Fascism was never stamped out. Wall street supported it heavily and now they fully control the us political and military machine. We came full circle. The nazi’s didnt loose the war their ideology infected those with control today. Central banks funded the third reich and those same financial institutions are still empowered and playing a part today. War and genocide / eugenics is a part of their business model.
I can’t tell if that’s a lucky coincidence or a reference, but the Alternative for Germany (AfD) are the biggest voices in support of fascism in Germany, and they just won 20% of the seats in parliament. Luckily, even the CXU won’t form a coalition with them yet, so they will hopefully not have much impact on things.
Ironically, the AfD doesn’t want to militarize against Russia (but don’t be too reassured, they do want to reinstate mandatory conscription and militarize generally, just not against daddy Putin)
AfD is a nazi party. With tied to Blood and Honor, Proud Boys, constantly yelling nazi quotes, nazi saluting in private and small meetings, copying their rethoric and imagin aso
I think the widespread political "unwavering support" for a nation committing Genocide, which is justified by the ethnicity of the people of that nation, kinda shows that some part of Fascism (the whole "people's race is what matters the most and some races are better than others") hasn't at all been stamped out.
Then there's AfD which is just taking the "if it's good to support them because of their race, then it's good to support us" step closer to Fascism.
Germany is far closer to a certain philosophy anchored on classifying one's fellow human being as worthy or unworthy depending on race than one would like to believe (certainly, I liked to believe before the political reaction there to whole Gaza thing made it too obvious to deny) - the symbols were made illegal whilst the spirit lives.
That's a very poor understanding of geopolitics. Giving more money to Rheinmetall to lobby European politicians will SURELY not decrease the possibility of war in the EU.
Yeah the Schreibtischnazis and industrial-nazis never got punished.
And not to speak of east germany who employed SS and Gestapo members in their StaSi
Sadly, the facts are not supporting your argument. Also you call it naziism which is just emberessing. American tankie i assume?
"West bad" "soviet union glory state made of marble"?
The US really is just this hateful polish guy. A solid 35% of americans would happily raze our own country than let one poor person have a subsidized lunch.
This is so funny. I just told my wife, who's Ukrainian, this joke and she burst out laughing.
Also, as Canadians. We wish there were mongol hordes we could get to invade us, through the US.
Surely Poland has been in an unlucky position between the empires of western Europe and the former Russian Empire, then again it has the same historical problems with Germany and I don't see Polish people making racist jokes against the country that committed genocide in their territory.
I really don't see what's racist about Russia in that joke. If someone's the butt of that joke it's the Polish who's willing to hurt themselve just to get back at Russia.
And there are loads of Polish jokes about Germans.
Learn the difference between xenophobia and racism, please. The difference matters for proper discussions of different topics that pertain to discrimination in general and you are clearly confusing both of them in your weak attempt at accusing someone of behaviour they never displayed while they explained a joke that is rooted in historical context.
More to the point, being against Russian dictatorship policies and historical atrocities is neither xenophobia nor is it racism.
Everyone with a functioning frontal lobe knowns the Russian people are mostly helpless under a dictatorship that practices putting opposition (civil or political) in gulags, but one cannot just "lay down and take it" if the Russians come for them, just because you pity their situation. Criticizing dictatorships is of utmost importance, feelings be damned.
Maybe it's the difference in Germany's behavior and allyship towards Poland since the transgressions. Maybe Russia has not acted in a reconciliatory way towards Poland, maybe perhaps they've still behaved as an adversary, while Germany has taken accountability and joined a strategic alliance against the same Russian aggression that unapologetically continues to threaten Poland's sovereignty
You could apply that to most EU countries though? Colonialism in Africa, invasion of Iraq, support of the US in Afghanistan, bombing of Libya and Yugoslavia, funding the genocide in Gaza... What makes the EU better? I just happen to live in Europe and I want to push MY government towards peace negotiations because it's the one I can affect
How many of these are active missions? The Special Military Operation was only supposed to take 3 days, but it's still going on.
Or do you simply have a case of «А у вас негров линчуют»? No one's excusing their own country's atrocities simply by attacking Russia's ongoing atrocity.
You know...as the battlefield becomes ever more automated, there might be a very brief window where the winged hussars could make a comeback.
Let's say you have a battlefield riddled with smart drones. They have image recognition and immediately attack anything resembling a tank or other military asset. Do you think anyone bothered to program the drones to seek out and attack a unit outfit like 18th century Polish cavalry? A charge on horseback just might be able to ride completely undisturbed through the right kind of drone-controlled battlefield.
They would be programmed to kill anything that moved just to be sure they get everything. They will be deployed like mine fields except the owners could disable them to move through the drone field.
Does that mean in 100 years it'll be Russia's turn to team up with Poland against Germany? Is that how this works now? Can't we just rock-paper-scissors best 2 of 3 instead?
Erm, Stalin did a deal with Hitler, the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact. In a secret protocol, they agreed to carve up Europe between them with the USSR to take Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Finland, Bessarabia and half of Poland. The Finland part didn't work out so well, and Hitler went on to break the pact. The details of this were proven only when it was made public during the Nuremberg trials.
Wouldnt say it was a band. Napoleon forced some of the germans, the others joined because they wanted to be on the winning side, and the poles fought with Bonaparte for their freedom
I know Charlemagne doesn't fit the definition of a Supergroup, but that's simply because when the term was coined, Christopher Lee hadn't joined any bands yet. So the creators of the term forgot to leave in the loophole that any band with Christopher Lee is also a Supergroup.
Good luck convincing our politicians not to start a war after giving Rheinmetall a taste of the 800bn budget for a project literally called REARM EUROPE.
Our politicians didn't start a war during the entirety of the Cold War, either. You might have succumbed to the fallacy of thinking that when a weapon is purchased it needs to be used to kill people.
Surely the European weapons and troops didn't kill anyone during the Vietnam war, or the Korean war, or in colonies in Africa such as Algeria, or in the Gulf war, or in Yugoslavia, or the bombing of Libya, or in Afghanistan, or in Iraq, or very recently in Gaza.
Oh sorry, forgot those don't count to you because they're brown people or Asians for the most part! Massacres and colonialism against defenceless people don't count as wars ;)
Let's make sure to start the campaign in autumn so we are deep inside Russia during the coldest parts of winter. Let's also make sure to only take light summer clothing.
