The Worst Person You Know Made a Great Point; Asmongold Asks Elon Musk To Prove Legitimacy of His ‘Path of Exile 2’ Account
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If Musk is ready to lie about his gaming achievements then can we really trust anything that comes out from his mouth.
I mean who cares if Musk is bad at POE2 but the fact that he goes to such lengths to lie about how good he is in a videogame tells a lot about his character and personality.
Have you heard his opinions on chess? He doesn’t play because it’s too easy.
That’s exactly what someone who sucks at it would say.
Wonder how he'd fare against trump at golf.
They would tie. Would take them each 18 strokes for 18 holes I’m sure.
Oh there would be plenty of strokes, I’ll grant you that.
Fucking gold
They'd tie with a perfect score of -18, having somehow gotten a hole in one each course without even touching a club!
That's not how golf works but I like where your head is at.
I know it isn't, that was the joke, they scored an impossible score by somehow managing the get the ball in the hole with less than 0 swings.
He's a narcissist. Of course he's the best at this and everything else he does. Any evidence to the contrary is division by zero.
narcissism is a lack of empathy and conpassion. it is not thinking you are better than others.
An example of how a narcissist would think would be “I barely know anything about this subject and you know even less than I do so you must be a fucking idiot if you know less than my dumb ass”
Lack of empathy is a sign of narcissism sure, but so is a pathological need for praise and to feel superior to others.
Yes and that need stems from deep insecurity. Narcissists are insecure, but don't show it. Their whole superiority act is just that, an act. Very convincing, because it's what they -want- to be, and when people praise them it's like a confirmation. They're addicted to it. That's why they lash out at anyone who sees through it. When you praise them, they'll treat you like the best friend/lover they've ever had, but once you take away the praise.. well they become a nightmare.
See it like this: nobody who is actually self-confident needs to get a constant stream of praise to be happy.
Praise yes but not the feeling of superiority to others as NPD comes from self-loathing.
Not sure why you're getting downvoted. You're right.
Because it's not true. Narcissistic personality disorder may included self loathing but it is not a requirement.
source
Musk only needs 5. One could easily argue he has all of them.
That's funny. I've only ever known 2 of them personally and they have all of it. The whole damn package. Yeah, that wasn't fun.
Source.
So. I guess it's not actually clear yet which one of us is right (whether it's ever-present or not).
All I can say is that in my (limited) experience they have extreme reactions to any sort of criticism, they take almost everything personal, and this just doesn't happen with people who are actually really self-confident. I know plenty of confident people and they can handle criticism just fine without throwing huge fucking temper tantrums. It came to a point where I was walking on eggshells trying to never say anything that could be interpreted as criticism, because their fragile ego couldn't handle it and they'd turn it around on me. Like.. trying to make themselves feel better by putting me down. Anyway, I'll stop dragging my personal issues in here, and just say: perhaps some day we'll have a definitive answer.
Edit: typo.
Happens often here.
I'm honestly shocked that you have to ask someone if you can trust him.
He is without a doubt the least trustworthy person on the entire planet. Even less so than Putin i would say.
Musk has his loyal fanbase who have been impressed by his achievements with Paypal, Tesla and SpaceX.
Honestly he seemed all right before 2020's but after that he's slowly become more and more radicalized.
Fortunately his behaviour is alienating a lot of his fanbase, unfortunately they're getting replaced by more far right fans.
It's like what Trump would do if he were younger and cared about video games.
He made a post using command line lingo too, but anyone with even basic knowledge of those commands can tell you that both the syntax and the way he alludes to them are wrong.
It's the equivalent of slinging a guitar in a picture to look cool but pressing the side with the strings against your belly.
Isn't that suggesting he has the wokemind virus? Lol
yes
The guy can't miss an opportunity to demonstrate his character and personality. This seems both extraneous and consistent - it's more of the same data. I think we've got his number.
I bet if Musk played DBD he'd be the first one on the damn hook, every, fucking, time.
My first instinct was to poke fun but it's actually important to keep breaking this overpaid influencer's false image. He's actively using it to push his harmful agenda.
