Donald Trump Says Gulf of Mexico Will Now Be Called 'Gulf of America.' Congress Is Already Prepping Legislation
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This channel is going to be so busy the next 4 years. Oof.
Should just change the name to 'Muricas an Onion
Isn’t the entire idea that the Gulf of Mexico is more descriptive than the gulf of America? Mexico only has one large gulf, and from a US perspective the gulf is in the direction of Mexico. The Americas have several «gulfs» so gulf of America makes no sense. Maybe Gulf of the USA? But again in terms of a description that makes far less sense.
I'm not sure Trump even knows there's an area called "the Americas."
Also leftists who refused to vote at all because Harris didn't solve the Middle East conflicts from the Vice President's desk.
Wait wait wait... So you're saying the vice president isn't the same as the queen and can't just do whatever she wants?
I voted for Harris, because I believe in trying to be practical and try to reduce harm, but I also won't even think of speaking ill of those who refused to endorse genocide just because the other guy might do genocide without the pathetic finger-wagging the Biden administration did as they handed over more and more and more bombs. It was a hard choice, and I chose pragmatics and harm reduction, but I also know that some fucking dweeb in the DNC is going to read that number as an endorsement signal for the platform of "genocide is okay as long as we tut at them while we hand them bombs".
"Might"
lol OK
And? Do you think Joe Biden and Anthony Blinken saved even one drop of blood by giving Nettanyahu very stern disapproving looks as they handed him more and more bombs? If Biden tacitly approved of the genocide in Gaza, do you think there'd be a meaningful distinction between what things look like now?
No, but they probably did by not explicitly telling them to finish the job and giving them free reign to destroy every Palestinian.
Do you really believe that? Nettanyahu has showed at every turn that he respects Biden about as much as some dog shit he stepped in. The Biden administration got rug pulled on peace/ceasefire talks by Israel, what, five times that we know of? And they just kept coming back, like Charlie Brown, convinced they surely wouldn't yank the football away this time. I think that Nettanyahu doesn't even consider Biden at all.
Yes. Trump, during his previous term, moved the US Israel embassy to Jerusalem, which implies Israel owns it, rather than the shared control its supposed to have. That's just one example of how Trump had already moved the US towards full support of Israel's goals over Palestine.
Do I think Biden or Harris would stop them? No. Do I think Trump is going to do everything he can to empower them? Yes. He's already done some of this and I'm sure it will continue now, as he's indicated it would. You'd really have to shive your head in the sand to not see it coming.
I think the distinction here is a Harris presidency would at least pretend to if not actually put effort toward resolving the conflict with less bloodshed because some of the Democrat base wants that, even if it's only symbolic and maintains the status quo and of Israel as a "strategic partner/asset". Blinken was just on NPR explaining where their efforts have been directed (surrounded by non-answers, take it as you will), not taking into account how effective they were. We can fully expect a Trump admin to encourage Bibi's efforts at rejecting a two-state solution or any kind of Palestinian sovereignty, and make it even harder to end the conflict in the future because Bibi wants to drag out the suffering as long as possible because that's a key reason he's in power. This is how I interpret it, and I believe any kind of equivalency between the two is overly cynical, which you can feel free to disagree with. If Trump's admin somehow has a part in ending the conflict, I'd be surprised if any Palestinians make it out on the other side, and they'll tout that as a win.
Cool now what trump does or doesn't do well be on them. And now they can look back at all the violence in Gaza under trump and saynorodulyni did that. I'm responsible for it and feel good about themselves.
I disagree that it's on them. This and '16 should have been easy elections. Instead of running their best and brightest against a man they've framed as an existential threat to the state, they decided it was a good opportunity to push (and don't you fucking tell me they don't have a thumb on the scales in the primaries) the most unelectable candidates in living memory. I think Kamala could have won, but as I recall it, a lot of the excitement around her began to fizzle out around the time it became clear that she endorsed such exciting policies as addressing climate change with more fracking, shrugging helplessly as we hand Nettanyahu more bombs, making some minor adjustments to healthcare, and offering some tax rebates to people who want to start businesses.
People are fucking drowning. They know shit's broke and we're in desperate need of change. The democrats misread the room and decided both in '16 and '24 that not really trying to do anything meaningful was fine, since what are voters going to do, vote for that guy? And now they've got the gall to blame the voters, which I guess just means that in 2027, we're going to have cyberTrump vs Hillary Clinton (it's really her turn this time you guys). When you start blaming and finger wagging the voters, that's always a recipe for success. It's cool, learn nothing, change nothing, just shuffle a little more to the right, tell us with words and not actions that cyberTrump is an existential threat, and everything will definitely work out this time.
Oh shit, just gave me the best idea. Let's start the conspiracy that Trump is Hillary's puppet.
I'll get us started:
*Bill Clinton used Epstein to drum up compromat on all his political rivals
*Trump was put in place to dismantle democracy so that when Hillary took power her power would be absolute
*Trump was a Democrat most his life
*Trump is a NYC elite
*The true Republicans like Dick Cheney, Jon McCain and Mitch McConnel oppose him
I'm sure we could drum up some policies he has and tease them out to be actually liberal policies
Let me know if anyone else wants to spur on some MAGA infighting
Good luck, man. Trump could pardon Hillary and his base wouldn't give one shit. Sure, you'd get the "WOAH REPUBLICAN VOTERS FELL FOR IT AGAIN, LOOK AT THEM BEING UPSET ON TWITTER" articles and Twitter screenshots and shit, but outside those, like, six people, nobody's going to really care. These folks voted for a dictator to come in and magically make everything better (for them specifically, fuck everyone else), there's nothing, and I mean nothing, that can break the cult fever dream around him. Trump could literally institute unironic communism (which would be the funniest thing ever) and they'd go right along with it.