I know its a joke but just to note: I'd love to see Germany "march through Poland" given the poor state of Germany's armed forces. As it is rn, Poland alone could most likely reach Russia's heart in a couple of weeks of conventional warfare and debilitate Russian critical infrastructure long before that. Barring nukes of course, which is basically all the Kremlin would have to hang on to in a full out direct confrontation given just how incompetent their armed forces have proven to be.
I hope for Canada's sake, and for the sake of NATO and the EU, that Canada puts on some big boy pants and boosts its military. I have seen a lot of talk such as yours, but the reality is that Canada's military is a joke. Canada is so far behind in it's military spending obligation for NATO that they don't even have a timeline for catching up. Canada's airforce is 1/3rd the size of France's and France is the 10th largest Airforce in the world. The Canadian Army only has 22,000 active troops while the entire Canadian Armed Forces is only around 68,000 strong.
Canada has had troops on the ground for a lot of global military events, but they've almost never fielded a significant number. In the Gulf War they had ~4,500 troops, the Coalition had >950,000 troops and 700,000 of them were from the US. In the War in Afghanistan Canada had ~40,000 troops over 13 years (Operation Enduring Freedom) and at any one point had no more than 2,500 troops deployed. Meanwhile the US had 1.9 million deployed in the same period and at it's peak had over 100,000 troops deployed at once.
Oh but we gotta talk about WW1 and WW2 because people always take it there. In WW1 Canada deployed 620,000 troops while the US deployed 4.7 million. In WW2 the Allied Powers had a combined total over over 80 million troops, the US had around 16.5 million while Canada had 1.1 million.
As an American who likes Canada and doesn't agree with the current US political direction, I absolutely hope Canada puts it's money where it's mouth is. When Russia invaded Crimea in 2014 NATO members were supposed to increase their spending to prepare to stand up to Russia and as of 2021 only 5 of the 31 states had met that goal. As of 2024 only 8 states still had not met the goal, but Canada had the special distinction of being the only member state with no timeline on when they would meet that goal.
“The Canadian public doesn’t really see the need,” said Philippe Lagassé, Barton chair at Canada’s Carleton University. “If forced to choose between defense spending, social programs or reducing taxes, defense would always come last. So there’s no political gain to meeting the pledge.”
With the US threatening to leave NATO the EU has stepped up with a rearmament plan as recently as this week, let's hope Canada does the same.
I can understand your hesitancy, but the position of “Threat to Global Peace and the World Order” has already been taken. We do have an opening for “Bastion of the Free World” and we encourage you to apply. All things considered, you would be a great fit for the role.
I work almost entirely on things that use/need the Internet, and I know enough about how it all works that..... The Internet existing in the future, is not guaranteed. At all.
If Germany had started with, and stuck to, attacking Russia, I doubt it'd have been a world war. I don't remember who all were Russia's allies at the start, but IIRC only the French were particularly fond of Russia. There weren't a lot of the usual royal contract-through-marriage, were there? Did many nobles have Russian cousins?
I'm afraid you're gonna have to come up with a specific timeframe here.
WW1? The Germany Empire wasn't really the spark for this one. The entire royalty of the continent was effectively cousins. There may be some wiggle room, but most of them were literal cousins, with Wilhelm II and Nicholas II being most notable in this context.
Nobody was 'fond' of Russia in any way. Most European nations then saw it as they do now- large, unpredictable, and territorially aggressive. France and Britain were a part of the Triple Entente not because they trusted each other, but because it was a reasonably sensible counter to the Triple Alliance.
WW2? Royal intermarriage was mostly a moot point after the first go around even in nations that managed to not get their entire lineages deposed. As for the Soviet Union, still wildly unpopular. If your point is that Nazi Germany might have gotten away with things if they'd stayed tied up with Russia instead of trying to diversify their murder portfolio- I'd disagree. They would have gotten the OK from other Western powers for a time, but would still crumple from internal strife, the war was as much a wallpapering of those issues as it was any grand ambitions of Hitler's.
I think the point is more that for WW2 the other nations would have just left them to it more. Maybe profit off the increased demand for materials. However, the war started because of Germany invading Poland, and you kinda need to go through Poland to get to the USSR.
Encourage the USSR to try and take all of Poland first, then attack back when they are getting close? Not sure tbh.
Sure, good point; I assumed we were taking about WWII because - as you point out - Germany wasn't the instigator, and OPs post seemed to imply WWII.
And I disagree about the irrelevance of noble ties at the start of WWII. Yes, most of the countries involved were no longer monarchies, but names still had weight. Take Thurn und Taxis in Germany, for instance.
I grant that by 1930 they weren't the drivers of policy, and even before that Europe's royalty were regularly going to war with their cousins. But few in the hereditary European elite had many ties to Russia.
I didn't say Germany would have won a war with Russia, only that if they had, and has stayed focused on Russia, it wouldn't have become a world war. There'd have been no "Allies".
There's a big caveat there, though, and that's Japan. Germany attacking Russia would have naturally resulted in an alliance with Japan in any case, and once America got involved now the Germans are allied against the Americans. Without the Western front, though, America could have focused all efforts on Japan and might have allied with Russia; the Pacific conflict might have been shorter, and not ended with the Bomb. But once Japan's defeated, does America continue to reinforce Russia against Japan's former allies, the Germans?
I also wonder what role Africa would have played. Germany was always going to need to go after the oil, and what alliances would have resulted from that? I don't think any of the Western countries saw Africa as anything more than a source of natural resources, so it would have been less "coming to their aid" and more "protecting our assets there".
Without an invasion of France, or aggression against the UK directly, would the UK have gotten involved, or would Chamberlain's policy held? I feel as if France, if anything, would have only dug in and fortified their borders, and watched.
The aristocrats of the western empires may have still carried weight to their names, but the Great Depression was really putting strain on the legitimacy and popularity of the established order.
As for Japan: they were already scrapping with the Soviets at the time in Khalkhin Gol. If anything the American entry to the war freed the Soviets to just a single front. American efforts in the European theater I largely take to be more "maintaining market access" to the UK and France than any real desire to be there.
France may have sat back, but I kinda doubt it. A weakened Germany after fighting the Soviets would have tempted them to retake lands east of the Rhine that they'd lost following the Napoleonic campaigns. My take is that none of the powers were peacable or invested in the status quo, just less rabid about expansion than the Nazis.
Oh, yeah. It's all wild speculation. The Germans and French have been trading land on that border for so long, there's no way Germany or France wouldn't start something at some point.
Well, yeah. That's why I qualified it with "if they had started with..." You're right, though; they couldn't have invaded Russia without first going through a couple of other countries first. They could have technically invaded Russia while minimally involving other countries by going through Poland to get to Kaliningrad Oblast. But then they'd be stuck again; they'd have to have taken Belarus to get to Moscow.
