To join Facebook these days, one must record a video selfie
I wanted to buy something second-hand. Unfortunately, Facebook Marketplace is the shit where I live. So I thought I could quickly register, contact the seller, and delete my account afterwards.
However, I refuse to participate in this insanity. Video selfie my ass, Facebook.
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I mean, it's a bit of both.
I don't think they care if you're real anymore
They care quite a bit.
Bots and spammers make for miserable revenue generators. If you don't distinguish your marks from your players, there's no way to make money at the poker table.
I would agree with this if Zuck hadn't been in the news recently talking about how Meta is desperately filling their userbase with bots, on purpose
There is a big difference between bots you control and use for you own gain, and bots that someone else owns and uses for their gain
Their point still stands - the bots need to know who to target to generate revenue, otherwise they waste your money.
I would agree with this and in fact I do
~ Mitch Hedberg
Can't really be a bit of both because they can't confirm shit if they don't know what you look like in the first place. It could be to confirm that you are human (and maybe that you don't already have an account) but they can't confirm your "identity".
Sadly they totally can. There are plenty of face databases already that they could use if they wanted1, but if you have friends on Facebook (or Instagram) you might be in their pictures and Facebook run it's facial recognition on every picture. Whether they can connect that to an identity or not isn't something I know, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.
Tangentially related, I remember over ten years ago getting notified that I could tag myself in friends uploaded pictures that I was in, which was also when I started to get really creeped out by Facebook.
Footnotes
I remember this podcast about some https://www.searchengine.show/should-this-creepy-search-engine-exist/ but there is a decent amount of reporting about them ↩
and if they find or know a way to sell that with the other data colleted from you, they will proudly do it
Kyc requirements are for banks
this is not a kyc requirement imposed on facebook based on laws, but by facebook based on their ToS.
For years people have given me the blinking stare of unbelief when I tell them I've never had a Facebook. Now being absent on that platform and others is seen as suspicious. I got a buddy who couldn't complete a job application because Facebook was a mandatory field in the electronic form. The border Gestapo and the State Department require your socials for visa applications. A friend told me that she wouldn't date a guy without socials because she browses them as a kind of background check.
Fuck Meta.
Most of those are indeed bullshit since authorities have better platforms and businesses don't need to know your private info.
But women doing background checks to see what kind of men they are dating on the only platforms they have access to is just security. You can even leave your accounts info fully locked except for friends.
No, it's quite healthy to each having their private account they don't share with their partner. Guess what the reverse is.
Huh
Edit: apparently I've angered people by not knowing what this means. It sounds like multiple levels of sarcasm but whatever
I don’t follow either. It sounds like they’re talking about couples making joint Facebook accounts, which is a complete non-sequitur from all the comments before it.
But I might be wrong, as it seems a lot of people understand something that we’re missing. Would anyone that understands this better mind giving some clarification?
Apparently you're a modern horror story.
That's a generational thing. 99% of my friends and people of my age I know have never had Facebook.
Instagram, however…Too old or too young?
Too young. Most facebook users are actually boomers nowadays.
The same people who two decades ago would have look at you sideways for using internet to talk with strangers. These idiots always conform to what is popular.
Same, I always assume the worst with big companies and/or data.
They were always scummy.
Never gave my name or info, never been on social platforms unless there was a good reason to be on them.
You can bypass this via https://github.com/hacksider/Deep-Live-Cam. You can get the faces needed from https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/. Although if you are privacybro, there's no documentation yet for running Deep Live Cam on Linux. This method is more private than using phone numbers since you can do this with disposable emails.
2025, everyone.
Modern problems require modern solutions! Thanks.
We don’t need documentation where we’re going 🌈
Oh, sweet. Not using Facebook, but that's nice !
I got this on one of my joke accounts years ago.
I googled "3d face generator", clicked on the first website, and slapped in an image of trump. Then I just rotated the 3d model following whatever the instructions were, and it worked lol
which means a bot could also easily pass the test, even though they claim it's for checking you are not a bot
Discord asks your phone number for logging in from different locations when you already have TOTP 2FA and they still try to gaslight knowing your phone number is for your "security"
I would sooner put my nuts in an iron vice while running 10.000 volts through it and lighting it on fire than provide Facebook with anything at all.
