Except they always do it in the dumbest ways because they don't want to have to rub elbows with plebeians. They want their own private service, every time.
If trump managed to build effective high speed rail that goes coast to coast, hits more than just NYC and LA, and is affordable, I think history would probably end up forgiving him for a lot of shit.
On an unrelated note I, another scary leftist, am so triggered every time I see a Tesla. Right wingers switching to EVs really makes me feel like an owned lib.
YES CYBERTRUCKS FOR EVERYONE. ALL MY MONEY TO MUSK!!! TIRE PARTICULATE IN THE AIR AND PAVEMENT OVER EVERY ECOLOGY! CHILD SLAVES MINING THE MATERIALS!!! YES!!!
Fun fact: the train pictured here is a Siemens Velaro. That's the same family of train as the ICE.
It's the American Pioneer Edition, the variant for the American market, set to operate Brightline West services, but even that one is based on Velaro Novo, a platform designed 100% in Germany.
Honestly at this point, we should just all fully get behind this tactic as I think it genuinely has a good shot of accomplishing more than taking politics seriously.
You're describing something very deep, while only touching the surface.
On the left, people are not very forgiving of other leftists, when they cross the line. And if you really cross the line, then we just don't want you on our team anymore, gtfo.
On the right, it's like no matter what you've done, as long as you fight for the same thing as the others, you can still be on the team. This is why you see artists make a shift to the right, just before a big scandal, they know they will still have a fangroup as long as they share rightwing propoganda.
This is great for the right wing in the short term, but eventually the techbros and the christofascists, and the Nazis will all realize that they don't really have anything in common, except a desire to rule everything. "But not like that, like this!"
It's gonna be interesting to see the showdown between all the different fascist groups Trump has under his flag.
Yes, fascism cannibalizes itself. This means that, in the end, fascism always collapses, however, that doesn't prevent it from doing lots of damage in the meantime
The only reason Trump wants to do this, is because Elon would get the contract. Just another way to funnel taxpayer money into the hands of the PayPal Mafia.
If money laundering bankrupted casinos, then Las Vegas would be just another ghost town in the desert. It takes a special level of stupid to bankrupt a casino. Especially if you are using it to launder money.
I'm sorry, I thought it was pretty obvious that I was making a comparison that was contemporary with FinCens actions against the Trump crime syndicate. Not 70+ years ago.
I get that, but my point was that some of the most corrupt, greedy, and murderous people in the history of the US managed to build an entire city out of nothing, in the middle of the desert, well away from anywhere. In a place that no same person would ever want to be for any reason, and they turned it into a destination for people from around the globe.
It wasn't greed, corruption, or money laundering that bankrupted his casinos. It was unmitigated, weapons grade, stupidity and incompetence.
All of Atlantic City basically collapsed on itself as Vegas siphoned away the high rollers.
Trump thought he could buy into an old casino and revitalize it. But he's Trump, so he did it all wrong and just got to ride the crash all the way into the dirt.
Well, he thought running a casino was an easy way to print money. He threw a ton of investment at pastiche, bilked his builders, shortchanged his staff, and created a very glitzy slum.
The Adelsons and the Wynns have been laundering money in the same way, but none of their casinos go belly up. They're just as evil but far more competent.
With America's amazing track record of spending big on repairs and maintenance to infrastructure, I can see absolutely nothing going wrong with this at all.
Let's declare a war on bad infrastructure! We can funnel all "War on Y" money in. America First! Let's reduce unemployment with a huge jobs program. Hire everyone to build tracks, trails, and parks.
Trump supporters haven't figured out we don't just oppose them blindly, it's just almost all terrible ideas.
Throw a good idea out there like a high speed train, and we have no problem supporting it, because non-Maga are generally well adjusted humans capable of reasoning.
I just got back from my local Trans Action Committee weekly meeting and interrupted their discussion on their plans to further subvert our children to ask them about this, and they hate the idea!
No, but Hitler built the Autobahn (mostly for war purposes) and to this day there a still a few Germans that use this for "at least he did something good".
Not even that. The plans existed beforehand, and what the Nazis built was largely useless in war as rail logistics were way more important and the network was rather incomplete. What the Autobahn did enable, though, was the quick advance of allied troops. Parts of the Autobahn were also used as military airports which is why you see the current-day Autobahn make a weird curve around Ramstein Airbase. Those still exist but unlike in the cold war it's not airbases that can pop up within days but sections of paved median, with the barriers separating the directions being easily removable. That is, the runway is mostly in place, the rest would have to be constructed, OTOH it's dirt cheap to do.
