It used to be okay to kill Nazi's on sight, as they are not only a threat to National Security, but a threat to humane values itself. Our grandfathers watched people die in droves for the chance to kill a Nazi. Now? You'll probably be shot or arrested by police for killing a Nazi.
Wow. I was willing to believe that the still pictures were just perfectly timed to make it look like something it wasn't. But it totally is a Nazi salute.
Yeah, this was the first time I saw it in motion. How anyone could try to spin this as anything else is wild. We're to the part in 1984 where we're told to reject the evidence of our eyes and ears...
I was on the fence about them for past shenanigans but this is the final nail in the coffin. My friends are now telling me that musk did not, in fact do a Nazi salute because his fingers weren't pointed the right way
Almost like taking still shots of someone in motion can make them look like they're doing crazy shit... So how about you make them gifs instead so we can see the context?
Zionism is the same kind of ideology as Nazis, just with different "superior races" ("the chosen people") whom they claim to represent and sub-humans ("human animals") whom they claim to be both inferior and a danger to them.
So it's absolutely natural for a pro-Zionist organization to side with other Nazi-like ideologies as long as the "superior" and "subhuman" ethnicities of both do not collide, and in this case they both share the view of the Northern African Islamic people as subhumans and they probably see their own "superior" races as being a kind of White - so White Jews and White Christians (if you have any doubt of this for the Zionist side, go check out how Israel treats Ethiopian Jews).
just to give historical context, Germany, Japan and Italy supported each other in their nazi-fascism for the exatc reason you already said. So there is no surprise that it is happening again with America and Israel
They just figure that this time, Jews will be far down enough on the list of "first they came for..." that MAGA will burn itself out before it gets to them.
You guys are lucky to have AOC. I'm a non-American that only knows her from memes and screenshots like this but I'm a fan. Especially compared to all the other dead fish.
I'm not an American, but isn't the problem not just the presidency? Like, even if she becomes president if the supreme court, congress, senate are republican controlled she'd be kneecapped.
::: spoiler the ADL
Anti-Defamation League, a Jewish non-governmental organization based in the USA
:::
... will now be known as the "Advanced Defamations League"
Exactly this. People still don't seem to grasp it, but they will soon. This is the end game. No need to pretend anymore, they got the thing they've been working towards for decades.
My only hope is that the GOP splinters over this kind of shit and destroys itself. But I'm not holding my breath.
So he literally turns around and does it a 2nd time.
How can anyone deny it now? There's no way this is coincidence, like he's just really awkward with gestures and was bad at throwing his hand in the air to the crowd. This can't be explained away.
Wtf bullshit argument or defense is he and his supporters going to spew out?
They all say he's such a genius, but he's unaware of how close this gesture is to a nazi salute? There's no way this can be defended. It's just too obvious.
It's called post-truth and gaslighting in some developments of the phenomenon. I think this is, among other things, an experiment coming from the Donald administration.
And there are people desperately trying to say he wasn't doing a nazi salute. I refuse to let someone tell me I'm not seeing what's right in front of my eyes.
Agreed but the problem is they're winning. They have the power to destroy education, enact laws, control media/propaganda, appoint judges, influence law enforcement, military.
Fight fucking how? I'm not saying give up by any means, but things are looking grim.
If you're a leftist, learn to shoot and buy a gun for self defense like all the conservatives? Honestly I don't know if that'd even help.
Even if you can't or aren't willing to do violence, there is always nonviolent resistance and civil disobedience. I wonder if there was a prominent figure of the civil rights movement who told us about that.
As soon as that prominent figure started talking about helping the lower classes achieve economic equality (or even just freedom), he was assassinated.
When I say fight I’m talking about non-violent resistance and violent but it’s increasingly looking like it’s going to be the latter. Fascists only understand one thing. Force.
Because you don't have to be smart to have a lot of money. I knew a kid in school, couldn't spell 'phone', had his mom do all his homework and projects, never took SATs, dumb as shit. He's an exec at JP Morgan now.
I can't even express in words how fucking stupid and cringe this guy is... That comic is some shit I would have found clever when I was 12 years old and my understanding of politics was 100% shaped by the Fox News that was constantly playing in my house. Imagine being a full-formed adult human, and thinking this was some kind of deep thought.
“This is just a distraction from [the class war / taxes / Russia / China / the Koreas / India / ... ]!”
“Allegedly, he seemingly did a gesture that resembles a fascist salute. He could've been having a heart attack and pointing at a paramedic. You don't know.”
“It’s a tic. He’s had it since he was a child. I read about it on this random screenshot of a news article from 2018.”
“The Roman Salute, as it is known amongst historians, can be seen in many statues. Here’s a link to one. Things have history, Alex. God. Not everything is nazis.”
“So his views are a little extreme. Most people would argue they’re vile. I certainly don’t agree with them, but people. Please. Civility and decorum must rule. I’d fight for his right to blahblahblah..."
"I'm sorry; we can't hear you over our Economic Anxiety. Groceries are too expensive and people are homeless! That's why we elected nazis. Please be more understanding of our extra special circumstances and ignorance."
"It's legal to do that in the USofA. Where is it not legal? Germany? Interesting! Gosh their freezepeach laws are a bit restrictive, eh? Controlling how we move our bodies? Sounds like something a nazi would want."
And on. And if you engage with it, they'll just turn on some kind of AI bot thingy to continue the "conversation," taking up even more space online.
Truly... They might be past that. Some of them at least. That was all for show so they can get to this point. This is the end game. They got what they wanted and can go mask off. Elon doing the salute is just the first evidence of that. Expect a whole lot more to come.
Man, I still remember everyone telling me I was over reacting when the Republicans cOiNcIdEnTaLlY had an Odal rune for a stage and that they weren't really Nazis.