So: Poland, Belarus, and next stop: Miscow! Easy peasy. Talk the Japanese out of antagonizing the US and have them focus on Russia, with a promise to divide it. Not that the Japanese would have been much help on mainland Russia, but it'd at least give them something else to worry about.
A bunch of crazy politicians want that. The majority of people in both sides wants peace and would like their money to be spend in useful things and not giant armies.
The russian population is heavily on board with their genocide. Polish are always on board to kick russias ass, most of france, germany, skandinavia, spain and portugal and italy are too. Britain is basicly united on this as one could see in their last parliament seating where even nigle farage was all in. Turkey also stands with ukraine, island is just minding its own buisness and ireland i honestly have no idea what is going on there. BeNeLux is also on board but have their own problems intern, austria is too buissy sniffing essential oils to care, balkan mostly also against russia even serbia though they play both sides. Hungarian and slovakian leaders are the only once deepthroating russian cock
I know the difference.
If i misstyped that is my fault. English isnt my native language and i am dislexic. In my native language the two regions couldnt be spelled any more different
The russian population is heavily on board with their genocide. Polish are always on board to kick russias ass, most of france, germany, skandinavia, spain and portugal and italy are too.
That's not true at all, that's what media makes you believe. You ear macron say something and you believe all french people are down to it. The majority of people don't want any war, ask your peers irl.
Then explain why we have ammunition for 2 hours. At max 2 days, till we are out. Soldiers having to shout "Pang!" Instead of training with guns. And so much more!
Russia, both politician and population, is not backing down. they have tied their own identity to war.
this problem is not going away until its made to go away.
I assure you. You do not want to live in Russkiy Mir. (The Russian World). where most of europe is enslaved, or dead.
Russia, both politician and population, is not backing down. they have tied their own identity to war. this problem is not going away until its made to go away.
Following the same logic we should shit on every american because they elected trump. The majority of people don't want war they get brainwashed and get caught into it.
I assure you. You do not want to live in Russkiy Mir. (The Russian World). where most of europe is enslaved, or dead.
There are countries with even worst regimes like egypt or saudi arabia. Governments supporting these and waging war against russia are not in good faith. You don't want to live in any country controlled by authoritarian rulers.
Following the same logic we should shit on every american because they elected trump. The majority of people don't want war they get brainwashed and get caught into it.
We do already shit on every American. That has been covered. Thank Trump for that. Seen Tesla sales in the EU? That will never recover. never. I can't see any EU airline order a Boeing ever again. Etc.
Just like with China, he made it very clear to the EU we must do things ourself and can not depend on any American product or service ever again. Americans are untrustworthy. That's the lesson learned.
Message recieved, loud and clear.
Did you hear Macron? Starner? VdLeyden? That defense fund will be spend in the EU. not in the US. And that defense fund is only the start. Everything will follow.
Very probably an EU cloud will emerge in a few years making the reliance on MS, Google, Amazon, Oracle a thing of the past. There is a lot of talk about this now in government agencies all over the EU. The USA is untrustworthy. We cant trust them anymore with our data.
We where friends, allies. Big spenders. But apparently that was all useless.
No, a bunch of people who want Ukraines sovereignty respected want that. I don't want Germany to invade russia, this person is being hyperbolic. But Germans securing the Ukrainian border is fine.
No. Not in his footsteps as a nazi. I am faar removed from being a nazi. Litterly fight them in the democratic process and organise many demonstrations against them.
It was meant as a joke as in "my familys tradition is invading russia" -.-
Look at the comment from Goldholz answering you. He's glorifying his literal Nazi grandad. This is the type of people who want to "march on Moscow". Rethink your positions mate.
Holy shit, how did it take so long to find someone not wanting to give billions to the military industrial complex that will definitely not use that money to lobby politicians into going to war with which they make profit. Rheinmetall stocks have gone up 1300% in the past 5 years. 1300%. That's not a misspell. 1300%.
FUCK WAR, I'm not fucking throwing my body into a needless meatgrinding war between imperialist nations.
Wars are fought by people. Everyone who doesn't to end blown up somewhere in a trench in an inter imperialist struggle should be antiwar. Stop fucking beating the drums of war, we need to prevent WW3 from happening, and it's not too late to do so.
Stop cheering for military expenditure, stop electing fascist politicians in Europe, stop buying into war propaganda. We can avoid this war. Do not condemn yourself or your loved ones to passing through the meat grinder, your government doesn't give a fuck about human rights or abour your life.
Military expenditure is how you avoid war. You think Russia will only attack if Europe is strong? Bizarre..
Also, I don't think it's the fascists who want expenditure, or at least not the far right parties, they are pro russia.
Oh wow you actually believe what you are saying, this is sad.
EU was exceedingly friendly with Russia for the last 30 years, until the war happened. And no, this was not because NATO was pushing boundaries, this is nonsense. Crazy that you actually believe this.
I think Russia wouldn't attack the EU if we collectively agreed to maintain good relationships with Russia
That's pretty much France and especially Germany's playbook for Russian relations for the past few decades though. It seemed to work well until it suddenly didn't, so we're gonna have to try the other way
The EU funded genocide in Palestine for committing the cardinal sin of existing though, what's your point? Russia surely sucks, so does Europe, I don't wanna fucking die in the front lines and neither do you, so stop warmongering
Lol "Europe is fascists pieces of shit", you heard it here first folks. No, Israel is the fascist pieces of shit and they can take full responsibility.
You cannot make peace with someone that wants to annex you, control you or genocide you. Do you say the same to beaten wives so they don't divorce their husband?
Come on now. Let's not pretend there aren't limits to negotiation with a violent person that refuses to stop being violent. No matter how many times you tell them, "No no, bad, baaaad! Killing baad! Genocide baaad!" To reform them, if they keep doing it: They have no respect for you and respect, last I checked, is a mutual two way street.
In such cases, the bully (murderer in this case) needs to be checked in the guts hard enough to submit, because that bully doesn't want to change and since we can't imprison the damn psychopath and he refuses to stop, teaching him a lesson will have to happen sooner or later.
I'll also leave this paragraph here for no particular reason
In 1994, Ukraine agreed to transfer these [nukes] to Russia for dismantlement and became a party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, in exchange for economic compensation and assurances from Russia, the United States and United Kingdom to respect the Ukrainian independence and sovereignty in the existing borders.
Peace is a cooperative effort. Warfare can be conducted unilaterally. Unless you can stop him on his terms, what you want is completely irrelevant to the negotiations.