Me too, but it has nothing to do with Facebook. Don't kink shame me.
How about putting googly eyes on your nuts and making a video selfie of them to send Facebook?
🏀🍆👀⚽
that might actually get him verified
I think I will steal your wording for future use.
Have you ever had a Facebook account?
Nope. Managed to stay off of it for my entire life so far. Reason for it was that back in '05 or a bit later one of the very first things I learned about the nascent Facebook, was Zuck's famous "Dumb fucks" remark about his early users. I rightfully concluded that someone with such a mindset would be an absolutely plague on mankind and I would never willingly help them in any way, no matter how insignificant.
What socials have you had then?
Reddit until two years ago, and now Lemmy. That's honestly it.
Same for me. I never understood what motivated that content and, by extension, why I should care about consuming it.
Ooo you had a cheeseburger tonight! IDGAF.
Some witty political insights! Fuck off.
Your child was born! Wonderful, send an email or an announcement card in the mail.
Large scale emergency! I’m going to a reputable news source; I don’t need user-curated echo chambers.
Old friends and acquaintances catching up? I’ve had the same cell phone number for 25 years. If they wanted to reach out, they can refer to the phone number I wrote in the yearbook.
It’s just dumb.
Fair enough, I honestly applaud you for that, because you’ve managed to avoid the data sucking machine of meta and its services
I had one many years ago because my wife talked me i to it and 'deleted' it due to not using it after a couple years because it was showing me other things than just my contacts even back then. It was mostly a way to see my hogh school acquaintences and childhood friends who moved far away were still alive.
The superficial connections were fine, but not engaging like nearby friends. I have one friend who does post there and sometimes forgets to put it elsewhere, but my wife lets me know when he does.
Note: I put 'deleted' because there is zero chance they deleted anything other than the ability to log in.
Even if you don't have a facebook account, you've got a facebook account.
Zucky needs your image so he can share with with Homeland, in case you visit too many liberal pages.
"We, a company that has allowed AI generated propaganda to run rampant and destabilize global politics, need to make sure you are a real person so you must provide us with a video proving you are real that we totally wont use for AI and facial recognition purposes."
I 100% trust this, Zuckerberg is fine upstanding man
That probably won't work, since they expect your face. Worth a try, though.
just do a face swap thingy
These verification systems have already been defeated with locally-run AI models. This is now only a barrier to humans.
also helps feed their mass surveillance
I fucking hate that marketplace is the new place to find second hand stuff. Meta developed a marketplace to keep people on their website, not to have a good place to sell stuff. There are existing options they were actually developed as marketplaces that are slowly dying because of Meta's crap product.
It's seriously infuriating having to go into Facebook marketplace to buy a used car now. Missing some key filters that make it so hard to browse.
Is Craigslist shit now? What happened to it?
Its still the same as it ever was, just less traffic and they charge five bucks to list vehicles now. I still use it but responses are a lot slower.
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This is the reason i haven't delete my facebook, my pre-massively-enshittified account doesn't need to go through any of this shit.
Yeah, I regret deleting my old account now. I never used it except for marketplace. Now I’m realizing Craigslist is pretty much dead in comparison
I made an account over decade ago, never really used it even back then because I was suspicious even then. Then i tried logging in years after that and they demanded passport or some other identification to even let me log in.
So i sent them a picture i drew myself, i would post it here but i dont think i have the file anymore. It was basically like a mockup passport with picture of a clown and a stamp with picture of middle finger. I hoped they would just ban my account or something since that is about best I can hope. They would never abide by gdpr request and even if they say they did there is no way to know if they actually did.
I'm in the same boat. I have leftover PC parts to offload and Craigslist is shit and the Nextdoor app doesn't have as much reach from what I can see.
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I recently deleted it since my friends finally decided to move on from messenger to... Instagram.
