Bill Gates Bought His Daughter A $16 Million Horse Farm As A Graduation Gift — But Ex-Wife Melinda Says The Kids Were Raised Very 'Middle Class'
If your dad is Bill Gates, you're probably not getting a Starbucks gift card for graduating college.
In 2018, Jennifer Gates walked off the Stanford stage and onto a 124-acre, $15.82 million horse farm in North Salem, New York. According to Architectural Digest, the lavish estate was a graduation gift from her billionaire parents—and came complete with rolling pastures, three parcels of land, and proximity to New York City for her future studies.
But in case that sounds too much like the plot of "Succession: Equestrian Edition," Melinda Gates would like to remind everyone: their kids were absolutely raised "middle class."
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Rich people always, without exception, fail to recognize their own disconnections from reality.
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These motherfuckers clearly need to be paying more taxes.
Something Bill Gates actually agrees with. He's one of the super rich who has been outspoken about the rich needing to pay more taxes.
It's always interesting to me how people bring this up regarding Gates and Buffett, as if that makes their largesse and greed at the expense of others perfectly acceptable. It's easy to say you support something when you know you're never going to be held accountable for following through.
Few things in life are pure binary, and that's especially true of humans themselves. My take on Gates is that he was a smart but cutthroat businessman who did a number of things that were at least somewhat unethical, and became one of the richest people in the world. Then he got older and started thinking about his life and his legacy. He has been giving away huge sums of money to really worthwhile causes, like trying to eradicate malaria. He seems pretty sincere in his lobbying for increased taxes for the rich.
Does his philanthropy now erase his unscrupulous behavior when he was young? Not to me, but I do believe he's genuine in wanting to make the world s better place and putting his riches to good use.
Pff, he is still a piece of shit even with his "philantropies". For example, he has given some money to fight some diseases (though even then there is an argument to be made that his focus on fashionable diseases has taken resources away from more pressing diseases affecting the global south, but that's another discussion). But then as soon as it was convenient for him he rallied against lifting the patents of Covid-19 vaccines during a pandemic (https://www.wired.com/story/opinion-the-world-loses-under-bill-gates-vaccine-colonialism/). So what fucking good are his philantropies if he still acts like a piece of shit at the most crucial moments. Everything he does is just to increase his power and influence, and to whitewash his image. He is still the same piece of shit he has always been. You have to be purposefully naive to think anyone who remains a billionaire is trying to do any good.
Everyone say it with me, "THERE. ARE. NO. GOOD. MILLIONAIRES. OR. BILLIONAIRES."
...and not living behind gated walls. My partner works construction in some truly outrageous "communities " and the people in our city don't even know the lavishness of the lives of those who live there.
What could a horse ranch cost? $10?
Much like the soon to be german chancellor, who told an interviewer, that he is upper middle class. All that while being a former Blackrock manager and owning (and using regularily) a personal private jet. Thats some kind of chancellor material...
You'll love this:
https://i.imgur.com/wn5VDPt.jpeg
Oh, I indeed love this XD Thanks for that
Tbf, it is "merely" a private prop plane, not a jet (which would be significantly more expensive still). But yeah, not exactly middle class material…
They mean billionaire middleclass.
I think they actually do. $16 million is like weekend money for them, I’m guessing
They don’t even spend that money, as is all billionaire spending. They borrow against their assets and profit enough to pay back the loan so they literally don’t spend money by using that credit line to buy more assets. Gates, bezos, musk, etc. depending on their market situation they could literally take a piss and be 16 million dollars richer or poorer and it wouldn’t matter.
It's insanely broken and dangerous. If money was gravity they'd be black holes, disrupting everything in the galaxy. Someday we'll all be gone, and all that's left will be one self-important machine counting all the money in the world until its circuits burn out. The heat death of capitalism.
I want to be this middle class...
“Middle class” isn’t a thing. There’s the working class and the ruling class.
and in the narrow band where you neither need to work nor have the wealth to rule is the middle class.
Rich people are so goddamn out of touch with reality.
Well, okay, if that's upper class then what size ranches do middle class people buy for their kids' graduation?
You crazy LEGO is crazy expensive!
Mattel brand. Less cost on maintenance also.
Lol "middle class"... Does anyone know a middle class family? I just see people with money, and people who don't have enough. That's the real world... Maybe long ago there was a middle class?