The meaning behind that Latin aphorism predates civilization. It is the reason so many herbivorous animals evolved horns or antlers.
Being anti war when Russia is around is essentially the same thing as being pro Russia, because they're willing and able to use violent force to get what they want, and if you're not willing to defend yourself, you will be subjugated.
As I said before, Russia doesn't truly do diplomacy, if they do it's just to keep you distracted. The only language they truly respect is that of force, and they've shown that over hundreds of years.
Yep. A lot of Nazi leaders began making their connections with the west as it became obvious that the USSR was winning in the Eastern front as well as Operation Paperclip, etc.
Ahh polandball. I missed these
These always remind me that I'm a dumb American.
We can stand to be roasted more then a little bit.
That may help us with our fat problem. I hear heat renders fat into liquid grease.....
You hear? You have to experience it. Roasting isn't just good for meat, it's great for a lot of veggies... and arrogant assholes too!
The irony being that Poland doesn't have border controls towards Germany, but Germany has illegal border controls towards Poland though.
Just because almost every party decided to go full populist "Screw the people and the economy, there might be Muslim terrorists in Poland"
This would be much more concerning if they hadn't so thoroughly stamped out fascism. What's the alternative for Germany?
Fascism is back on the rise there, unfortunately.
I thought my little AfD reference at the end would give me away.
I thought it was clear
Fascism was never stamped out. Wall street supported it heavily and now they fully control the us political and military machine. We came full circle. The nazi’s didnt loose the war their ideology infected those with control today. Central banks funded the third reich and those same financial institutions are still empowered and playing a part today. War and genocide / eugenics is a part of their business model.
If only there were a list of names... and addresses...
Hey, hey psst... if you need some... wink wink, nudge nudge
Ugh why is it that they always resemble root vegetables?
Behold: the Master Race
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I can’t tell if that’s a lucky coincidence or a reference, but the Alternative for Germany (AfD) are the biggest voices in support of fascism in Germany, and they just won 20% of the seats in parliament. Luckily, even the CXU won’t form a coalition with them yet, so they will hopefully not have much impact on things.
Ironically, the AfD doesn’t want to militarize against Russia (but don’t be too reassured, they do want to reinstate mandatory conscription and militarize generally, just not against daddy Putin)
AfD is a nazi party. With tied to Blood and Honor, Proud Boys, constantly yelling nazi quotes, nazi saluting in private and small meetings, copying their rethoric and imagin aso
I think the widespread political "unwavering support" for a nation committing Genocide, which is justified by the ethnicity of the people of that nation, kinda shows that some part of Fascism (the whole "people's race is what matters the most and some races are better than others") hasn't at all been stamped out.
Then there's AfD which is just taking the "if it's good to support them because of their race, then it's good to support us" step closer to Fascism.
Germany is far closer to a certain philosophy anchored on classifying one's fellow human being as worthy or unworthy depending on race than one would like to believe (certainly, I liked to believe before the political reaction there to whole Gaza thing made it too obvious to deny) - the symbols were made illegal whilst the spirit lives.
Not totally. Fascism did take over 20% of the vote in last month’s election.
The alternative is to not build a giant army and use the money in something more useful that will benefit germans and humanity
And whenever Russia wants some land it's just handed over?
Only if you believe the government and a bunch of corrupted politicians who never fought a war will save you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerrilla_warfare
That's a very poor understanding of geopolitics. Giving more money to Rheinmetall to lobby European politicians will SURELY not decrease the possibility of war in the EU.
Germany was never fully denazified. There's a reason the New Left in Germany was so militant. Kiesinger was in the Nazi Party!
Yeah the Schreibtischnazis and industrial-nazis never got punished. And not to speak of east germany who employed SS and Gestapo members in their StaSi
Sadly, the facts are not supporting your argument. Also you call it naziism which is just emberessing. American tankie i assume? "West bad" "soviet union glory state made of marble"?
Thoroughly?
Supporting companies? ...
Poland has been pouring everything into their military, they are VERY ready for this to all go sideways. I can't blame them.
Yeah they have a history of things going sideways around them given the location
Also the location of Poland was going sideways multiple times in history
Honestly, if they’d finessed their phrasing a little, that could have been a really good answer.
Yeah they phrased it pretty badly, at least from an English pov, don't know how good the translation is.
If it were up to me i would have only 3 conditions to allow poland go wild towards vladivostok
Their next cavalry charge towards enemy tanks is almost ready!
Can we call humans riding other humans or donkeys cavalry?
Like a fetish thing?
Good.
It reminds me of an old Polish joke:
A Pole finds a magic lamp, strokes it, and a genie comes out.
"I will grant you three wishes. They can be anything your heart desire."
"I wish for the Mongols to invade Poland!'
"Ok? It is done"
The Mongol hordes sweep through Poland, ransack the country, then go back the way they came.
"I am ready for my second wish. I want the Mongols to invade Poland again!"
"Are you sure? I can give you anything your heart wishes."
"Yes. I am sure"
The Mongols come again, do some more pillaging, and return home.
"And now for my third wish. I want the Mongol hordes to invade Poland a third time."
"Are you really sure?"
"Yes."
"Okay. Before I grant you your wish, would you mind explaining me why you would want that not once but thrice?"
"It's very simple: Whenever the Mongols come to Poland they have to cross Russia twice!"
The US really is just this hateful polish guy. A solid 35% of americans would happily raze our own country than let one poor person have a subsidized lunch.
This is so funny. I just told my wife, who's Ukrainian, this joke and she burst out laughing.
Also, as Canadians. We wish there were mongol hordes we could get to invade us, through the US.
Mongols. Mongols would need to cross both Russia and US.
Well afaik the last in date were your country :p
Haha russophobia funi
It's more of a Polish grudge funny though.
Poland has a bit of a history with Russia too.
Surely Poland has been in an unlucky position between the empires of western Europe and the former Russian Empire, then again it has the same historical problems with Germany and I don't see Polish people making racist jokes against the country that committed genocide in their territory.
I really don't see what's racist about Russia in that joke. If someone's the butt of that joke it's the Polish who's willing to hurt themselve just to get back at Russia.
And there are loads of Polish jokes about Germans.
"An unlucky position" that's putting it mildly.
It's not racist. People forget "Russian" is a nationality, not a race. Russia isn't just populated by Slavs (much to the chagrin of Putin, I assume).
Imho discriminating against a nationality is still racism. e.g. WW2 anti-japanese racism in the US.