I can‘t even tell for sure who of the two you’re talking aboout but I agree either way.
Yes
Have you not noticed any of the many things Musk has said and done to suppress things like civil and worker's rights? How he's sucking Trump's cock so he can dictate policy to the country? How he turned Twitter into an actual Nazi mouthpiece? That's what he's using his image to try to push.
Among other things:
Basically your bog-standard right-wing corporate fascist grab bag. He's using his platforms (in all meaning of the word) to push that internationally.
Check the first comment on this turd nugget from last week: https://x.com/RealAlexJones/status/1877066245192794146
Zack is one of my favorite (if not THE favorite) streamer in the world.
Rather than taking the time to try and research Elon, it's probably faster to just read the Wikipedia entries on the German Nazi party and apartheid South Africa. That should give you a pretty good idea of what he believes and is pushing.
FYI, Vice is now a far-right mouthpiece https://theintercept.com/2024/11/19/vice-news-right-wing-trumpism/
The craziest part of that article is
So two of the three Vice media founders are now far right? I tried to find out more about Suroosh Alvi, the third founder, but didn't see much. Though on his X (🤢) he posts and reports a bunch of pro Gaza stuff.
I shouldn't be surprised cuz it looks like they all got rich off Vice, but still.
Their new podcast style conspiracy videos are just terrible, he comes across as a complete moron.
I feel like I remember them focusing on the sensation around news and not the actual news. Anything news worthy was included as a matter of context.
I felt like Vice was as if Beavis and Butthead were reporters, they went to the heart of a story that wasn't getting much coverage and asked about people's butts.
Shane has intense yuck vibes if you meet him IRL
Not a surprise, dude gives off those vibes in videos as well.
Some of us remember when Vice was a mean-spirited, local magazine that made fun of the way New Yorkers dressed.
Not really surprising that those people turned out to be scumbags.
I mostly remember it as reporting abput random ass topics "transsexual ketamine dealers of Uruguay" type of stuff.
but the tolerent left told me asmon is far right
Such a /technology/ post.
There is technology in it, like a computer game.
It’s got Elon, so it must be Technology. ;)
He invented technology
Actually it’s a dumb point because everyone and their mom already know he got boosted. Both of them should shut up and stop showing their face in public thank you very much.
I want the account sharer banned though.
Both of these people could fall off a cliff in a burning Tesla and nothing of value would be lost.
That's how you get forest fires though.
More than there already are?
There are plenty of cliffs in deserts :)
I'd mourn the lithium.
Hey, don't disregard the value of scrap metal!
The scrap metal was MADE in the event!
In an interesting plot twist, it would actually be a net positive for said Tesla brand in the long run, too.
Who the fuck cares. Elon, is average moron playing average game. If this was something important, I could understand, but this is nothing more than attention whoring.
Asmon isn't even close to to the top of the worst people I know. What even is that title?
Who the hell is Asmon? I thought the headline was referencing Elon.
It's Asmongold. He's a relatively popular gaming streamer who also does commentary but some of his political opinions have been a bit questionable.
Ah alright, I've yet to watch a single streamer.
Keep doing that tbh
Ha! I was literally gonna put down" keep it that way" and your comment popped up. Great mind!
It's a reference to an Onion headline
The funniest part to me is that the wealthiest person in the world is playing a f2p game.
It's paid early access. Everything is wiped once it's fully released, then its f2p.
Oh I see, this is PoE2, for whatever reason I missed the "2", thought we were talking about the first one. My bad.
I guess because VICE is hard right now they view Asmongold as somebody really bad?
Yeah, what a joke. Especially when Musk is right there in the headline 😞.
The weird thing is like, this whole situation could have been avoided if he just played the game normally rather than pretending to be some god gamer at it.
It's for the same reason he's pretended to be a genius his entire career, he's obsessed with his self image and being number one. He's lied about being the best quake player in the world at some point. He's like Billy Mitchell with more money.
Careful there, or you'll have two nut jobs suing you
Fragile masculinity combined with wanting to appear sufficiently tech savvy to tech bro investors. Tech bros want nerds because pretty much every dollar they've ever made was off the back of some innovation of someone they consider a nerd, so Elon wants to be the biggest nerd to tech bros so they will throw even more money at his dumb projects.