I've met people who had enough but not too much. Never hurting for money, one vacation a year out of state but not out of the country, bought cars new but drove them for decades. Working class, but comfortable.
Yeah, some still exists, most have gone the way of the dodo
https://www.pewresearch.org/race-and-ethnicity/2024/05/31/the-state-of-the-american-middle-class/
Diminished sure, but still the largest group.
and gates has to reinvent his image with his "charity work" he still a ruthless businessman, and countries complained about his vaccine requirements as well.
In 2018, Bill Gates' net worth was approximately $90 billion. His estimated income was around $12 billion, according to estimates from Business Insider.
In 2018, the median net worth of an American household was $101,800. I chose median cause these billionaires drastically skew the mean. The median household income was $63,179.
If an average American household gave the same scale of gift in 2018, based on household income, the gift would be $83.29, and based on net worth, it'd be $17.89.
So it's the equivalent of letting you kid buy a DVD from the discount bin.
At those sums, there's really no equivalent. That discounted DVD has a real impact on your finances, even though it is a small impact. There's no purchase that Bill Gates has to forego after spending 16 million on a horse farm, because the money flows in faster than he could ever spend it. He won't be steaming a ham fewer for it, as we say in upstate New York.
It's like letting your kid buy a DVD from the discount bin at the store you own?
When you are a billionaire a $16m ranch is middle class.
Remember the difference between 1 million and 1 billion, is 1 billion.
It's not. It's 999 million.
rounded up
Eh, it's a 0.1% difference
Correct.
It's well within tolerance. Functionally 1 billion :p
I'll gladly take the difference.
Maybe that's why these 1%ers wealth hoard so hard, maybe they genuinely think they ARE middle class.
They're either extremely uneducated in current standards of living, or being purposefully deceitful. I'd like to think it's the former. They should have a class for rich people so they can understand what life is like without family money or high salaries.
No class can teach you what it feels like to be a few bucks away from homelessness.
When the class is over the billionaires go back to their worry free lives. The poor worry about ending up on the street.
See now if failure to pass the empathy class results in your forced destitution there might be some incentive to pay attention
Made me think of the Meme: "Who wants to be a millionaire? - but with Billionaires, so it's more of a threat."
If we made empathy classes a must with our current governing systems, I cannot imagine them not beeing corrupted and used against the poor within seconds of becoming obligatory.
Warren Buffet keeps around the house he bought in Omaha, Nebraska in 1958 and brags about how little it is worth. The man travels on private jets and sleeps in hotel high rises, surrounded by an army of aides and adjuncts and a smattering of medical staff. But he's still got the title to that old homestead from sixty years ago, so he's perpetually middle class according to business talking heads.
I remember seeing a clip a long time ago of someone asking Gates how much a box of rice-a-roni is and he was like… 5$?
Found it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad_higXixRA
I'd have the same difficulty tbh. I don't live in the US so no rice-a-roni here anyway, but there are a lot of premade foods available here too, and... I just don't really buy them very often, even if I'm alone, I just cook or throw like a frozen pizza in the oven, but I don't experiment a lot with those boxed meals. I also only ever buy stuff like laundry detergents at discount so I never even think about the normal price. I go to the store, see a detergent at the regular price, go "fuck no" and buy something else that's on discount and half the price per liter or per pod. There's nearly always something available for a good price, sometimes it's a local brand that's already cheaper than the foreign brands.
I can, however, tell you the prices of different pasta brands (the cheaper ones, not the expensive ones) to within 20 cents. Usually half a kilo of dry pasta is like 1.19, or under 1 euro on discount. Frozen french fries - used to be around 1.20 for 750 grams, jumped to something like 1.79 and hell I think in some stores it's 2.19 now unless there's a discount. Pack of mince meat - depends on size and whether it's pork, moo or a mixture of both, somewhere between 2.50 and 5 euros per package.
In the U.K. there’s a somewhat popular TV series called “Rich House, Poor House”. We still worship the rich.
Well put yourself in their shoes. They ARE the middle class when they are surrounded by only the top 1%.
We are not existant/irrelevant others. That will stay the same as long as their heads remain attached.
I like your style.
I thought this was a Philomena Cunk meme at first
How do you raise a child “middle class in this house:
Bill Gates designed and owns a 66,000-square-foot (6,100 m2) mansion that is on Lake Washington in Medina, Washington.In 2009, property taxes were reported to be US$1.063 million on a total assessed value of US$147.5 million.