Russia has a very colonial attitude toward its non slavic citizens.
Learn the difference between xenophobia and racism, please. The difference matters for proper discussions of different topics that pertain to discrimination in general and you are clearly confusing both of them in your weak attempt at accusing someone of behaviour they never displayed while they explained a joke that is rooted in historical context.
More to the point, being against Russian dictatorship policies and historical atrocities is neither xenophobia nor is it racism.
Everyone with a functioning frontal lobe knowns the Russian people are mostly helpless under a dictatorship that practices putting opposition (civil or political) in gulags, but one cannot just "lay down and take it" if the Russians come for them, just because you pity their situation. Criticizing dictatorships is of utmost importance, feelings be damned.
Maybe it's the difference in Germany's behavior and allyship towards Poland since the transgressions. Maybe Russia has not acted in a reconciliatory way towards Poland, maybe perhaps they've still behaved as an adversary, while Germany has taken accountability and joined a strategic alliance against the same Russian aggression that unapologetically continues to threaten Poland's sovereignty
I wasn't aware Russian was a race.
And if you knew anything about history you'd understand why Poland feels particularly strongly towards Russia.
Germany made amends and stopped the warmongering. Russia has demonstrated that they will not.
It isn't that complicated.
As long as russia keeps invading countries it has no business being in, it is extremely funny.
yankees get very mad when you make a similar point about drone striking east asia
You could apply that to most EU countries though? Colonialism in Africa, invasion of Iraq, support of the US in Afghanistan, bombing of Libya and Yugoslavia, funding the genocide in Gaza... What makes the EU better? I just happen to live in Europe and I want to push MY government towards peace negotiations because it's the one I can affect
How many of these are active missions? The Special Military Operation was only supposed to take 3 days, but it's still going on.
Or do you simply have a case of «А у вас негров линчуют»? No one's excusing their own country's atrocities simply by attacking Russia's ongoing atrocity.
There is russian similar joke abour genie that grants wishes, but your neighbour gets twice of that. One of dude's wishes was to poke his eye.
Tbf Poland would be joining them this time around.
They're allowed to take out one German tank with light cavalry, for old time's sake.
You know...as the battlefield becomes ever more automated, there might be a very brief window where the winged hussars could make a comeback.
Let's say you have a battlefield riddled with smart drones. They have image recognition and immediately attack anything resembling a tank or other military asset. Do you think anyone bothered to program the drones to seek out and attack a unit outfit like 18th century Polish cavalry? A charge on horseback just might be able to ride completely undisturbed through the right kind of drone-controlled battlefield.
THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED
COMING DOWN THEY TURNED THE TIDE
Ukranian drones are already equipped to target the latest Russian logistic vehicles, donkeys.
You could submit this plan to ![email protected]
I didn't know this existed and you just made my life
They would be programmed to kill anything that moved just to be sure they get everything. They will be deployed like mine fields except the owners could disable them to move through the drone field.
Do you want your drones to burn through their numbers attacking deer and birds? That's what happens if you set them to attack anything.
I can see the Onion headline: High-Tech Warfare not as simple as military genius on the internet thought
The moment they are activated they'll just blow each other up. Could be fun to watch.
Indeed, never provision your killbots with a pre-set kill limit. There's a well-known strategy to deal with that.
Okay well I'm just going to air blast gravel at them then.
Or you could just get a big block of lead and mount it on a remote controlled chassis and just drive it around. At 6 mi an hour.
Especially with these wings!
Last time Russia and Germany invaded Poland together. Presumably this would be Germany and Poland invading Russia.
Does that mean in 100 years it'll be Russia's turn to team up with Poland against Germany? Is that how this works now? Can't we just rock-paper-scissors best 2 of 3 instead?
Erm, Stalin did a deal with Hitler, the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact. In a secret protocol, they agreed to carve up Europe between them with the USSR to take Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Finland, Bessarabia and half of Poland. The Finland part didn't work out so well, and Hitler went on to break the pact. The details of this were proven only when it was made public during the Nuremberg trials.
They did last time too, just not quite as voluntarily
Ukrainians: "the Germans are here to liberate us from the Russian yoke. And they actually mean it this time!"
Same nazis as they were
Poland: "What about attacking Russia alongside with an ally?"
Aye, I could do that.
Germany: "i thought these days would never come again. Fighting russia with poland and france like we did late 1700s and early 1800s"
The original band coming back for one more single.
Wouldnt say it was a band. Napoleon forced some of the germans, the others joined because they wanted to be on the winning side, and the poles fought with Bonaparte for their freedom
So like a supergroup. Like the Highwaymen.
🎶"I wore a picklehaube, on the Rhineland I did ride..." 🎶
🎵🎶 I spilled the blood of the Saxon men🎶🎵
I know Charlemagne doesn't fit the definition of a Supergroup, but that's simply because when the term was coined, Christopher Lee hadn't joined any bands yet. So the creators of the term forgot to leave in the loophole that any band with Christopher Lee is also a Supergroup.
No thank you. Defensive alliance, sure. But not attacking. We're supposed to be the good guys, after all.
Good luck convincing our politicians not to start a war after giving Rheinmetall a taste of the 800bn budget for a project literally called REARM EUROPE.
Our politicians didn't start a war during the entirety of the Cold War, either. You might have succumbed to the fallacy of thinking that when a weapon is purchased it needs to be used to kill people.
Surely the European weapons and troops didn't kill anyone during the Vietnam war, or the Korean war, or in colonies in Africa such as Algeria, or in the Gulf war, or in Yugoslavia, or the bombing of Libya, or in Afghanistan, or in Iraq, or very recently in Gaza.
Oh sorry, forgot those don't count to you because they're brown people or Asians for the most part! Massacres and colonialism against defenceless people don't count as wars ;)
Oh, I'm a racist now for not wanting to be invaded? Get the fuck outta here.
I am ok if Europe wants to send troops to Canada to defend against the real enemy—the United States.
I was going to joke "I'll send y'all intel," but now I'm seriously considering if my country will use that statement against me some day.
I am joking NSA/DOGE, of course.
I don’t want intel, AMD is better imo.
Too late the van is already on its way
As an American I fully support this. We don't want to invade Canada either. Just the Orange Idiot and his bootlickers.
*Occupied States
If it comes to it, there won't be a conventional battle. We will take them out from within.
In the wise words of the Arrogant Worms, "We'll take a boat to Washingtooooooon! And burn the White House twice!"
Pls do, our army wouldn’t last more than a day against the US
USA = U Stand Alone.