One can only hope whatever insane shit these people are injecting themselves with in an attempt to become immortal, just wreaks complete havoc on their internal organs.
Granted, I never thought he'd get this far, but I've been saying for nearly a decade now that Musk is a lucky scammer who will do anything if it benefits himself.
I wonder how many people are left of the original musk groupies that thought musk was so cool and was going to save the world.
On the bright side, if we're remarking on history's propensity for repetition, consider how much the odds have just gone up that Elon's personal timeline now ends doused in gasoline and set alight in a ditch, like a pasty, doughy little pile of garbage.
I kinda get the feeling that part of this was a loyalty test for main stream media to see how they were going to report on something that was obviously a nazi salute.
Was it going to be "Musk is swatting at fly, the liberal media goes off the rails with crazy nazi conspiracies."
Or
"Musk is a fucking nazi, he needs to be deported"
Which is going to get the "love" of this administration?
Imagine how minimally functional your brain has to be to think this is anything other than a blatant sieg heil.
Now wrap your mind around the majority of voting Americans voting for this future.
The only advice I can give anyone at this point is to not hold too much hope for the future of this nation. Lower your expectations. It'll help you get through what's coming.
Are fox, newsmaxxx, and oan covering it as much as they should? Or are they mentioning it once at an off time so they can say “see we covered it” and then never mentioning it when people are actually watching?
Wolfenstein the new order and Wolfenstein the new colossus, this part i think is from the second but I played them back to back so they’re basically one game for me
The game is an alternate history in which the nazis win the war and take over the u.s and most of the planet. You’re part of the resistance, wish it wasn’t so close to reality
Don’t know if you’ve played Doom or Doom eternal but they’re both made by the same studio. So it’s a hyper violent gore fest like Doom but you’re killing Nazis instead of alien demons.
Also has one of my favourite cast of supporting characters in a game. A good fleshed out crew of misfits you actually care about.
The man fought so much against Pooh, I won't adress him with anything else. But he's certainly a Hitler.
Muskolini is good, too. However, it almost gives him some credit. Unlike Mussolini, who was the first proper fascist leader, Musk never 'invented' anything. Hitler just took the concept and got more famous with it, just like Musk did with Tesla.
Well, the first time they spent years watching the Nazis play out and profiting from the war by selling munitions and equipment to both sides before actually joining it. I'm not sure Japan is in the same place to get them moving into fight mode .. maybe North Korea, Russia or China though? The same kinda sanctions are in place.
And then afterwards they took the most lucrative and talented Nazis to the USA where they could work for the government and industry. I guess the anti-Nazi stance of the USA has always been relatively weak except in that one moment when they were forced to oppose it.
Well the thing about that second amendment, it was just to make sure no one was disarmed. You can't just go shoot Trump or Musk, you'll end up dead, or executed, or 20 years in solitary hell then executed. Everyone has to wait until it's so bad that consensus is reached on killing all the motherfuckers. This is why constitutions not written by intellectualish rebels, never have arms rights.
bro he was clearly slapping a fly on his chest and then throwing it away and then he turned around and did it again c'mon the radical left will say anyone is a nazi these days
I speculated a short while back that with Musk’s true dream of immortality seeming less plausible every year, he has turned his sights on being remembered by history.
I think I was right, and some sort of drug fueled edgelord logic has led him to conclude that fear is strong and universal, and being a cacking villain gets your name to “stick” with people the most.
Or his ridiculous luck has given him the world’s worst case of Main Character syndrome, and the game play that amuses his fried brain involves griefing the NPCs.
E: Musk is such an ass that I wouldn’t hesitate to suggest he did it deliberately to troll liberals and press. Not because he holds any actual nazi beliefs (though he absolutely could) but because he just wanted to stir the shit in the news.
That was an accident you libtard!! He just did something that really looked like a nazi salute... twice... b-but it wasnt a nazi salute!! y'all be calling anyone a nazi nowadays...
And look!!! kamala also did a nazi salute!!
A-And she definitely wasnt just waving her hand... uhhmm...
How are you even remotely serious about this line of questioning? I'm not going to entertain someone who considers the far right to be the better option. You utter moron.
I don't think they are a good option but your attitude right now sums up why Democrats lost to the person they claimed was the biggest moron of all time. Remember that whenever you call someone a moron, that you've proved to be an even bigger moron already.
Im not American. I dont need to remember anything about the ridiculous things you have said. You are clearly and plainly a moron. The democrats lost because a lot of Americans are morons like you. The vast majority of every developed country if the planet has been rolling their eyes at your stupidity for decades. Amazingly, you doubled down and made it worse at every step. Now you have nazis in charge. You somehow blame Kamala for this? I honestly don't know if there has ever been someone more stupid than you.
Not all Democrat voters, but a lot were incapable of even acknowledging that Genocide Joe was in mental decline before he dropped out. Heck some of them are still convinced he would have won despite the campaign now acknowledging that they predicted Trump would have gotten 400 electoral college votes had he stayed in.
Rather than have a quick primary to find a replacement, they coronated another genocide supporter. This was wholly unpopular with the public & people most likely to vote Democrat, with recent polls suggesting had Kamala deviated from Biden on Israel that she could have got 13 million more votes.
When people reminded them how unpopular genocide was before the election they were quick to ban or censor any dissenting opinions on the subject, rather than to call for Kamala to do anything different. They censored & ridiculed the most sensible voices which ended up costing them the election.
None of this supports your assertion that the commenter above helped get Trump elected?
recent polls suggesting [...]
I'd like to see those polls. This doesn't really make much sense to me. If you wanted someone to reduce casualties in Israel, why would you vote for Trump?
