Trump again demands the annexation of Canada
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Fuck off you demented old fool.
We like our women with bodily autonomy and with the right to choose.
We like our right to protest without the fear of being jailed and deported.
We like our heads of state to be respectful and respected on the world stage.
We like our right to privacy without surveillance, and our civil servants free from Krasnov’s oligarchs.
Most importantly, we like our beer to be unshittified!
Sincerely,
The Canadians who haven't already fallen victim to your propaganda.
We're having a bit of trouble with the protest one but I like your spirit!
Might be time for a EU expansion
No one wants to be america. People want to be human beings that are able live as human beings. People don't want to be pawns to a machine that sucks humanity and souls from living bodies.
Am American. Can confirm, would really like to be something else.
Same. Like, damn, I'm a queer leftist woman who takes an SSRI. This administration wants me in a camp for sure and I would happily change nationalities if it were possible. I'm rooting for the Canadians (and the rest of the world that isn't insane), except PP and his ilk.
...are you me?
Add being an anti-zionist Jew, and we could be twins.
Americans don't even want to be American
Am American, can confirm.
It's true. It feels like the only place on the planet that rewards being that ignorant and hateful lout at the party who thinks compassion is some type of gay sex.
This is so true, lol. And it's just like America to attach sex to everything little miniscule thing. If they weren't serious it would be comical.
Another thing. Sex/nudity is only okay in media. Anything goes when it's sold mainstream, but if you have kink... Bam! You automatically a pervert, and if your are gay, your a pedophile rapist pervert.
And what wild is they create these people they hate. These sexual deviances probably wouldn't happen if America wasn't so prudish in real life. There's such a a dissonance in terms of sexuality, nudity, media and reality.
Better than being American?
I went through my ancestry last week with the hope I'd have something to grant me citizenship elsewhere. My dad's side went back 6 generations and I still didn't find anyone outside the US. My mother's was 5 generations before I hit Austria and Germany.
Do Canadians not do that? I'd have thought so considering Canada has had waves of settlers much like the US; but I've not met many Canadians, so I wouldn't know.
Fucking A we do that, and why not? It's interesting to learn peoples ancestry. It'd be strange we didn't do that.
It’s not that people don’t have mixed ancestry in other countries, it’s that nobody mentions it or cares. Americans seem weirdly obsessed with it.
80-year-old angsty teen... how can anyone take this man child seriously?
We don't want to be the 51st state. The idea repulses us, actually.
Elbows up, guys!
Unfortunately, too many Americans did, so now the rest of us have to
The dipshits that voted for him didn’t take him seriously either, they just wanted to fuck over the left, who they’ve been told is a enemy and threat for the last 25 years on Fox and AM radio. The other group that didn’t take him seriously were the ones who sat out or protest voted.
Elbows up!
Trumpy's cultists will take him serious. Those cultists are going to be a problem.
My company:
Has two shops 1 in Canada and 1 in the US; US shop now solely handles all American related jobs while Canada handles any job globally, besides the US.
Real smart play here ol trump
"Let's kill all the jobs now for a few new kinds of jobs that probably won't come to fruition" -Trump, American genius.
So we charged them 25% more for our electricity and his response is to charge his own citizens 25% more??
Wow
Russia's objective isn't tariffs -- it's to splinter/decouple international coordination and cooperation amongst western nations.
So, yeah. The faster Trump can accelerate that, the happier his boss'll be.
Like the buy[local] type campaigns are most likely getting a bit of a bump from Russian propaganda agents -- even if they are 'real' sentiments to some extent too.
I think there's a plan to entertain the US with some conflict while Russia does some shit so it can't intervene later on. Their only true opposition as far as tech goes is the US army so it makes sense to disable it. I also have a feeling part of this is an attempt to normalize the invasion of other countries. And what better way to accomplish it all than to push the US out of NATO so the former Soviet countries are easy pickings for Russia.
It's like watching the Kremlin call the shots at this point. What Trump is doing makes no sense without thinking What Would Putin Do?
I'd agree to some extent, but I honestly think it's a bit more nuanced than a direct "He's doing what Putin wants" situation -- as it's also what the various groups backing Trump in the states want (the folks who were all in on Project 2025). I find it easier to understand as a conflict between an "egalitarian" world view, and an "authoritarian" one. Putin, and Trump's crowd, are clearly on the authoritarian side.
