Legal Experts warn Trump may soon be facing “prison, not politics
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Literally the most hilarious thing I've read all week. Honestly I wonder if anyone who was involved in this article actually believes that.
It just reads like more placation of the angry masses. "no need to burn things down, we promise he will be gone soon, no protesting necessary either"
Yeah, I been hearing this for about 4 years now.
Myself falling for hope because Trump made me unemployed:
Myself flying over from Canada wondering what you guys are doing
Myself after being born into white trash in Texas, never having love for this country, having to stave off poverty for two decades during my lifetime, having taught myself code as my peers resigned themselves to manual labor, and having no options to emigrate out because I have no ties to any origin countries that make up my genetics.
I wish I could be a Canadian. I'd be friendly, helpful, and pay my taxes on time. I'm going to die impoverished in the "land of opportunity".
The ruling class benefiting from every aspect of all of this.
I think this thread proves that there needs to be a peanuts meme community
Quick, you need a mental health app and a prescription too. It's not normal to be overwhelmed by this, you're the only one.
I was did/heartened when I heard psychologists speaking out about how much more difficult their jobs have gotten since so many of the stresses people have been dealing with have moved to externalities rather than internalities. It is REALLY hard to help someone cope in the usual ways because the problems are real, we our lives and livelihoods are under existential threat, and we are relatively powerless in the face of it all. No amount of affirmations are going to make any of that better.
Ooh how many times have you heard that it's somehow your fault for not doing enough to get anyone else elected, your fault for not having a degree, your fault for not seeing this coming 10 years ago and making plans then, or your fault for being a dirty American who is American and therefore deserves all the bad things happening?
I've gotten all these, and more.
My personal favorite was being told in the same conversation by two different Canadians, that I should move to Canada, AND that Canada doesn't need some "backwards ass hillbilly trash who wants to fuck his guns as much as his sister" because I mentioned I have family, no college education, and firearms.
Personally I'd prefer to move to an EU country, but if the US ever really did want to invade Canada, I'd want to be there to help defend Canada. You know, with my guns. I've inherited quite a few, have training to use them, and am absolutely willing to train minorities on their use to defend against fascist racist phobic pieces of human refuse.
So basically for one reason or another, country on the planet seems to want someone like me.
Instead we get to sit here, in this shit hole country. Grasping at anything to try and help pull it back from the massive sinkhole it's slipping into. Hoping that enough people help us to make a difference.
I don't think there's a relevant peanuts panel for this...
Edit: this is not directed at Miles, but the situation
Yeah, I think that about sums it up.
If they come after me for opposing the regime. I’ll put down some firepower.
I'm surprised there isn't a Texas -> Alberta immigration pipeline. The province wants to be like Texas so much!
I'd move to Alberta. Could someone put in a good word for me?
Similar to the case where he was convicted of multiple felonies and given (checks notes) not even a slap on the wrist?
But it's on his permanent record! Surely that's punishment enough.
hE LeArNEd hIS LEsSoN 🤡
Ooookkkkk, Susan, let's get you back to bed!
If Trump faces any consequences during his term, I’ll eat my fucking hat.
I would exclude assassination from that bet if i were you.
I’m already disfigured from crossing my fingers too hard.
I wouldn't. The people who would actually do that are part of his cult.
Yes, and there’s already been a conservative shooter attempt at assassinating Trump. I wouldn’t count that possibility out.
The one who "clipped" his ear? That wasn't a real attempt.
What could possibly make you think aiming a gun at the sitting president and pulling the trigger doesn’t count as an assassination attempt? Or are you simply shrugging that off because it doesn’t fit your narrative?
He wasn't the sitting president when that happened, it was at a campaign stop
Ha right, he was a presidential candidate at the time. My point still stands of course.
It was a setup for him to get publicity. His "wound" was gone the next day, and there's no way the secret service would have let him get back up and stand there for his photo op. There's a bunch of other inconsistencies too.
That is conspiracy theory bullshit with no grounding in reality. Nice story, with zero supporting facts.
You think that kid died just to kill a firefighter and miss the president by a couple mm?
You just need one crazy guy off his meds. Or maybe some group of feds is done with the bullshit and decides to create some kinda plausibly deniable situation.
Executions don't give justice. The best we can hope for is Club Fed.
JR announced he has cancer. Only bad things happen to good people. I expect this to continue
Fucking DO IT ALREADY THEN
Do those "legal experts" have the ability to enforce the law?
I wish I could say this is a click bait title, but its more like the title was written based on the assumption no one will click to read the article. No where in there were there any legal experts(Lawyers, Judges or legal scholars). No where in there did anyone actually suggest he'd face any consequences for his actions. Total bs title intended to give a few people hope I guess. Not really sure what the thought process was. Probably wasn't one of those either.
