Spyke
lemmy.world

“hey police, someone threw cheese at my car, I’m in fear for my life.”

This had me chuckling.

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Remember that to these people the law exists to oppress.

"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."

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SPRUNTreply
lemmy.world

Just wanted to say that the hate on American cheese is unjustified. American cheese is just cheddar that has been heated to 170f (iirc) for long enough to kill bacteria and make it shelf-stable. They add an emulsifier (again, iirc) to help it bind better and have a more pleasant texture.

All other criticisms of America are valid, but the cheese doesn't deserve the hate it gets.

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SPRUNTreply
lemmy.world

"Pleasant" in the context of what it would be otherwise. My understanding is that, without the emulsifier, it would be crumbly and kinda chalky, and not hold a form very well.

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Schmooreply
slrpnk.net

You forgot to mention that it's watered down. That's what the emulsifier is for, to make the oils in the cheese mix well with the added water. The concept is fine - for some applications - if it were only that, but this is hyper-processed American food we're talking about here. Gotta pad out that ingredient list:

CHEDDAR CHEESE (CULTURED MILK, SALT, ENZYMES), SKIM MILK, MILKFAT, MILK PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, WHEY, CALCIUM PHOSPHATE, SODIUM PHOSPHATE, CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF MODIFIED FOOD STARCH, SALT, LACTIC ACID, MILK, SORBIC ACID AS A PRESERVATIVE, OLEORESIN PAPRIKA (COLOR), ENZYMES, CHEESE CULTURE, ANNATTO (COLOR).

The above is the standard Kraft singles ingredient list, and at a glance is the shortest one I saw on their website.

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lemmy.world

Literally this is why it gets hate. It’s not remotely Cheddar. Real Cheddar is deliberately none of these things. I love a crunchy cheese crystal and a crumbly organic texture. To each their own, but it’s not Cheddar, barely cheese. I’d have it in a burger, but only because so few places will melt real cheese properly. Brie is pretty good in a burger. Is Somerset Brie really Brie? Time for a Frenchman to tell me to gtfo…

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SPRUNTreply
lemmy.world

I didn't say it was cheddar. I said it was made from cheddar. It's decidedly not cheddar, which is why it's not called "cheddar".

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That's Velveeta or canned cheese, explicitly not what's being discussed

American cheese is an actual cheese product

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They are discussing cheese slices, or singles as they are sometimes called. And I don't think those are cheese, but a cheese product.

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andros_rexreply
lemmy.world

IMHO, it has three purposes:

  1. a grilled cheese on cheap white bread with enough butter to guarantee an acid reflux episode
  2. melted on Chef Boyardee ravioli
  3. on a slice of apple pie

If your Kraft singles are too precious, I think the Dollar Tree brands stray even further from gods light.

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smortreply
lemmy.world

Wait wtf you put American cheese on your apple pie?!?

Are you from the US? I’ve never heard of that, and honestly I’m horrified and intrigued

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andros_rexreply
lemmy.world

I think it might be an “older people in the south” thing. (Like all boomers and older I’ve talked to about it know about it, usually not younger) I worked at a diner for a bit, and it would be Silent Generation types that would order it.

It’s pretty good, but real cheddar would be better. It’s that similar salty/sweet combo that makes French fries and a McFlurry better than sex.

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i heard of it as kid on some cooking show on PBS in the 90s. I thought it was super weird, but my mom had heard of it. Except it was cheddar cheese, not american. I tried it and thought it was pretty good, so i bring it up when people talk about apple pie. it never fails to weird them out if they've never tried it!

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There's a joke/urban myth that it's the law in Wisconsin that restaurants have to serve a slice of cheese with apple pie.

We did used to have a law that oleo (margarine) had to be sold undyed, which made it a sickly-looking blue-ish white. This was to protect the state's dairy industry. Only butter could be yellow. People near the borders used to bootleg yellow margarine back across the border from other states. The law was dealt a mortal blow when one of our state representatives publicly took a blind taste test in order to prove that butter was better...