As an American, I stand for this. You’ll never see me fight any country besides the enemy within the US.
I'll come to defend the indiginous people from Canadians stealing and polluting their land.
Its funny but yes we want a functioning Democracy to defend other democracies.
Exactly! It’s a pretty radical concept these days, I know.
Germany starts world war 3
The rest of the world: “how do we keep falling for this?”
"Ww3 this time we're the good guys!" Smaller print "We've double checked and had it put in writing."
The only requirement to be a good guy is to win.
Everyone loves a good heel-face turn though
First John Cena then Germany
John Cena would be the US in this example. Sudden unexpected face-heel turn
Is this Jon Stewart's account?
"The hammer is my penis"
I call it the gavel sometimes, especially when I am in robes
You guys have the most experience with that sort of thing
It kind of reminds me of Terminator 2; where its essentially the exact same story is T1 except this time the previous bad guy is the good guy.
Let's make sure to start the campaign in autumn so we are deep inside Russia during the coldest parts of winter. Let's also make sure to only take light summer clothing.
That sort of idea seems great when everyone is taking Pervitin all the time.
Pervitin, the brand name that Meth was originally sold under.
That's so yesterday. Now we use modafinil!
Legal meth? Sign me up!
The Nazi army used a lot of drugs: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/29429893-blitzed
As we know, you should always fight a land war in Asia.
At least were not going up against the Sicilians
Inconceivable!
You keep using that word...I do not think it means what you think it means.
Ya know, what with global warming this might actually work.
I know its a joke but just to note: I'd love to see Germany "march through Poland" given the poor state of Germany's armed forces. As it is rn, Poland alone could most likely reach Russia's heart in a couple of weeks of conventional warfare and debilitate Russian critical infrastructure long before that. Barring nukes of course, which is basically all the Kremlin would have to hang on to in a full out direct confrontation given just how incompetent their armed forces have proven to be.
I'll have you know that we are perfectly capable to march through allied territory... as long as they have well developed infrastructure
...which complicates marching through Germany
True
Amazing trains you got in Germany :p
The trains are great, everything else around them not so much
That just means we need to give Poland nukes
Wait, did people start doing parkour outside windows without previous training again?
Yeah, we know, irony is dead. But if the world made sense then the Orange Idiot wouldn't be in charge.
I'm sure if it came to it, Canada would send some good folks along as well.
We might get a bit busy but I'm sure we can spare one or two war crimes their way.
I hope for Canada's sake, and for the sake of NATO and the EU, that Canada puts on some big boy pants and boosts its military. I have seen a lot of talk such as yours, but the reality is that Canada's military is a joke. Canada is so far behind in it's military spending obligation for NATO that they don't even have a timeline for catching up. Canada's airforce is 1/3rd the size of France's and France is the 10th largest Airforce in the world. The Canadian Army only has 22,000 active troops while the entire Canadian Armed Forces is only around 68,000 strong.
Canada has had troops on the ground for a lot of global military events, but they've almost never fielded a significant number. In the Gulf War they had ~4,500 troops, the Coalition had >950,000 troops and 700,000 of them were from the US. In the War in Afghanistan Canada had ~40,000 troops over 13 years (Operation Enduring Freedom) and at any one point had no more than 2,500 troops deployed. Meanwhile the US had 1.9 million deployed in the same period and at it's peak had over 100,000 troops deployed at once.
Oh but we gotta talk about WW1 and WW2 because people always take it there. In WW1 Canada deployed 620,000 troops while the US deployed 4.7 million. In WW2 the Allied Powers had a combined total over over 80 million troops, the US had around 16.5 million while Canada had 1.1 million.
As an American who likes Canada and doesn't agree with the current US political direction, I absolutely hope Canada puts it's money where it's mouth is. When Russia invaded Crimea in 2014 NATO members were supposed to increase their spending to prepare to stand up to Russia and as of 2021 only 5 of the 31 states had met that goal. As of 2024 only 8 states still had not met the goal, but Canada had the special distinction of being the only member state with no timeline on when they would meet that goal.
In a Politico article from last year
With the US threatening to leave NATO the EU has stepped up with a rearmament plan as recently as this week, let's hope Canada does the same.
As an American citizen who hates Donald. I’ll go to Canada and say, “sign me up! I’ll join your military.”
Anything to get rid of Donald and his goons.
Hey, they might actually manage the cold! This is brilliant!
I can understand your hesitancy, but the position of “Threat to Global Peace and the World Order” has already been taken. We do have an opening for “Bastion of the Free World” and we encourage you to apply. All things considered, you would be a great fit for the role.
It might work this time!
Alternative you could go by boat, but I'd advice is to travel by land because I expect Poland will join you. (or it's just I'm hoping they will)
Assuming the internet exists in the future...
It's a bold assumption.
I work almost entirely on things that use/need the Internet, and I know enough about how it all works that..... The Internet existing in the future, is not guaranteed. At all.
Same.... it's a weird space to be in mentally.
If Germany had started with, and stuck to, attacking Russia, I doubt it'd have been a world war. I don't remember who all were Russia's allies at the start, but IIRC only the French were particularly fond of Russia. There weren't a lot of the usual royal contract-through-marriage, were there? Did many nobles have Russian cousins?
I'm afraid you're gonna have to come up with a specific timeframe here.
WW1? The Germany Empire wasn't really the spark for this one. The entire royalty of the continent was effectively cousins. There may be some wiggle room, but most of them were literal cousins, with Wilhelm II and Nicholas II being most notable in this context.
Nobody was 'fond' of Russia in any way. Most European nations then saw it as they do now- large, unpredictable, and territorially aggressive. France and Britain were a part of the Triple Entente not because they trusted each other, but because it was a reasonably sensible counter to the Triple Alliance.
WW2? Royal intermarriage was mostly a moot point after the first go around even in nations that managed to not get their entire lineages deposed. As for the Soviet Union, still wildly unpopular. If your point is that Nazi Germany might have gotten away with things if they'd stayed tied up with Russia instead of trying to diversify their murder portfolio- I'd disagree. They would have gotten the OK from other Western powers for a time, but would still crumple from internal strife, the war was as much a wallpapering of those issues as it was any grand ambitions of Hitler's.
I think the point is more that for WW2 the other nations would have just left them to it more. Maybe profit off the increased demand for materials. However, the war started because of Germany invading Poland, and you kinda need to go through Poland to get to the USSR.
Encourage the USSR to try and take all of Poland first, then attack back when they are getting close? Not sure tbh.