Someone recently pointed out to me that this view of it also aligns to the difference between the greek orthodox church and the roman catholics. In the latter, the translation of the bible into different languages meant individuals were encouraged to read the bible, and determine (in part on their own) how best to avoid hell; in the orthodox approach, it was entirely up to the priests to inform the masses what they had to do to avoid hell, as only the priests could read latin. Russia's still very much of the orthodox approach -- and in the US, many of those mega pastor sorts have pushed in this direction as well. So their interests line up.
That authoritarian mindset also lines up with big tech, and the whole Yarvin nonsense. It lines up with the blanket firing approach and terrorization of the federal work force, to make them more subserviant/compliant. And it generally lines up with the Russian view that the world should be cut up into like 4 blocks, with a 'strong man' leading each block. That division that was pushed forward by Dugin, generally "gives" north America to the US.
Also, forgetting Russia for a moment, the ultra rich love this shit. They have enough real money to buy up all the smaller businesses. They love economic downturns like this, and it’s possible that Trump is simply a fanboy simp who is voluntarily taking Russian advice and example. It’s also important to say this because it means the stupid, zero-memory US citizens need to understand that it will continue even with Trump gone and even if Russia disappears.
He’s not doing this because of blackmail, he’s doing this because he wants to.
What’s that flushing sound I hear? Oh, it’s just the US economy.
He'll raise taxes on Americans again too, if Canada doesnt shape up!
He just really likes raising taxes.
This shit is ominous. This demon is ready to invade and take control of the Québec-Windsor corridor.
I think Ontario has already paused the Export tax unfortunately. But I would absolutely call his bluff. An attack on Canada would mean a full-blown article 5 crisis before Trump has all of the cards that he wants. While he might be that stupid. Others in his administration aren't.
Just in case, a good show from Carney would be to deploy the military to the area because of an increased threat of terrorism.
What Trump can or can't do is absolutely meaningless to him. He doesn't care. Chaos is the point.
Legally, no. But why should he follow the rules when he's gotten off for every other crime he's committed?
He'll pull out of NATO 5 minutes before his troops cross the border
Yes, but actually maybe
Then it’ll be FLQ 2 electric boogaloo
Yeah well, if he thinks he'll win long term against Québec, he's not ready for reality 😂
He’s just like Putin, he won’t do shit.
I mean, the US has been a major violator of human rights for...decades? Longer? Since it's inception possibly? I mean just look at their prison system. Or the whole Guantanamo thing. Or the ICE concentration camps.
Bring it.
The issue isn't so much that most Canadians don't like war, it's that war is on our doorstep and all the efforts we've made to avoid it haven't worked.
I know a couple of men who can't be reasoned with or cajoled into doing what's right. They're the type who will murder someone because they felt offended.
That's what Trump is like as well. There is no half-way, no compromise. It's his way or the highway. So essentially we have little to no choice in the matter. We either fight or we become the 51st state (or more likely a territory that has zero say in gov't but who are taxed like they do).
Nobody wants bloodshed, but if the US brings it, we will make sure there is as much American blood spilled as possible.
Thats war. Nobody wants war, but if you bring it to our soil we will fight. That simple.
Im pretty sure Putin did shit.
He's gonna fucking invade, isn't he?
The USA needs congressional approval to officially go to war against another sovereign nation. Like with Afghanistan or Iraq. BUT Republicans control the house and Senate, and sure if they're that fucking delusional they could vote for it. But with that being said, it would 100% rip America apart and they fucking deserve it. Not only would we not put up with that shit and I would gladly shoot any foreign soldier on our land, it would mean the Russians getting exactly what they wanted.
Americans reading this, GET YOUR FUCKING SHIT TOGETHER or you or your friends are going to start fucking dying on our fucking land for no other reason than a fat orange fucks vanity. You will be ostracized by the developed world and I for one will never fucking forgive you.
They voted for this. So I don't have any sympathy for them saying Trump doesn't represent them. He does. They go on and on about how they're the greatest country in the world, and how their government is 'of the people, by the people, for the people'. They're more responsible for the actions of their government than any other nation is for theirs.
And the American mentality is that their pride will never let them admit if they're wrong. So even though they may know that talks of annexation and taking away our country are beyond offensive, they can't say it. They have to say that it's for some greater good that no one else can see, even if they know it's BS. But the problem is, short of NATO putting troops in our country to help fight off an invasion, I don't know what would stop the US from just trying to take whatever they want in the name of 'freedom'. And the funny thing is, on the Cato Human Freedom Index, which measures a person's person, economic and civil freedom, we rank higher than the US. We're #11, and the US, the leader of the free world, is #17. So how are they the 'freest nation' in the world? Why would we downgrade ourselves by joining them? We wouldn't. No one would. Unless it was by force.