The house features an estate-wide server system, a 60-foot (18 m) swimming pool with an underwater music system, a 2,500-square-foot (230 m2) gym, and a 1,000-square-foot (93 m2) dining room. There are six kitchens and 24 bathrooms, ten of which contain bathtubs.
Why TF would you put in a pool that is 7 m shorter than Olympic sized? There's a reason they are 25 m. It makes it much easier to determine your daily workout.
Olympic-sized is 50 meters, but your point stands.
Bill Gates is rich enough to have other people work out for him.
20 yards is still a nice number, but it is weird to not just go a bit further and hit the 25m distance of a standard competitive pool
Hmmph. The most surprising part is that there are ten tubs for 24 bathrooms. You'd think those sort of people would just have combined the ten tubs into three giant tubs in 8 giant bathrooms so they could do their kinky stuff. Wasn't bill a multiple time guest of epstein?
Its middle class, how much do they need to spend on graduation? 1mil? Yeah, we'll go 16mil and be the most middle class.
These rich people are so disconnected from the actual reality that the rest of us live in that it's not funny. And to make matters worse, a lot of these rich people see themselves as visionaries and leaders. Imagine that, blind visionaries. And to make matters even worse than that, a lot of people worship these 'visionaries' that can't even picture what life is like without billions of dollars, as if they have all the answers.
So, Bill (after the divorce) buys the ranch as a gift, but the headline circles it back to a unsourced Melinda quote ON YAHOO FINANCE! This is another obfuscating hatchet job to whitewash billionaire behaviour by media owned by said billionaires. Please don't engage. This is non-news. Down vote this to the sewer where it belongs.
Never forget that Bill's mom was on the board of directors at IBM and pushed for the company to use her boy's software startup in the very beginning. Microsoft was built entirely on this nepotism and monopoly. There is nothing remotely middle class about that story.
She wasn’t on the board of directors of IBM, she was on another board which the CEO of IBM was also on.
It’s a distinction without a difference, but still.
cross class "networking" is common and more or less the only way people move up in the class system. Having rich colleagues/ aquatences is an important part of most extremely successful startups and is absolutely something that happens to "middle class" people, just not to those living paycheck to paycheck.
No one really seems to know what middle class is anymore. Both the family that is one missed paycheck from being homeless and the one lobbying their state for school vouchers so they can repurpose the cost of their kids' private school tuition to their college fund think they're middle class.
Is there a real definition of middle class? I've seen income percentile based ones, but that's just bs, because depending on how poor or rich and equal or unequal a society is as well as cost of living, being in the 50th percentile might mean you're dry pasta every day (because it's cheaper than instant noodles, per kilogram), or it might mean you're very comfortable.
What follows is entirely subjective, and is my perception of middle class is, in the US versus my own country, Estonia)
To me, middle class means you can live a comfortable lifestyle, and once you've been earning a decent income for a while, you can lose your job and keep living mostly the same lifestyle for several months without going bankrupt. But in reality, that may be only people in the top 20% (excluding the 0.1% ultra wealthy that are most definitely NOT middle class).
Middle class is the classic 80s and 90s American movie/TV show family. Either the sole provider, or both parents if both are employed, lose their jobs? Well, it'll be a tight few months, but we'll make it.
Home is not middle class though. This article puts it into perspective. I love this bit: "So what did Kevin’s parents do for a living? It’s likely the mom was a fashion designer considering the amount of mannequins in the home. As for the dad, he was likely a regular businessman." What the hell is a "regular businessman" and how do I become one and make 300k+ 2022 dollars solo or 600k+ total household?
Now you could say "this is what the middle class was in the 80s and 90s, it's not like that anymore", to which I'd say, no, it's not that the middle class has changed, it's that the middle class is shrinking hard, and most Americans are actually working class now.
Anyway, this is my thoughts about a country I don't live in and thus heavily skewed based on media. In my own country, the middle class has only started forming over the last decade or 2. We gained independence from the soviet union in 1992 and at first the class system was "hustlers and organized crime vs normal people (poor)". Nearly all the wealthy businessmen of the 00s either had organized crime ties in the 90s, or deceived people out of their capital vouchers (yes, that was a thing during the privatization of the country). After all, what good is a voucher when you need food money NOW?