There were people protesting about genocide outside democrat rallies. Weird that no one was protesting about that outside Trump rallies.
I think it's a grave mischaracterization to say dissenting opinions on genocide were banned or censored. Since the dawn of time, campaigning politicians haven't wanted to talk about issues that they're unable or unwilling to solve.
I didn't vote for Trump, but I didn't vote for the genocide supporter Kamala either. I've saw countless opinions or any dissent when it came to Palestine get people banned from communities that were all pushing the same, "Kamala ran a flawless campaign" communities. Here you people are again unable to look in the mirror to figure out why you lost & helped Trump get reelected. You want to blame anyone & everyone, but can't look in the mirror to figure out why you lost so much support.
So you didn't vote for Kamala, criticised her campaign, and are here accusing Dem supporters of helping Trump get elected.
Sorry mate that's just all sorts of ass-backwards bonkers.
I don't see many people saying that Kamala ran a flawless campaign. It's pretty obvious that the Dems did a pretty terrible job, but to strut around saying everyone else helped Trump get elected just because they werent more critical of Kamala is just daft.
Oh shit, the leaders of the Democratic Party are on Lemmy? No wonder they lost, I wouldn't trust you Lemmings with running a gas station, never mind a country!
Everyone funded a genocide. If you paid taxes, you did too.
I'm not trying to excuse Biden for his love for Israel and material support for them, but singling out "the opposing party" as the issue here is missing the method of reform that's actually going to fix it. The issue is American politics and media, and the American system. Let's fix that. If you thought singling out the Democrats as the problem that needed to be got rid of was going to fix it, brother just wait, because you succeeded and your plan is going into action as of now.
I don't like Trump either but it looks like he did more to end the genocide than Biden was capable of doing. Heck, even Trump gets to take credit now for saving TikTok, a platform where approx. 80% are against the genocide in Palestine.
Canceling Biden's sanctions on Israel letting them have the funding they want to continue their genocide reeeeealy sounds like doing the opposite of "ending a genocide more than Joe did."
The same settlements that continued under Biden? It wasn't until 2024 that Biden claimed sanctions that targeted very few organizations but never targeted the actual government backing the settlements. Before you try to pretend that Biden never supported genocide through 2025, maybe you should do some more research. I am not fond of Trump & my point about the ceasefire & TikTok was that Democrats are incredibly inept to not have got it done before, letting Trump take credit. I can only hope for the best at this point.
Never said biden didn't support israel's genocide, just pointing out that the new guy is already undoing all the meager attempts to slow the genocide from the previous guy.
And yet here we are where he gets to take credit for bringing it back. Trump was even mentioned as getting credit whenever users opened the app. Like I said, Democrats are not all there... With AIPAC dollars, corporate donors & insider trading... They don't need to win, they just need you to believe if you donate enough they might be able to.
Dude we didn't vote for this asshole as part of the blue crowd. How the fuck you think the blue maga supporting crowd even exists because it doesn't.
I mean sure you might be one of the trolls doing a psyops but what the actual fuck horrible take is that.
This shit logic: Oh you're going to vote for someone that is currently slapping you in the face. Well if you support that you might as well just vote for the people that are going to shoot you in the face. So fucking dumb.
I mean, their notification window must be stacked, probably easy to miss this one. Also did I see they got banned somewhere else in this thread for trolling?
They seem to have a pretty strong opinion on this so I'm interested to hear what they think the actual solution is (or was assuming that line of attack isn't open any more).
I know very little about USian politics but I’m gonna ignore that comment. I don’t want to call your political literacy into doubt, but… sorry, I’m gonna have to.
Yes, the person seeing a literal Nazi salute from someone Trump is giving a lot of authority to, and using that as an excuse to attack the Democrats instead of saying "this is fucked up", is definately very concerned about genocide...
This, my friend, is a 400ton edgelord take. One could talk about the underlying analysis but my, your tone is the first thing that strikes me. No one Hi will suffer under this administration would understand this. Fishing for purity-vs-sheeples won't help anyone.
P. S. : In my book, the dems are awful, and I'm not even an US citizen, so I'm not directly concerned.
I just hope you're very young and will regret your wording one day.
fucking nazi asshole piece of shit
Wait, are we allowed to call them Nazis yet? Or is it still unnecessary vitriol?
Once they start openly heiling, yeah, that’s allowed.
They don't like the socialist part.
All true. But this doesn't contradict the fact that Republicans still don't like the word socialist.
Nope. He was just awkwardly swatting at a fly or something.
My grandfather used to kill Nazis. Seems like history is repeating itself.
It used to be okay to kill Nazi's on sight, as they are not only a threat to National Security, but a threat to humane values itself. Our grandfathers watched people die in droves for the chance to kill a Nazi. Now? You'll probably be shot or arrested by police for killing a Nazi.
Yes of course. Nazis are going to protect their own.
Wow. I was willing to believe that the still pictures were just perfectly timed to make it look like something it wasn't. But it totally is a Nazi salute.
Twice.
Yeah, this was the first time I saw it in motion. How anyone could try to spin this as anything else is wild. We're to the part in 1984 where we're told to reject the evidence of our eyes and ears...
The ADL is defending him. Bootlickers.
Fuck the ADL
I was on the fence about them for past shenanigans but this is the final nail in the coffin. My friends are now telling me that musk did not, in fact do a Nazi salute because his fingers weren't pointed the right way
Ask your friends why they're so familiar with the proper performance of the nazi salute.
You should get footage of all those moments. Be neat to see em all lined up. Write up a nice summary of the context for each one.
Almost like taking still shots of someone in motion can make them look like they're doing crazy shit... So how about you make them gifs instead so we can see the context?
Also, make sure to add this one:
Lol.
There's video kiddo.