...and failed. His family had been worried about his health, and was surreptitiously substituting yellow margarine for butter in their meals. (In an amusing historical twist, now that we know about the danger of transfats, we know that butter is indeed better.)

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wtf would you put that on apple pie? Pie deserves a nice sharp white cheddar

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If by 'more pleasant texture' you mean 'no texture whatsoever' then yes, I suppose so.

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lemmy.world

emusified sausages and meat products, which are popular all around the world

They are?

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Check out Nile Red on Nebula, (or YT if that's your bag). He makes American Cheese from the ground cheddar up and you can watch. Having done so, I agree with you.

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I wonder if one of the problems is your comparison of American cheese to what I’m guessing might be American cheddar. I say this because most (and I know there are some niche outliers) American cheddars are pretty awful. It tastes processed, rubbery and bland.

When I, a Brit, lived in the USA for 4 yrs I quickly learned the only good cheddar was the NZ or UK stuff. I say this as someone who has gone through at least 1-3 blocks of various British cheddars a week for almost 40 yrs.

I wonder if you have had imported (not just branded as “English cheddar” before for example? It might blow your mind… but also if American cheddar is all you have know it might not taste all that good - we all have our tastes shaped by our upbringing.

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Botundareply
lemmy.world

American Cheese is not actually cheese. It is cheese food product. Even deli American cheese is not cheese.

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roofuskitreply
lemmy.world

Legally they can't label it as cheese, but get anyway with cheese being part of the name.

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Because it’s made out of cheese

The west mocks homeopathy but practices it with it's own food.

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lemmy.world

All other criticisms of America

Processed cheese is only called "American cheese" by Americans.

The rest of the world doesn't call it that, and it's strange to see that some of you take it on as part of your national identity.

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Thank you. I did not realize their processed cheese was even worse than Kraft.

I'm partial to the odd Laughing Cow on toast.

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lemmy.world

Then why were you calling it a criticism of America?

That does not make sense.

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They said that in the broader context of saying they don't think American cheese deserves the hate it gets. It was qualifying their defense of American cheese by saying they aren't just blindly defending any criticism of America but honestly like the cheese.

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Yerboutireply
sh.itjust.works

Honestly if you ever tasted anything else than cheddar and mozzarella, you know that americans cheese is something else. I'm willing to bet you could leave some slices in a forest and no animal would touch it.

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you know that americans cheese is something else

It's cheddar and Colby Jack with some emulsifiers to make them mix better, that's about it

Kraft singles have preservatives in them so they're großer for sure, but that's not the only kind of American cheese there is

No I DONT know why my keyboard autocorrected that to use the German letter but it's funny so I'm leaving it as is

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I'm sure there's a lot of good american cheese but I thought this "cheese product" was the subject. I actually enjoy it from time to time, but I can't bring myself to think of it as cheese. Like cheez weez for example, I like it sometimes, but it's just a different product in my mind. And man that Halloween orange color... just... who got this idea...why?

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Cybertruck owners are huge fragile bitches, who'd have known?

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lemmy.myserv.one

In a video taken from a Cybertruck of a man throwing American cheese slices at the windshield of a Cybertruck

They better be throwing 64 slices of American cheese.

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Sturgistreply
lemmy.ca

I’m sure the synthetic oilly shit has a wonderful reaction with that unprotected stainless steel.

Not to mention that depending on force of the throw, and precise angle of the impact of cheese slice, the thing could start falling apart.

..... which now I think about it, also explains the:

“hey police, someone threw cheese at my car, I’m in fear for my life.”

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lemmy.world

Police : Buddy, you are lucky it wasn't something much worse, this one time, a friggin acorn hit my car and I...

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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Fuck! I'd completely forgotten about that! What a fucking mongrel...

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Post his picture everywhere so everyone knows who he is... and he never has to pay for his own drinks again, I suppose?

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The latter is so they can kill them with a written record to aid their defense in court.