I've said this before, and I meant it then; the mentality of the US is that they're basically a r***** telling their victim that if they lay down and let them (USA) have their way with them, they won't get hurt. THAT's the US right now. They're our neighbours, but they're NOT our friends. And they probably never were. They just finished hurting other nations, and decided to turn their attention to us.
Yup. But there is zero fucking chance we would let them take this place willy nilly. I will die before I yield any land to these facist thugs. As our countrymen and women fought before us, we will remain the true north strong and free, or we will DIE to defend it. The dreams of this great country of ours will never die
Absolutely. I honestly think one of their reasons for talking about annexation, and why our country, isn't 'viable', is because they know our country is better than theirs. But rather than try to course correct aspects of their own nation that they know are messed up, they'd rather tear down ours. It's pride and their inferiority complex.
They keep going on about how they're the 'greatest country in the world', but they have things happen in their country that don't happen in Canada, like mass shootings, school shootings, class inequality, poor or non-existent social safety nets, and a culture of needing someone to hate, or 'other'. The US says that those bad things that happen in their country are unfortunate, but unavoidable in the 'freest country in the world', yet, right next to them, on their northern border, is our country. Canada. A country that ranks higher than theirs on the Cato Human Freedom Index.
A country that doesn't have school and mass shootings anywhere near the scale they do. Do we have inequality? Yes, but not to the same extent they do. We have more social programs that, while not perfect, do work to try and protect the more vulnerable. And our health care is seen as a right, rather than a for profit business model.
Our very presence next to them is a contradiction to their argument that
they're they best in the world, (they're not) and
that whatever horrible things that do go on in their country, would happen in any other western nation. (they don't).
They have to try and undercut and undermine us. It's the only way they can convince their own people that they're still the best; by kicking down and trying to tear down any country that isn't as messed up as theirs.
As an American who has avoided joining the American military because I've been afraid of dying in a war, I'm almost leaning into wanting to join the Canadian military at this point. As I'm much less afraid of dying now that I'm nigh suicidal and Canadian sovereignty sounds like a viable cause to actually fight for.
Remember kids, we're one of the reasons the Geneva Conventions exist. A surrendering soldier is a dead one.
It's never a war crime the first time
Previous presidents have famously committed acts of war without the consent of congress. Including assassinations and drone strikes on civilians.
Oh 100%. But for a full fledged WAR? It takes a lot of congressional and public will power to do that. Just saying that for them to go ahead and declare war so easily with zero public insight, would cause them to rip themselves apart
The US has not "declared war" in decades. That's early 20th century talk.
The National Post is a US billionaire owned right wing propaganda rag that most Canadians wouldn't wipe their ass with. If they're saying this it's a warning that should be heeded.
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/braid-invading-canada-would-spark-guerrilla-fight-lasting-decades-expert-says
We are a large, rugged country with huge areas to hide in full of large rugged people with guns.
Okay, but, so? We're still occupied. People still died. Survivors are still traumatized. If it gets to the point where we're living in caves on the escarpment and doing guerilla raids on Hamilton, WE HAVE ALREADY FUCKING LOST EVERYTHING OF IMPORTANCE. Get guns, fine, but I'll be filling out my application for refugee status.
Some people hide under the skirts of old women. Others fight. I won't fight for oil or profits but I will fight to defend the best country in the world.
A l9t of people will. And a significant minority will not. Those people will make Afghanistan and Iraq look like a cakewalk, with the notable additions of a bunch of insurgents who can blend into their territory and share a huge border with them. The guerilla warfare won't be limited to Hamilton, it will spread across America.
He clearly wants Canada, but it's not clear he wants it that bad. If he thinks more expensive electricity is a nasty move he's probably not too hot about stuff and people blowing up.
I suspect the next few months will be a lot like the past one for Canada. Not better or worse.
It's difficult to invade when in a recession and you have to deploy military against your own citizens to protect Tesla buildings.
Canada is doing some stuff as well. here is the official govt release about the move.
I’m no economist but here’s the best explanations
I read so far about what Canada is doing with this move (post-Carney’s arrival I might add).
I don't see how he could. Too many people in the U.S. like Canada, the domestic support would be near nill.
Maybe if he had 6-10 more years to drum up support.
A lot of people in the US will say they don't support it, and will speak out against it, but when the forces deploy, the American people won't do anything to stop it. They won't stage walkouts, or take actions that will cripple their economy at home in protest, because it will cause them inconvenience and pain.
They'll just say they're against it, that they're morally outraged, and will offer 'thoughts and prayers'. Nothing more.
