Elon Musk says it's ‘outrageous’ to ‘claim that I’m a Nazi’
Summary
Elon Musk rejected accusations of Nazi sympathies in a Fox News interview, calling it “outrageous” and blaming media propaganda.
Critics point to his straight-arm salute at Trump’s rally, endorsement of a German far-right party, and reinstating white supremacist accounts on X.
His cuts to federal agencies under DOGE have sparked protests and vandalism, including nicknaming Teslas “swasticars.”
Musk claims he's targeted for character assassination and receives daily death threats. He and Lara Trump compared the attacks to those against Donald Trump, accusing mainstream media of spreading lies.
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I mean that's certainly outrageous
But it also certainly tells me he's a nazi
He never apologized for this or the confusion
He’s mad, because he’s not getting credit for being worse than the Nazis
Not only did he not apologize, he doubled down with a string of extremely bad Nazi puns.
IIRC, even the ADL criticized it, which is hilarious, because it was RIGHT after they burned a ton of what credibility they had left to defend him.
They, that is the tesla salute. When you see someone with a new tesla you ask if you are doing it right.
Absolutely he is a nazi
https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/fb0aab42-450c-4b89-85b0-592ea842b13e.gif
Autoparts
He's a Nazi from Nazi family, fuck him
He's just a Nazi boy from a Nazi family
Spare us a trial from this monstrosity
Sleazy Musk, sleazy DOGE, will he let X go?
The SMELL, bra, NO he will not let it go!
He will sieg heil, tho!
Ignoring the fact that he did what was probably the most vigorous Nazi salute in existence...
It's not just not outrageous to call him a Nazi, it's a perfectly normal and reasonable thing to conclude especially when you consider his other behaviour and the kinds of things he supports
Supporting the AfD party, an openly neo-nazi party, and appearing in their events, days after the "roman salute" removed any kind of ambiguity that could exist. He's a nazi, period. And the only good nazis are dead nazis.
The Roman salute excuse that many of his supporters promoted irks me because of how dishonest it is from the get go. There's not a single Roman work of art that depicts the salute and it actually originated fairly recently under Mussolini's National Fascist Party.
Additionally, the Nazis on 4chan et. al. had no problem recognizing the symbol for what it was. It was the pearl-clutching lib enablers who had trouble recognizing it
This post does not mean "voting is useless", tankies fuck off
It wasn't, a few years before Mussolini came to power a film came out depicting the Roman Empire, nothing political, but it was known to have inspired Mussolini's character and public image, and was the first instance of what was known to be the "Roman salute" from which Mussolini borrowed as he was so inspired by the film, it was never historically used by Romans. Ordinary things made an amazing doc on Mussolini and his rise to power. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xhwx8z8mJc
Let's look on the bright side. He is still reluctant to publicly acknowledge it, which means that even he knows it is a shameful thing to be. I would be more afraid if he said "Hell yeah, I am, what are you gonna do about it? Do you own a President like I do?"
Don't give him ideas
I mean I guess this might be conspiracy territory (although at this point I feel he's pretty much completely admitted as much through his whole "I am become meme" cringe persona) but I feel like it's pretty clear he knew exactly what he was doing at the inauguration and just did it as a "lol watch what edgy thing I'm gonna do... and they won't do a thing about it" and he was 8 billion percent right. Nobody did a damn thing.
Don’t say that on Lemmy. You’ll get a bunch of defensive milquetoast liberals demanding to hear know what YOU’VE done before you’re allowed to speak on the issue.
Seigheiling nazi piece of shit
If it walks like a Nazi, and salutes like a Nazi, then it's a fucking Nazi.
Like he can do more than 3 steps of Goose Step!
But he does talk like a nazi, except for replacing the "lazy jews/communists" with migrants/poors/democrats
For someone claiming to not be a Nazi he sure does Nazi things.
He even publicly called the AFD "centrist"
If you genocide enough people I'm sure you're views will be more centered amongst the remaining people.
Just gotta keep genociding until you get there.