Imagine being the wealthiest person on the planet, and still being this insecure.
Rich people work so hard to deserve their perverse wealth /s The only way they can still blow of steam is by pretending to grind online multiplayer games no actual working person has enough time for.
What kind of flex is this supposed to be?
I dont know path of exile in detail but being a top mmo player has always struck me of an archivement in dedication of time much more then inherent skill. The learned skill the pros have just comes natural with enough dedication.
My general reaction to something like it is not more then . Wow “you” must really enjoy this particular game. Is that reaction really worth cheating for?
Do we think he lacks the general life experience to be able to reflect on the common knowledge that a pro failed more times then the beginner has tried?
I known Elon is neurodivergent if not full on autistic but so am i and i cant make sense of this guys wims.
I think it comes down to what you said, but for the obscenely rich.
A pro has failed more than a beginner has tried. The obscenely rich have been told 'yes' more than the poor have had the opportunity to even ask questions.
You can learn this type of failed behavior just like a bad habit, and boy howdy is he the master of it.
Lol fuckin quality journalism vice. Must be a really eventful news day.
He’s already demonstrated first hand he doesn’t know how to navigate the UI for someone who has invested time to be a top player. It’s obvious to anyone that’s spent more than a couple days in any game.
Oh, thank you, Vice! I didn't know Asmongold was worse than Hitler.
Garbage journalism what a joke. Fuck, I still remember when Vice was relevant and renowned for the work.
He is not far off
But the reason Vice uses Asmongold instead of someone like Quin69, who made the video showing Elon is a fraud, is because people know Asmongolds name and it gets Vice the clicks.
I think that putting in the hours to be very good at PoE2 is more embarrassing than being an amateur who only played a little bit. I say that as someone who looks forward to playing a lot.
Yeah I've put 97 hours into PoE2... I am far from good..I put nearly 2k in PoE1 and I did fight all the non-uber bosses at some point.
I like to think this is the start of something important, Musks gaming account, realising that we can seriously sidetrack Trump by calling him the vice president and weird. The public is learning how to enact our own kind of political manipulation.
Isn't it weird that he's the top player in PoE2 AND Diablo IV?
Plus a highly involved, successful CEO for multiple companies! I believe any of that is true as much as I believe he's a free speech absolutist.
Do you think he pays Chinese teenagers to run his companies
I wouldn't be surprised given the decisions he has made at Tesla alone.
I would be
Chinese teenagers would be much more competent at running tech companies
how does elon even have time to play video games if he’s the most busiest and hardcore guy of all time?
Honestly don't care about Elon's PoE 2 account. Nor do I care much about Asmongold as a person, I only have a single important question:
What's with gaming streamers/youtubers trying to look like Jesus? GN Steve gets a pass, he's Tech Jesus and everyone knows it. What's up with Asmongold and that Penguinz guy though?
By "look like Jesus" do you mean they are white guys with long hair and facial hair?
I think you might underestimate how easy it is to grow your hair out and stop shaving and instantly become a Jesus look-alike. No effort needed.
Also, these two dudes look extremely different from each other and obviously they look nothing like Jesus who was a 5 and 1/2 ft tall brown skinned Semite.
I mean, I walked into the church hall for the daughter of my friends' baptism and everyone paused to look at me, even the priest. I even overhead "it's Jesus" from the mother who was 2 pews in front of me.
Seeing the bewilderment and expressions of everyone was just magical.
Maybe wearing a white toga and a thorn crown was a bit much for a church visit
Should have started asking for money bro
By "look like Jesus" I do indeed mean the popular modern western depiction of Jesus, because as far as I know, there's no conclusive proof of a historical Jesus existing, and if he did, he was obviously not a modern European-origin American man.
