said he doesnt care about consistency(it was pretty clearly when your stealing or lifitng material directly from memory wiki alpha and beta site), which why it became pure garbage. GOT, ROP i assume people also think its terrible too.
The vast majority of them as I don't really watch movies or tv-series at all. Every time I give one a chance it ends up being a dissapointment and then I'm just less likely to try again.
The Office
It makes my skin crawl.
It's cringe pretending to be humor.
Same. If you want some actually laugh out loud hilarious cringe humor, I highly recommend Peep Show with Mitchell and Webb.
I will never forget the dog episode. This show was singed in my mind. Also a favorite of mine.
I love how you can just say the dog episode and everyone who's seen the show knows exactly what you mean
The turkey incident tho. (I need to do a rewatch.)
The original UK version of The Office is pretty good too.
The British will always win at police procedural/mystery/dramas and deadpan comedies.
Or the police procedural mystery deadpan comedy A Touch Of Cloth!
I've seen so many memes of it but I just couldn't get into it either!
The memes are funny though lol. Just not the show.
Loved the original, but US remake has just all the corners filed and padded.
The British original was even worse! I don't want to feel bad when watching a comedy!
Gotta laugh or else you'll cry-ahh humour
I feel this for some British comedy shows. I love British comedies like IT Crowd, Black Books, Fleabag. But man, those shows that think making people cringe really hard is funny like the original Office doesn't do it for me.
They're meant to be more funny in a sense that you can relate to them as you've been in such situations and can now have the catharsis that you're not alone in those experiences. And as people usually do with such situations that are awful in the moment, you laugh at them in hindsight.
That's the intention of such cringe humour. Maybe the ones you listed have elements that relate more to your life than the ones you dislike? Or maybe they remind you of moments where the above just cannot apply to your emotional experience of them, and so they cannot be funny.
same.
Friends.
Shallow, punchable people who made being dumb fucks a virtue.
people had problems with it being a white-centric show in NYC of all places. also unrealistic as it was an expensive city and they dont look like they can afford the places.
To be fair, I have friends who love this show but also admit it hasn't aged well.
The only redeemable one is Phoebe. The rest feel like self-centered assholes, especially Ross and Rachael.
I’m pretty sure that was every 20-35 year old in the 90s.
Big Bang Theory, and all 'reality' shows.
How I Met Your Mother. Most laugh track comedies I found barely tolerable at best but that show fucking sucked major ass and I don’t trust the judgement of anybody who liked that show.
For reals. That show is so absolutely unfunny, it astounds me that anyone could enjoy watching it
I couldn't take getting through half of the season (at least I think I made it halfway through)
The last 2 seasons of that show were total and utter dogshit. The earlier seasons are great though.
same. i stopped watching when i realised i didnt laugh at a single joke all throughout the first season
The Orville.
I'm sorry! I'm a trekkie so I really wanted to love it. I can't stand Seth McFarlane, though, and apparently it isn't just his animated shows like Family Guy or American Dad that I hate.
It started out being a Seth McFarlane show but quickly became a pretty legit sci Fi show. McFarlane has always been a Trekkie, he was even in Enterprise, so he actually tries to do right by it once he gets most of the Family Guy type humour out of his system
I'm convinced that the only way he got it greenlit was by selling it as "family guy in space" even though that's not what he wanted to do. So he hammed that up for the first couple of episodes to make the suits happy before phasing it out and making the show he actually wanted.
That.....makes a lot of sense lol. That's exactly how it plays out, yeah. I think it's a wonderful addition to Trekkie-type show catalogues, personally.
Yeah, or that it wasn't even sneaky, they just all agreed a couple of those episodes up front would broaden the appeal, and felt confident people would stick around once they got attached to the characters and into the sci-fi
Would it help if I told you that his particular brand of humour stops being the focal point after a bit? Iirc it doesn't last into the second season and is then replaced by actually thoughtful storytelling with light humour sprinkled on top.
Maybe. I think I stopped watching after the social credit episode in the first season. Maybe I'll check it out again if I ever have another reason to get Hulu.
Thanks ^^
I'll be honest: I haven't made it past (or even to the end of) that episode either. I've tried a couple of times, but end up stopping after a few minutes just from the sheer cringe.
And I really like the rest of the show, to the point where I don't want to skip any episodes, but that one I really ought to skip.
The first season, like all trek, is desperately trying to find its footing. That episode and 1-2 others could probably just straight up be skipped like how when I was looking for the best way to watch TNG for the first time the top ways I saw were "watch the first and last episode of season 1 and skip the rest".