Elon is a Cowardly Nazi Billionaire, which is somehow astronomically more pathetic than being just a Nazi, which is already one of the most pathetic things you can be...
If not Nazi, why Sieg Heil-shaped? 🙄
On a completely unrelated topic, just look at Hitler sending his heart out to his people, how heartwarming.
damn, even the timing is accurate... it is like he has been practising since young.
I would like his heart to be cold and stilled.
No, no, he's not a Nazi because he's not from the Champagne wine region in France. He's a Sparkling Authoritarian.
It's called a nazi salute. Don't spread doubt on what it was. He did it twice in close succession. The only other reason for holding your arm up like that is when you explain how high Blondie, Hitler's dog, could jump.
'Nazi' isn't a preferable pronounce, it's what you're called when you act like a nazi, talk like a nazi and salute like a fucking nazi.
Elon Musk's grandfather was critical of the Nazis for not being anti-semitic enough.
How is that even possible? I mean Nazis have got to be at the tippy top of the Jew-hating hierarchy, right?
Just because you're the best at something doesn't mean you should stop trying to improve.
he probably sees them sending them to concentration camp as not good enough, probably want immediate executions.
We didn't know about Auschwitz until we liberated it and he was critical of them in the 30s.
It's a good example of how right pull happens. Until you're exterminating people, fascists won't be happy and until then centrists won't care.
Looks like a duck, acts like a duck, quacks like a duck, even rapes like a duck. Why is everyone calling me a duck?
Bro literally intentionally does a Nazi salute on TV and then whines when people say he's a Nazi...
That's because he doesn't understand consequences
He's starting to experience them at least.
No because in his deluded mind he believes he's the target of harassment.
Unfortunately I don't think a lot of people in my country do...
Nazi works, but if he'd prefer something else, "technofascist" and "neo-feudalist" are both arguably even more accurate.
Or we could go a different way - "psychopathic douchebag" has a nice ring to it, or maybe "delusional fuckhead."
He behaves like a Nazi so he's a Nazi. And clearly calling him that is getting under his skin, so it's working. I don't think using a different word will have the same effect. Heck, he might even latch onto neo-feudalist thinking it's cool or something.
Yeah, Nazi is too 1930's. Technofascist, that's what Elon Musk is.
interesting note: a flavor of techno fascism actually started in the 30s, it was called Technocracy, Inc.
here's an article explaining how Musk, Thiel, and Andreessen (and other tech billionaires) have adopted a similar philosophy with the "Charter Cities" ancap utopianism they're working to replace democracy with.
A 1930s movement wanted to merge the US, Canada and Greenland. Here’s why it has modern resonances
Huh, weird. From that article (I didn't read the first link) it seems like that old movement wanted a techno-communism of sorts. No money, no markets, goods distributed according to need, etc. It does point out that the current administration wants to keep political control, unlike the old Technocracy, inc.
And really, I don't see our current billionaires wanting any sort of wealth redistribution. They like it just like it is. Really interesting that a hundred year old idea is sort of resurfacing though.
That's exactly what a Nazi would say
Calling the press propaganda was.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lying_press
Yeah well that's just from Wikipedia which is a lefty non source that anyone can edit!
-Republicans probably
Probably?
https://www.conservapedia.com/Examples_of_Bias_in_Wikipedia
And this:
https://www.theverge.com/news/656720/ed-martin-dc-attorney-wikipedia-nonprofit-threat
Look guys, just because he bought Twitter and reinstated all the Nazi accounts, and thinks and says Nazi things, and and performed an obvious Nazi salute not once, but twice in a live broadcast to millions of homes, that doesn't mean he's a Nazi!
Next thing you will say that this guy is a Nazi;
https://youtu.be/zvgZtdmyKlI
(under 2 minutes, English subtitles available)
Well elon a start would be saying on live tv
"I am not a nazi. I detest everything nazis stand for. White supremacy is bad"
That would be a start
A start would have been not throwing a nazi salute.
twice in a row.
But like that's really hard.