Mostly, for the Nazis, it was a works programme. Millions of unemployed were put to the task under quite bad working conditions, the workers then wrote letters to the Führer portraying the bad, "Ungermanic, dishonourable" behaviour of their bosses, those letters never reached Hitler they reached the GeStaPo. C.f. "Wenn das der Führer wüsste".
Oh, EDIT, there's one good thing that came out of Nazi rule: They pushed full-grain bread, preferably rye, heavily. The whole ideology behind it was Nazi-typical bonkers, also preparation for a war economy, but the idea in general is definitely a good one and Germany kept its preference for at least partly full-grain as well as rye-heavy breads.
"Fascist administration carried out infrastructure (using slave labour) that would create benefit for the companies it was serving" isn't the own fascists think it is.
I’ve heard both… let me check where it originated.
Edit: yep. Mussolini gets firsties for the “Trains on time” propaganda. Looks like maybe around the early 1920s he was trying to convince people that fascists could do great things for society and the trains were part of the propaganda. Hitler gets mixed in to the trains propaganda much later.
If slapping his stupid name on it gets it built and distracts him from his more evil projects, it would be worth it. A little paint would change it later.
Oh shit, unless, it just occurred to me, maybe their real purpose is to ship nontrumpists to concentration camps.
Well a Dutch oven can be say, a van full off pot/weed smoke, so that's not such a bad thing. Unfortunately the other type isn't something I'm enjoying in my mind, even with diapers on.
as great as high speed rail would be... the problem with this would be the people it would kill because they cut corners. same reason to be wary of any push for nuclear power by this administration.
I half remember something like that happening in Brazil. The right proposes something the left approves, there's no fight, they realize their mistake and start opposing their own idea.
I'm all in favor of this, though he'll find some way to fuck it up, if it happens at all and isn't just a way to siphon money out of the government for his buddies
Elon and people like him are just western versions of Dahir Insaat
getting hyped over concepts that are infeasible, impractical, or just straight up grifts.
Its called projection. They automatically hate anything the other side does because they have no actual principles, so they assume the otherside would act the same.
No, but most of us would be sceptical of how he'll implement it, if it ever comes to pass at all... He's announced a number of things I've actually agreed with and I can't think of a single time he's not found some way to fuck it up
Trump, a very stable genius knows high speed rail is a good idea. I am extremely against high speed rail as an antifa leftist.
carcinisation of mass transit – right-wingers and tech bros keep re-inventing the train
Except they always do it in the dumbest ways because they don't want to have to rub elbows with plebeians. They want their own private service, every time.
Trains used to have private cars, that's totally available to those shit bastards. Train don't care
what if we put everyone in an artillery shell and simply fired them along a ballistic arc toward their destination?
Soon:
Related: The Cannon Travel was legit one of my favorite parts of the video game Secret of Mana.
The Miracle Transport Machine in Legend of the Mystical Ninja, too!
If I could take that bad boy to work everyday, you bet your ass I would.
At least this is a real train, not "pods" or just some teslas in a tunnel.
some teslas in a tunnel with no clearance and no ventilation
On fire.
Except this is just...a train? What are you saying they're reinventing here?
Also, it's absolutely just a play on the final words of the post rather than an actual appeal for more trains.
That's just an Americanised Version of the Siemens Velaro Novo Platform
https://www.mobility.siemens.com/us/en/portfolio/rolling-stock/high-speed-and-intercity-trains/american-pioneer-220.html
If trump managed to build effective high speed rail that goes coast to coast, hits more than just NYC and LA, and is affordable, I think history would probably end up forgiving him for a lot of shit.
Never gonna happen though.
I wouldn't trust it for a second. They'd use it to move minorities into camps more efficiently
Arbeit Macht Frei, baby.
That's German for "All aboard the Trump Train!"
OK but you missed a golden opportunity to use the word Fahrt.
Only Arbeit is capitalized and its the only noun.
In german the capitalisation of words sometimes changes the meaning of the:
macht (from the verb machen, to do/make) Macht (as a verb means force/power/might)
I saw this double meaning several times, like the title of an art exibition: Geld Macht Kunst ( money, power, art or money makes art)
Yeah, they would arrest more Latinos without due process and have us build the rail as slave labor (contracted out to their corporate buddies, ofc.)
Or just a quick stop in the valley between Dry Mountain and Saline Peak near Death Valley to "drop off some passengers".
And there is no forgiveness either.
Canadian here. No we fucking won't.
It would make getting to DC for protests a whole lot easier.