Once the show gets its footing it gets really good really quickly.
I started watching Star Trek because I loved The Orville. I didn't know people had such hatred for it.
I really liked Orville, I was going to try star trek at some point
Its biggest influence is Next Generation, but Strange New Worlds is the closest modern Trek in that style if you don't like old 90s shows.
Definitely got some Lower Decks vibes as well. Are they ever gonna make more Orville seasons?
Lower Decks is awesome, although you'll get more out of it if you've seen the 90s Trek shows as they're referenced often. Not required, though. There actually is going to be a 4th season of Orville, but it's about a year away currently.
nutrek is pretty bad to be honest. the animated series is much better than thier 3 series.
Some do, but I think The Orville is a much better Star Trek show than Discovery in particular.
Just to make sure, you didn't only watch season 1 episodes, right? The show gets a lot better and leans less on the Family Guy humor as it goes along.
EDIT: I saw you said you watched up until s1e7 in another comment. That episode in particular annoyed me for being a worse version of the Black Mirror s3e1 episode Nosedive. It's worth trying some later season episodes if you ever get the chance to see if you like them any better. And check out Nosedive as well!
if it wasnt in the show it wouldve been fine, but him being part of the cast makes the series questionable, hes not that good as actor, hes better at writing. ALso problems around him being involved with the writing has caused the series to barely make seasons in general, this has caused financial problems for some of the actors, and production too. having 36 episodes in 6 years is pretty bad. this was all from pallacki interview on michaels podcast.
Big bang theory. Cannot stand the characters on that show, especially Sheldon
The best concise description of that show I've heard was "it's what people who aren't nerds think nerds would like".
I remember watching the pilot for the show, I was like, "oh this could be refreshing away from the stupidity of the rest of tv!". I was already onto anime by that point and had entirely stopped watching cable.
But no. Apparently, when the actual show started airing, it was EXACTLY as you describe, and a massive disappointment. Xbox and bad quips and trying to get girls? Absolutely not.
To be fair, the scene where Penny gifts Sheldon something like the glass Leonard Nimoy drank out of, for Christmas, had me crying with laughter. That's about it, though.
Edit: The napkin he used, and then signed with a note.
i remember the sub that was discussing big ban theory how they turned penny into a stem professional into a total "bimbo" by the end of the series.
I mean, this is Lemmy, it's a show about making fun of us.
And honestly I'd respect that if they put effort into it, but "lol nerd" is like 90% of the plot.
Silicon Valley also makes fun of nerds, but it's for nerds. BBT just made nerds the butt of the joke.
They're not nerds. They're geeks at worst and really just programmers.
That show is literally trash.
When Sheldon says "Bazinga" I throw 10 metric tonnes of popcorn at the screen. Funniest thing I've ever seen /s
Any and all "reality" TV.
I fully don't get why people like that. It looks mean and dull and it's not even reality. The sexy ones also look like a shit stand-in for actual porn.
I like one category of reality tv and even then only a small subsection of them: Game Shows. The subsection in particular seems to be Japanese game shows subbed in English, the only ones I know so far tbh are Sasuke and Takeshi's Castle. As to why, Sasuke is just cool and Makoto Nagano rules, plus it's fun with the silly competitors. Takeshi's Castle is just plain hilarious. Conversely I hate basically all american versions, American Ninja Warrior was ass and Wipeout was too, yet both were just stolen rebrandings of their Japanese counterparts with all the whimsy and fun sucked out.
And I'm mainly posting this to solicit recommendations for more Japanese game shows like that which I can pirate.
I would put those in a completely separate category, actually. They're both older and more real than the "engineered compilation of random unscripted moments" type of thing.
I have no recommendations, unfortunately, haha.
Well people consider Survivor reality tv, so idk I figured it was towards that genre. But whatever we consider it, I like it haha.
Haha okay I love Japanese game shows but I almost can't call them reality. :P I recommend Silent Library. An older show but great.
I figure if Survivor counts (and people say it does) than those would too, but I feel you lol. I'll check it out, thanks! The older the better tbh! Takeshi's Castle was what like 1986ish?
they actively hire models, or attractive people on purpose. and many of them post show career, ends up as mlm, or worst on trumps administration, and of course porn too, sometimes they are pornstars before.
reality has always been trash, and they cancelled shows just so they can have that slop because it brings in the lowest common denominators.
Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones
Couldn’t get past a season and the fandoms are just obnoxious.
It feels like all the breaking bad characters were designed to be the heel. I couldn't stand any of them, and if I can't stand any of the characters, why would i bother continuing watching the show?
I also didn't like Breaking Bad (just finished it recently) - I don't know if it's because people kept hyping it up - but I do love Succession and that is another show where all characters are equally dislikable and I still liked them for it. So I guess Breaking Bad just isn't it for me.
The first season of breaking bad is pretty slow, and the show runners really like the pattern of a slow start with an intense finish to each season. It gets better, but if you don't like a slow burn it's not worth the effort.
I love a slow burn, but Breaking Bad just never did it for me.
I really like (most of) game of thrones, but it's a tough watch at times for sure. Breaking Bad on the other hand seemed to be nothing but a tough watch. Stopped watching when the mom starts smoking while pregnant. It was just too much, unrelenting misery for me. I can see it's a really well made show, that deserves the praise, but I just can't stomach it.
You don't have to engage with the fandom while watching a thing
Lost.
Boring af.
It was super popular, I think people maybe have some nostalgia for it, but it's really a bad show.
Stranger Things.
They lost me when they introduced so many new city characters in one episode and it became too much about teen romance and rebellion. I think this was start of second season.
Oh, when eleven runs away to the city? It gets even better: none of that shit comes back up again.
But it absolutely does keep leaning into teen romance. I always felt it was a decent show but overrated, and it dropped off hard.
So my intuition was correct. I have realised that I am the best judge of what content I will like. Reviews are useless because 99% of the time highly rated things are mediocre.
I had to get into it on my own time. I didn’t really like it the first time I tried watching it but I eventually started it back up again in VR and got sucked in.
Arrested development and it's always sunny.
I really don't care for cringe humor where everyone is an idiot.
isaip s13 and on, is pure cringe, the actors even into the show anymore. s1-11 was the best though, i think its was for the audience that grew up with the series.
Game of Thrones.
The incest didn't bother me, but pushing a child out a window hit the wrong note with me and my wife.
That's mild compared to later seasons. It does get pretty fucking sadistic.
I see where you're coming from and it's not for everyone.
Wait until you read literally any bit of human history.
Uh...
Honestly good you got out. I still think about some of the darker parts of the books. The older and more aware I become the sicker they make me feel.
I tried watching the first episode and turned off after 30 minutes because nothing happened. I had friends who loved watching it but it just seemed like a soap opera aimed at men—the drama was way too heavy for me.
Don’t check the Red Wedding scene on Youtube
To clarify, the incest didn't SHOCK me. Kids out of windows did.
Lost.
god help me it was so fucking boring and riddled with holes. I still don't understand how it was so popular.
They did 2 things well (from an economic perspective) in my vaguely shit memory:
It paved the way for a lot of long running, high budget tv shows like heroes, supernatural etc...
I also severely disliked it.
Same! I gave it way more time than it deserved because so many people raved about the show. For me, it was like a snail-paced soap opera about the least likeable people in the world.
Might be the only person I've ever seen in my life who disliked the Sopranos. I assume you don't eat Gabagool?
The Office
UK, US, or Aussie?
Literally every country on the planet.
It's a great series but I agree, there's a lot of depressing vibes. I binged it recently and ended up being getting paranoid riding trains haha
I watched it cause it was interesting to explore a scenario where the top 1% was targeted, especially considering what's happening in the world right now.
These negative reviews make me really want to watch it. Most TV glosses over all uncomfortable truths.
some shows might jive with other people better than others. and many are as bad as the reviews.
I just love how the Elliot is like "I'm so lonely and depressed" and has like 8 close friends and gets a girlfriend and immediately gets intimate.
I would think it a bit more immersive if they made his depression about something else entirely from the start.
The Mandalorian.
Succession.
I love the Mandalorian, but the people on succession were all just so horrible that I couldn’t stomach watching it anymore. I didn’t wanna be around thoseawful awful people.
Maybe view it through a different lens. It was a dark comedy to me. I was constantly bursting out laughing at how much these entitled pricks couldn't get out of their own way. They just play it straight and never give a wink to the audience
I won't try to change your mind, but I rewatch all of Succession like every 6 months. As soon as I finish I have to stop myself from starting over right away. God it's so good.
In your defense the mandalorian only has about 1 season worth watching, and most of that is pretty repetitive.