Seem to remember him character assassinating a dude who helped save some Thai children a decade or so ago, except that was false and him acting real Nazi makes me think he prolly a real Nazi.
Also remember, every accusation from these people is an admission.
In case anyone has forgotten, the specific character assassination was: "Elon Musk calls British diver in Thai cave rescue 'pedo' in baseless attack" (Guardian Website).
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
Which rich? Because I only hear about some of them.
Let's start with the ones you always hear about then see if the others fall in line.
Elon and Trump, but i guess that isn't really fair because they are the only thing discussed on lemmy anyway.
Bezos as well
I mean, they helpfully provide ranking lists. Start at #1 and work your way down
It is outrageously true he is a Nazi, to which he acknowledged with a nazi salute.
what.. the.. he acknowledged the first nazi with the 2nd one... that is outrageous!!
Don't want to be accused of being a Nazi, then don't fucking act like one you stupid cunt.
If you're looking for sympathy you can look elsewhere.
Rising Conservative Star Just Guy Wearing Nazi Armband And Crying
Well, have you tried not acting like one?
He thought it was opposites day
Opposites year.
Well that would involve empathy, and as you know, it is a flaw and a weakness...
God I fucking hate Elon.
He has not.
He's had ample time to apologize, still hasn't.
Everyone saw his Hitler salute.
Many people read his leaked 4Chan comments saying how great hitler was.
Fuck him and his Nazi ass car company.
Whoody wat now??? I feel like this needs to be more publicized, like posted everywhere right alongside his little saluting stunt.
There's absolutely nothing actually proving it's him. It's as provably him, as I am Ryan Reynolds. Making Deadpool 3 was pretty amazing though!
That makes sense. I'm aware of 4chan's anonymity system, but thought it might have to do with that massive user data leak that brought the site down, and thought he might have made an actual username lol.
If it was him, I wouldn't put it past him to reuse emails for sockpuppets or other identities.
Maybe a Twitter leak one day will connect the dots if it really is him.
His 2 back to back hitler salutes.
Just have the balls to admit it you bloated sack of shit.
Guys, he’s absolutely right, and absolutely worse - Nazis have ideals (however flawed and monstrous) and this POS has none.
He’s an opportunist psychopath with 0 qualms about throwing a Nazi salute if it gets him what he wants. He’s a Nazi sympathizing parasite who’ll fake anything for likes, and the only thing he deserves is to serve as a ridiculed, timeless reminder for future generations the dangers of mindless celebrity worship and billionaires.
I think that he really does have actual nazi ideals and that his apparent lack of ideals is the smokescreen.
Could be, but I personally don’t care to invest any effort in the distinction - if you’re ok cloaking yourself in Nazi garb, you’re a Nazi, full stop.
And Nazi lives don’t matter.
He’s also got ideas, mainly the need to breed more men with his genius DNA. /s
Only character?
How can one's character even be assassinated after one has murdered it themselves live in front of billions?
Shouldn't have made that salute then, nor throw your support and your weird fans behind the AfD and Tommy Robinson.
Or keep suspiciously quiet when asked about the Nazi salute. I still have yet to hear him denounce the Nazis.
He's one of them, why would he denounce them?
I read the article, looking for Musk to explain more and all I got is that he can't be a Nazi because he has never personally killed anyone.
No, seriously, that's the clever defense of Mr. Geniusman.
And even that falls short on many deaths his chainsaw government cuts will result in.
Yep. Also, going by that measure, Hitler was a vegetarian and lover of animals who never personally killed anyone
Hitler was an infantryman in WW1, though he was a messenger his regiment saw heavy combat and he won 2 iron crosses. He almost certainly killed people.
Still apparently no recorded kills, even if it's not something he would have had interest in hiding
Not to mention his specific interventions in designs that lead to various fatalities. (Why the cybertruck/wankpanzer is a complete death trap, despite being designed by some likely talented engineers.)
Already bullshit.
If Tesla's robot taxis ever make it to market, you'd Sieg heil a cab for a special discount.
