OpenAI Says DeepSeek Used Its Work Without Permission
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Says the company that literally crawled the Internet without anyone’s permission to train their damn model.
Rules for thee, not for me.
That photo-illustration is hilarious!
The moment I saw that illustration, I was, like, "Yes. This is the article I'm going with." xD
Made by Deepseek
Only America can steal data appearently. Everyone else is a terrorist.
Not ordinary Americans. That's piracy, which is a form of terrorism. Only the wealthiest asshole Americans can steal data.
of the wealthy, by the wealthy, for the wealthy
I mean America was lottery created by wealthy guys who didn't want to pay taxes.
I think you mean “peons”?
Pedons is French/shorthand for pedestrians
How dare you call me a pedon, I am a PEON.
People these days have no respect.
Don't let ANYBODY ever call you a pleb, I know and you know that in your heart you are a pedon.
Raises mud clump in solidarity
What is a pedon? The dictionary says it's a soil sample.
In French?
Dude, "stealing data" is not the preferred nomenclature, "protecting your IP", please.
Look at what happened to Aaron Swartz.
Inconceivable.
Weird, because OpenAI used my work, without permission, to create an AI that stealing my job.
It's fine when we do it!
The bots stole our jobs, then the other bots stole the jobs from the first bots.
Cry me a river.
You're laughing? OpenAI's hard work is being stolen, and you're laughing?
There exists not, a violin small enough for this occasion.
We’re in sub-atomic volon sympathy territory now.
A volon is the up-quark subatomic violin particle for anyone who is unfamiliar.
"You're trying to kidnap what I've rightfully stolen!" -OpenAI 2025.
Do you want to go back to where I found you!? Unemployed!? In Greenland?!
won't someone please think of the shareholders?
this is the response I came for :D
Thanks I was looking for the world's smallest violin
Hahahahahaha
Hhaahahaha
Hahahaha hahaha
Maybe we should be a little more serious about this, and try to find the smallest violin ever.
Like this?
That violin is too damn big
🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭
Oh, no Sam!!! Ohhhhh Nooooo!!! NOOOOOOOOO!
Somebody beat you at your own game and now you're going to get bailed out for it. Cry harder you pathetic piece of shit.
Meanwhile OpenAI no doubt frantically copying the shit out of Deepseek right now
Copying protected work without consent has been their MO so nothing changed.
Deepseek is open source. So OpenAI would be closer to their namesake if they started using deepseeks model.
Yes. OpenAI was non-profit at one point as well.
Their company motto used to be "Evil is subjective unless it is done to us at which point it is wrong" but that was considered a little tooooo on the nose so they took it down.
I mean, open is in their name. They shouldn't have dressed like that. They were asking for it.
What makes this even funnier is that A.I generated content isn't even copyrightable.
Someone I saw on YouTube asked, "How can you steal from someone named 'OpenAI'?"
But, DeepSeek wouldn't be able to make money without using OpenAI.
Same what OpenAI said about copyright material they used to train ChatGPT.
Felony contempt of business model
-> <-
If you zoom in on the line above, and I mean really zoom in you will see a violin small enough to express my level of sympathy.
i'm at 1200000% zoom and i can't see it!?
Keep going! It's almost visible!
Do we even have to technology to zoom in that much? 😂
They do on CSI.
Of course we do, you just need to keep on zooming!
I'm giving it all the zoom we got but that's all we have!
Repolarise the electron microscope's phase inverter!
Here's an entire chest filled to the brim with all the fucks I give:
Damn that must be a pain to drag around all that fucking loot
Awwwww diddums. Do you not like it when people steal your work to make money from it? That must be so difficult for you...
Oh noooo!
Anyway.
Before reading any articles concerning Deep Seek's origin, it took me awhile to realise that they probably stole the data and technology from Western AI developers. Developing a better AI and as open source that quickly is pretty much impossible. And everyone knows that CCP steal IP and technology from the West so it's unsurprising.
so because openAI stole their corpus of training info first, they get to call others thieves?
lol...
It's still stealing regardless of who called dibs first.
I don't disagree at all. I think there's going to be a reckoning when one of these companies finally makes a product that earns a profit.
Spoiler - It'll be a Chinese company.
could be. could honestly come from anywhere.
"It's only okay if western companies steal." duh!
You do realized that's based as hell right?
China steals from the west and uses it to improve their peoples lives instead of just squeezing them for every filthy penny possible?
You do understand that's a moral, ethical, and economic China W don't you?
What happened in Tianamen in 1989, Deep Seek?
According to whom?
This is a "not the onion" level headline, holy shit
So? They can just steal it back 🤷♂️
There's a name for that. It's called "karma".
How ironic, right?