I'd call it premeditated, first degree murder, but I'm not on their jury so my opinion is irrelevant.

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lemmy.world

These protestors in front of Tesla Service Centers need to see what a majority looks like...A couple hundred CTs surrounding them might do it.”

This guy thinks the majority means "whoever shows up with weapons"

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AbidanYrereply
lemmy.world

He also thinks there are a couple hundred cybertrucks nearby. Thinking may not be his strong suit.

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schizoreply

Hey if you're near a Tesla storage lot, there probably IS a couple hundred cybertrucks nearby.

Sitting there, having their wheels stolen and rotting since nobody is buying them, but that's still technically nearby.

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Or just unsold sitting in an abandoned mall parking lot

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eskimofryreply
lemmy.world

having their wheels stolen

I am pretty sure in the car parts thievery guild, showing up with something from a Tesla is sure to get yourself excommunicated and even banished.

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Hey, Tesla tires and wheels are suuuuuper expesnive relative to normal cars.

Like several hundred dollars per tire (or in the case of the fatty dumpster, like $600) becauase the cars are so heavy you can't just use ye olde normal tires on them.

I would very much like EVERY tire and wheel thief to go after nothing but Teslas and leave everyone else alone. Better money, and absolutely nobody will ever recall seeing you steal shit.

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lemmy.world

...A couple hundred CTs...

Gonna be hard to get the majority of them that have been sold to show up in one place at one time.

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glimsereply
lemmy.world

I was gonna make a joke about that in my original comment but I checked and was surprised to find that like 30k have been sold in the US

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lemmy.world

30k is abysmal for a car that had almost 2 million pre-orders. Clearly, there is huge demand for a vehicle like the Cybertruck, but not specifically the Cybertruck. A little hyperbole can be fun sometimes.

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There was huge demand - if they had released what was promised for the promised price in the promised year it would have been the only EV truck, have capabilities beyond any EV car, while also being among the lowest price EVs.

I’m generally not interested in a truck but was tempted by the original announcement. However what we finally got was an easy “no”

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lemm.ee

the only way these people will learn [is] if they are shamed

Oh projection…

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Dasusreply
lemmy.world

Oh projection…

I don't think you really understand the words you use.

You're saying shaming nazis is shameful?

edit jesus lemmy, you're this stupid? there's no-one blaming anyone of being anything. there's nothing being "projected" here. I guess the downvoters feel rage for me pointing out that only pretentious morons use terms they dont' actually understand to seem smarter than they are

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lemmy.world

You should probably read the context around a comment before replying to it.

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Dasusreply
lemmy.world

What you mean is that you don't actually have an argument. You just pretend like you do.

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jdeathreply
lemm.ee

to keep from arguing the opposite of what you think you are

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L3sreply
lemmy.world

Your comment was removed for violating rule 3.

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Yeah, because it's an entirely subjective rule. People are not "being excellent" to me, because I'm insistent that there was no projection.

Lots of "do your own research" and downvoting, but not a single person can actually verbalise the thing I'm asking. And me pointing that out makes people angry.

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Toneswirlyreply
lemmy.world

Bro the quote is from a nazi car OWNER not the critics, the OWNER of nazi car is doing the projecting. You clearly dont understand that even after multiple people have pointed it out and thats why youre getting flamed. Lick your wounds and move on.

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lemmy.world

Cybertrucks are ugly, poorly-built, and poorly-designed vehicles. These protesters are doing any potential owners who get deterred from wasting their money on them a favor.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

I test drove one because I had to know. It was awful. I've driven dozens of different vehicles and it by far is the worst I've ever driven. It's just stupid. Everything about it is stupid.

It also felt satisfying to cost Tesla like $10 in electricity and wear and tear.

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ouRKaoSreply
lemmy.today

It also felt satisfying to cost Tesla like $10 in electricity and wear and tear.

Should we all sign up to test drive Teslas with zero intentions to buy, just to cost them time & money?