It'd be Trumps "Hitler build the Autobahn".
This is exactly how you motivate a toddler.
At least the toddler grows up eventually
Actually I find "Here comes the airplane" to be way more effective.
... is this a 9/11 joke?
Deadass im okay with naming it the trump train we can rename it later it would 100% get him to build it
All aboard the MAGA express
Chhoooo chooooo, next stop: Nazitown
Somehow I’m thankful this image is AI generated for once.
I don't think I'd trust anything with his name on it.
I am for high speed rail, but I am 150% against the Trump train.
I would prefer my 200mph train to stay on the tracks.
When you arrive at the train station, the trump train pulls in, and its 2 jackasses pulling a train of red wagons built by telsa.
On an unrelated note I, another scary leftist, am so triggered every time I see a Tesla. Right wingers switching to EVs really makes me feel like an owned lib.
YES CYBERTRUCKS FOR EVERYONE. ALL MY MONEY TO MUSK!!! TIRE PARTICULATE IN THE AIR AND PAVEMENT OVER EVERY ECOLOGY! CHILD SLAVES MINING THE MATERIALS!!! YES!!!
200mph? Like those french trains in the nineties?
200mph is pretty good. That's 320 kph. IIRC, China's high speed rail has a max speed of 350kph, often cruising at 300kph.
Yeah, even the german ICEs can do that much. US mediocratism as usual.
Hey now, we were mediocre before but now have crossed well into toxic inferiority.
It can do that much for about 20 minutes before it hits a Stau.
ICE making America Great Again!!!!"
Fun fact: the train pictured here is a Siemens Velaro. That's the same family of train as the ICE.
It's the American Pioneer Edition, the variant for the American market, set to operate Brightline West services, but even that one is based on Velaro Novo, a platform designed 100% in Germany.
Edit: Velaro Novo for comparison:
Honestly at this point, we should just all fully get behind this tactic as I think it genuinely has a good shot of accomplishing more than taking politics seriously.
At which point might as well elect competent representatives then lol
You're describing something very deep, while only touching the surface.
On the left, people are not very forgiving of other leftists, when they cross the line. And if you really cross the line, then we just don't want you on our team anymore, gtfo.
On the right, it's like no matter what you've done, as long as you fight for the same thing as the others, you can still be on the team. This is why you see artists make a shift to the right, just before a big scandal, they know they will still have a fangroup as long as they share rightwing propoganda.
This is great for the right wing in the short term, but eventually the techbros and the christofascists, and the Nazis will all realize that they don't really have anything in common, except a desire to rule everything. "But not like that, like this!"
It's gonna be interesting to see the showdown between all the different fascist groups Trump has under his flag.
Yes, fascism cannibalizes itself. This means that, in the end, fascism always collapses, however, that doesn't prevent it from doing lots of damage in the meantime
Musk sabotaging this "centuries old technology" based project in 3...
The only reason Trump wants to do this, is because Elon would get the contract. Just another way to funnel taxpayer money into the hands of the PayPal Mafia.
Actually, Musk would embrace it and claim to invent the whole concept, say that no one has ever done it before, even while just rebranding a Siemens Mireo: https://tech.yahoo.com/transportation/articles/tesla-launches-worlds-first-electric-111535136.html
What if we made the Trump train... But instead of a train it was a car and instead of a railroad it's a street.
Don't worry it will be bankrupt in no time like all the other Trump stuff including Casinos.
It's high speed rail. I'm guessing the general attitude in here is that we don't want this to fail.
How can you bankrupt a casino? How do you find against math itself and win?
Two casinos.
And the answer to your question is money laundering.
If money laundering bankrupted casinos, then Las Vegas would be just another ghost town in the desert. It takes a special level of stupid to bankrupt a casino. Especially if you are using it to launder money.
It was actually 4 casinos.
https://news.temple.edu/news/2016-10-25/bankruptcy-expert-studies-trump-casinos
Those Las Vegas casinos you are referring to are in compliance with money laundering laws. Trump's were not.
https://www.fincen.gov/news/news-releases/fincen-fines-trump-taj-mahal-casino-resort-10-million-significant-and-long
If you're not taking in enough to cover the amount of money laundering you're doing, you'll end up with a loss on the books.
Ummm, the casinos in Vegas were very much not in compliance with much of anything for decades...https://themobmuseum.org/exhibits/open-city/#%3A%7E%3Atext=In+the+1940s+and+%2750s%2CMob+syndicate+could+invest+here.