I have hope 🥹
Eh.....maybe don't.
I've heard that before and won't get my hopes up.
He has enough money to Stall out a court until he's long dead...
Can I downvote this any harder? We've been hearing "prison time" for years, just dangling a carrot. I'm not even going to bother reading this.
Not gonna read this, if Trump was ever going to face consequences, it would have happened by now. The rapist is gonna die peacefully in his sleep eventually. There is no god.
I won't hold my breath..
Trust me bro, just one more lawsuit and the Nazis are gone.
Ya bro trust me this lawsuit will totally get him, promise
Everyone who still reads articles that say 'blah blah looking at, blah blah might be" and gets hopeful are morons. He will keep getting away with whatever he wants. These articles have been happening for 10 years now and nothing EVER HAPPENS.
the only way trump will ever see justice is if he gets Luigied.
No. Too humane.
The only way that remotely happens is if the dems take congress in 2026 and impeach and remove him (they'd probably have to get vance too). Which seems highly unlikely and has a high risk of another jan 6 like event.
I'd like to believe it, really, but there is no way that he ever sees justice for his crimes. He'll die of a cheeseburger-related heart attack before that happens.
I find it odd that anyone thinks there's going to be (fair) elections. The Democrats (or any party other than MAGA Republicans) are never going to be in power again, ever.
Too any rich and powerful people will end up in prison if that happened, and right now they're the ones writing (and rewriting) the rules and breaking the things they can't control.
It's going on in front of everyone's eyes and the consequences are just being ignored by most. It's mindboggling.
I know a lot of people have been saying this, but we’ve seen some nice surprise Democrat election victories lately, mostly on smaller local elections for State judges/senators. There was also the recent attempt to overturn Justine Riggs election, which saw huge public outcry and failed.
It is reason to be optimistic, and the GOP has certainly had awareness of the importance of all those small local seats for a long time. So even if we presume they have some horrible, secret, nefarious way of manipulating results, I don’t think they can do that on enormous scales, or for every election.
Be cautious, but you don’t have to be pessimistic.
I would be fucking SHOOK if the Dems actually did that in '26 instead of settling for wheeling Schumer out to waggle his finger at Trump. I honestly think the only reason they're attempting impeachment now is that they know it has virtually zero chance to go anywhere, so it's just politically useful theater.
I doubt Jan 6 would be allowed to happen again. 1. The police and military would be ready and waiting. 2. The rest of us will be ready and waiting.
I hope you'd be right in that case. If an impeachment of Trump got to a senate vote that was expected to pass (removing him from office), I just don't see him going quietly. Especially considering he would still be in control of the military and well loved by the cops.
I doubt that would come to pass though. The likelihood of the democrats getting enough votes to impeach and remove in 2026 seems far fetched. Especially since the current republican controlled congress is actively trying to pass voter suppression laws. Not to mention democratic voters don't turn out for midterms like they do for presidential elections. Maybe that changes, but from here it seems improbable.
Loved by cops, maybe, in places that aren't major non-FL/TX cities. In control of the military, not so much. The general sentiment of most service members I come across is "our oath says 'foreign AND DOMESTIC' and requires I follow lawful orders." They recognize that ordering the military to suppress protests with force or not upholding an impeachment order by Congress is not lawful. Also, once the vote is in, if he is impeached in the Senate he is no longer president and thus no order he gives is lawful, no matter what it is.
Lol
Lmao
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
There was a moment when Trump wrote that Walmart must "eat tariffs" that I thought "oh we're getting close now. Of course I don't want the actual reign of terror that followed the French revolution, but I also wouldn't feel bad if a few examples were made.
Sensational clickbait headline,.stop posting nonsense
Stfu click bait. Why would he suddenly start experiencing consequences?
If that dude faced consequences I will eat my hat
Talk is cheap.
Especially Political talk.
K. Let me know when it happens. I'll believe it then. I'll just keep hoping until then.
by whose hand, exactly
Anyone that actually tries to sentence him will end up on an ice plane to El Salvador.
Sounds good. But until he is marched into prison in a orange jumpsuit I’m not celebrating.
In and ideal world, sure.
But this article and the people who published it are deeply unserious.
He's been facing prison for years already, yet here we are
Some people commit a felony and get punished for four years or more, Trump commits 34 felonies and we get punished for four years (or more)
I'll say what I've been saying for 9 years: I'll believe it when I see it.
I seriously, seriously doubt it. As much as the insiders all hate trump with an absolute vengeance, he is too goddamn useful for them to want to get rid of him.