As for the second point - idk, it might just be because I can't grow a decent full beard, but after the first centimeter or 2 of facial hair, I just get told to shave because it's not funny anymore. I also can't imagine letting my hair grow for several years to get it as long as those guys. I thought one of the perks of being a man is that you get to be comfortable instead of spending years growing out your hair and shit lol
I go from Three musketeer to wizard of the Court in about 1 month. Generally I just prefer not to cut my hair, but it will reach full length in about 1 year and then just stop growing any longer.
These guys seem like they also chose this hairstyle because it's just less work and you spend less time being uncomfortable.
Constantly shaving all the time sucks.
It's pretty well-established within the field of history that there was a Jewish mendicant preacher named Jesus of Nazareth who got baptised by John and nailed to a cross by order of Pilates. That's just as well (or badly) attested as anything else about notable people in Galilee at the time.
It's the rest that ranges from unattested to either allegorical or certainly made up.
Hmm, I was under the impression that there isn't much written about him until long after his death - but maybe I did let that one skepticon video influence me too much lol
Well, define "long after". The earliest surviving non-Christian source is Tacitus who is generally considered to be a reliable histographer and had access to records that are now lost, he wrote, in about 116 CE, in the context of Nero's burning of Rome (64 CE):
116 CE should be about 80 years after crucifixion, not that long. If the Romans had not done it they would have considered themselves slandered and mentioned it in their justifications as to why Christianity should be persecuted, it would have been part of the contemporary political consciousness.
For once Asmongold's outrage baiting worked in our favour
Inb4 Bezos suspends his twitch account for "inappropriate activity"
I don’t know who that is 👴🦯
Asmongold is one of these 'anti-woke' YouTubers. Spends a fair amount of time complaining about women not looking pretty enough for his standards from what I've seen, while he himself looks like a fucking rat, with a bedroom that looks like a rat's nest. I hate downing people's looks and I too, have been a depressed mess with a terrifying bedroom before. But also, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
I don't actually follow any of these YouTubers and to be honest the only time I ever use YouTube is when I'm in the mood for some music videos but I've seen this asshat come up over and over in feminist spaces and places where people make fun of the anti-woke grifters and the idiot marks that adore them.
I haven't personally seen him talk about women but maybe. Some of his other talks about current events seemed very reasonable, though, so I thought he was pretty OK.
Here's the most recent take of his that I've seen:
But he's definitely a repeat offender in these circles.
Gross.
When I searched Asmongold "hoeflation" I got a couple results of people talking about it but no results for the post itself.
I guess indexing for Xitter is broken.
It's literally the first unpinned post on his Twitter profile.
Do I appear as the type who uses Xitter?
Nah lol, not accusing you of anything. I just thought I'd go and take a look and see if I'd been duped by a photoshopped post but there it is, right at the top. Just below his description of "Professional Neckbeard" and pinned address where all the marks that support him can send him free stuff.
It isn't a great point.
Sure, what Musk did only further proves what a pathetic loser he is, but it's the equivalent of "My girlfriend goes to another school, you haven't met her". It isn't illegal or anything, it's attempted clout chasing that blew up in his face... it's just sad.
How do you prove an account is legit?
The company behind POE can do it easily with IP address.
E.G. one of the bits is that the character was online and playing while he was on a high profile call with some German Nazis (sorry "AFD")
The main ones are that for the rank of the character, he would absolutely have to know the game damn near perfectly.
In the video he put out, its very obvious he doesn't know a damn thing about it.
• As in just blindly autoattacking, even when he doesnt have mana to attack • Not knowing how the map nodes work, going into a run with a full inventory • Skipping over all drops including a "Chaos Orb". Only picks up maps. • Claiming how bad his gear based on the equip level alone when its functionally tue best possible gear you can get • The character's auction house gear sales are classic RMT scammer money trades, where they put horrible gear up for ridiculous prices as a way to move ingame currency around between mules.
Ty
I thought poe2 didn't have a real AH, just currency market. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're trying to say.
Rest of the stuff checks out though.
It doesn't have an auction house that automatically sells gear but, it does a an official website that allows you to list gear for sale. One of "Musk's" listings (Maybe the only? I don't remember) is a garbage crossbow for 18 divine orbs. That's an ass load of currency in SC trade, let alone HC.