He did it more than once. With zeal.
It was not a still image captured as he waved to the crowd. No matter how much you want it to be.
Oh no here comes the downvotes because this place is exactly like Reddit.
Googled it earlier to see, says the heart motion is never involved, that's the American pledge salute
Nobody does the Bellamy salute anymore and I want you think think very hard about why.
No need to think. One can just read:
Edit: I'll keep the links, but I must call spade a spade: Elon did the nazi salute. Period.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute
Also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_salute (also known as Fascist salute)
Show me a video of them throwing and holding any kind of salute and not waving. You can skip Hillary.
What's that mean, skip the one you know I'd find first? Whatever, bud, done here with you.
Quit trying to muddy the waters - we have eyes and everyone knows that Musk is a Nazi.
Point one finger upwards at their face.
the ADL is a zionist organization that supports genocide. they're not bootlickers. they're the sole of the boot itself.
ADL do not care about anti semitism at all. Their only concern is anti zionism.
Zionism is the same kind of ideology as Nazis, just with different "superior races" ("the chosen people") whom they claim to represent and sub-humans ("human animals") whom they claim to be both inferior and a danger to them.
So it's absolutely natural for a pro-Zionist organization to side with other Nazi-like ideologies as long as the "superior" and "subhuman" ethnicities of both do not collide, and in this case they both share the view of the Northern African Islamic people as subhumans and they probably see their own "superior" races as being a kind of White - so White Jews and White Christians (if you have any doubt of this for the Zionist side, go check out how Israel treats Ethiopian Jews).
just to give historical context, Germany, Japan and Italy supported each other in their nazi-fascism for the exatc reason you already said. So there is no surprise that it is happening again with America and Israel
Even Hilter has his Jewish supporters Verband nationaldeutscher Juden
History doesn't always rhyme sometimes it repeats the exact beats.
Just when I thought the ADL couldn't be anymore useless, here's REAL Anti-Semitism and they're not doing anything about it.
They just figure that this time, Jews will be far down enough on the list of "first they came for..." that MAGA will burn itself out before it gets to them.
That's sadly a viable strategy if you're cis.
I mean, i didn't have Latina's calling it nazi and Jews being like "nuh uh" on my 2025 bingo card
Worse than not doing anything about it, they're excusing it
You guys are lucky to have AOC. I'm a non-American that only knows her from memes and screenshots like this but I'm a fan. Especially compared to all the other dead fish.
If I was her I would be leaving the country tonight
If she isn't the next Dem presidential candidate, then they might as well shut their fucking doors right now.
I'm not an American, but isn't the problem not just the presidency? Like, even if she becomes president if the supreme court, congress, senate are republican controlled she'd be kneecapped.
Yes, but none of that other stuff will be possible without somebody worth voting for.
The choice will say a lot about the party. Change it from the "more of the same" party to the "let's fix this shit" party.
I honestly fear for her safety.
It wouldn't be a delicate situation if ONE GROUP WASN'T DOING NAZI SHIT
Good for AOC, but I honestly fear for her safety in the coming years. I hope she can stay safe.
Same ADL that says anti-genocide protests are categorically foreign agents funded by Iran and Hamas.
Disappointing that the only funding they gave my local protest was sidewalk chalk and some home printed flyers to tape up.
Same here, AIPAC lobbied against a locally popular Rep after they criticized Israel though. It worked and they lost their seat to a more friendly Rep.
::: spoiler the ADL Anti-Defamation League, a Jewish non-governmental organization based in the USA :::
... will now be known as the "Advanced Defamations League"
Are their last words going to be "see? You were overreacting." right before someone pushes a button on their gas chamber?
Or have they already booked their tickets to some recently-confiscated house in the West Bank?
Neither. They have money. They will not be subjected to the gas chambers and will live their lives free of consequences.
these gas lights aren't even lit. why are you making such a big deal?
this is obviously sarcasm
How did he make the Nazi salute look somehow even MORE uncool than the -9999999999999999999999 it was already at.
Because he made it with the expression of a 16 year old in furious heat.
Dork MAGA continues to live up to the name, and it would be funny if people weren't losing their lives over it.
Well, the nazis didn't have their cum-face on while doing it.
To be fair, the SS had drip. Hugo Boss leather trenchcoats... They looked good while being the absolute worst human beings in modern history.
They looked good, they drove great cars, they were just garbage
Until now*
I think it was the biting lips.
The nazi salute is pretty cool, not the meaning though.
Reminder that Fox News declared Michelle Obama a terrorist over a fist bump.
Wait, what?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_vmQrTi3aM
They do claim that they're nOt lIkE fOx nEwS aNyMoRe, though.
One might be associated to a minor ethnic group looking for representation because they never had anything.
The other is associated to a fascist regime that destroyed the world and killed millions.
No need to hide it anymore, huh?
I think that's why they had it indoors. Remove the opportunity for the people to dissent in the moment.
Probably multiple reasons, but if I had to guess, it was mostly about security for all of the billionaires in attendance.
Exactly this. People still don't seem to grasp it, but they will soon. This is the end game. No need to pretend anymore, they got the thing they've been working towards for decades.
My only hope is that the GOP splinters over this kind of shit and destroys itself. But I'm not holding my breath.
So he literally turns around and does it a 2nd time.
How can anyone deny it now? There's no way this is coincidence, like he's just really awkward with gestures and was bad at throwing his hand in the air to the crowd. This can't be explained away.
Wtf bullshit argument or defense is he and his supporters going to spew out?
They all say he's such a genius, but he's unaware of how close this gesture is to a nazi salute? There's no way this can be defended. It's just too obvious.
Easy. Bad faith.
I think many of them just won't bother. Why would they need to? They got control, no need to pretend anymore.