Oh cry me a river, DeepSeek is OpenSource, OpenAI (Which should be renamed to ClosedAI) isn't
DeepSeek is the more ethical AI toolkit for one to use, at least they're not pretentious
DeepSeek is Open Weight, as in weights are available*
Anything needed to actually train the model is as closed as ClosedAI is.
Lol. Lmao.
it's ok ChatGPT you can join us the unemployed
Little known rule of society: it's OK to steal from people poorer than you.
That's the free market at work baby. Regs for thee but not for mee.
The seas be a harsh mistress, here take this!
I don't believe any of these assholes about anything tbh.
Sounds like it's fair game because they improved on it. A lot. And this is only the version they threw back over the fence.
Open AI used OUR work with out permission
Oh no, someone stole my stolen work without permission?
that's fine, from what I understand AI projects can't have copyright so even if the claim is true they can cry about it.
It’s like the America sweater got too many ends pulled and it’s all coming apart brilliantly.
Careful, humans do stupid and dangerous shit when they’re cold and desperate.
Oh no is the widdle data thief mad his stolen data was stolen?
Someone call the waaambulance.
Womp womp cry more ai tears
To their credit, they thought plagiarism would always benefit them, not the other way around.
/s just in case
Oh, gee, a good news for today!
Hahahahahahaha.
I think he has exceeded his lifetime quota of irony.
They repeated "US national security champion" in interviews today.
The direct path to AI dystopia/skynet is to ensure military supremacy. AI can be far more profitable if it assists that objective, and skynet does not need to sentiently choose machine supremacy, if it is already programmed for anti-human militarist supremacy. AI/media programming you to support skynet is essential to militarist supremacy. Genociding a slave class that gets uppity over oligarchy and lack of income from resources devoted to skynet militarist goals, is a natural progression.
If you steal from thieves, are the goods no longer stolen?
Only if you are the original owner, otherwise it is obviously still stolen.
From where I'm from we have a saying: Thief that steals from a thief has 100 years of pardon.
It rhymes in my native language btw.
edit: typo
It's true! Ai will take our jobs! Hahahaha
Well well, how the turn tables.
Tragic really
What's the opposite of eating the onion? I thought it was satire ehen i 1st saw this story
lol
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:nqkjanmv6bd6zhl3lgwg5bdh/post/3lh2cn2wva227
Openai - you stole it from us first.
Stop, there is 0 sympathy for you
“It's also worth reiterating that despite its name, OpenAI is a closed-source and for-profit company — while DeepSeek's AI models are open-source.”
Smells like there’s a lawsuit just around the corner. How do you license a model as open source if the training data was stolen?
The local versions I've tested out today are absolutely garbage. It frustrated me over simple questions.
I know it's not DeepSeek, but this is what I got out of the Reasoner V1 model in GPT4All ("Based on Qwen2.5-Coder 7B"). Use local models with care!
Such convincing gaslighting. I’m too lazy to look, but was Gomer Pyle a cameo/guest on that episode of the simpsons? or is it just total hallucination?
I wouldn't call it gaslighting or even hallucination, but just getting things mixed up. I described Bart Simpson and asked if it could tell me which character from which show I meant. There is a Gomer Pyle who appears in several episodes of the Simpsons and does have pointy hair. I'm pretty sure he doesn't wear a helmet and bandana. But Gomer Pyle is also a figure in the Andy Griffith Show and Gomer Pyle USMC, which aired in the 60s.
Why is that? I mean why does the locally run version suck?
Because it has fewer parameters and (in some cases) it's quantized. The hardware needed to run local inference on the full model is not really feasible to most people. Though, the release of it will probably still make a wide impact on the quality of other upcoming smaller models being distilled from it, or trained on synthetic data from it, or merged with it, etc.
Deepseek put the code.intoo open is not what they want priopitary and earn money
Can you rephrase this into something legible?
The user is asking for me to rephrase a difficult to parse line of text. I think the poster was talking about my code being open source and free and therefore my coders and country not being interested in generating profit. But wait, perhaps the user was just having a stroke. Perhaps this posting was a cry for help and the icey cold world of Lemmy just down-voted the user instead of coming to his aide But wait, that's unlikely. The user was probably drunk and just has fat fingers likely covered in powdered cheese which can cause data entry errors on touch screen devices. I should also consider that the user is a non-English speaker and ran their comment through a translator application that butchered their intent. But wait, the punctuation does not look like something a translation app would generate without poor data input. I think ultimately I should be careful not to offend anyone, but the most likely explanation is that this was someone with limited experience with written English and some degree of intoxication. The meaning is vague and the comment is best left ignored.
What's that?
From my experience and expertise, Ambien. Man's gonna get a knock on the door from the walrus any second now.
Code in the open as opensource everyone can fork ik and check code..opening monopoly is in danger...and for money eating machines too ..ai is mather of privacy bad