A couple of decades later, to me, growing up middle class here means you're not worried about where the down payment for your first home is coming from after you've held a job for a few years. Growing up upper middle class is never having to rent in your life, your parents help make sure of that. Upper class is if your parents didn't just buy you a home with a loan or fund your down payment, they bought it outright for cash. Now yes, it's possible that your parents are loaded and don't help you at all because "damn kids need to learn how to make it on their own", but most parents do realize that getting started in life is ridiculously hard, so if it's within their means, they tend want to help their kids get their foot in the home ownership door one way or another. Also noteworthy is that unlike the US, buying an apartment/condo here is a much better deal generally, so most people's first home is an apartment/condo. I mean we get shafted less when renting too, but most people still want to own (even if with a loan), because otherwise you're just paying someone else's mortgage, or funding their holidays.
All in all, middle class is a vibe based definition more than a numbers based one if you ask me.
Millionaires are the middle class now.
yes, probably more accurately multi millionaires?
Gates may be one of the better billionaires, but it's still like comparing prostate cancer to brain cancer.
What makes you think that ? The missing bad headlines in the newspapers ?
How much can a banana cost, Michael? $10?
I wish that had not been foreshadowing...
That doesn't sound right.
That’s because the term “middle class” without context doesn’t mean much.
My wife and I life in the Twin Cities metro in Minnesota and we meet the definition of middle class for this part of the country which ranges for our state from ~$55k to ~$150k if going based on income.
We have almost no retirement savings but we have tens of thousands in the bank, we have a mortgaged home, two cars 6 years or newer with one completely paid off, in the last 3 years we’ve had to replace our AC, furnace, water heater, water softener, stove, refrigerator, dishwasher and garage door. We have also chosen to replace our kitchen counter, front door and front walk/patio as well as add a fence and dog door. All of this we paid for up front in cash.
We carry no debt outside of my student loans which I pay on every month as well as one car loan and our mortgage. We both go to the dentist and get all needed medical care.
Caveats to this are we don’t have kids and I can’t imagine how difficult it would be if we did. We also live pretty simple lives. We’ve always lived in a fashion so that we could afford our basic expenses on one income because my wife and I both lived very poor, check-to-check lives when we were younger.
I don’t think middle class truly exists anymore. You either can afford to live now or you can’t, it’s just by how much and where.
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Man that must be rough. Poor people only have to worry about where their next meal is coming from and whether they can afford rent. I can't imagine having to deal with repairing my house.
FYI. Not trying to say you don't have struggles or challenges. But to say that it's harder to live like that than being even more poor is insane. Just like the rich people this thread is about.
Yeah, again I'm not saying you don't have struggles. I get it. But to phrase it in a way that suggests you have it worse than poorer people is insane. These people don't have half the shit you do.
Also you said that sometimes poor people have it better than middle class. And that's just not true.
It's not. If you can't afford a dentist you're not middle class. IDK where dude lives, but I make $100k in a major metro area in the USA and consider myself middle class. My family still qualifies for partial forgiveness from medical bills.
My area introduced tiers for medical forgiveness based on household income, even if I made twice as much there'd still be some degree of assistance. May be worth looking into for your family.
They seem to think you're only middle class if you've never been to Epstein Island.
Leaves Bill out!
Melinda fucking Gates doesn't know what "middle class" means, big shocker there…
middle class to her is being a poor millionaire's budget.
To be fair, out of all the billionaires they at least have made attempts to not make their kids shiteheads which is in stark contrast to most billionaires. At one point in time at least, they were only leaving $10m to each child, with plans to donate everything else.
Is that enough to live better than 99.99% of us? Absolutely. But it's also not: I can do whatever I want and buy whatever I want and never have to think about money again.
The plans were to donate everything else to a tax-advantaged "charity" in which the Gates family retains complete financial control.
This is not philanthropy. It is tax avoidance, greenwashing, and a public relations campaign.
Yeah, it might be public relations, but the malaria nets and polio vaccines and HIV treatments and guinea work eradication did actually save millions of lives.
It's one thing to argue that doing good doesn't make up for doing bad, but it's another thing to refuse to acknowledge the good at all.
the countries have complained about his vaccines as being only sourced from us backed countries, so most of them couldnt afford it. he still pretty much a ruthless business man, like the above comments he is greenwashing his image.