It's called post-truth and gaslighting in some developments of the phenomenon. I think this is, among other things, an experiment coming from the Donald administration.
Yup.
Just like Nazis did. Once to the crowd. Then turn around and once to the Fuhrer, ranking officer at the event, or Nazi flag.
He'll claim that the gesture went along with his words of his heart going out to people.
Press X to doubt.
Not gonna lie, my eyes bugged out when I saw that. I knew masks were falling off, but this was too on the nose even for my expectations
Same. Already? Couldn't wait a single day?
And there are people desperately trying to say he wasn't doing a nazi salute. I refuse to let someone tell me I'm not seeing what's right in front of my eyes.
Who are you Goin to believe, the mass media or your own lying eyes?!
Fuck Elon Musk. Knowing I’ll be able to piss on his grave and Trumps grave keeps me going. These fucking fascist need to be fought tooth and nail.
I fear it's not going to stop.
When Trump dies another, less stupid more insidious version will arise.
Oh it’s definitely not going to stop but that’s no reason to not fight now and in the future. Fuck Nazis. Fuck fascists.
Agreed but the problem is they're winning. They have the power to destroy education, enact laws, control media/propaganda, appoint judges, influence law enforcement, military.
Fight fucking how? I'm not saying give up by any means, but things are looking grim.
If you're a leftist, learn to shoot and buy a gun for self defense like all the conservatives? Honestly I don't know if that'd even help.
Even if you can't or aren't willing to do violence, there is always nonviolent resistance and civil disobedience. I wonder if there was a prominent figure of the civil rights movement who told us about that.
As soon as that prominent figure started talking about helping the lower classes achieve economic equality (or even just freedom), he was assassinated.
How do you non-violently resist wealth inequality ?
When I say fight I’m talking about non-violent resistance and violent but it’s increasingly looking like it’s going to be the latter. Fascists only understand one thing. Force.
There's no guarantee that the next one will be less stupid.
That doesn't mean that the next fascist will have less support. Or do less damage.
Stupid is hard to fight.
I'm going to take extra good care of my health in the hopes that if I outlive him this will be on my bucket list.
Pre-bucket listing, that’s an advanced bucket list strat
A lot of people in fascist countries don't get to live long enough to piss on the fascist leader's grave.
I wonder how trump feels that the most viral thing about his inauguration wasn't him
If he has any sense that overcomes his pride, he should be grateful that someone else is taking some flak for him.
Well, we know he doesn't have any sense, but if he did, it would most certainly be overcome by his need to be the center of attention.
Guys you are just too left. Under any other circumstance a nazi salute and flirting with AfD is considered leftist by a comfortable margin.
How is this idiot so fucking dumb.
Dumb people have a lot of undeserved confidence in themselves. Smart people are rarely 100% sure if anything because everything is complicated.
Guy caught a lucky break at the right time and thinks he's king shit on turd Island
how is he that dumb and has that much money
Capitalism and generational wealth.
Because you don't have to be smart to have a lot of money. I knew a kid in school, couldn't spell 'phone', had his mom do all his homework and projects, never took SATs, dumb as shit. He's an exec at JP Morgan now.
My, feeling brave today are we
Yep, Hitler was a communist after all. (/s)
I can't even express in words how fucking stupid and cringe this guy is... That comic is some shit I would have found clever when I was 12 years old and my understanding of politics was 100% shaped by the Fox News that was constantly playing in my house. Imagine being a full-formed adult human, and thinking this was some kind of deep thought.
I hate this fucking timeline so goddamn much
Well, get ready for a whole lot of gaslighting. He’s going to say that’s not what he was doing and his lil army of trolls are going to toe the line.
He says he was doing the Roman salute, but that’s exactly where the nazis got it so…
Where does he say it's the Roman salute? That's litterally the exact same thing as the Nazi salute.
Even if it was the roman salute, it would still be a fascist salute.
And there is a reason why people say Nazi-Fascism.
Because a Nazi IS a Fascist.
And both must be banned from public discourse!
Yeah but WHERE does he admit it's the Roman salute
Spot on. We all know exactly what we saw. But...
“This is just a distraction from [the class war / taxes / Russia / China / the Koreas / India / ... ]!”
“Allegedly, he seemingly did a gesture that resembles a fascist salute. He could've been having a heart attack and pointing at a paramedic. You don't know.”
“It’s a tic. He’s had it since he was a child. I read about it on this random screenshot of a news article from 2018.”
“The Roman Salute, as it is known amongst historians, can be seen in many statues. Here’s a link to one. Things have history, Alex. God. Not everything is nazis.”
“So his views are a little extreme. Most people would argue they’re vile. I certainly don’t agree with them, but people. Please. Civility and decorum must rule. I’d fight for his right to blahblahblah..."
"I'm sorry; we can't hear you over our Economic Anxiety. Groceries are too expensive and people are homeless! That's why we elected nazis. Please be more understanding of our extra special circumstances and ignorance."
"It's legal to do that in the USofA. Where is it not legal? Germany? Interesting! Gosh their freezepeach laws are a bit restrictive, eh? Controlling how we move our bodies? Sounds like something a nazi would want."
And on. And if you engage with it, they'll just turn on some kind of AI bot thingy to continue the "conversation," taking up even more space online.
Lmao spot on
Truly... They might be past that. Some of them at least. That was all for show so they can get to this point. This is the end game. They got what they wanted and can go mask off. Elon doing the salute is just the first evidence of that. Expect a whole lot more to come.
Im not certain that they still need to gaslight.
It's the bootlicking media doing the gaslighting. They, Musk and his people won't bother anymore.
Man, I still remember everyone telling me I was over reacting when the Republicans cOiNcIdEnTaLlY had an Odal rune for a stage and that they weren't really Nazis.