Some of them will enlist.
The problem is this harmful and terrifying idea of annexing Canada will remain even after trump is gone. Vance is a young dude, him or whoever is the successor will advance Trunps policies and priorities, after the next president even. Canada needs to shift away from the US long term.
No, he’s not. Even if he could get congressional approval, which is highly unlikely, the military would have to comply with the order. The likelihood of that happening, I can’t even fathom.
He’s just a fat ass blow hard making noise.
Is it bad that I want him to try?
Historically, the US has never acquired territory by force, and even then Emperor Clementine would need a 2/3 majority vote in the Senate to ratify and prove the annexation was legal, which I doubt he'll get.
F*ck around and find out, as it were.
Fucking What
Was your historian a rabid white supremacist who pretends none of the Indian Wars happened, much less the Mexican or Spanish-American Wars?
No, you're absolutely correct! I meant it more along the lines of the "We take nothing by conquest" rhetoric, which is equally hypocritical considering the reality. I didn't really want to add an "/s" to the statement... Yes, the US killed a lot of people in Mexican territory, but then they made up a treaty and paid $15mil for half of the land 🤷 (heavily simplified).
But it's 2025, and I'm honestly not sure if the geopolitical climate is in a better or worse state than it was 170 years ago. And if not worse on average, it's definitely widely polarized.
Yes, it's bad. We'd lose. Maybe they'd lose too, but if so it's going to involve Taliban-like timelines and Afghanistan-like living conditions that whole time.
Yeah, as much as I'd like to pretend it will also prompt the Second American Civil War and swathes of military officers refusing orders I simply don't have faith in Americans to do the right thing.
It's famously a lot easier to "just follow orders", and they only need a fraction of their forces to agree to make it happen. I highly doubt they'd fight each other on our behalf, at least.
What about all the native land, and the Mexican-American war?
Well you're not wrong, I think some dummies would say "acktually we bought it from Mexico".
I liked this article from a couple months ago on the whole situation: https://www.dal.ca/news/2025/01/09/united-states-canada-state-51st.html
I also want him to try, mostly because I think that may finally be the straw that gets someone to successfully snipe him. All it will take is some pissed off hosier with better aim than the last guy.
Hosier is from Ireland. Hoosers are from Indiana. Hosers are from Canada.
Even if he fails, our quality of life would significantly decrease. Not really wanting to become an insurgent and get my brains blown out by a delta force operator or something. Not saying we should back down in any case, but the prospect of an invasion like that is scary af.
Ya I want him to try as well. I am so fucking sick of republicans and magats dragging down the entire human race. Can you imagine what the world would be like if bush didn't steal the election from al gore? No war in the middle east, probably would have resulted is way better relations between countries all around the world. Would have resulted in more prosperity for everyone. Would have been a massive coordinated effort to fight climate change. They'd probably have healthcare by now. To this day republicans have been hell bent on destroying the world. I hope they come to Canada. Wiping them out would be the highest possible purpose my life could ever serve. Even if I could only take out one of those magat freaks with me, it would be worth it. Lets fucking go, ill be ready.
With the statements yesterday about the “artificially drawn border” it’s clear he wants southern Ontario.
Tough shit. He can't have it. The sun will expand and engulf the inner planets before I become an American.
Yep orange patheticman can’t have it.
Yes, because innocent people will die.
I dunno, is it bad that you've brainwashed yourself and are now actively radicalizing yourself? It's a judgement call.
Fuck you Trump
The only people it makes sense to, for Canada becoming a US state, is the people in the USA.
We have land and resources they need, that we are happy to sell them, year over year.
Also, just to mention, the dairy thing? Yeah, that's on dairy products beyond a certain cap. It's there to encourage the use of Canadian dairy, instead of relying on foreign dairy.... You know, so our dairy farmers don't go broke.
Looking at the records, that import limit has been hit...... Carry the one....... Yeah, exactly zero times.
🖕
Sincerely,
I'm in the US and making Canada a state makes 0 sense to me
That's fair. There's still sensible people in the USA.
I was a little unclear before, the set of people who think this makes sense is entirely within the set of people in the USA. Which doesn't and shouldn't imply that all people in the USA believe that this makes sense.
I apologize if there was any implication of lumping all Americans into the same pool of stupidity. That's an insult to you and I am sorry.
Have a good day neighbor.
Nah we're good. I totally get the intent and point. And I'm one of the ones hit by the electricity thing. Sucks, but y'all have to fight back.
Sorry about that. I'm not far from the border at Niagara falls and I know how much power is sent over the lines across the Niagara River (generally).... It's not great, and I'm sorry you have been caught in the crossfire here.