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lemmy.world

I have a feeling that one of Elon's kids were the inspiration. One told him while watching Blade Runner or something with them "Why does the future not look like the future?", then he decided to cook, and people around him let him.

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Elon doesn’t spend time with his children. They are meat shields to him.

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Like 13 times less safe than a Ford Pinto, and ~50x worse (for fires) than another EV.

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infosec.pub

Oh, the Pinto, with it's missing gas tank design, and later rebranding as the Ford Mustang after killing so many in a firey death. Gotta love the Pinto...

Edit: to be clear, I'd rather drive it than the boxy Prius wannabe.

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The boxy Prius wannabe? A lot. The real Prius, nothing. It's a rather nice vehicle, actually (not the box).

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and later rebranding as the Ford Mustang after killing so many in a firey death

It'd be funny if true but the Pinto sold for longer than the Gen II mustang, they just looked similar

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Aw man! The colloquial history was wrong. Sorry about that, mate. The pinto took design factors from the Mustang Gen I. After the Pinto failed, the Mustang II took design factors from the Pinto. However, the colloquial history of one being a reskinn of the other is utterly wrong. Good story, though haha

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lemmy.world

American cheese used to cost more than eggs. Now cheese is 10x cheaper than eggs. New throwables just dropped.

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lemm.ee

They're all masochists. I've never seen a group that wants to be oppressed more than conservatives. Their lives revolve around bullshit perceived aggrievement.

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prolereply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

Christian conservatives are the worst of them all. Their entire society is steeped in their religion; it's literally unavoidable, despite the first amendment being very clear. If the US has a culture, it would heavily overlap with Christianity.

And yet they have convinced themselves that they are being oppressed. Because someone dared to challenge their obviously unconstitutional bullshit. It's so pathetic.

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tmyakalreply
lemm.ee

My Catholic in-laws voted for Trump in 2020 because Biden, a Catholic, was going to outlaw catholicism.

There's no hope for these people.

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Goldholzreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

...he voted for the people who dont recognise the head of his religion?! As a former catholic myself, wow, he is a stupid one, hope the one person threw which they are your inlaws isnt as bright as them

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You mean the woke pope? Apologies for inflicting an ai summary upon you but it does sum it up quite well. A lot of catholics really don't like Francis.

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Like imagine hearing or reading something so patently absurd, and taking it at face value without bothering to check if there is any truth to it. Brain rot.

It's just their projection taking another form: they know that they want to "outlaw" (or oppress or whatever) the other religions and minorities, so in their mind, the Democrats must be planning to do the exact same thing to them.

That is as deep as it ever gets with these people.

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A lot of core concepts in Christianity are incompatible with being white in America. It’s a religion for the oppressed being practiced by the oppressors. They’re the Pharisees. It takes a lot of mental gymnastics to figure out how to see themselves as the lepers and the Jews.

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lemmy.world

The modern Christian Establishment has a great deal in common with the United States itself. There's tons of writing and chatter about being based on principles of personal freedom and responsibility, taking care of one another, etc. while in real life the ones steering those ships will laugh you out of the room if you suggest they actually try to live and treat folks anything like their texts say they should.

There are, of course, genuinely good Christian and American individuals out there, but they are clearly not the ones in control of their institutions; the collective human organizations which serve to represent them are all about keeping up sparkly appearances and telling nice stories while standing firmly on the necks of anyone they deem too different from themselves.

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Those people are good in spite of their religion.

Christianity takes all of the best aspects of humanity, and convinces people that they require some sort of supernatural force to be or do those things.

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lemmy.world

Throwing cheese at cars is my new favorite form of antifascist protest!

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If it's parked, bird seed is a good one! Those birds will probably do some pooping.

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lemm.ee

I see a Reichertruck sometimes on my commute and wonder if the driver gets shit for it. It just gets an angry glare from me.

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i call it the cybercoffin, and the charcuterie on wheels.