Sure, good point; I assumed we were taking about WWII because - as you point out - Germany wasn't the instigator, and OPs post seemed to imply WWII.
And I disagree about the irrelevance of noble ties at the start of WWII. Yes, most of the countries involved were no longer monarchies, but names still had weight. Take Thurn und Taxis in Germany, for instance.
I grant that by 1930 they weren't the drivers of policy, and even before that Europe's royalty were regularly going to war with their cousins. But few in the hereditary European elite had many ties to Russia.
I didn't say Germany would have won a war with Russia, only that if they had, and has stayed focused on Russia, it wouldn't have become a world war. There'd have been no "Allies".
There's a big caveat there, though, and that's Japan. Germany attacking Russia would have naturally resulted in an alliance with Japan in any case, and once America got involved now the Germans are allied against the Americans. Without the Western front, though, America could have focused all efforts on Japan and might have allied with Russia; the Pacific conflict might have been shorter, and not ended with the Bomb. But once Japan's defeated, does America continue to reinforce Russia against Japan's former allies, the Germans?
I also wonder what role Africa would have played. Germany was always going to need to go after the oil, and what alliances would have resulted from that? I don't think any of the Western countries saw Africa as anything more than a source of natural resources, so it would have been less "coming to their aid" and more "protecting our assets there".
Without an invasion of France, or aggression against the UK directly, would the UK have gotten involved, or would Chamberlain's policy held? I feel as if France, if anything, would have only dug in and fortified their borders, and watched.
The aristocrats of the western empires may have still carried weight to their names, but the Great Depression was really putting strain on the legitimacy and popularity of the established order.
As for Japan: they were already scrapping with the Soviets at the time in Khalkhin Gol. If anything the American entry to the war freed the Soviets to just a single front. American efforts in the European theater I largely take to be more "maintaining market access" to the UK and France than any real desire to be there.
France may have sat back, but I kinda doubt it. A weakened Germany after fighting the Soviets would have tempted them to retake lands east of the Rhine that they'd lost following the Napoleonic campaigns. My take is that none of the powers were peacable or invested in the status quo, just less rabid about expansion than the Nazis.
Oh, yeah. It's all wild speculation. The Germans and French have been trading land on that border for so long, there's no way Germany or France wouldn't start something at some point.
#PATTON WAS RIGHT
Pretty sure that last time they had already taken a couple other countries before heading to Russia. Stopping at Russia was already too late.
Well, yeah. That's why I qualified it with "if they had started with..." You're right, though; they couldn't have invaded Russia without first going through a couple of other countries first. They could have technically invaded Russia while minimally involving other countries by going through Poland to get to Kaliningrad Oblast. But then they'd be stuck again; they'd have to have taken Belarus to get to Moscow.
So: Poland, Belarus, and next stop: Miscow! Easy peasy. Talk the Japanese out of antagonizing the US and have them focus on Russia, with a promise to divide it. Not that the Japanese would have been much help on mainland Russia, but it'd at least give them something else to worry about.
Deutschland über alles!
"the entire western world"
A bunch of crazy politicians want that. The majority of people in both sides wants peace and would like their money to be spend in useful things and not giant armies.
The russian population is heavily on board with their genocide. Polish are always on board to kick russias ass, most of france, germany, skandinavia, spain and portugal and italy are too. Britain is basicly united on this as one could see in their last parliament seating where even nigle farage was all in. Turkey also stands with ukraine, island is just minding its own buisness and ireland i honestly have no idea what is going on there. BeNeLux is also on board but have their own problems intern, austria is too buissy sniffing essential oils to care, balkan mostly also against russia even serbia though they play both sides. Hungarian and slovakian leaders are the only once deepthroating russian cock
Baltics -> Balkan. Baltics is Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. They are also preparing for the worst though it's just that Serbia isn't part of it
I know the difference. If i misstyped that is my fault. English isnt my native language and i am dislexic. In my native language the two regions couldnt be spelled any more different
No worries! 😁
That's not true at all, that's what media makes you believe. You ear macron say something and you believe all french people are down to it. The majority of people don't want any war, ask your peers irl.
We dont want war yes but see clearly that putin musst be stopped and europe needs to remilitarize.
Russias population as proven in many phone calls that have been publiciced and many interviews with russian people show they support their genocide
Are you aware that EU countries already spend billions on war and that combined they triple russia spending?
I am yes. But speaking for my country, germany, our military is SHIT needs reform, new equipment, more ammo aso aso. That stuff aint cheep
You country germany already spend billions on war
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_highest_military_expenditures
Then explain why we have ammunition for 2 hours. At max 2 days, till we are out. Soldiers having to shout "Pang!" Instead of training with guns. And so much more!
We dont spend shit on military
Russia, both politician and population, is not backing down. they have tied their own identity to war. this problem is not going away until its made to go away.
I assure you. You do not want to live in Russkiy Mir. (The Russian World). where most of europe is enslaved, or dead.
Following the same logic we should shit on every american because they elected trump. The majority of people don't want war they get brainwashed and get caught into it.
There are countries with even worst regimes like egypt or saudi arabia. Governments supporting these and waging war against russia are not in good faith. You don't want to live in any country controlled by authoritarian rulers.
We do already shit on every American. That has been covered. Thank Trump for that. Seen Tesla sales in the EU? That will never recover. never. I can't see any EU airline order a Boeing ever again. Etc.
Just like with China, he made it very clear to the EU we must do things ourself and can not depend on any American product or service ever again. Americans are untrustworthy. That's the lesson learned. Message recieved, loud and clear.
Did you hear Macron? Starner? VdLeyden? That defense fund will be spend in the EU. not in the US. And that defense fund is only the start. Everything will follow.
Very probably an EU cloud will emerge in a few years making the reliance on MS, Google, Amazon, Oracle a thing of the past. There is a lot of talk about this now in government agencies all over the EU. The USA is untrustworthy. We cant trust them anymore with our data.
We where friends, allies. Big spenders. But apparently that was all useless.
Instead of shitting on everyone try to understand where the problem is
No, a bunch of people who want Ukraines sovereignty respected want that. I don't want Germany to invade russia, this person is being hyperbolic. But Germans securing the Ukrainian border is fine.
Nah, I would enjoy a march on Moscow.
So would i!
My greatgrandpa marched to stalingrand (and survived i even met him for 8 years) My greatgreatgrandpa marched against the tzar
And i know of one that walked with napoleon in the bavarian army against russia.
Got to keep family Tradition up! (Eventhough i am not allowed in the military to serve. I would still help out as nurse or cook for the troops)
So your grandaddy is a literal fucking Nazi and you wanna follow his steps? Mods please, permaban this disgusting nazi scum?