You don't want this, I can assure you, we don't want this, but it's what is happening.
I don't even think the people who voted for Trump had annexing Canada on their minds when filling out their ballots. Was it mentioned once during the campaign? I wasn't listening, I knew I wasn't gonna vote for him 9 years ago.
I mean, until last month when cross-border relations got kicked in the teeth by the diaper in chief, what did I need the State of Canada for? I had the Nation of Canada right there. It's not like we weren't hugely cooperative trade partners or anything.
To be clear, the people who want this are the American capitalists who stand to profit off of Canada's natural resources. If we were a US state it would be much easier, almost downright trivial, to move up here and take whatever they want.
Obviously, Canada, and Canadians, don't want that, and it would seem most of the US population doesn't either.
IMO, this seems like a move by the people who are puppeteering Trump around. They see an opportunity to exploit what is currently a sovereign nation, and they're going for using Trump as little more than a mouthpiece for their goals.
I guess he's also admitting to his desire of never having any new elections? As Canada would get like over 50 seats in the electoral college...
Canada would never be state. A territory of unending insurgency at best, until the US killed every last one of us.
I literally thought it was another one of his stupid speaking mistakes, like when he suggested bleach/UV inside the body (he was just repeating some stuff he didn't understand badly, and iirc he didn't keep harping on it). Kinda surprised to see he was serious about it, it makes no sense to me either.
From a trade/foreign policy perspective, no, it makes no sense. From a long term growth of the USA perspective, it makes a lot of sense. As the Earth heats up, the equator will become less habitable, and the poles will become more habitable. Canada and Greenland have a low population density because of their northern climate, they have resources that are un-extracted because it is not economical to pay someone to live on-site. Every year it gets warmer, and that land becomes more valuable.
For the record, I'm not against Canada becoming a new State, but I am against using military or economic strong-arming to sway that decision.
Trump became President and I decided to start the process to get guns.
Conservative Americans in shambles reading this as they find out that we do Infact own guns in Canada and are proud to own them. We just don't get all fucking pussy about not being able to own fully automatic ones with 50 round magazines lol.
Liberal American here, for a long time conservatives here have miscalculated how well armed many of us are. The anti-gun crowd (not to be confused with gun control) are just the vocal minority on the issue, giving the impression that liberals hate guns. My gun safe begs to differ, and I own more guns than any conservative I know.
Have you considered that you might be a leftist and not a liberal?
Don't forget to practice regularly.
Say it louder; get disqualified from gun ownership. You're not allowed to own guns because you think one day you might shoot people with them.
I GOT A GUN TO SO I CAN HUNT ANIMALS BECAUSE LEARNING TO PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE AND SHARING FOOD IS HOW WE ARE GOING TO GET THROUGH THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.
Surely you could grow more food than you can hunt.
Home and/or personal defense are perfectly valid reasons for gun ownership. I don't want to use my gun on a person but I absolutely purchased it because I think I may have to someday.
Saw this years ago and honestly couldn't be more fitting today.
I’ll cherish Trump when he’s 6 feet underground eating dirt for eternity + a day.
Hopefully this afternoon.
Bring it the fuck on yam tits. Lets fucking go. Send in your cultist freaks I can't wait to blow some yank limbs off.
Narcissistic abuser tactics, as usual. "I'll be so good to you, babe, the
beatingstariffs will stop if you become mywife51st state."The only thing that makes sense is for Trump and Musk to take a rocket car to Mars.
Honestly, Canada should shut down their border to the US period… I wish this could happen, but I feel it is unrealistic.
And get all our fucking data off Azure and AWS servers already. The fact we did this in the first place has bothered me since day 1. I don't care if the data centres are in Canada, they're owned by a foreign company and "trust me bro" isn't a security policy.
I'm for it. It will hurt, but we'll manage.
I like to keep my pension and EI benefits thank you very much.
A new poll suggests few Canadians are open to President Donald Trump’s repeated pitches for Canada to become a U.S. state, though interest in it rises among Conservative supporters and those living in Alberta.
I recently met two Albertans out here in South Korea at a bar. They were on the other side of the bar from me, and when they walked past, I greeted them as an Ontarian and offered to shake their hands. They both declined the handshake and proudly announced, "We're not on the same team."
That was a few weeks ago. I'm still disturbed by it. I knew Albertans had a reputation because of the politicking there. But I hadn't realized it would be so blatant. That same night, two South Africans happily asked me my thoughts on Trump, and I was perhaps too honest in my first statement, and they grew upset with me and insisted he was good for Canadians and South Africans, both.
