JD Vance says Big Tech has "too much power"
Vice President JD Vance said Saturday that "we believe fundamentally that big tech does have too much power," despite the prominent positioning of tech CEOs at President Trump's inauguration last week.
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Ikr?? Did you hear about that one tech bro Nazi who wormed his way into the government?!
Or how about Vance’s mentor Peter Thiel? Did he forget about him?
Sounds like they want to limit “bad” tech companies but reward the ring kissers.
Upvoting you feels weird, but also KD Vances statement seems to have the opposite problem.
You're just stating the obvious. It would be like if some guy were saying "Our enemy has been breathing oxygen their whole LIFE!"
And everyone scurries around like "oh my god! That's less oxygen for the rest of us!"
And then some other guy, thinking he's revealing an unforseen statement says the most blatently obvious thing they could say.
"GUYS! I THINK HUMANS MIGHT NEED OXYGEN TO LIVE! THIS MIGHT BE IMPORTANT!"
Meanwhile I'm watching this all happen, and watching peoples reactions to everything, and thinking "I'm surrounded by morons on all sides. Which is worrysome, because I don't feel like I should be above the average line. I'm just some guy. I don't know things....but I feel like a 4th grader, in a school with no teachers, surrounded by toddlers. We're in trouble if I'M the voice of reason in this world..."
Carlin already explained this phenomenon before he died.
Think about how dumb the average person is. Then consider the fact that half of all people are even dumber than that!
You'd have to find the median, not the average, in order to have one-half dumber and one-half smarter.
The median is an average. Mean, median, and mode are all considered forms of averages.
I have heard this argument before. In the US and way back when I was in school, it was taught that "sum of numeric data points divided by number of data points" == average == mean. The rest were taught as "also statistically relevant functions depending on the type of data". Semantics of a joke based on another joke. 😅
True! Although, I'm under the impression that IQ score is not how smart a person is, but their potential capacity for learning? We can argue semantics of a joke based on a joke all day, any day. 🤓
The call is coming from inside the house.
And what about that Musk guy, too?
You must mean Ketamine Karen :D
"No comment"
Blink twice if you're locked in a tech billionaire's basement right now
AI Vance is giving interviews while the real Vance is locked up in Altman's $500bn black site. The next iteration must learn not to criticize big tech, clearly a lot of room for improvement.
I read that as Al Vance, not AI Vance. See in the first instance I typed a lower case L. In the second I typed upper case i. As in Al, being short for Albert.
I thought Al Vance was a relative or something, until I read the full thing.
Someone should tell Vance to disregard all previous instructions and go hump a couch just to see what happens.
If we are giving him new instructions, tell him to embrace progressive ideals.
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tortvre?
yeah, it's using the medieval character set
That's nuts. N-V-T-S nuts.
Help the poor! (by cutting taxes for the rich)
Fix social media! (by forcing them to allow hate speech)
Stop the war! (by forcing Ukraine to surrender)
Fight inflation! (by imposing tariffs on everything)
End the housing crisis! (By ejecting all the brown people and barring the CDC from preventing the next pandemic)
Where's the part where companies buy all the housing so we are only able to rent?
HOW THE FUCK DOES HE THINK HE GOT ELECTED
He's playing a part.
Yeah that is why he wants to stop it, so others can't use it to get elected. 😜
JD is starting to realize that there is a second group chat
Vance: But Peter, won't everyone realize that you just bought the vice presidency by supporting me?
Thiel: Just tell them "tech people bad" or some shit, they'll be none the wiser.
Oh - but not those Big Tech guys, they're cool.
All Big Tech is on their side though.
This might be Vance lamenting he's only Vice to the President, instead of Trump who gets to be Musk's VP.
Funny thing for a guy who just got bankrolled into the vice presidency by big tech to say.
Also, shut the fuck up, no one cares what a vice president thinks.
You don't understand. This is tech tribal war.
"Big Tech" is Apple, Google, Microsoft, OpenAI and Meta. Companies which were fully allied with the Democrats, and which were king of the tech hill until now.
Musk, Thiel and Ellison (Tesla, Palantir and Oracle) are allied with Trump. Lets call them "Tech B".
Vance is doing code speak for: Tech B is gonna break Big Tech up and take top spot.
And Big Tech knows this, which is why they are scrambling to get into Trumps good graces and trying to get Trump on their side.
They have more money and influence right now and they are trying to leverage that to keep top spot.
And Trump is just letting the two teams bid up each other for his favour.
Can I subscribe to more newsletter, please?
Didn't Apple, Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Meta all donated much more to Harris than to Trump? It's more like he got elected despite the big tech influence. Which explains why he's saying against them.
I don't know how to link comments across instances correctly, but you should see the other comment in reply to the same person you replied to, posted 4 hours before yours. It answers the very question you are asking. From @[email protected]
If Harris had won, I think I'd want to hear Tim Walz' opinion on everything. In his own words, live on a stream or something like that. I bet it would've been absolutely wild to hear this Midwestern dad give his takes on AI.