Trump is a symptom of a much, much larger systemic issue that has been on slow burn for decades, but the thing that Trump does that no one else can do is have such a massive fanatical fanbase. They do not have any other person who can rile people up while also being an absolute moron who insults them at every turn and treats them worse than whatever shit he has them lick off his shoes.
If the bullet fired at him last year had hit him between the eyes and killed him before he hit the ground, it would not solve the problem, but it would have abso-fucking-lutely had a massive effect on everything. It would have hindered their ability to go forward with a lot of shit since his fanbase would have been heavily divided. Trump's attribute is that he is the glue that keeps their movement together, but not the actual mover of that movement. Trump doesn't have beliefs. He does not give a fuck about anything other than himself. He does not care about his children, grandchildren, wife, ex-wives/mistresses, his country, his friends (whom he does not have). He does not care at all about anything other than self-aggrandizement, enriching himself, and staying out of prison/legal punishment for his countless misdeeds.
Nothing involving trump's face is uplifting
Any day now....
Can we please keep depressing American politics out of "uplifting news"? I'm not subscribed to this community to see "Hitler definitely getting in biiiiig trouble" for the twenty seventh time.
What kind of AI generated blog spam website is this, why is a US website named Sarkari Form
Right, bcz this guy has faced so many consequences already...I'll believe it when I see it.
Bit hard to be a legal expert from a foreign prison.
:(
A mountain of felonies, millions of civil rights violations, violent insurrection, and not only is he not currently in prison for his crimes…
He may be doing illegal shit that people want to put a stop to, but half the government backs him completely, and blindly. And the other half is a bunch of spineless pussies who care more about their donors and their own optics than bettering the country. Nobody is gonna do anything about it
LOL
I've been hearing that since Trump 1.
Any day now.
As I said in the other post ping me if this happens.
Absolute hopium.
He is literally a criminal already, if he's not in jail now he will never be unless democrats act or he is shunned from republican party
Trump will die a free man, sadly. The justice system has already made up it's mind and nothing he does will ever be punished, no matter what.
Now, how he dies is still up in the air. I think the odds are already not in his favor to have a peaceful death in his sleep. The best he can hope for is a disease taking him out at this point.
Should have gone to jail a long ass time ago...
The Holocaust was legal
I'm on this poll for positive news. All I see is this political shit. No matter right or left or communists - I'm sick of all of it.
Yeah I agree 100% with this sentiment. Every so often - say, every 20 posts or so - there's something that's actually uplifting. But most of it is just political wank, as you say. Or one was 'Israel finally allows some food into Gaza' which tbqh I don't find uplifting so much as absolutely sickening because it reminds me of how absolutely awful the context for it is.
Still, not gonna unsub because Lemmy is too small for me to be that picky 😅
Honestly, i get your point. But it is really easy to be the change you want to see and make a commubuty that does not allow polulitics and just crosspost what you think fits. People will likely enjoy that kind of content. You have one subscriber in me already if you make it.
Ufghh I know but omg I'm not one of nature's posters. I was on Reddit for like 5 years before I even made my first comment. I dunno if I have it in me. That's probably one of the reasons I'm so loath to complain about content - like, what right have I?
I strongly encourage you to review that stance. You're doing good and people grow. Also, crossposting isnt that hard. At least on voyager you press crosspost, press autofill for the title and decide which community to post in, done. Other apps and webapps should be similar. At least thats what I hope. :)
Yeah, that's the reason why I'm not unsubing too. This platform is too small for being picky.
maybe you stop predicting and actually start doing instead of getting my hopes up all the time legal experts.
Seriously, I'd bet for a heart attack to get rid of him sooner.
He figured out he can just pardon himself. He doesn't care how corrupt and amoral this makes him look. Shame is a distant, foreign concept to him.
Can't pardon yourself from a bullet...
And then we get Vance.
Guns can be reloaded.
I like the way you think.
Using Trump logic, the next president could still deport him to a foreign prison. If the supreme Court says, "You can't do that.", the president can say there's nothing they can do to get him back now.
Why are you assuming that there will be a next president while he's still alive (not a call to violence)
BS
That's for a population with balls.
Not the neutered US.
My eyes see this as an ai generated slop, am I wrong?
Idk I just googled guillotine and took a screenshot of a guillotine image
Which "legal experts" are claiming Trump could be facing prison? If they actually have JDs, they should be disbarred for incompetence.
SCOTUS has already ruled on this; the president has very, very broad immunity from any criminal prosecution. The case was dropped in Florida because his stealing highly classified documents was an "official action"; if that can be handwaved away, then so can defrauding the country with a shitcoin pump-and-dump.
I read the article and that's what I was trying to figure out. What "legal experts" is the title referring to, because they aren't mentioned in the body of the article
If you would please consult the graphs...