I left the bar not long after. Haven't seen those four come back, so there is a bright side to the story, at least.
They refused to shake your hand because you are from Ontario? What the heck.... they need mental health care.
Yeah you don't get that in Alberta through
Well, that's comforting to hear!
Its a low taxed province, which could mean lower services. Oil fields, and trucks. It attracts the type of person that cares about themselves rather than society. (I'm generalizing of course, there are good people there also) There's a reason we call it Northern Texas, and it's just not because of the cowboy hats.
Edmonton and Calgary are, unsurprisingly more for progressive policies.
Yeah big cities, less hicks
That's just Alberta....
Angry that we're not freezing in the dark.
Lol they should fucking stay in South Korea. They are definately in the minority, it's a larger minority then most of Canadas opinion but goddamn they are still a minority. Should have told them to never fucking come back
No, I don't want them here, haha. This is my future home, I don't need that nonsense here! It's also my friend's bar, so I don't particularly want to ruin business for him. But I did talk with him about it later.
Hope those 4 are already on their planes home after their bosses realized they hired trash.
If you have to share space with them again, may I suggest bringing up what it's like being a "migrant worker in Korea"? Groceries are a little different, you miss your oven maybe, the usual foreigner small talk, but keep using the term migrant worker (or temporary foreign worker, for those racist Canucks). When they correct you with the term "expat" - as their beliefs dictate they must - ask them to explain the difference and don't let up when they deflect. Insta explody heads every time.
I'm really sorry that happened to you (and anyone else in the bar who had to witness it). Even more sorry that Korea keeps getting the dregs whose only marketable skill is their ability to speak their own language. Guaranteed, each of those assholes has at least 1 dramatic story about how really racist Koreans are against white people though (like, my coworkers weren't impressed that I can eat hot sauce, a woman wouldn't give up her seat on the bus when it was was obvious my feet hurt, nobody cares I can do the Gagnam Style dance, where's the Korean wife I was promised, etc).
My friends from Alberta are not like that. But they did get banned from Canadian Tire during covid, since they are native.
Because they're giving into Russian propaganda
as an albertan,
sorry
Stop both siding this nonsense.
That's not what is happening. I know it's upsetting that there are people who believe differently than you do. That's what this article is about: that there exist people with some truly upsetting opinions, and furthermore, that we know a bit about their demographic make up.
The more you platform them the more voice and visibility they get, which ends up drawing support for this 51st nonsense. I don’t care to learn about the ignorant mindset of traitorous pieces of shit. They should stop voting for policies and parties that privilege the rich. But they’re too dumb for even that.
How the fuck else do you hope to... no, never mind. We're not having a discussion, you're just making emotional expressions. But I will say that this model of yours that says people do these things because they are stupid or "dumb" might help you cope emotionally, but it prevents you from reaching any genuine insight.
I'm not the person you were responding to but I just wanted to make perfectly clear that you are 100% full of shit.
It doesn't give anyone ANY measure of "cope" that so many people are fucking stupid. Its terrifying, despairing, and awful. I would rather delusionally believe I could convince them of rational stances, now that would be cope.
You should probably.. idk, actually read what they said.
Treating everyone you disagree with like they're stupid is coping emotionally. Instead of taking the time to, idk discuss things with people they've written them off as dumb before they ever speak to them.
Yes, approaching discourse this way and believing that you can achieve any kind of middle ground is delusional.
You don't know fuck all how much I've done precisely that. I obsessively debated various political and economic ideologies for like a straight decade of my life in invite-only forums specifically designed for such debate. I changed my own mind over time, and changed other people's minds. I've done it.
But I promise you, the people supporting these ideas proposed by the Trump administration are not just stupid, but WILLINGLY IGNORANT for their own selfish purposes. The amount coursing hatred I feel for them burns like the accretion disc of a quasar.
They are not people I would bother to debate. They are quite literally just my enemy. Mortal enemies. I don't want middle ground with them. I want something else.
I can unequivocally say that anyone entertaining the idea of Canada as a state as a good idea - is a fucking tool. Yeah I’m going to write that off. There’s no middle ground with people too dumb to realize they would be much worse off in that scenario.
There is a very important difference between "platforming" and "reporting" and you really should to learn what it is before you start policing people.
Platforming is perhaps the wrong term, maybe "selective reporting" and "cherry picking" fits better.
Cherished. Hah.
I'll cherish commiting war crimes if it escalates.
We’ll invent some new Geneva suggestions. It’s not a war crime if it’s the first time.