Progress is progress right? Anyway I'm not planning on ever using the marketplace so hopefully I will never need an account again.
that's not progress, it is trend. in zero ways it is better.
it's progress in the way that it's not on a dead platform anymore and I need one less social media account
I cant comment on dead platform, but did you register on instagram for this reason, or was that an old account? in the former case you don't have one less accounts. but then one could also argue whether deleting one meta service account and registering another makes a difference
no I already had Instagram
It’s funny because I created an IG a year or so ago and I don’t recall it asking these questions.
Edit: don’t ask me questions that require logging in as I don’t know my password
Ig and fb is kinda separated iirc, even when it all fall under Meta. So does Thread.
Last time my buddy sent me a Facebook link, it wouldn't let me view it without giving them my phone number. I did not.
Not on mobile I couldn't. Full screen prompt for my phone number. No way out but to put it in or just close it.
It could be. It was a video.
Only on desktop, I believe
I'd imagine it's far more difficult (and possibly illegal) to forcibly gain access to a website that denies access until you log in or register. Maybe there could be an extension that creates throwaway accounts for you to use, but I'm not aware of any myself.
I wonder if it's possible to register a VOIP number for free and use it for Facebook. I haven't tried it myself.
I truly don't know either way, but it would be laughable of them if the only thing that blocks unregistered users from loading more content is a pop-up. I've gotten through forced pop-ups with uBlock's block element tool in the past.
Discord does this for logging in from different places a lot which is bonkers to me how many people dont care about it, it doesnt even matter if you have TOTP 2FA activated, they still try to gaslight the need for phone number is for "security"
I quit facebook 10 years ago. I am 67. If this old fart can quit so can you.
Don’t make it easier for the american fascist government to identify you even further on Facebook.
I am now, and will forever remain, a child of the old internet.
When your username was all that other people knew about you, and you didnt even like them having that for anonymity reasons, lol.
I continue to be baffled about how people on the internet went from "Don't tell anyone, anything about you!" to "Hi My name is Dan Rutherford, I like at 5849 Blasse Rd, in Tarry Birch,Kenfucky. Heres a picture of myself, my wife, my children, and a list of everything expensive I have in the house. Also my childs bedroom window wont lock. Anyway, we're going on a 3 week european vacation now! Expect hourly updates!
PS: Heres my birthday, and my childhood elementary school, where I was born, and the name of my childhood dog. In case anyone needs to answer my security questions"
Fb is nothing more than promoting right wing propaganda.
I get it. They want to combat bots and potentially even detect if a person is old enough to use the platform. However Facebook has eroded absolutely any trust that there's no way I'd give them this. Not that I use Facebook anyway.
There's no way they want to combat bots. You report bot content and they're like "nah, this doesn't go against our community guidelines" all the fucking time.
What do you expect from a company that removed independent fact-checkers, wanted to add AI profiles as users, amongst other things? I think they relish bots and the engagement they bring to the platform, completely blind-sided by how bad it looks for them long-term.
I don't even think they care about image. That was early-game for them. Now they've scooped so much data on people that they could probably close Facebook and still manage to track people based on metadata and shadow profiles.
I'd kind of think it would be in their interest to, not because they give a shit about what their end users think, but what their customers (advertisers) think. I'd imagine that advertisers are paying x amount to reach real humans that can spend money, so if it turns out that businesses are paying to advertise to bots then I can't see them being too happy about that. Not unless they're upfront with businesses and they tell them that x% of their user base is bots and they'll only charge them to advertise to real people.
I honestly don't even think advertisers give a shit anymore. If people keep buying what they're pushing, all they see is dollar signs. If anything, the whole "advertiser doesn't like this" thing is just some sort of scapegoat.
Like, look at YouTube - you're telling me that somehow the company pushing some products that nobody gives a fuck about is horribly offended because a guy in a video said "Shitfuck McPussyCock" three seconds in; but they have no issue with the hatred, misinformation spreading, and general stupidity of people like Tim Poole, Ben Shapiro, Crowder, and that other dipshit with the beard and glasses (whose name I have actually thankfully forgotten)?
The thing to understand about large organizations is that appearances matter a lot and the people working in them have to look busy. This is well known phenomenon among low level employees but it applies to managers and even executives too (who have to put on a show that they're increasing shareholder value and that their company is special somehow).