I'm sorry, I thought it was pretty obvious that I was making a comparison that was contemporary with FinCens actions against the Trump crime syndicate. Not 70+ years ago.
I get that, but my point was that some of the most corrupt, greedy, and murderous people in the history of the US managed to build an entire city out of nothing, in the middle of the desert, well away from anywhere. In a place that no same person would ever want to be for any reason, and they turned it into a destination for people from around the globe.
It wasn't greed, corruption, or money laundering that bankrupted his casinos. It was unmitigated, weapons grade, stupidity and incompetence.
All of Atlantic City basically collapsed on itself as Vegas siphoned away the high rollers.
Trump thought he could buy into an old casino and revitalize it. But he's Trump, so he did it all wrong and just got to ride the crash all the way into the dirt.
Trump knew he wasn't going to revitalize anything. The whole thing was a money laundering scam for him.
Well, he thought running a casino was an easy way to print money. He threw a ton of investment at pastiche, bilked his builders, shortchanged his staff, and created a very glitzy slum.
The Adelsons and the Wynns have been laundering money in the same way, but none of their casinos go belly up. They're just as evil but far more competent.
He is fighting against math right now. Maybe the real game with the tariffs is market manipulation.
NO!!!!
LETS DIG A TUNNEL INSTEAD!!!
So this legitimately happened in Chicago ten years ago, fortunately it went nowhere: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Express_Loop
The most frustrating part is that WE ALREADY HAVE A COMMUTER RAIL FROM DOWNTOWN TO O'HARE, it just only runs three times a day, and only on weekdays.
Musk did this in other places also. The Boring Company (get it? Get it?) is a fraud designed to keep people from moving away from electric cars.
With America's amazing track record of spending big on repairs and maintenance to infrastructure, I can see absolutely nothing going wrong with this at all.
Let's declare a war on bad infrastructure! We can funnel all "War on Y" money in. America First! Let's reduce unemployment with a huge jobs program. Hire everyone to build tracks, trails, and parks.
So, you're not going to believe this, but...
Just have the people who maintain the roads in michigan build it! What could go wrong!
well US could have been already working towards that if Elon did not derail all funds to his ridiculously failed hyperloop
puts on red hat Yep just MAGA over here with my high speed rail and free universal healthcare, just as the founding Trumps intended
Trump supporters haven't figured out we don't just oppose them blindly, it's just almost all terrible ideas.
Throw a good idea out there like a high speed train, and we have no problem supporting it, because non-Maga are generally well adjusted humans capable of reasoning.
I would be amazed if they can actually build the train using only American parts like they claim.
Finally, a way to get right wingers to support HSR.
Effective mass transit to own the libs?
I am ok if this works.
This is just Elon's Hyperloop again
It's cybertrucks chained up together !
He'd plaster his stupid face and logo all over it.
Easy enough to ignore.
And eventually paint over.
Not if they call it Trump trains
Its a fucking train, just call it train
They can call it Trump Train if they want I just want a train that will get me between Chicago and NYC cheaper than a plane but faster than a car.
Let them build first, we can change name later. Imaging having a high speed railway in US
Imagine just having trains already! Like in Europe, not the American shit
I just got back from my local Trans Action Committee weekly meeting and interrupted their discussion on their plans to further subvert our children to ask them about this, and they hate the idea!
Trans is just trains without an i
You can't spell "public transport" without "trans"!
Hitler made the trains run on time.
(Not really)
No, but Hitler built the Autobahn (mostly for war purposes) and to this day there a still a few Germans that use this for "at least he did something good".
Not even that. The plans existed beforehand, and what the Nazis built was largely useless in war as rail logistics were way more important and the network was rather incomplete. What the Autobahn did enable, though, was the quick advance of allied troops. Parts of the Autobahn were also used as military airports which is why you see the current-day Autobahn make a weird curve around Ramstein Airbase. Those still exist but unlike in the cold war it's not airbases that can pop up within days but sections of paved median, with the barriers separating the directions being easily removable. That is, the runway is mostly in place, the rest would have to be constructed, OTOH it's dirt cheap to do.
Mostly, for the Nazis, it was a works programme. Millions of unemployed were put to the task under quite bad working conditions, the workers then wrote letters to the Führer portraying the bad, "Ungermanic, dishonourable" behaviour of their bosses, those letters never reached Hitler they reached the GeStaPo. C.f. "Wenn das der Führer wüsste".
Oh, EDIT, there's one good thing that came out of Nazi rule: They pushed full-grain bread, preferably rye, heavily. The whole ideology behind it was Nazi-typical bonkers, also preparation for a war economy, but the idea in general is definitely a good one and Germany kept its preference for at least partly full-grain as well as rye-heavy breads.