God damn, he is such a cringe-inducing edge lord!
He’s definitely on something here other than uncut white nationalism, right?
White Pow(d)er
One doesn't excuse the other.
Oh, if anything it's even more revealing. I've been out of my mind on shrooms and never did any Nazi salutes.
The nazis were big into meth. Have you tried that for a few decades in a row?
I take therapeutic adderall sometimes for more ADHD, and was on it for a couple years straight at one point, not one nazi salute. Not even close.
Him and Bezos for sure were on something.
Oh shit - what did Bezos do??
https://youtube.com/shorts/X0yxyDXTGrE?si=u69q1oaGTfS2xHL8
The caption made me laugh before the video even loaded.
One can only hope whatever insane shit these people are injecting themselves with in an attempt to become immortal, just wreaks complete havoc on their internal organs.
Who cares?
So heil Hitler it is, now?
Granted, I never thought he'd get this far, but I've been saying for nearly a decade now that Musk is a lucky scammer who will do anything if it benefits himself.
I wonder how many people are left of the original musk groupies that thought musk was so cool and was going to save the world.
Do you still believe? Are you still that stupid?
On the bright side, if we're remarking on history's propensity for repetition, consider how much the odds have just gone up that Elon's personal timeline now ends doused in gasoline and set alight in a ditch, like a pasty, doughy little pile of garbage.
Nope.
I kinda get the feeling that part of this was a loyalty test for main stream media to see how they were going to report on something that was obviously a nazi salute.
Was it going to be "Musk is swatting at fly, the liberal media goes off the rails with crazy nazi conspiracies." Or "Musk is a fucking nazi, he needs to be deported"
Which is going to get the "love" of this administration?
We've attained levels of cringe previously thought impossible.
We’re through the cringing glass here, people.
You might even say Kristallnacht.
Cringetallnacht
A guy who grew up under apartheid in SA is racist and a fascist,, who knew??
Our times Henry Ford, I guess
Yeah, X is sort of his Dearborn Independent. Only that never became state-controlled media the way X now has with Musk becoming part of the state.
Imagine how minimally functional your brain has to be to think this is anything other than a blatant sieg heil.
Now wrap your mind around the majority of voting Americans voting for this future.
The only advice I can give anyone at this point is to not hold too much hope for the future of this nation. Lower your expectations. It'll help you get through what's coming.
At least it's all over the news, seems like literally every news organization is reporting on it, even small ones.
Show everyone what these idiots voted for.
Are fox, newsmaxxx, and oan covering it as much as they should? Or are they mentioning it once at an off time so they can say “see we covered it” and then never mentioning it when people are actually watching?
Any company advertising on X, buying Teslas, using SpaceX, etc is okay with working with Nazis.
That needs to be the message here. Make it clear to all his business associates that we will not forget how they react.
It's like nobody is even trying to kill him.
He can't wear his kid as a human shield at all times.
Yeah, that's undeniably obvious what it is
Wait… that really happened? Reality just never stops to surprise me.
This was one of the most insane scenes in a game I’ve ever seen. I love this game
May I ask what game this is?
Wolfenstein the new order and Wolfenstein the new colossus, this part i think is from the second but I played them back to back so they’re basically one game for me
I've had these in my library for years now, maybe it's time to fire it up for that Nazi-blasting catharsis.
The game is an alternate history in which the nazis win the war and take over the u.s and most of the planet. You’re part of the resistance, wish it wasn’t so close to reality
Thanks! I dug a little deeper and I must say, it's pretty intriguing, I'm honestly considering trying it out.
Don’t know if you’ve played Doom or Doom eternal but they’re both made by the same studio. So it’s a hyper violent gore fest like Doom but you’re killing Nazis instead of alien demons.
Also has one of my favourite cast of supporting characters in a game. A good fleshed out crew of misfits you actually care about.
What game is that?
Wolfenstein 2
Time to play it, if you kill the Nazis ofc
Yes that's the entire point of the game. Nice mix of stealth and blasting your way trough hordes of them
a fucking masterpiece, btw
This one?
Is this real?
More video with him speaking
So what to call him now, Muskler? Muskolini?
I vote for Xitler!
Which is funny but in Greek, this sounds exactly like 'Hitler'
I see this as a feature, not a bug.
That's what some call the dictator of China already. I like Muskolini.
The man fought so much against Pooh, I won't adress him with anything else. But he's certainly a Hitler.
Muskolini is good, too. However, it almost gives him some credit. Unlike Mussolini, who was the first proper fascist leader, Musk never 'invented' anything. Hitler just took the concept and got more famous with it, just like Musk did with Tesla.
It sounds stupid. It fits prefectly.
There was a time when Americans fought Nazis. Maybe Americans need to do that again, instead of watching this play out.
Well, the first time they spent years watching the Nazis play out and profiting from the war by selling munitions and equipment to both sides before actually joining it. I'm not sure Japan is in the same place to get them moving into fight mode .. maybe North Korea, Russia or China though? The same kinda sanctions are in place.
And then afterwards they took the most lucrative and talented Nazis to the USA where they could work for the government and industry. I guess the anti-Nazi stance of the USA has always been relatively weak except in that one moment when they were forced to oppose it.
Well the thing about that second amendment, it was just to make sure no one was disarmed. You can't just go shoot Trump or Musk, you'll end up dead, or executed, or 20 years in solitary hell then executed. Everyone has to wait until it's so bad that consensus is reached on killing all the motherfuckers. This is why constitutions not written by intellectualish rebels, never have arms rights.
Edolf Musk?
Elon Fatler
We have to find whatever name bothers him the most, then call him that exclusively and repeatedly.
Where?