So, why do advertisers care if someone says "fuck" but not about someone whose spewing pseudointellectual misogynistic bullshit? Because there's someone whose job description is "brand value" and if they're not upset about something then they don't look busy. The amount of "fucks" per minute is a really simple metric that (now that speech recognition is as good as it is) is really easy to measure. In other words its an easy way to look busy.
Of course it doesn't hurt that the guy's boss is probably a conservative anyway, and so doesn't mind the misogyny so much, but looking busy is the main reason.
Zuckerborg is literally promoting bot "friends"
its not even about it, probably more data to tie to you and sell to data brokers, facebook feed most of the time wont even prioritize to show your friends posts instead will show posts from pages that paid Facebook to advertise, its literally no longer what it used to be for a few years already and probably why they were all in for having a separate messenger app for Facebook so those who find more convenient not to quit will just keep using it to maintain contact with people through it while keeping their accounts
I didn't have a Facebook account before. I sure as fuck am not getting one now.
I have an Instagram account where I just lurk, no posting, no following, no likes. At my last sign in there was some message about my account being restricted for supporting extremists or some bullshit and I would need to submit a photo of my ID.
I also just closed it directly. But I need to delete my Meta Accounts some day
Where is the #Fediverse #craigslist alternative? Lets get going, people!
I'll start us off.
One used Nike shoe - size 13 - $40
Oh nice, I've got half a tube of shoe glue. $20 obo. No low offers, I know what I've got.
$5 and can you deliver?
This person has used FaceBook Marketplace - truly going for the corner office here at LemMarket!!!
more leftist garbage
Lol, careful, this joke is dangerously subtle for lemmy
They had to shoehorn it in.
always trust your audience
Hey this reminds me ive got some still pretty nice nike workout shoes I never wear. Theyre not for sale though
You tease
The software exists, it's called Flohmarkt.
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Literally over ten years ago, they wanted a photo of my government ID.
Haven't had an account since
I sent in a fake one, they accepted it.
same happened with me then a few other friends which made it easier to convince them to leave Facebook
I read so many of the comments and concerns, and I don't even disagree with them!
Just want to add my two cents.
Lots of people are talking about how they resent that Marketplace has become the place to sell. I get that.
However, this is more of the same in an ongoing evolution of online ads & classifieds.
Originally eBay was King. Craigslist was kind of under the radar and not enough of a threat that they did anything about it.
Then all kinds of little online competitors to eBay started to pop up and they were becoming reasonably successful.
eBay then acquired PayPal so they could squash up startups. It worked. They no longer own PayPal but things change.
Kijiji popped up and was eating eBay's lunch on a local level. Instead of competing, eBay spun off local classifieds to another company which acquired Kijiji.
I don't even know all the back and forth wranglings, but it's all a giant multi-corporate game that's been played for 30 years.
Then all kinds of different "out of the box" storefronts started to appear.
Now Meta got in the game and they are keeping eBay and Kijiji "honest". They've gone ahead and integrated it with Messenger and other apps so you never have to leave their ecosystem.
It literally took 30 years, but I am finally content as both a buyer and a heavy seller, with all of the online options available. I no longer feel like they are trying to wrangle every penny out of me as of seller, and they let me voluntarily pay to promote my sales in MY terms.
That said, I'm not sure how I feel about needing so much information about people just to make an account.
On one hand (I'm very biased towards the seller's perspective) I can actually see the need to apply as much verification as possible for new accounts. It's been a severe deficiency in their product for years and years and years. And as a seller, I am exhausted with bots and fake accounts and people who want to hide in the shadows, there's no reason to do that when you're buying a vacuum off me and want to come to my home to pick it up.
On the other hand, I made my account years ago so I'm not subject to this requirement. But if I put myself in the shoes of somebody making a new account today. Holy fuck would I not be impressed with this.
I really don't know what the answer is. I would never upload ID or a video of my face to them. I don't know what's needed here.
As a buyer of random trash, I really don't want anyone to know more than they have to. The only identifying details about me should be "paid $13.65 for a set of glittery plastic tableware." In whatever ledger you keep for those sort of things.