When is this fat fuck gonna get it through his head that we will never be a part of the US, and there's nothing he can do about it?
This broadcasts his insecurities about being clueless how the economy or anything works, and has surrounded himself with yes men idiots that can't even bail him out of this hole he dug himself. A big tell is he is so pissed he is giving them over 4 wks to lift their electricity premium.
As an American I say Canada should just go the "we don't bargain with terrorists" approach and just cut the electric today. Call the bully's bluff.
Sad thing is is Ontario has already taken the surcharge away, because he is going down to DC to get the shake down.
I hope he comes back and just turns the power off.
Ford is loving every minute of his US media tour. I hate that he’s our spokesperson down there though.
Canada will be waiting for you fuckers!
Elbows up!
I like to remind my fellow Americans who think Canadians are push-overs that the Nazis feared fighting Canadians more than any other Allied force because of how much more relentless they were on the battlefield.
Canadians are nice, then we’re not. We are savage AF.
Take no prisoners, invent a new war crime - our motto in wars we do not want to fight
I never did beat Bear Hugger and his little woodland critter friend he kept under his cap in Title Defense Mode.
I've never been so viscerally irritated in my life. ELBOWS UP
What are the protocols/powers involved in declaring something a national emergency? Like what decision power does the president gain in that scenario?
EDIT: This site seems to cover a lot of the benefits gained and what protections are in place to limit overreach, but given the current state of affairs I can’t imagine why Congress would reign in the abuse.
Trump is desperate to be a part of Canada, huh?
Someone else said musk is prob forcing him to do it because he want to be the next president. Since he has canadian nationality he'll be able to gun for president.
Kinda crazy guess, but they are crazy so 🤷♂️
Old man shout at canada... again
Lol at there no longer being a border problem. How exactly does this change ANYTHING about guns and fentanyl crossing between Canada and the US? And whatever immigration problems Trump is complaining about would be completely moot if suddenly the entire country are now forced to become US immigrants.
Because in that syphilis riddled brain, the orange-blunder has had the brain-shart concept slip out of the diseased sections and into what passes for a consciousness, that by only having a state line, there is no border, and so he will have solved "the border crisis". This is not a rational human being we're dealing with, it's a geriatric puppet-dictator who very likely has some form of degenerative brain condition.
Is it really a "longtime tariff" when it was implemented a week ago? I guess when you have the memory of a goldfish...
He can't take a clear 'no' for an answer. No wonder he's a convicted rapist.
Trump and Republicans trying to convince Canada they'll be treated well while they're pissing all over their colony in DC right in front of everyone.
If we get in, Puerto Rico has to get in as well.
No one wants this, this old diapered man needs to go back into the home
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The dumbest part of the 51st state nonsense, is Canada is very left leaning (compared to the US, even their right wing would probably be considered on par with Democrats here imo). Making Canada the 51st state would ensure he never wins an election again, but it seems like he's not too worried about the whole election thing moving forward. I guess when you gut CISA, and probably stole the '24 election you aren't worried about getting votes..
Also, the land mass of Canada would have to make it like 10 more states. It's already 10 provinces. It's just ridiculous.
Idk, this election is very close for a Poilievre win. Pretty sure the Fox News propaganda machine would do its magic in no time.
I don't think anyone there wants to abandon their free healthcare, but you never know with these smooth brain conspiracy people.
People don't understand what's up with abandoning healthcare. Ford keeps getting re-elected...
I think they should secede and form their own union and then we can ally with them at least as close as we allied with the US. I don't wanna let them in until they've dealt with the baggage that'll come with that breakup, like the gun obsessed rednecks.
Fuck no. There are more Republicans in California than in Texas.
That's still way too many right-wingers to add to our country. It's already bad enough that we have to deal with AB and SK.
Shut the fuck up, Trump. Shut the fuck up.
But not Puerto Rico, Guam, Washington DC (at least voting rights) or any other territory that has been essentially part of the country but probably is full of brown people so they don’t get the upgrade.
This is the stupidest thing ever. If he really wants a 51st state then Puerto Rico is right there and wants to gain statehood.
Thing is, Canada doesn't want to be apart of the USA. That should tell you a ton about the state of the union. Maybe adopt the advantages the Canadians have over us? Then they might be accepting of joining.
But Canadians are proud and love their country sovereignty. They will fight to protect it. Why start a war over nothing?
Fuck Trump and anyone who supports this stupid fuck.
He's trying to normalize this by actively repeating the crazy. Not to mention that Canada itself is comprised of multiple provinces that are mostly larger than many US States, so this would be more than 51st state (sorry this bothers me a bit even with all the crazy).