Not that I don't believe you but I just HAVE to see this, this is fucking insane
https://i.imgur.com/Kkm7fCF.mp4
It just keeps getting worse.
Oh give it a year or two.
Holy shit...
https://youtu.be/e2bbb-6Clhs
I don’t know…
…and that says enough already.
Looks like it unfortunately
Must be, I saw it on Facebork.
Wonder what all the people who voted for this are thinking. Wonder if it's any different from what the people who enabled this are thinking.
"Oh cool, we don't have to hide it anymore"
"I guess we're Nazis, too."
If all the useful idiots had the capacity to make this realization, it would have happened already.
Are we the baddies?
Twice.
Thrice.
For once he's doing it wrong, not that it matters, and secondly he looks like he came while doing it.
Jesus fucking christ...
So.....when do we send The Bastards?
This is ego-boasting, partisan intimidation and humiliation, right?
My instinct to this is to look away, scroll past, because it can't be happening...
Anti-fascism in the US is in no way equipped to politically deal with this.
The strategic alternative doesn't really exist...
bro he was clearly slapping a fly on his chest and then throwing it away and then he turned around and did it again c'mon the radical left will say anyone is a nazi these days
Well there are always lots of flies around shit
I speculated a short while back that with Musk’s true dream of immortality seeming less plausible every year, he has turned his sights on being remembered by history.
I think I was right, and some sort of drug fueled edgelord logic has led him to conclude that fear is strong and universal, and being a cacking villain gets your name to “stick” with people the most.
Or his ridiculous luck has given him the world’s worst case of Main Character syndrome, and the game play that amuses his fried brain involves griefing the NPCs.
Holy shit that’s some good cringe
A Sieg Sauer could fix that
Rusty spoon would be more satisfying.
Wow. That’s bad.
E: Musk is such an ass that I wouldn’t hesitate to suggest he did it deliberately to troll liberals and press. Not because he holds any actual nazi beliefs (though he absolutely could) but because he just wanted to stir the shit in the news.
Pack it up, boys. This experiment is over.
That was an accident you libtard!! He just did something that really looked like a nazi salute... twice... b-but it wasnt a nazi salute!! y'all be calling anyone a nazi nowadays...
And look!!! kamala also did a nazi salute!!
A-And she definitely wasnt just waving her hand... uhhmm...
/s
The left and the right, the only two kinds of people in the world. Two homogeneous groups, two hive minds
God I hate those labels
Looks like virtue signaling to me, except it's for nazi virtues
Fucking UMMMMM.....
Is he flexing his "shoot someone on 5th Ave" moment?
Now he can use the government to make his financial empire/we-chat clone "x".
Bruh
Guy who grew up in SA during apartheid is a fascist and racist. Who know?
He announced that he's going to the dark side of the moon to meet back with his friends.
Not a Nazi salute.
When the opposing party funded a genocide, this is what you get.
Go fuck yourself.
Bro, why you upset? You helped Trump get re-elected. You should be happy with yourself.
Didn't take long for you to fuck yourself.
Do you wish Kamala wouldn't have supported genocide so she would have got elected?
How are you even remotely serious about this line of questioning? I'm not going to entertain someone who considers the far right to be the better option. You utter moron.
I don't think they are a good option but your attitude right now sums up why Democrats lost to the person they claimed was the biggest moron of all time. Remember that whenever you call someone a moron, that you've proved to be an even bigger moron already.
Im not American. I dont need to remember anything about the ridiculous things you have said. You are clearly and plainly a moron. The democrats lost because a lot of Americans are morons like you. The vast majority of every developed country if the planet has been rolling their eyes at your stupidity for decades. Amazingly, you doubled down and made it worse at every step. Now you have nazis in charge. You somehow blame Kamala for this? I honestly don't know if there has ever been someone more stupid than you.
So you're calling them a moron?
I'll bite. What's the thinking here? How did Dem voters help Trump get elected?
Not all Democrat voters, but a lot were incapable of even acknowledging that Genocide Joe was in mental decline before he dropped out. Heck some of them are still convinced he would have won despite the campaign now acknowledging that they predicted Trump would have gotten 400 electoral college votes had he stayed in.
Rather than have a quick primary to find a replacement, they coronated another genocide supporter. This was wholly unpopular with the public & people most likely to vote Democrat, with recent polls suggesting had Kamala deviated from Biden on Israel that she could have got 13 million more votes.
When people reminded them how unpopular genocide was before the election they were quick to ban or censor any dissenting opinions on the subject, rather than to call for Kamala to do anything different. They censored & ridiculed the most sensible voices which ended up costing them the election.
None of this supports your assertion that the commenter above helped get Trump elected?
I'd like to see those polls. This doesn't really make much sense to me. If you wanted someone to reduce casualties in Israel, why would you vote for Trump?
There were people protesting about genocide outside democrat rallies. Weird that no one was protesting about that outside Trump rallies.
I think it's a grave mischaracterization to say dissenting opinions on genocide were banned or censored. Since the dawn of time, campaigning politicians haven't wanted to talk about issues that they're unable or unwilling to solve.
I didn't vote for Trump, but I didn't vote for the genocide supporter Kamala either. I've saw countless opinions or any dissent when it came to Palestine get people banned from communities that were all pushing the same, "Kamala ran a flawless campaign" communities. Here you people are again unable to look in the mirror to figure out why you lost & helped Trump get reelected. You want to blame anyone & everyone, but can't look in the mirror to figure out why you lost so much support.
So you didn't vote for Kamala, criticised her campaign, and are here accusing Dem supporters of helping Trump get elected.
Sorry mate that's just all sorts of ass-backwards bonkers.