Oh, I see what you're saying. Thanks for the explanation!
He was selling shit gear for many times its worth, thats all. Sorry, never played PoE for long and uncertain about poe2.
He can't at this point
You apparently have a hateful right wing chud perform "secret" acts that will result in them getting a big push on a new platform.
Also: Friendly reminder that the Vice of today is not the Vice of olde and that "Waypoint" is a brand that is run by one rando (who likely uses a LOT of AI to generate content...) and has none of the social or political values the old Waypoint had. For the old Waypoint, you are looking at Remap Radio (the three founder/owners are Ricardo Contrarez, Rob Zacny, and Patrick Klepek and they semi-regularly collaborate with Austin Walker and, when she is available, BAFTA Award Winner Natalie Watson. And Janet Garcia is a "newbie" but is fucking awesome).
Aww, the chuds must be angry that I am not giving their shit goblin his due credit for asking musk for a streaming deal.
Fuck, I hate hearing about these people.
I think I'm just gonna ignore you. Sorry OP.
Calling Asmongold the "the worst person you know" is fucking pathetic. He gets consistently shit on by journalists for having the ability to think for himself.
He’s pretty clearly a shitty person that no one should model themselves after.
He does have based takes on most things tho. IMO
You REALLY need remedial preliminary education if you believe that.
huh
It's OK, let me help you out:
Remedial means: "to give a remedy," or in this context, "to provide a corrective education in order to attain the education level of your contemporaries" ("Contemporaries" means a person living and working at the same time as you).
Preliminary means: "denoting an action or event preceding or done in preparation of something important."
Hopefully that helps!
I didn't say "huh" cuz I didn't understand you. I said "huh" because I was confused about why you think I'm uneducated/unintelligent.
Fun fact: There are highly educated and intelligent people with different world views and values than you and other average Lemmy people.
If someone doesn't think the same as you - that doesn't necessarily mean they are dumb or uneducated.
Wow that seems pretty harsh.
You try having something like 50,000 hours of recorded streams without saying something dumb.
It’s not what he says rather it is who he is and presents himself as.
No one should aspire to be a troll that is as uniquely unfuckable as him.
I don't think aspiring to be another person is very admirable in any context.
So then what was the point of your initial comment? I said no one should model themselves after him. You replied that that was a harsh statement, but if you don’t think anyone should aspire to be like someone else what is the problem?
I don't think he's a shitty person. He doesn't actively harm or exploit anyone just spergs out on the internet playing Vidya. If every Texan was an asmongold it would be a half decent state.
I think his larger message is his harm. I think his attitude is problematic as is his hygiene.
It's pretty easy to not say racist and misogynistic shit if you're not a racist and/or misogynist.
Like you realize that people aren't out here struggling every day to not say the n word. That's not normal.
except for the misogyny and bigotry
Yeah sure whatever you say, keep following the herd. I stopped giving a fuck about your virtue signaling types months ago.
Go ahead and follow the script to call me a nazi next.
Why would you be a nazi? I suspect you are a cnfused child if you think Asmingold is an aspirational figure.
Asmongold is the kind of guy who is unfuckable despite having money. Why would you want to be that guy?
Do you habitual judge people entirely on their fuckability? I mean, I have little opinion of Asmongold except what I see other people saying about him on the internet, but that seems like a weirdly sexualized take on things.
When Im talking to an obvious teenaged boy it’s safer to talk in terms they understand. A 15 year old might get why Asmongold isunfuckable but they might not understand why adults would hold him in disdain regardless of what he does.
Playing by someone else's rules means they dictate the conversation. You have significantly less power. If you want people to act like adults, like reasonable people, try treating them that way.
It may not work, but it's far more likely to do so than constantly talking down to them.
Have you been paying attention to this conversation? Maybe go back and reread before replying to me. You might find yourself thinking differently when you see my comments and the replies that I got from the start
Ah yes because appearance equals value in this dogshit world of yours. Way to admit you dont like him because he is actually popular despite that fact.
Also a kid using lemmy? get real. Most of us here are 21+ at the least.
His personality and hygiene are what makes him unfuckable.