No no you're throwing your heart out to it! /s
Don't you mean "making a heartfelt autistic gesture" to it
tesslars.
Consequences for being a Nazi piece of shit suck don't they Elon.
I’m baffled he doesn’t understand that everyone thinks he’s a nazi. He’s saying and doing nazi shit all the time, when called out for it, he DOESN’T deny it, he says the others are stupid for saying he is. He doesn’t apologize or anything! He doubles down and claims it’s the “left”? If there’s a Tesla driver who deserves to be locked inside a burning car, it’s this POS.
He knows perfectly well why everyone can see that he is a nazi.
The denials and fake butthurt are just theatre.
Lol, you think he trusts those death traps to carry him anywhere?
His have special firmware
That is not a joke.
It's because you did the nazi salute. Do you remember that you did the nazi salute when the faschist government took over?
Nhaaa.... Just because you do the nazi salute position yourself in a place of authority inside our current fascist government and support it's politics and agendas even make Buddy buddy with its leader doesn't necessarily make you a fascist yourself... Right?
Not necessarily, maybe he is trying to hint that he is a kind of mole inside man that wants to secretly save some of the immigrants and go down in history as a hero? Sigh.. But then why the chainsaw... Unless? Yeah. That's my new cope
Elon's list?
Ewww sounds gross when you say it like that.
I don't think there's a clean way of saying that name much like several other names that was killed by a guy that was fascist.
Well to help convince us you could denounce all Nazis and racial hatred, especially on your social platform.
We’re still waiting.
That's the most telling bit about his state of mind that day.
If you did a gesture on national TV that lots of people misinterpret as a nazi salute, and you didn't mean to do a nazi salute, what would you do? What would any person with a public platform in that situation immediately do?
What’s really outrageous is that he’s a free man, instead of rotting in some cell for the rest of his life like the Nazi sympathizing psychopath waste of oxygen he is.
It’s outrageous for him to claim it’s outrageous for us to properly identify him as Nazi, his being Nazi and all.
Does this dingus realize world leaders get daily threats? He wants to play president, this is all part of it
he dint like it when everyone was calling him president MUSK in januarary
Typically it's this kind of thing where you may have to scrub the disingenuous surface of plausible deniability a little to reveal the rottenness underneath as the fascists try to hide, reorganize, strategize, obfuscate, manipulate, infiltrate and ultimately influence under the guise of some common issue they can blame on their targets, or a made-up issue they can redirect people's frustrations towards, before they amass enough resources to where they can really get to work.
But some of them get too eager and jump the gun. The fascist party of Sweden, the Sweden Democrats, has had multiple instances of overtly rightwing extremist, racist, fascist Nazi shit unearthed by media, at which point leadership has felt the need to boot those members for the sake of current Overton window optics.
Musk is definitely one of those kinds of Nazis, a stupid one. He just went out there and performed a Nazi salute on live international TV in 4K. He ostensibly reckons he's rich enough and the Overton window is pushed far enough to where he can get away with it.
But the number in your bank account is not the only number that can affect events. Power in numbers is what us in the 99% have, and should utilize. I love seeing the solidarity against Tesla resulting in notable hardships for the business. And if all else fails, Luigi only needs one well-timed shell to win.
We'll never rest again, until every Nazi dies.
Sieg Heiling Space Karen Elon Musk, to be certain, is a Nazi.
It would appear her snowflake feelings are hurt, because we're holding her accountable for her Sieg Heil salutes.
But she brought that on to herself.
If someone destroys your reputation with lies, that is character assassination.
If your reputation is destroyed by people stating facts, you're just getting your comeuppance.
No they are absolutely not the same thing. Nazis were extreme right wing, authoritarian, Catholic, antisemitic, white supremacist, bigoted, anti intellectual and education, violent, ignorant fascists. Maga are extreme right wing, authoritarian, evangelical, antisemitic, white supremacist, bigoted, anti intellectual and education, violent, ignorant fascists.