I don't see many people saying that Kamala ran a flawless campaign. It's pretty obvious that the Dems did a pretty terrible job, but to strut around saying everyone else helped Trump get elected just because they werent more critical of Kamala is just daft.
Oh shit, the leaders of the Democratic Party are on Lemmy? No wonder they lost, I wouldn't trust you Lemmings with running a gas station, never mind a country!
Everyone funded a genocide. If you paid taxes, you did too.
I'm not trying to excuse Biden for his love for Israel and material support for them, but singling out "the opposing party" as the issue here is missing the method of reform that's actually going to fix it. The issue is American politics and media, and the American system. Let's fix that. If you thought singling out the Democrats as the problem that needed to be got rid of was going to fix it, brother just wait, because you succeeded and your plan is going into action as of now.
When you can't properly place blame this is what you get. Enjoy the boot, pigfucker.
Did you vote for the genocide-enabler?
I'm not even American and all you are is ridiculous
Which country are you from?
Do you even see what you just did?
No I didn't vote for Trump.
I don't like Trump either but it looks like he did more to end the genocide than Biden was capable of doing. Heck, even Trump gets to take credit now for saving TikTok, a platform where approx. 80% are against the genocide in Palestine.
ah yes, famously people who give Nazi salutes are anti genocide.
I hate Musk too but Biden was the President that kept sending money to murder 70k+ civilians, approx 25k children.
I'm sure Trump will make things better for people living in Gaza...
https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-cancels-sanctions-far-right-israeli-settlers-occupied-west-bank-2025-01-21/
Are you sure about that? https://denvergazette.com/news/nation-world/trump-cancels-sanctions-on-far-right-israeli-settlers-on-occupied-west-bank/article_16677638-637b-5d6f-a262-a551f8767f38.html
Canceling Biden's sanctions on Israel letting them have the funding they want to continue their genocide reeeeealy sounds like doing the opposite of "ending a genocide more than Joe did."
The same settlements that continued under Biden? It wasn't until 2024 that Biden claimed sanctions that targeted very few organizations but never targeted the actual government backing the settlements. Before you try to pretend that Biden never supported genocide through 2025, maybe you should do some more research. I am not fond of Trump & my point about the ceasefire & TikTok was that Democrats are incredibly inept to not have got it done before, letting Trump take credit. I can only hope for the best at this point.
Never said biden didn't support israel's genocide, just pointing out that the new guy is already undoing all the meager attempts to slow the genocide from the previous guy.
The App that Trump pushed to ban in the first place?
And yet here we are where he gets to take credit for bringing it back. Trump was even mentioned as getting credit whenever users opened the app. Like I said, Democrats are not all there... With AIPAC dollars, corporate donors & insider trading... They don't need to win, they just need you to believe if you donate enough they might be able to.
Fuck off.
And you think Orange Butt Boy and President Elon are going to make it better?
Did I say that? It sounds like you were part of the blue MAGA genocide-supporting crowd that helped him get re-elected.
Dude we didn't vote for this asshole as part of the blue crowd. How the fuck you think the blue maga supporting crowd even exists because it doesn't.
I mean sure you might be one of the trolls doing a psyops but what the actual fuck horrible take is that.
This shit logic: Oh you're going to vote for someone that is currently slapping you in the face. Well if you support that you might as well just vote for the people that are going to shoot you in the face. So fucking dumb.
Did you demand Kamala stop supporting genocide, or demand everyone fall into line instead?
There's a little tiny hill with a little tiny you dying quietly of ignorance.
Nobody is taking you seriously dude.
No, no one is taking Democrats seriously anymore because of people like you which is why they lost... to Donald Trump
We'll see about that. Nazi.
Out of curiosity what did you do to not help Trump get elected?
.....20hrs later, crickets from little John....
I mean, their notification window must be stacked, probably easy to miss this one. Also did I see they got banned somewhere else in this thread for trolling?
They seem to have a pretty strong opinion on this so I'm interested to hear what they think the actual solution is (or was assuming that line of attack isn't open any more).
Thank goodness the Nazi’s never got into genocide…
Lucky escape, that
A lot of Democrats are fascists
You’re a nazi
No I didn't vote for the genocide supporter.
And look at the Nazi in Congress now.
Yeah lots of them. The Democrats kept voting against the Jewish Congressman's, Bernie Sanders, resolutions to stop funding the genocide.
Why exactly did you feel the need to call him Jewish there?
What happened to the twin that was removed from you with the rest of your brain?
You have a complete disconnect from reality & live in a fantasy world. When is the last time you were committed?
I know very little about USian politics but I’m gonna ignore that comment. I don’t want to call your political literacy into doubt, but… sorry, I’m gonna have to.
bro you're a straight up moron.
Yes, the person seeing a literal Nazi salute from someone Trump is giving a lot of authority to, and using that as an excuse to attack the Democrats instead of saying "this is fucked up", is definately very concerned about genocide...
It looks like you got exactly what you wanted. By supporting a pro genocide candidate you got a Nazi as a result.
Says the person refusing to be upset about the literal Nazi here.
I'm more upset that you are complaining about the person you helped get elected
How exactly did I help get Trump elected?
When
the opposing party funded a genocidethe election was literally rigged this is what you get ftfyThis, my friend, is a 400ton edgelord take. One could talk about the underlying analysis but my, your tone is the first thing that strikes me. No one Hi will suffer under this administration would understand this. Fishing for purity-vs-sheeples won't help anyone.
P. S. : In my book, the dems are awful, and I'm not even an US citizen, so I'm not directly concerned.
I just hope you're very young and will regret your wording one day.
I didn't vote for the genocide & Cheney supporter, so no I won't have regrets.
Yeah, you "stopped" the genocide abroad, time for domestic genocide!
Yes why should they have all the fun