And based on your responses here, why shouldn’t I continue thinking you’re a boy?
I've only heard he streams the entirety other people's work for a living, what are the journalists saying?
I love Elon, but what he did is just plain cringe and lame.
I'm up voting you simply because I think it's brave to say that on Lemmy 😅
Yeah, Lemmy is crazily echo-chambered. If you don't actively shit on Elon for absolutely everything he does (be it good or bad) you get downvoted and called a bigot.
Why can't people be normal and shit on Elon for bad stuff and praise him for good stuff. There is not a single person in the world that is 100% good or 100% bad - everyone is on the spectrum and even the worst people have certain good aspects (and the best people have shit aspects).
EDIT: I sometimes feel like I could write a full-on essay about how Elon sucks and it would still get downvoted into oblivion just cuz I said like one positive thing about him in it.
I'm struggling to think of good stuff to praise him for.
I mean, he is pushing a lot of good tech forward. He is also fighting against bureaucracy and for freedom of speech.
he's doing none of that
He is doing so, so, so much. If we didn't have Elon to manage all these companies - they would be nowhere near where they are today. It's a no-brainer fact.
They would be nowhere if they didn't have his money. Otherwise Musk actively hinders his companies with his idiocy. This is well known from SpaceX employees.
https://x.com/yoloption/status/1595213678147764224?mx=2
The companies' success is from being in fields that the employees are passionate about so they'll grit their teeth and put up with it to be able to work there.
And fighting for free speech, are you kidding? He's fighting for his own speech period. Anything he doesn't like tends to get journalists temp banned or shadowbanned from Twitter for example.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_2022_Twitter_suspensions#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DOn_December_15%2C_2022%2C_Twitter%2C%2C_CNN%2C_and_The_Intercept.
So you're telling me if Elon dies today. Tesla, spaceX, Twitter etc. will die with him?
I would agree that some of his businesses are doing well, but I would give more credit to the scientists and engineers making it happen. We found out shortly after the election that he had almost no involvement in SpaceX lately in fact.
He does get some credit for actually gathering those people and starting the companies sure, however all the insane things he's done and is doing have really heavily undercut all of it for most people, myself included. I was a fan of his until he completely without evidence accused some diver of being a pedophile just because they didn't want to use his awful "submersible" to rescue those Thai children years back.
The pedo incident was lame, but you ditched Elon just for that??
He didn't start any of his companies, he just bought all of them (maybe the exception is the boring company)
Do you honestly believe SpaceX, Neuralink, Tesla etc. would be where they are today if it wasn't for Elon? If you say yes - I'm sorry but you have no idea what you on about.
Exactly, I hate him for who he is and most of what he does but the $100million USD contest to sequester carbon permanently is a fantastic thing to sponsor as we must remove carbon from the cycle and not just store it in trees.
And my point is proven. You literally said you hate him but you still got downvoted cuz you mentioned some good about him. I'm serious! This is a helluva echo chamber. They literally downvoted you for not hating him hard enough. It's comical!
The sad part is I bet most who downvoted me don't understand how critically important carbon sequestering is. We can'tjust plant trees. We need to permanently remove all of the carbon from the cycle that has been introduced since industrialization began.
I haven't looked into it deeply so I don't really know how important it is but I know one thing: Lemmy people would rather see double the CO2 than admit Elon has positive aspects.
Upvoting because we don't choose who we love. At least you can see he is cringe and lame :)
I wouldn't say he is cringe and lame. He is quite based actually (IMO). What he did with PoE 2 is cringe and lame.
Who loves Elon ?
Adrian Dittmann loves Elon!
his ex wives and children
oh wait sorry i thought you said hates not loves
I love him.
typical pig like people I guess?
huh
why do people hate mongols? i think they are pretty chill people
Wtf is this comment
AS-mongol-D. It took me a hot second to see it
Oh so it's a really fucking stupid joke, based on noting but a name in the article
Sir, this is a social media.
This isn't Southern California media wtf, mate!
Is that a new one peice character? Mongol D As?
It's obviously a joke based on his name lmao
You're like 20 hours after someone already said that.