How many billionaires are sourcing from locals? Guessing the answer is closer to none.
when gates was on reddit, he choose AMA sub, so he wouldnt get criticized, they wouldnt allow you to question him on his charities being used tax evasion or money laundering.
this is not how generational wealth work.
lets say you are 17. having a party in the house with 100k cash in your bank account. you hear dad talk about a big merger "this company will be this company and the stock will go up" you put 50k on that and now you have 300k or something.
I sat with a few upper class once, if I have cache on hand I will be millionaire by now, it doesn't take much to get rich when you hang out with rich people....
It's more like "Hey, I have an idea for a new type of toilet. Can you get me a meeting with your golf buddy who is the CEO of the largest toilet company in the world?". This is literally how Microsoft started.
That’s all she’s saying. They raised the kids with limits. That’s what she should have said. They obviously weren’t raised “middle class” or anything like it.
I mean, its really open to interpretation.
If Melinda got them up in the morning, made them breakfast and drove them to school herself and picked them up (Even if its in a Bentley), make their snacks when they get home and helped them with their homework(even if you're getting the snacks out of a walk-in fridge and the housekeeper bought them) thats some regular people shit.
If you have the nanny get them up, the driver take them to school and pick them up then their tutor helps them with their homework while your chef asks them what they would like for dinner... thats not.
I don’t agree that it’s open to interpretation or that your first example constitutes “regular people shit” in any meaningful way. I agree that there’s a difference between having servants and not, obviously, but I don’t think it’s that helpful of a distinction here.
Second of all, flying on a private jet and living in a mega mansion is in no way middle class. I just can’t get on board with the idea of mom picking you up in a Bentley and getting snacks out of a walk-in fridge as being middle class.
I think my point stands. I think it was good to raise them with limits and some humility, that will help them in life, but I think “middle class” and “regular people shit” is simply inapplicable here.
Middle finger class.
To be fair, by the time you graduate from college, you've already been raised.
At least he's relatively philanthropic, Mush and Bezilbub don't even try to make other peoples lives better.
I worry more about the actual rent-seeking oligarchy in my part of the world running for political positions in next month's elections, purely for feudalistic reasons.
I know people want to hate on Bill for being rich, and I can understand that, but I still prefer him to a certain South African billionaire.
Maybe some people will say that's like comparing a giant douche to a turd sandwich though.
You don't have to choose a favourite when none should exist
Why are you choosing favorites?
I know what they mean. Id definitely love to see him in some kind of death match.
It’s a nice race to the bottom 🤷♂️
At least Bill gives away a lot of his money, and his stance on politics seems relatively sensible and measured. Whereas the South African billionaire gets a kick out of being stupid and damaging to the US (and beyond the US if you look at his comments on foreign politics).
Does he? If you still control how it is spent, are you really giving it away?
Actually yeah. You can't just give a billion to an organization. Most of the organizations that receive money have the capacity to handle millions at most. Anything above that would just sit on their bank accounts because they'd have to scale up massively.
The amount of money the Gates Foundation is handling requires so much managing that they have 2000 employees.
I suggest to read up on what they are actually doing:
It's quite altruistic in nature.
Giving it away allows other people to decide what to do with it.
Gates is in full control of what he "gives" away.
I literally explained why it is set up like that. Except for the part where they use money of the foundation to make more money for the foundation.
And rightfully so. The foundation is always looking for organizations to give grants to. You can't just give it all away randomly. To give away so much money you need to put it somewhere where it can be distributed fairly. Which is exactly what the foundation is doing.
The only real argument you can have against Gates is whether or not he should be giving even more. But that is not the best argument because he still is giving away much more than people more wealthy as him.
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/how-gates-foundations-investments-are-undermining-its-own-good-works/
Examples of irresponsible investing include some of the world's worst polluters, including ConocoPhillips, Dow Chemical and Tyco International; predatory lending companies such as Sallie Mae; fraudulent health care firms; and chocolate companies profiting from the slave labor of children.
International Assessment of Agricultural Knowledge, Science and Technology for Development (IAASTD) conclusions were diametrically opposed, at both philosophical and practical levels, to those espoused by Gates.