I found succession easier to watch from the second season onwards. Something about season 1 made me very uncomfortable, I'm not sure if it's the program that changed after that, or maybe I got used to the style of it.
I do not understand why anyone like the mandalorian. The stupid baby yoda is terrible. The special effects are terrible. The main actors acting is terrible. The background/side actors acting is terrible. Jon Faverou or whatever is terrible. Disneys big stupid dome green screen is terrible and lazy.
Everything about that show is terrible, and it epitomizes every worry Star Wars fans had when Disney bought the ip.
Succession is a hot take that show is goated.
Attack On Titan ( basically all the Anime )
One Punch Man is good. I enjoyed it
Also Mob Psycho 100 (same studio I think)
I watched Attack on Titan and thought it was ok. If you want to watch some good anime I thoroughly recommend the above
AOT took way too long to finish such a short series, no need to extend like almost 10years.
I guess you're the opposite of a weeb, a beew.
Severance. So. Goddamn. Slow.
I felt the same. I also think that we viewers have so much more information than the characters... so even though there's mystery, we see the mysteries coming like 2 full episodes in advance. Yawn
Totally. I enjoy the premise of the show, but the delivery is sleep-inducing.
Yellowstone. I wanted to like it because Americans riding horses and doing cowboy gun things is a vibe, and I wanted to get that without actually having to travel there and be around Americans. It’s just so bad though.
It didn't intrigue me but the old white guys at work like it so I knew there was something wrong with that show
conservative white people love the show.
If you haven't already, you should give the spin offs a chance. Neither my wife or I can stand Yellowstone (we struggled through the first season and then gave up), but 1883 and 1923 are both fantastic shows.
I'm going to stick my neck out and say 1883 was one of the best shows I've seen on TV.
Uhm. I’m glad you liked it. That country music guy and his wife have probably the most wooden acting ive seen outside a secondary school play, and they somehow have zero chemistry even though they’re actually married. My partner who loves Yellowstone for some indiscernible reason couldn’t even get through it.
Again though im glad you enjoyed it. I also enjoy stuff that most people would roast.
What made the difference for you for the spin-offs?
I don't know why but they don't feel like never ending soap operas
Buffy Supernatural Smallville The Arrowverse stuff
I dunno man. I just couldn't get into the serialized urban fantasy pretty people vs monster of the week genre, even thought it feels like it should be right up my ally. I used to play a TON of V:tM and WW:tA, and Im all about camp and community theater energy. I liked some of the other Whedon stuff at the time, like Firefly. And I'm a life long fan of all things super heroes and I even respect Arrowverse from a far for its commitment to its status as a multimedia project (before the MCU, even).
More recently, some similarly themed shows have been made and I got into them way more; What We Do In The Shadows and Stan Against Evil, and I think maybe the magic sauce was that I would have liked the energy paired something less earnest and more tongue in cheek. All of these shows also had the issue of really annoying fandoms. Its probably the reason I couldn't lower my hackles around Doctor Who.
That's too bad about Buffy, it really grows into something very unique. It's also pretty much the originator of that horror/comedy genre, and one of the first serialized prime time shows, along with X-Files.
i think buffy is good for its time, but not post 2000s. Supernatural got wierd after 5th season, basically when kripke left the new showrunners decided to play into the parasocial fantasies of the fans and it made it all sexual and homo-erotic. i believe at one point (season 6) death threats were made against some of the guest cast(the ones that was dating DEAN in the show) and they couldnt come back. and you can see why how they act(the fans) when jensen ackles and jared does all these Conventions still. that is the reason why it continued for like 10 more years, past its lifespan. although there is at least 1 or 2 seasons (8 and 11)that were better than the rest.
smallville was intersting origin for superman, but if you look at all the superman/supergirl show that came out since then, its superior to those. michael rosenbaum was is a good lex luthor, but he gave up on the show at some point.
Euphoria and The Office.
Friends
Seinfeld
Yellowstone
The Office
The Office season 1 is dogshit
The rest is excellent
I don't think you're supposed to like Yellowstone. I think you're supposed to feel obligated towards it
thats why conservatives love it, its a circle jerk show for them.
This might be the only time in my life that I have ever heard someone say they didn't like Seinfeld. Never thought I'd see the day.
We run in different circles. Quite a few people I know hate the show
The Leftovers. Tried twice.
On my second try I enjoyed it...until the final season.
The show probably got different writers at that point. Whatever happened, everything previously built was just scrapped. It's like they made a list of random outlandish ideas, then shuffled and tried to connect them.