Once he's out of politics, he is still on the hook for the Insurrection and the stolen documents. Those cases weren't thrown out, they just went dormant. They can be revived.
Also, he has immunity for "Official" presidential duties. For example, he can't be charged with murder because he greenlit a drone strike on a terrorist camp that also killed civilians. That would be considered within his official duties.
But he can't use his office to solicit bribes, perpetrate frauds, commit election fraud, etc. Those aren't part of his official duties, those are crimes, and he doesn't have immunity to commit crimes.
Sadly, he apparently does
There's a difference between immunity, and just not getting charged and prosecuted. Just because they declined to charge him, doesn't mean it's legal, or that he has immunity.
Wait, didn't he accept a 400 million dollar airplane from a foreign king? I'm no american but I'd imagine that that is kind of a crime when it's the president doing it? I heard of raised eyebrows, nothing about criminal charges.
I mean even if he would not keep the plane (as if) and even if the plane wasn't "prepped" by the gifters before, and even if it wasn't some unusable piece of junk they've tried to get rid of for years... it's still way too much of a gift to present to a president if it's not abundantly clear it's a gift to the people..... and I have heard no such thing.
It's standard practice for US presidents to accept bribes from middle eastern dictatorship, particularly Israel and Saudi Arabia. Nobody in power is going to risk setting a precedent that's is illegal.
The only real chance is with state charges. POTUS cannot pardon state or civil offenses.
Leticia James has been investigating the allegations of market manipulation, but that’s the only potential state case of which I’m aware.
Yeah, but Florida won't extradite him, think they even passed a law back during the previous tax fraud case about it.
Good point. So the only real chance would be a state case brought up in Florida or DC. Very slim.
Wow, what a "cool" "article"
But what's up with open quotation without the closing one? I clicked the title to see if there was more to it, but it's the same. Like wtf.
Those walls have been closing in on Trump for 8 years now.
Ftfy
FTFY
Before it wasn't so much national security stuff, more evil rich guy stuff they always get away with.
Fair, but he has been in and out of legal trouble for a very long time now- my reply was mostly just tongue-in-cheek.
Oh yeah, pretty much constantly his whole life. I've never seen anyone who is able to game the US system as well as him. It's his only strength.
The only solution is a French style revolution
Oh, just stop already. It’s not happening. Ever!
I'll believe it when I see it.
Those legal experts don’t live on this planet
If his dictatorial aspirations are unsuccessful he's 100% going to prison.
Briefly. You've seen his unhealthy fascination with what cookie monster would call "some-time food, not all-the-time food", right? (When Cookie monster knows more about healthy choices than your president, it's a sign)
That's what I heard after his first term.
And during the Bush presidency for that matter
After his first term he was a 34 count convicted felon.
And yes. Bush should be hanged. Anyone who has presided over US mideast policy in the last 25 years should be hanged. And yes that includes Obama and Clinton.
Enough war crimes between them to make a Canadian blush.
The crimes he's convicted for are absolutist trivial compared to the crimes that US presidents and high level politicians (including Trump himself) commit on the regular. If he was actually going to face serious consequences for them, he wouldn't have been convicted.
Absolutely. But unfortunately they weren't, which is why I find the last decade of predictions about Trump going to jail so unconvincing.
I subscribed to uplifting news to escape this idiot. Can’t go anywhere without seeing that stupid orange face.
Yeah sure. Been hearing it for the last decade.
The legal experts are usually wrong. I'm interested to hear what the legal amateurs have to say.
Haven't we been seeing these headlines for the best part of a decade now?
Is this an AI generated article? Never heard of this website before
That carrot on a stick just keeps going...and going...and going...
I will simply reuse my statement from the last time any sort of "consequences" were in the news:
If there's one thing that the last 4 years proved its that the systems we have in place to check abuses of power are woefully slow to respond or to change. The only justice he might ever face is the Mangione variety.
Let’s hope he faces more than prison.
How much copium can fit in a democrats ass?
Don't threaten me with a good time.
Promise?
Lol. Surely THIS time...
white rich and powerful.
I think they are immune to consequences.
Of those three, only “white” is one that can’t change in an instant.
And Trump seems to want to cover that one up.
tbf, he's a person of colour, 🟧
At least Nixon lost the position back then. Things have really gone downhill.
shouldn't be have gone to jail?
Obviously thats bullshit but elect me president and I will absolutely rid this country of Nazis and christofascists and imprison the fuck out of anyone who accepts ANY donations or gifts of ANY kind
Prosecute his sycophants in power who can protect him first...
Oh wait the ones who can are the sycophants
None of them will go to jail.
Make it poison and you have a deal