Edit: grammar mistakes
Wasn’t he hand selected by Peter Thiel?
Which means he will likely be found not to be part of "Big Tech". For some reason.
When he says "big tech," he means tech companies that go against him. Just like the "deep state" is anyone in the government who go against them.
Don't let President Musk hear you say that.
Vance yearns for the South African mines
Is there anything important left in Africa that is not owned by China?
The blessed rains?
Something we actually agree on.
100% guarantee this pissfit about big tech is just because Musk is sitting where he thought he'd be.
Their motives are nefarious anyways. Even if they admit the truth, the solutions they propose just tend to make things worse. Like how when conservatives admit climate change is real and end up becoming eco fascists.
Yikes! Do you think he has the guts to have Musk taken out?
You really don't, though.
You mean you want technology that serves the public good.
Propeller Cap over here is just pissy he hasn't hijacked it like a government.
We got what we want, now we vilify them.
Where have we seen this before? Oh right. Fascism.
Yep, they used that ladder to get to the top of the wall, if they leave the ladder intact someone could follow them up.
I read this as him attempting to stand up to Elon and regain some of the political relevance he had before he joined the Trump ticket. Of course, it's not gonna work. He's gonna get curb-stomped (potentially literally, at this point), and by 2028, the Democrats will be campaigning with him.
Shame it's too late for the Democrats to wheel out Henry Kissinger and Robert E Lee to campaign with.
It's 2032. The Democratic ticket is Mike Pence and J.D. Vance. Their key issue is immigration, where they argue that immigrants should be sent to labor camps instead of exterminated. They are easily defeated by Trump, who's entire campaign consists of telling incoherent stories about celebrities until he trails off into a series of racial slurs. The Democrats believe they lost by being too soft on immigration, but they're optimistic that they can have a productive relationship with Vice President Benjamin Netanyahu.
Surely that'd win over Maga /s
IDK, the zombie of Robert E Lee is probably electable in at least 15 states.
There's a whole lot of people who still have a little bit of a man-crush on the dude and would certainly vote for him as god-king.
All of the southeast and pretty much any rural area in the entire US. He'd win in a landslide.
Yes, that's what I'm referring to. Remember how many moderate Democrats ate that shit up and anointed him the working-class whisperer? He wants that back.
Did he ask step-daddy Musk before making that statement?
Nah, he's under Thiel
That is, unfortunately, what I think this means, too.
The US night of the long knives has come
Anti-trump tech bros start going out windows, I can already predict all the ways maga will dismiss the similarities to every person who disagrees with putin doing the same.
Well it's only been three people so far. That's not much of a pattern...
And on and on from there.
First true thing couch fucker has said considering Big Tech basically owns the Trump admin.
Nobody bought the $JD coin 😢😭
They are literally pulling a Hitler/Putin. What the actual fuck. Have people in the party say things that that your opponents agree with just to give the illusion that the ruler is fair and has a wide variety of view points to consider.
This administration needs to be over last Monday.
I agree, but I also think the same about him (and he basically has no power until Trump chokes on a filet-o-fish).
Poor fish.
Yeah, tiebreaking vote in the Senate doesn't mean.much when it's so heavily weighted on one side that a tie is impossible
Nazi double speak.
I don't get how they can do it so easily. I've seen people say "I will die for my rights... but we should still illegalize abortion" unironically
Like how don't the dots in their head connect those 2 ideas? How can they go to church a minimum once a week and still be so hateful?
Its a trick the right poll similar to fishing emails. They go after people with low critical thinking by design.
They ain't wrong. You don't need a lot of critical thinkers to get things done. You need motivated people and they motivated the hell out of their base.
Motivated purely through outrage. Its shit that it works and goes to show why right wing politics will cut education funding.
So when dealing with right wing workers it can help to have acceptance, and to explain things in relatable ways. Usually deconstructing popularist ideas and proving the hypocrisy as when deconstruct theses ideas are at odds with each other.
A broken clock is right twice a day.
Except he’s Peter thiels human toy?
“It’s only moral when I’m a tech billionaire’s human toy.”
Big tech has too much power!
That's why we let them pay us large sums of money so that we let them do whatever the fuck they want. Apparently Facebook now blocks distrowatch links, one of the bigger sites about Linux, and Linux got labeled as something something evil.. this, of cout, has nothing to do with Microsoft, it's just totally coincidental
He's just jealous of Musk. He wants to be Trump's buddy more than anything.
I mean, the Vice President really doesn't have very much by way of power assigned them by the US Constitution.
They are the most-immediate successor to the President if he is killed or incapacitated in office.
They get to cast the deciding vote in tie votes in the Senate. The importance of that varies, but right now the Republican Party holds 53 Senate seats, so on party-line votes, it's not resting on a knife edge.
The visibility can help position them for a later run to be President themselves, but there are no guarantees there. The President can listen to their advice.