If they had brought it all home it would have been a good, offbeat kind of show.
Game of Thrones. To much a period drama.
Game of Thrones. I stopped watching when Aquaman raped the blonde.
Then I started reading the books. the rape scene was written slightly different, so...whatever. Then I got to the part where the brother/sister threw the boy out the window. Done. Violence against kids is my line.
spoilers but if you had stuck around you get to see the guy who pushed him out the window get his comeuppance. he spends the next season as a prisoner of war and gets his sword hand cut off. it changes him almost completely
but then again thats not the only scene in the series with violence against kids so maybe it was best to stop there
Did you play the Witcher?
No. I read the books and watched the TV show.
Oh, tv show is hot garbage this season rip to everyone suffering through that :/.
Question for you, isn’t there violence against children in the Witcher books? In the games, Geralt doesn’t enact any violence against children himself but he definitely comes across people that have harmed children. I know the games are their own thing, but I’d assume that there would be similar situations in the books that created that bleak universe.
Is it just not as explicit as the GoT stuff?
Sorry just kind of curious is all.
In the books he was such a caring guy. The rape scene was just sensationalist claptrap.
Sopranos.
The Mafia and gangster genre has just never appealed to me. I always find the characters annoying and one-dimensional.
Agreed; Tony has a problem. Tony gets angry. Tony solves problem by killing/having killed said person responsible for the problem was very much the dominant and highly repetitive story line. There was some nuance, sure, but not enough for my liking.
Lost - for some reason I just could't bring myself to care about any of the characters or the premise.
I never watched lost in it's heydays, i watched it much later. The cgi and everything seems so outdated. Then i got interested and understood why so many people liked it. But it all falls apart pretty quick.
It went from interesting to frustrating to enraging that I wasted my time. I watched it all. I wish I could have that time back.
Andor. It feels so different and it is interesting because it builds the empire, but somehow it just felt too different. I watched a video essay about it recently, where the essayist made the point that he loves it for being more serious and darker in tone than most other Star Wars Media. I wonder if seen through this lens I'd enjoy it more during a rewatch.
post-disney buyout STar wars isnt that good.
Later seasons of Clone Wars is quite good, same with Rebels. They fleshed out and/or introduced some of the best characters in the universe - with some of the best story arcs.
The Andor trilogy (including Rogue One) is phenomenal. Even if you don't like Star Wars.
The Madalorian starts out strong but degrades over time.
The Bad Batch also not bad.
But most of it has absolutely been quantity over quality. I mean, Episode 8 was so bad I still haven't seen Episode 9; haven't even bothered to pirate it.
Breaking bad, walking dead, any star wars show
So uninteresting imo
Andor season 2, doesn’t catch on after 4 episodes. Done with it.
Buffy.
It was just a big sloppy plateful of Beverly Hills, 90210 with a small side salad of weird shit.
GOT
It gets so boring and does nothing for you to care about the starks
It starts so boring. I barely made it through the first season and some of the second. It was sooooooo fucking dull that I gave up on it around the time what's his name dies in the desert.
Yeah, I did attempt to watch it a couple of times when it was still airing new seasons, but those first couple of episodes were just so boring, I couldn't get myself to continue.
And then of course it ended with the known flop and then I lost all interest in even attempting gain.
I gave up during season 3 and found season 1and 2 to be ok
Firefly. Amatuerish acting and plots that barely reached "Atomic Rifle" levels of sophistication don't really sit well with me.
I don't understand Parks and Rec.
Any sitcom or comedy.
Firefly. I thought I could stomach sci-fi but I find it unwatchable for personal reasons. I wish I could but it's not for me.
it only had 1 season, definitely wouldve been able to see the scope if it had mroe season.
office, walking dead, ISAIP season 13+ only, Nutrek its just so bad and its a disrespect to the continuity of the franchise and roddenberrry, plus KURTZMAN has said he doesnt care about consistency(it was pretty clearly when your stealing or lifitng material directly from memory wiki alpha and beta site), which why it became pure garbage. GOT, ROP i assume people also think its terrible too.
The office is very worth, you just have to struggle through season 1. 2 and beyond are fucking gold and very rewatchable.
My this question certainly comes up very often on here doesn't it.
The vast majority of them as I don't really watch movies or tv-series at all. Every time I give one a chance it ends up being a dissapointment and then I'm just less likely to try again.
I prefer YouTube.