I got a promotional text message from a store I bought a single repair component from once in a state I never visited. It made me irrationally upset. I would not accuse you of such, but every action to verify someone's "personhood" means that marketing types have that much more access to try to sell me junk.
I respect the security concern but none of what you are describing is how Facebook market works.
If you got a text message, it's because you gave them your number that's your fault. Nobody has the ability to contact you outside of the marketplace ecosystem or messenger unless you specifically allow it.
If you're getting promotional messages, it's because you opened a business chat with that organization.
I'm basically saying learn.
None of that has anything to do with not wanting to upload personal information to meta.
C'mon, with a bit of effort you could have made this one into 5 paragraphs each one sentence long too!
TLDR?
https://lemmy.world/comment/17294280
So full face capture how is this not a violation of privacy? You know they're keeping that shit.
Different angles makes me thinking they're using it for ai training
100% they are. Why wouldn't they?
It's also a very common age assurance tech since forgery of ids is trivial to do now.
They are keeping it to be able to sell it to other agencies, who will then use it to open your face-locks.
Privacy Policy doesn't matter when someone claims bankruptcy.
It is Facebook
Looks like we found a good use case for facial generative ai
I'm not sure there's any way you could make a computer work that non-technical people would question, at this point.
No. Common sense has been replaced by the constant normalization of tracking and personalized ads.
Yes. A government that's out to get you is pretty much outside Western living memory, and now people seem to think that their rights are a law of physics.
I wonder what the conversation about digital privacy is like in former East Germany.
This just isn't a problem for most people. They have different priorities or just don't bother.
Mostly the latter. Name a private thing, any private thing. most people will punch it into GoogleMetaX without skipping a beat.
"Oh no, now there's a video of my face somewhere"
I'm not trying to be hurtful towards you, but I guess I'm pushing back in a general sense and you're the comment I'm replying to.
At this point, it's 2025... Every single thing about you including 3D models of your face is in a computer somewhere.
Look at the Luigi situation. Police tipped accidentally that they have advanced AI they've been using for a decade that we didn't even know about.
I'm kind of saying guys... like yeah on paper not a good idea to upload your video... But when you critically examine it, what has harmed you? Nothing, your face is everywhere. If you have walked outside one time, your face is on 100 video cameras. And it's never being deleted from their server.
Except that's not what did it, and I suspect any such thing is shitty corporate bloatware. In the end, distinctive eyebrows and a good-old-fashioned snitch did him in. He wasn't anywhere close to the radar before that.
Privacy defeatism was already fully going in the days of MySpace. That should tell you a bit about how empirical it ever was.
The infuriating part is people willing to use Facebook at all.
And Facebook marketplace and buy nothing are helpful. We need to get people off that crappy platform.
Craigslist still exists, I use it fairly often.
I have a store in a small town that ONLY communicates though the book of faces. It is frustrating to say the least, but it seems like people on facebook assume that everyone is on facebook and the things on facebook are reflective of reality (they are not).
This clearly abilist against headless Americans
There are more of them than you think
At least 77 million at last count.
Ah, hell no.
Who is actually creating a legitimate Facebook account at this point?
I moderate a few groups on Facebook, and every account I see for new members that was created within the last few years is a spammer. The people who wanted Facebook accounts already have them. Very very few actual human beings are signing up for new legitimate accounts at this point.
Facebook should just close the new account option. They're working toward AIs talking to each other and won't need human interaction any more anyway.
I deleted my Facebook account in 2010 after my college English professor forced us to use it for an assignment. He thought he was hip; I thought it was disgusting. Anyway fast forward a dozen years and like OP says basically the only way to buy and sell used shit now is through FB marketplace. I was willing to create an account just for that, but when they wanted my phone number I said nope no way. This video selfie thing is so much worse.
i dint create one because of that too, when i used a some temp email, the account was autobanned for 6months. then i found a way to bypass thier login popups, because i just wanted to see some posts.
boomers, and right wingers. i used to follow somed asian yotubers who fled to facebook, because it was easier to control content, and criticism, since they cant do anything to subreddits, and yes they brigaded the subs about them to shut down any controversy about them.