No. Not in his footsteps as a nazi. I am faar removed from being a nazi. Litterly fight them in the democratic process and organise many demonstrations against them.
It was meant as a joke as in "my familys tradition is invading russia" -.-
Look at the comment from Goldholz answering you. He's glorifying his literal Nazi grandad. This is the type of people who want to "march on Moscow". Rethink your positions mate.
I read a lot of news and thus is the first I'm hearing this
Mass media spin the narrative. Ask people irl around you what they think
To clarify, it's the first I'm hearing about the Germans becoming some sort of Deus ex machina against Russia
I do indeed talk a lot about the goings on with my peers
LOL...yeah but the peace on their terms never aligns with the peace of the other side. so fuck russia and burn a tesla.
We've always had a giant army. It just wasn't ours and we can't rely on it any more.
Europe countries armies combined already match and even surpass russia.
You would surpase the russian army with 1430 hand canons
Here is the weasel
Holy shit, how did it take so long to find someone not wanting to give billions to the military industrial complex that will definitely not use that money to lobby politicians into going to war with which they make profit. Rheinmetall stocks have gone up 1300% in the past 5 years. 1300%. That's not a misspell. 1300%.
FUCK WAR, I'm not fucking throwing my body into a needless meatgrinding war between imperialist nations.
You know the US is not the "entire western world" right?! I think venezuela would be against it for example.
Pretty sure the US is an ally of Russia now anyways.
Stop posting/upvoting pictures of tweets.
stop reacting to posts with tweets.
Wars are fought by people. Everyone who doesn't to end blown up somewhere in a trench in an inter imperialist struggle should be antiwar. Stop fucking beating the drums of war, we need to prevent WW3 from happening, and it's not too late to do so.
Stop cheering for military expenditure, stop electing fascist politicians in Europe, stop buying into war propaganda. We can avoid this war. Do not condemn yourself or your loved ones to passing through the meat grinder, your government doesn't give a fuck about human rights or abour your life.
Military expenditure is how you avoid war. You think Russia will only attack if Europe is strong? Bizarre.. Also, I don't think it's the fascists who want expenditure, or at least not the far right parties, they are pro russia.
Oh wow you actually believe what you are saying, this is sad. EU was exceedingly friendly with Russia for the last 30 years, until the war happened. And no, this was not because NATO was pushing boundaries, this is nonsense. Crazy that you actually believe this.
"My side of government propaganda is right, the other side is wrong". Get a grasp at geopolitics
That's pretty much France and especially Germany's playbook for Russian relations for the past few decades though. It seemed to work well until it suddenly didn't, so we're gonna have to try the other way
Russia didn't attack the EU though?
Sure, it only attacked its neighbor for committing the cardinal sin of trying to get into the EU and being afraid of Russia's expansionism.
The EU funded genocide in Palestine for committing the cardinal sin of existing though, what's your point? Russia surely sucks, so does Europe, I don't wanna fucking die in the front lines and neither do you, so stop warmongering
Lol "Europe is fascists pieces of shit", you heard it here first folks. No, Israel is the fascist pieces of shit and they can take full responsibility.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
Oh you spoke in Latin, hence you must be right!
I want peace, which is why I will push for negotiations and peace agreements between Russia and Europe (and probably the US seeing their tendencies)
And what are you going to push for when Russia breaks those agreements?
Judging by his statement, @[email protected] would want more "peace" negotiations.
Yes, I would want more honest peace negotiations. What's wrong with peace negotiations?
You cannot make peace with someone that wants to annex you, control you or genocide you. Do you say the same to beaten wives so they don't divorce their husband?
Come on now. Let's not pretend there aren't limits to negotiation with a violent person that refuses to stop being violent. No matter how many times you tell them, "No no, bad, baaaad! Killing baad! Genocide baaad!" To reform them, if they keep doing it: They have no respect for you and respect, last I checked, is a mutual two way street.
In such cases, the bully (murderer in this case) needs to be checked in the guts hard enough to submit, because that bully doesn't want to change and since we can't imprison the damn psychopath and he refuses to stop, teaching him a lesson will have to happen sooner or later.
After the aggressor has invaded your country twice?
Presupposing that the "evil country" will break agreements isn't good praxis in diplomacy. There would never be deescalation and diplomacy otherwise.
Russia is currently breaking the agreements made after they annexed Crimea.
I'll also leave this paragraph here for no particular reason
Peace is a cooperative effort. Warfare can be conducted unilaterally. Unless you can stop him on his terms, what you want is completely irrelevant to the negotiations.
The meaning behind that Latin aphorism predates civilization. It is the reason so many herbivorous animals evolved horns or antlers.
Your entire argument is "diplomacy doesn't exist". It's not particularly solid
You don't get to talk to Putin's ambassador until you have a plan to deal with his general.
The only way to avoid war is by being able to make it too costly for Russia to conduct it. That is the only thing that will keep them at the table.
Being ready and able to fight is the only way to ensure you won't have to.
This "negotiate from a position of weakness" argument you are raising is the stupidest thing I've read in the past 24 hours.
Being anti war when Russia is around is essentially the same thing as being pro Russia, because they're willing and able to use violent force to get what they want, and if you're not willing to defend yourself, you will be subjugated.
Remind me again, which country is currently actively invading and occupying multiple neighbouring countries?
Like, I realise every major power has been a colonising force at some point in their life, but only one is currently doing it.
As I said before, Russia doesn't truly do diplomacy, if they do it's just to keep you distracted. The only language they truly respect is that of force, and they've shown that over hundreds of years.
They worked with them DURING WW2 from the moment it was clear the germs would lose.
Yep. A lot of Nazi leaders began making their connections with the west as it became obvious that the USSR was winning in the Eastern front as well as Operation Paperclip, etc.
Everyone knows about Operation Paperclip.
Which for some can be whitwashed as useful.
But it was much worse and blatant.
Saving the worst warcriminals and 1000's of SS division ukranianGalizien.
Later project aerodynamic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB_Gs-0dhOo
https://ebeggin.substack.com/p/ratlines-nato-and-the-fourth-reich
And it all shows it was the UK/US that actually wanted the contacts.
Absolutely. Thanks for the receipts.
I mean Canada literally honored a WW2 vet for a Ukrainian that "fought Russia" in WW2. Like, no thought "who was fighting the USSR in Ukraine in WW2?"
And they keep going with this BS.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/12/30/cypl-d30.html
Canada really is infested with them.