"Fascist administration carried out infrastructure (using slave labour) that would create benefit for the companies it was serving" isn't the own fascists think it is.
Cars <---> Fascism
Wasn't that more Mussolini's thing ? (Only in the propaganda, but still.)
Yeah, definitely Mussolini's propaganda
I’ve heard both… let me check where it originated.
Edit: yep. Mussolini gets firsties for the “Trains on time” propaganda. Looks like maybe around the early 1920s he was trying to convince people that fascists could do great things for society and the trains were part of the propaganda. Hitler gets mixed in to the trains propaganda much later.
Surely nothing bad will follow Nazis building trains.
I mean, build the infrastructure like every other nation & then you can trust the train.
Only 200mph tho? Kinda weaksauce compare to 🖐"CHINA"🤚
Yeah fuck it I'll support the Trump train
i agree twitter user @ FrottingIDK
Oh I would hate that so much. Good thing they will never do that. wink wink
Don't trans people hate trains too?
Hey, the trains here go that fast too
There are no tracks in the US that are safe for high speed trains
None
The Northeast Corridor already has high speed service.
Last I knew they were building or upgrading tracks in Texas-kansas for this.
Art of the deal.
Act of the deal.
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Wht the F dies it have to be called "The trump train" ? Jesus, what next ? trump air.
If slapping his stupid name on it gets it built and distracts him from his more evil projects, it would be worth it. A little paint would change it later.
Oh shit, unless, it just occurred to me, maybe their real purpose is to ship nontrumpists to concentration camps.
Trump Air would just be a Dutch Oven though
Well a Dutch oven can be say, a van full off pot/weed smoke, so that's not such a bad thing. Unfortunately the other type isn't something I'm enjoying in my mind, even with diapers on.
Unfortunately, Trump Air only seems to ever have flights to that one island.
Lol. Well I was actually meaning the air we breathe, but let's not give him any ideas.
Unfortunately, he already did Trump Air. Unsurprisingly, though, he bankrupted it like all his other companies.
Yup. And they'll serve trump steaks onboard
Ah, that favourite cut of republicans, prime trump steak.
Because they want everyone to "get on the Trump Train" (support Trump). That's all the original Trump Train post wants.
When you stare into the abyss...
...the Gulf of Trump stares back at you.
Hmmmmm, there's a good name for that other Gulf that's been renamed recently. Oh shit noooooo
as great as high speed rail would be... the problem with this would be the people it would kill because they cut corners. same reason to be wary of any push for nuclear power by this administration.
Trains cutting corners sounds like a bad thing...
Bump bumpbump whoops!!
Shhhhhh don't call it a high speed rail or they'll never buy it
I half remember something like that happening in Brazil. The right proposes something the left approves, there's no fight, they realize their mistake and start opposing their own idea.
I'm reminded of the time Mitch McConnell filibustered his own bill because too many Democrats supported it.
Choose choo
I'm all in favor of this, though he'll find some way to fuck it up, if it happens at all and isn't just a way to siphon money out of the government for his buddies
Oh, great, more phallic shapes to slap the Trump label on.
Bold to assume he would build something for the benefit of the peasant class. Or create something where he cannot profit from financialy.
Let me guess, this will become a gadgetbahn
Elon and people like him are just western versions of Dahir Insaat getting hyped over concepts that are infeasible, impractical, or just straight up grifts.
Looking at you, hyperloop
Why does your whole country have like 500 stations? The UK has 5 times that and is a hell of a lot smaller.
Trump could propose universal healthcare & many on the left would suddenly hate the idea of everyone having healthcare.
Bait so low quality even tuna won’t touch it
I have never seen so many downvotes on this platform. Also why do you write such nonsense, do you truly believe that or are you simply trolling ?
Also, you are a big silly.
Its called projection. They automatically hate anything the other side does because they have no actual principles, so they assume the otherside would act the same.
Where are you seeing this? I sort of see the opposite.
For example, Hasan Piker, one of the most popular leftist streamers, has a MAGA hat that he puts on when they do something right.
As always, the party of projection is unable to understand that the rest of us actually aren't tribalist twits.
Not me. I don’t have blind allegiance to any team.
No, but most of us would be sceptical of how he'll implement it, if it ever comes to pass at all... He's announced a number of things I've actually agreed with and I can't think of a single time he's not found some way to fuck it up
He did say it, at least once. I know he didn't mean it, but still.