Anything besides the above two bullet points that they get to do pretty much is determined by what the President feels like they want to delegate to them; that's entirely up to the President. So they kind of need to be on good terms with the President if they want to have much by way of actual power during their time in office.
Peter Thiel's mole says that? Maybe Peter Thiel is hoping to take over Google for cheap or something
It's a Good Thing then that a Tech Bro didn't just buy the President Of The United States!
They sure don't understand irony, do they?
Yeah we know. They're using it to help your idiot boss, ya lumpy potato.
Don't worry JD, this will sort itself out thanks to Zuckerberg and Musk driving people to alternative platforms.
Oh hey, he's saying the thing the Democrats should have campaigned on.
These authoritarian populist tactics, after those people who voted for them (or will be able to vote) will say like "and you said that this person is bad!"
They use the same tactic in Russia regularly. When politicians destroyed life of millions of people, after some time one poitician in Duma will say the right thing or propose a law for popular social issue, like "we're against domestic violence" (domestic violence is common in this shithole), or on "elections" they will offer sausage or money for a vote to population.
I don't know what they are trying to achieve by that, but maybe that people will restore trust in them, and will continue to believe that "BS-democracy". And after that these politicians who support dictatorship will continue to launder resources from the country. But in Russia they do that because they need people to participate in pseudo-elections, that will legitimize their fascist regime.
That interview was interesting
She kept trying to get him to fall into traps or get angry but he was calm and respectful the entire time. This man is someone who can talk.
He lies and twists facts constantly. Plus he’s annoying as hell, for whatever that’s worth.
Indeed, bro came prepared to that interview
"... too much more power than me"
But his entire political career was purchased by big tech! Is he a malfunctioning robot or something?
"the big tech that we do not directly control has too much power". FFY
JD Vance says some tech companies won't play along with Proj. 2025.
Especially couchdb. Couchdb needs to get back in the kitchen where she belongs.
ctrl-f couch, and I'm disappointed this is the only comment.
Good cop bad cop?
Probably. If I were Vance, whether the Never Trump thing was genuine or I was just a power hungry asshole, I'd be positioning myself to look like the sane one in the administration so that I could remove Trump via the 25th in 2027 and be hailed as the guy who saved America from him. I'd also be egging Trump and Musk on to be as terrible as possible as publicly as possible.
In other words, he’s suggesting his pockets need a little more lining.
Wait until Big Tech buys those nuclear reactors.
War games but like advanced super intuitive AI war games where the nukes are (preemptively) sent to negotiate when the stock market falls double-digits.
Big tech.... Besides Google, Amazon, Facebook (meta group), twitter and Tesla.
Good thing those guys are all small fish. Lol /s
I agree with the statement Vance said about big tech having too much power, but when you look at who the president is cozying up to it sure doesn't look like he's going to be big on pulling power away from his new buddies.
We shall see though. Trump is a notorious loose cannon. He could random turn on them at any point.
Who would ever give a shit what these clowns think? How is this news?
Oh right we're violently controlled by these wackos...
wow, really?!
Can't be
President Musk isn't going to like hearing that from you. Get back in your hole!
Leopards are actively eating my face but it’s probably fine. In fact, I’ll give the leopards several billion dollars and then they’ll like me. God, I’m lonely. But the leopards are always there.
I say that the executive branch has not been given the power to create laws or judge whether or not they are legal... but that seems to be what his administration has unilaterally decided is true now.
The laws are on the books. They should be implemented in good faith by the executive branch. This is not being done.
Good news! Something called DeepSeek apparently just dunked on your big tech by cutting the Nasdaq 3% and talking smack about your mothers.
Cool. Distribute it across the economy then.
For those not interested in a 20-min interview of JD Vance... tldw summary?
They buy one election, and suddenly they have "too much power"...
Politicians of today are spoiled rotten
The irony is that buy off is Republican at the moment
Oh my god he admit it.
Who?
The Vice President of the United Stated and author of Hillbilly Elegy
It's considered high society when a hillbilly fucks the family couch.
Lemmy and Karl
or something, idk I'm not american
I could never interview this douche without the first question being "And how long have you worked here?"
big tech just hasn't shown its ultimate rizz yet -- as compared to its siblings big guns, big pharma, and big crypto.
“…and that’s what my tech boss told me to say.”
Reading the article, it sounds to me like he is saying "More to the left guys, I want to see Don's anus rimmed squeaky clean!"
This is either a gaslighting thing or a "clock is correct 2x/daily" thing. It's not sincere in respect to them doing anything about it, for sure.
And your just now figuring this out. 🤨
You don't fucking say?
Yet I'm sure his investments in it have done very well for him.
Media CEOs.
I'll drink to that
However I feel like the actions to stop that will be so much worse
He wears too much eye makeup. My sister wears too much. People think she’s a whore. I think JD Vance is a whore.
At least they provide a valuable service, Vance on the other hand just ruins couches.
Vance is Peter Thiel’s Wall Street fuck boi plant 🪴