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GaMEChldreply
lemmy.world

Dude, the last version of the Prius I saw was a couple years ago on MKBHD, and it looked amazing and had a solar roof.

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___reply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

Fun fact: the solar roof debuted on the Prius for the 2010 model year, in 2009

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lemmy.world

I was an adult when I learned that some people say flick instead of flip.

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it's what we all called it in first grade. past that bot so much

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Please correct me if I'm wrong but, hypothetically if someone were to vandalise a Tesla to the point of it being written off, could the owner request that the insurance company replace it with a non-tesla car?

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Where I live, you get a clump sum of money based on the totaled cars current market value. So YES, in some places!

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This is exactly like the support groups for parents who got NCed after refusing to get off their MAGA bullshit. Don't buy a dumb car if you don't want people to say you have a dumb car.

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lemmy.world

Destroying people's property is not a joke. Kicking, spray painting, throwing food at, and other forms of harassment are wrong. The last administration told everyone to "go electric" so people tried to do what they thought was right. Cars are a huge expense, people can't " just go get another one".

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lemmy.world

No one bought a six figure truck with no reasonable application because they thought it was right thing to do, they did it to show how they had more disposable income than you and that they aligned with hatred. They deserve much worse than anything I see here.

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AidsKittyreply
lemmy.world

The biden\harris administration told people to buy electric, offered tax breaks, and tax rebates for 4 years. Every car manufacturer started producing electric cars at their request. Where have you been?

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lemmy.world

You're being disingenuous, for example by equating the cybertrucks and some other Teslas being "destroyed" (sure in some cases but not by slices of cheese or notes) with any and all electric cars, or by equating the negative sentiment against Tesla with negative sentiment against any EV.

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AidsKittyreply
lemmy.world

No you're being disingenuous by attempting to change the topic we are actually discussing which was people being harassed for driving the "wrong type of electric car" by terrible people who feel justified in victimizing them. While these victimizers congratulate themselves for being "good people" which they are not.

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attempting to change the topic we are actually discussing

How exactly am I doing that by pointing out that you're not actually arguing in good faith?

You are projecting in your accusation that I am attempting to change the topic, as you are the one who initially posted a top level comment attempting to shift the blame to politicians for convincing people to buy a car from a known Nazi's company, which by the way is a bullshit premise in the first place for many reasons including that there are plenty of other EV manufacturers and no one forced anyone to buy a Nazi car.

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If it was a 5 year old Tesla you might have a point. There is no excuse for the memetruck.

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Drusasreply
fedia.io

Nazis are well known for having thrown slices of cheese at things.

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oh yeah they're known for vandalizing ... jews? what the fuck are you sniffing right now?

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andros_rexreply
lemmy.world

Buying a Cybertruck: a choice

Being Jewish, a woman, transgender, disabled, etc, etc: not a choice

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I don't think that's the distinction.

the distinction is throwing cheese at a fucking death trap of a car is not even remotely "the same level" as advocating for the extermination of groups of people, regardless of whether those groups are based on choices or immutable characteristics. you have to be actually cartoonishly insane to even think this is even comparable to anything associated with nazis.

another distinction is that nazis do and advocate for abhorrent shit, and anything done to a nazi is therefore self defense.

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Lerajereply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

Leaving notes...committing genocide, yeah they're interchangeable really.

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roofuskitreply
lemmy.world

See, Nazis were objectively bad, and deploramobile owners FEEL these people are bad, so they must be the same.

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pyrereply
lemmy.world

deploramobile

I'm on your side but there's no need for that kind of language.

they're called swasticars

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Your right I'm gonna hold up a small sign somewhere out of the way to fight Nazism. I have a feeling that reading the sign will hurt the Nazis feelings and that will really deter them. Plus people will appreciate that I didn't disturb anyone at all. /s

Dude this is a pretty mild form of protest.

I sympathize with the people who bought the car not realizing he's a Nazi asshole. But considering his treatment of workers and general anti-repair attitudes have been well known for a while. I'm not gonna sympathize too hard.

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