They've been advertising it hard to the zoom zooms since they were born after the window where it was just assumed that everyone had Facebook
What’s next? Fingerprints? Criminal record? DNA? Retina scans? It’s like people are joining CIA and not a social media site
If Futurama is to be trusted, one of the upcoming technologies in biometric data will be “colonic maps.” No doubt, Facebook would anally probe us all if they could.
I've reported so many fake accounts and accounts promoting right wing violence or blatant racism and every single time they send a report back saying the account/comment doesn't violate any rules.
That's on you for using facebook to upload and store pictures. You learned an important lesson that day.
ofc not to train ai
There are no more excuses, people who say that these services are easier to use are stupid
Hey! No I'm doesn't! 😠
Pretty sure Instagram also requires something similar in some cases. I tried to make an account recently to see an artist's full postings and it eventually asked me to verify I am a human by submitting a selfie picture. Abso-fucking not. It did "promise" they would delete it within 30 days...
https://imginn.com/
Instagram is also owned by Meta... so I'm not sure why there's any surprise there.
Next up, WhatsApp will probably require a full contact sync or something lol.
Yeah instagram do that too get an account back after they lock it even though you have the password etc but haven't signed in for to long.
They then compare that to photos of you on your account.
My problem is I have 1 photo of me on the account from years ago and the rest are landscape stuff so despite having all the information I can't access my account
Just submit a tree
What would they even compare the picture to...
I am fairly certain it hasn't got anything to do with "confirming you're a human". and probably with getting more data into their pipeline for AI training...among other things that they do. like sell your shit to a 3rd party
It's going to require DNA samples in my lifetime.
Somehow I find it very disconcerting, that you didn't write "our" lifetime.
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Guess the silver lining of this particular instance of dystopian tech-bro fascist nightmare stuff is that it causes more friction, and less people to join up.
Absolute clown show.
Ease of use is a forgotten artform it seems
Stop using that shit, your life will be better for it.
Well, this is everyone else's reminder to download their pictures now then! Thank you for your sacrifice 🫡
I used a burner sim and a fake video. You could generate it with AI or even a good 3d model.
I was going to sign up a couple of years ago for the same reason - marketplace - but they wanted a picture selfie then and that was enough to stop me.
Let them continue filling the site with bots. Dont use that garbage.
The same thing happened to me recently. I used my friend's phone to play this video in front of the camera, and it worked.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-21/video-selfie-verification-process-for-account/104499702
I left FB before the pandemic and don't regret it. When I still had an account, I had to verify my account by sending them my DL. I did it but blanked out my address and DL #. That was invasive enough. This is just insane.
Oh no thanks I'm going to pass on that
Are there any fediversians out there familiar with friendica? From what I can tell, it looks like a FOSS equivalent to Facebook. I was never really into Facebook or Instagram, so on the surface it seems to tick the boxes, but I appreciate they have addiction tier levels of interaction with the majority of people around me, so differences will be glaring for hardcore users.
My partner is an artist, and she's been trialling pixelfed for me; all seems to be going smoothly, but the older generations are FB diehards, so if I have any chance of adoption, it has to be something closer to that experience.
I'm looking to potentially spin up an instance for friends and family to migrate to. They currently have the desire due to the stream of enshittification we're seeing; but people are fickle and I've no doubt that desire can be extinguished by the slightest inconvenience. so any insight on what's good and what's missing regarding friendica (or other FB FOSS alternatives), is definitely appreciated.
afaik Friendica is the closest to Facebook usage among Fediverse platforms, im not aware of new features on Facebook since I quit it a few years ago but for ordinary people i only think to be missing games i know some people used (do they still?) to play to get "achievements" which they could share they got it, i'd usually see it more often from farming or guitar hero-like games, other than that they have plenty of stuff that you won't find in other Fediverse platforms but its also not a platform where you'll find general instances with as many people as in Lemmy/Mastodon/Pixelfed general instances but since you are willing to host for yourself and your friends it might be worth it, you can even have your own RSS feeds within Friendica and browse posts from other platforms outside the Fediverse, you can check the features list on friendi.ca/about/features
The only reason I have a frednica is because that's where I chill and hang out with the Fediverse Chick.