His personal investments benefited from foundation grants in Agbiome, Incarta therapeutics and Just Biotherapeutics
Not surprising given that Cascade Investments controls both the foundation and Bill's personal portfolio.
He spends quite big sums on healthcare I think? I'm not saying he's a perfect guy. Maybe the world would be better if taxes were such that nobody could be a billionaire. I just think I prefer Bill Gates to other billionaires, especially the prominent South African one.
He blocked Oxford university from open sourcing it's covid vaccine so that his other vaccine investments paid off.
Being a billionaire in a world where most people don't even early 50k annually is objectively immoral.
A graduation gift worth more than most people will earn over an entire career.
This shows you how billionaires imagine middle class to be. They're completely out of touch, as expected.
Never defend a billionaire, they would never defend you. Don't defend them, idolize them, or trust them. Billionaires care about money and the power it provides, NOTHING ELSE. That's the main prerequisite for becoming filthy rich, after all.
That's right, they're comparing to other billionaires and looking at themselves being so humble that they must be middle class. It's unfathomable to them to know what it's really like.
I suppose, to her, having millions of dollars is soooo far away from her life that she has to look at it with binoculars and think that it should be middle-class.
She means she told them to hold their wallet around the blacks in the city, and that only feminine gays are acceptable.
I'm out of the loop for this. Is this something middle class families believe?
probably confusing it with UPPER middle class people, which are nowhere near middle class.
Even then, is there anyone, apart from TV execs who only cast stereotypes, who think masculine gays aren't acceptable?
But Daaaaaaaad, all the other kids are getting a horse farm!
She's that bored.
Ikr? Rich and power but still a weird horse girl
Akshually. Depending on which definition you use they are middle class. The original meaning of middle class is the wealthy who don’t hold a title. They sit below the aristocracy aka upperclass, and above the peasantry aka the working class. The middle class is also called the bourgeoisie.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourgeoisie
i like the original meaning because it made it a lot easier to point at the bourgeois and their politics (which is currently ruining my country and the proletariat is more than willing to lean even harder into their destructive mandates).
in my country/culture, middle class is (or at least was) anyone who have earned a professional title of high esteem. i.e. a doctor. and socially they were highly respected, regardless of actual wealth status. wealthy people used to be targets of ridicule (because they tried to flaunt their wealth in public. i still remember, 20 years ago, how one of our wealthiest individuals were literally crying on TV how no one respected her for wealth and she much preferred american culture. incidentally and totally unrelated; she launched a bunch of reality tv shows about worshipping wealth after that).
unfortunately american social media and said reality TV shows have radically changed how youth and the younger generation identify "status". i always hear about how they will be rich one day and buy a super mansion. but if you ask what the purpose of that is; they couldn't explain it - it's just what they're told to desire.
so from my perspective, the next 2-3 generations are on a path to ruin in the name of capital ownership for the few.
My sister and husband were confused when I said its sad Microsoft owns Xbox, one of our favorite past times. And it because of shit like this. Tax the fuckers, tax them one cent I dare u.
Ok.
He's such a philantropist
$16 Million Horse Farm and middle class income. Can he drop the farm to some random person from middle class so we can compare the outcomes ?
Jennifer Gates, born on April 26, 1996, would have been 22 years old in 2018. All the raising has been done at that point.
This kind of wealth is obscene and disgusting. Anyone who has kids knows they'd rather have the box than the toy or spend time with you than a horse farm.
These billionares are just chasing somethjng they can never have. Peace of mind. Unless you give up buying shit and expanding your empire it just leads to bad places which is most likely why Melinda left him. He probably got twisted and bored and took a trip to Epstein island.
I would not be surprised if these super rich are doing shit like pdiddy that would shock the hell out of you.
Everyone in the US is middle class. You can be upper middle class or lower middle class, but you can never not be middle class.
They ate cereal for dinner one night per week. Super middle class. /s
All I got was a beer
Clearly not relatable at all but why do we talk about that all of a sudden? Is it a diversion over something else?
The corporation knows we hate billionaires. They rang the dinner bell and gave us our slop. Now we need to lap it up and generate ad revenue for the business. We need to tell the world: ragebait articles contribute to society, they generate value, it brings in the visitors.
Why TF would you put in a pool that is 7 m shorter than Olympic sized? There's a reason they are 25 m. It makes it much easier to determine your daily workout.She is a commoner. How else could she raise her kids?