Our Moron in Chief
Moron.
What is actually wrong with this asshole!?
He's a fascist
He's a demented fascist. As in he literally has dementia.
It would be faster to describe what's not wrong with him.
Extrortion 💯%
we should increase export taxes on all fronts to the US, until they agree to stop this bullshit 51st state crap etc.
I think there should be a ratcheting structure, like an additional 5.1% everytime it's mentioned publicly by his regime.
Automatic export tax for the US goes up by 100% each time their Orange Mussolini or one of his underlings says it.
Until you put your rabid dog down-fast, and hard, America is NOT welcome in Canada!
Fuck you, America!
None of those statements are supported by any facts, or data. The opposite is mostly true.
You want to manufacture an invasion?
This WILL hurt the average American more than it will us.
You voted this POS in? GET HIM THE FUCK OUT OR FUCK OFF!
Dear Trump Cabinet members,
The earlier you 25th this guy, the better chance you have of keeping your cronyism going for the foreseeable future.
I can’t think of a single troop I’ve ever met who’s had it out for Canada, quite the opposite. This whole thing is coming from one person and he didn’t campaign on it at all. This makes as much sense to Canadians as it does to Americans. No one asked for this, not even the mouth-breathing Trumpers.
Just found the response:
it's cute but no, he's fucked up enough that he might accept and I have absolutely no interest in being part of their union under any circumstances.
Yup, Canada is freer and richer* than the US.
*Note that the common measure of "economic success" is GDP, which does not include public sector or exports. As a result the country with the smallest public sector per captia and the least amount of exports looks significantly better than it actually is.
Not an actual option, of course, just to get them to remember the saying "Be careful what you wish for..."
Don't forget our three territories,, all of which need full representation...
And our provinces are so large they should each be split in 5, making us the 51-102 states.
All good, except we Canadians don’t want to be Americans. Like ever. Under any circumstance whatsoever. I’ll die Canadian.
A reverse electoral conquest would be galaxy brain levels of geopolitics
it sounds like he was writing this one handed.
Oh he definitely wanks it to the idea of being a dictator
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Cherishing people against their will has some blatant sexual assault tendencies to it. Someone should probably investigate.
He thinks of the US as a business, and is doing his usual bang-up job
The man wants to make deals, right, so make a deal. (warning I'm an American and know just enough about Canadian government to be dangerous)
"Join" the United States of America under these conditions:
Please make this deal. Our governments are all too old to work great in this age but maybe we can forge a new design fit for the 2000s if we erase most of it and start fresh.
I find it so, so funny that he has no idea how much these comments cement the desire to avoid such a thing.
Complete and utter lack of tact resulting in hardened opposition to his desired goal.
The opposite of progressive is not conservative, it's regressive. Backwards. They are regressive.
Sovereignty is non-negotiable
Ask any Canadian who's on the fence what Austria has to say about when something similar happened to them.
Make Ukraine the 51st state
It's just an old person yelling at his tv (phone).
There is no weight behind it, even if he is the President. His job is to sign here and smile for the cameras. Nothing more. He doesn't make policy or have original thoughts, he just signs it.
It's a " won't someone rid me of this meddlesome priest" issue. It's normalizing it, which is dangerous
There should be no weight behind DOGE's actions either. And yet here we are.
Canada could save the world by doing this. First off it would be 10 states, not 1 because of the 10 provinces. 9 would be farther left than any American Democrats. That's 18 new left Senators and 40+ House of Representatives all who hate Trump and the American Right wing party.
Canada representatives would be able to immediately impeach and convict Trump and Vance. The Speaker of the house would be Canadian and therefore become President. After fixing America, you could vote to secede. Republicans would vote overwhelmingly to let you go back to being Canada.
Ignoring the fact that the US government has been dismantled and replaced by a dictator, and the rule of law will be dictated by him.
NOBODY has the power to enforce the rules in government anymore! Who? WHO?
Except “The People” - en masse!
…and americans are soft and fat now and unable to resist, much less fight against a dictator who has put them under his heel.
The more I think about this, the more I unironically think it is a good idea. Canadians hate Trump. Give each province electoral votes and representatives equivalent to those of Wyoming based on population, +2 senators each. Let's break up California into 67 Wyoming-sized states, while we're at it.
What makes you think they'd give us voting rights? You never heard of Puerto Rico?
Federal representation comes with statehood. Puerto Rico regularly rejects statehood.
Fuck no. Never i don't want it, fuck that noise