Edit: also the Twitter guy literally stated in public that empathy is a weakness instead of the foundation of morality. When an American psychiatrist Gustave Gilbert interviewed high ranking Nazis at Nuremberg he had this to say:
"I told you once that I was searching for the nature of evil. I think I've come close to defining it: a lack of empathy. It's the one characteristic that connects all the defendants. A genuine incapacity to feel with their fellow man. Evil, I think, is the absence of empathy."
Not only is he a Nazi he’s also a fat retard
Hey, HEY, that's not fair! He's not a naz...{checks his behaviour}
I see. Ok, I mean he's not fa...{checks pictures}
Riiiight. Wel, he's not a retar...{checks behaviour again}
No, you're correct. Carry on.
I see you share sime of his eugenics ideas though.
It's outrageous to claim he isn't a nazi
shut the fuck up, you nazi piece of shit
Can't wait for the day that nazi dies
Condemn white supremacy then
i hope he follows his nazi leader
that would be mind blowing
I'd be so happy if he pulled a Lowtax
Lowtax?
Yeah from SomethingAwful
https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/16j3xh6/whats_the_deal_with_everyone_comparing_elon_musk/
History books will show he said this after the multiple seig heils on stage and telling the AfD to no longer be ashamed of Germany's past.
It’s 100% okay to kill a real Nazi. Moderate that if you are a Nazi loving fuck.
"How dare you say I'm a Nazi" ... but has never said he wasnt.
Nazi says what?
It's because he prefers NaXi
Well to be fair, he's certainly obNaXious
I spit out my drink
I have been searching for weeks for the right name.
Here it is:
Naxis!
Thank you friend!!!!!
I came up with it on the fly, but I'm sure someone on the Internet beat me to it. It's been too long for that to have been an original thought.
It’s good I’m replacing magazi with naxi moving forward
Play Nazi games win Nazi prizes.
Mf's be like "this sandwich sucks'.
Bro you did the salute
It's even more outrageous that we have Nazis in government.
I will stop calling him a Nazi the moment he takes his ass to Mars and stays there forever.
He doesn’t want to go to Mars himself. He wants to get all the undesirables to go there.
Then he'd just be a Martian nazi.
Shut up nazi
If he cheers on the neo Nazis, salutes like a Nazi, and tries to set up a government program to start gathering information about everyone (like Nazis did), he must be a duck!
Hear me out, he is preparing ground for media reform.
Bro did a nazi salute on stage twice. Wtf did he expect?
...without specifying in which sense exactly, like, he is not precisely allegiant to Adolf
Its gonna be a maze.
Wait Joshua was racist??!?
That came out of nowhere...
Did it?
He's right. It is. It is outrageous to say the obvious truth about billionaires and corporations. Has been for many years now. A lot of people went bankrupt due to fines or to jail for precisely this.
He's right, he doesn't belong to the Nazi party. He sure is a white nationalist though, with some very authoritarian views on what a country should be.
Yes Elon! My heart goes out to you...
/s to make sure... I am mocking this imbecile and his statement.
Two enthusiastic salutes says you a Nazi fuck boy Melon.
Where have I seen this lower face before? Ughhh... I can't quite put my finger on it.
Sometimes when 2000 AD's fascist satire character Judge Dredd was drawn by certain artists, his lower face was a fucked up lumpy mess.
I just looked up pictures of that, and boyyyy that's awful.. just like, decades of the same locked scowl through burgers and burgers and more burgers.
However, I never read that, so that can't be it....
Maybe like ... A California Rasin? Or like an old band teacher of mine or something as he furiously scowled upon us kids for trying to have a childhood and play music instead of listening to him brag about the future of the marching band.
Or something out of a body horror movie.
That band teacher does not sound like a fun time.
He prefers facist.
Should a stuck that arm up your fat orange bfs ass then
HAHAHHAHAHAHA
If you don't want us to think your a nazi then stop doing nazi shit infront of literally the world press
It's outrageous to suggest that him being a nazi is merely "a claim".
EM: I prefer the title Captain of Industry