Leaving in 2010 was a great choice. I feel like I stayed on way too long only getting rid of it in 2020.
Facebook: not then, not now, not ever.
eventually they will want a dna sample
Sir please drink a verification can.
https://www.reddit.com/r/4chan/comments/1ggg4u/please_drink_a_verification_can/
So you're forced to give them potential blackmail i?
Would signing up with a PC instead of the mobile app solve that? A lot of PC's don't have webcams.
This might help, I made my last account a few months back and only had to provide a selfie photo (which I got from here)
Lol genius!
Fuck that shit.
lol wot
Maybe call a friend for help? That's my strategy and I have an active account. I just didn't want to look at it
Yeah, that's a good idea. Thanks.
Instead of sacrificing your friend's face to Facebook, you can sacrifice an AI-generated face. I commented above:
I wish I didn't have to use Facebook.
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I am in entertainment and it's where most of my contacts are. I am stuck with it.
Glad I kept my last burner account
You know what's funny about that? Facebook banned me several months ago claiming a problem with community guidelines despite the fact that I was only using it to connect to an app that required it to save progress.
Leave it to Fuckerberg
The dickvid potential is there.
Huh. F u Facebook.
I gave up on Facebook when they banned my account for the second time after providing evidence that I exist in both cases.
Technically, my account is still "under review", for the past 8 years.
I used this name, Mystik Incarnate, because, believe it or not, there are more people who know me by this name, compared to how many know me by my legal name.
I remember that Facebook challenged my name back in the day, like 10+ years ago. I took a form of ID and made it say "Mystik Incarnate" as my name, sent that in, and they unblocked my account for a while. A few years later and they did it again. By then, I was already on the fence whether or not I wanted to maintain a Facebook account... But I submitted basically the same thing and..... Well... It's still "being reviewed".
I do have an account under my legal name, mainly as a collector of messages for people that know me professionally or something that are trying to reach out. I check it every few months at most; but that account has no friends, no connections, nothing. I only keep it so people can message me. I don't use their apps or anything, I only log in on the website and usually incognito so that they can't track me across the web.
Every time I see someone's logged in Facebook account, I'm disgusted by how cancerous it has become. Anyone who reaches out to me on that platform I usually try to have them connect with me by email, or some other chat program that's more trustworthy.
Fuck Meta.
Weird nowadays many people I know are using alias on FB without incident. It's a safety issue for women.
Yeah I am out too. Sellers won't trust a new account anyway. On top of that Facebook marketplace was a nightmare even back then when I was active. People not showing the right prices, people not telling you what they want for a product, products not being what they show etc. I am very happy without the product anyway
“Make me an offer” is the worst.
Especially when they put the price as free and then say make me an offer!
At least put $1 so I don't have to see your bullshit at all if I filter correctly.
Yeah. Because they already know what price they will accept or won't. So it would be faster if they just mentioned that price instead.
use AI
Is there a good 2nd hand market beside FB now? We are buying our first house and will be needing some stuff once we move in. My account is long gone and my wife's is deactivated, close to closing it out. We have some good antique and thrifts around us, but my SIL gets killer deals on FB market.
some areas have active nextdoor.com marketplaces, but you have to prove your residence by receiving a code in the mail.
Doesn't seem to be in my country yet, but apparently it's in a few other EU countries so there's hope yet!
In the meantime I log into Facebook when I need to buy used car parts. There's other sites but it's nowhere near as usable as just writing "hey someone wanna sell me a 3.0 tdi (BMK/ASB) turbo pls" into the Audi group on Facebook. Such is the life of driving shitboxes anyway.
or alternatively, if you explicitly want to buy something from woman: girlnextdoor.com
for us it's craigslist
Depending on where you live you always got something eg: craigslist or whatever.
At least they didn't ask you for butt sharpies.
yet
I used to do gig work online. Everything was fine for two years, then they suddenly required the same shit for identity verification, so I quit.
Are you sure about this?
This is a procedure they use when you get locked out of your account.
I wouldn't be surprised if they use it for creation in some cases, depending on locale, or if you seem "suspicious" to their metrics in some way, e.g. registering while on a VPN
I needed to make an account recently, if you make it via a proper computer you get this and it sends it as an "appeal".. Which means they werent clever enough to separate new account creation from actual appeals. So of course what happens is it goes to some call center in some poor part of the world where they're not smart enough to know the difference or dont care, they hit deny and you get perma banned.
This is not the same if you sign up via an app, which is amazingly stupid but whatever.
Ironically i learned about this by watching youtube videos for scammers on how to make fake facebook accounts.
Of course i immediately uninstalled the app, because i dont want that cancer on my phone.
Wow. And here I thought MS all-screenshotting garbage was the peak of fucking over. Guess I need a bigger basket of popcorn
Sadly it does seem to be very popular but I am sure there are some niche forums specific for certain items like tech related ones which also has a marketplace for tech products, audiophile ones for audio gear etc. I joined one to buy something and ended up being a part of the great community now so hopefully something works out for you as well.
According to my experience Facebook ads are now becoming scam more and more. Like they just use AI voice and animated videos for ads and customer buy it. That product is mostly trash not usable.
Sucks. Facebook is trash. All ads are scammer mostly and all comments anywhere are just bots. It is the worst marketing platform.
Oh HELL no
Youtube also does this
Yeah they can kiss my ass. Video selfie. Fuck that.
Google does similar, stating it’s for safety.
Horrible
Ran into this same exact problem. So frustrating.
This is not really the invasion of privacy it seems when you compare it to everything else facebook will do with your information.
That doesn't make this any better, just makes YOU feel better about it
I think it's a good way to remind you right up front when you sign up that this is what you're signing up for. Honestly if last week I had been asked to choose between a world in which facebook makes its invasiveness painfully clear at signup vs keeps it low-key, I would choose the former.
I feel bad about everything.
LMAO
Nextdoor is the place I buy / sell secondhand goods. I signed up years ago, but the way they verified you then was you gave an address and they mailed you a post card. It is still a hassle, but imo it keeps the bots out which is nice. A lot less scammers on there.
Cant seem to see this as a bad feature. Accounts on the internet are way too anonymous and bots are swarming every social media
In what way is anonymity bad on the internet?
I miss when it was the default position of everyone online.
Still though, with the whole damn world going online, in places where anonymity is never expected in the first place, I can see the benefit. I used Facebook marketplace once just to be ripped off.
My daughter uses an anonymous Facebook account with the name of a cartoon character, she’d just close the account if they pushed her though.
It pushes extremism and rudeness for example
Plenty of people do that with their personal information on full display.
And plenty of people commit murder without guns so they dont need to be banned?
We can circle back to this debate when anonymity is the weapon in a mass murder.
You mean like circling back to your argument when some people being antisocial by default means other factors causing it can be ignored.
When you're done with that strawman, can I borrow it to put in my field please?
Sorry to break this to you, but the people writing bots can also get over this barrier very easily - see that link to the faceswap in this thread? That makes it possible for every person with a bit of tech understanding or at least a bit of persistence to ignore this. it's not even a speed bump for people whose job (yes, job) it is to write bots.
This does nothing to make the bots go away, but it gives Meta a full facescan, which is the fucking last thing to hand over to anyone - a data breach at Meta would mean that everyone around you will get scammed by videocallers with your face; not even your bank manager would be able to detect that something is off if he knows you personally (a short phone call with you to get a voice snippet makes the illusion perfect!)
The political shenanigans in the US are also a reason to NOT give facescans out to anyone.
The solution to bots does not lie in giving up your anonymity. There are no shortcuts here that don't do more harm than good.
Dont get me wrong, Im not saying I would do a facescan for Facebook. I cant understand how anyone in the whole world would still consider using facebook at this point. All Im saying is anonimity is getting out of hand and the fascists are making very good use of it
anonymity is not the issue when you have people posting fascist shit using their real name without consequences.
Yes, in many cases anonymity is not the issue. Your point?