True, but if we spread it enough and be insistent it would be lots of fun watching them refute everything. I'm still down, if anyone interested, hit me up.
There aren't as many leftists in America as there are liberals who voted in 2020 but not in 2024.
I didn't say leftists were the only ones who didn't show up to vote.
Lessons Learned: Zero
First three dots apply to both parties. Israel was doing a slower genocide when Trump was in office the first time because they didn't have an excuse to dial it ip, and he was supportive then.
Yeah, there is profound love of Fascism on both sides of the aisle in the US at the moment.
Which is why, IMHO (and FYI, I'm not American hence have no emotional stake on it) the only option for American voters who don't want Fascist-lovers running their country to make things better (rather than merely slow the worsening of things) was to send a message to the leadership of the party that can more easily move away from the whole Fascism-loving business, so that in the next elections they field a candidate which is not a Fascist lover.
The US is so ridiculous undemocratic that the only possible way to chose improvement with one's vote is for traditional Democrat voters to refuse to vote so that the Fascist-loving Democrat candidate barely wins or even loses - which means enduring 4 years of Trump - to try and scare the DNC to field a less Fascist candidate next time around. All this is a stupidly long shot because there are so many ways the DNC can react to it that don't really move the party leftwards.
That's it. That's the only way one's presidential vote in the US can be used to improve things. A ridiculous long shot with 4 years of pain until things might get better. The useful idiots getting the DNC of the hook for its electoral defeat by blaming "lefties" sure aren't helping the DNC get the message from the electorate and fielding a candidate who is not a Fascist-lover.
By the way, all this is entirely consistent with the view that Democrats are closer to not being Fascists than Republicans are. I'm not at all disputing that Trump is worse, I'm saying that if the Democrats aren't turned around from the current trend in the "evolution" of their politics, it's pretty much guaranteed that there will be US Presidents in the future who are even worse than Trump and hence that it is logic (though risky) to use one's vote now to punish the Democrat leadership in order to change the type of candidate they field in future elections.
PS: I dispute that Israel has only sped up their genocide after Trump won the election - it seems to me the speeding up predates that, having happened still well in the period of the Biden Presidency and before the next president was known. It's hard to pinpoint it, but might even have happened when Kamala Harris made clear her unwavering support for Israel, hence the Zionists knew that no matter who ended up as POTOS they were unwaveringly suppported by future POTOS. Then again, maybe it happened when enough hospitals were destroyed by Israel that the dead in Gaza stopped getting counted properly hence the numbers published in the International Press stopped going up significantly. That said, all that is irrelevant for the point I'm making as I accept that Republicans are slightly more Fascist-loving than Democrats.
I mean, we could pass state level electoral reform so we could be free to vote outside the 2 party system with no spoiler effect.
Republicans are passing laws in their states to protect First Past the Post voting. Why do the democrats want to use the voting system republicans prefer? Don't democrats support democracy?
Congrats, you got to feel good while making everyone in the world's life worse. We'll see if it was worth it in 4 years 🙄 good job protecting your feelings over people's lives
I'm not American and don't get to vote in US Presidential elections.
On the other hand I easily find the detachment to analyze US Politics because I have no emotional stake on that race.
Frankly, you guys are fucked no mater what you do because the voting system in the US is undemocratic, but at least have the decency of not being willful bitches to one set of Fascist-supporting assholes with the lame excuse that doing otherwise would be being a bitch to a different set of Fascist assholes.
As I see it, in the absence of any choice who was not as Fascist-lover, the vote in these last US Elections wasn't about choosing somebody who is not a Fascist, it was about sending a message to the party which can move away from Fascism more easily to do so for the next elections.
In that sense, all the useful idiots here now trying to dilute that message by blaming lefties for the outcome of that vote, rather than the DNC, are just making sure the DNC doesn't move away from it's current trend of "ever more love for violent Fascists", hence keep on offering a smooth-talking-Fascism-lover candidate to face the opposition's loudmouth-Fascist one and hence things keep on getting worse in the US because both "options" keep getting worse.
It's funny all the criticism I see here of Republican voters for being stupid all the while many if not most of members of the Democrat tribe doing and upvoting those very memes repeatedly display the strategical-thinking ability of a goldfish.
Congrats, you just summed up a 60+ years conflict with, "they are NAZIs because I say so and I am the moral authority on all things."
Impressive.
Are we disagreeing on whether or not a genocide is taking place in Palestine?
I'm disagreeing what is happening in Gaza is tantamount to what the NAZIs did.
The NAZIs themselves didn't start with what we say today that "the NAZIs did" - the Holocaust - they started with extreme racism, claiming to represent an entire ethnicity, claiming that said ethnicity was racially superior and a "normal" Genocide along ethnic lines of people from an etnicity they deemed subhuman, just like the Zionists.
You're making the disgusting argument that even when an ethno-Fascist group is displaying massive similarities to the NAZIs at the mid/later point of that ideology, in terms of behavior, discourse and doing a violent mass genocide of people from an ethnicity they deem "human animals", it's improper to compare them to the NAZIs until these newer ethno-Fascists have committed their very own Holocaust.
By your logic we have to wait for the newest version of the same variant of Fascist as NAZIs to take their current Genocide all the way to a Holocaust just like the NAZIs before we can compare them to NAZIs.
PS: What's happening in Gaza was tantamount to what the NAZIs did in the Warsaw Ghetto. I say "was" because the size and nature of the killing and destruction in Gaza has already go far beyond what the NAZIs did in the Warsaw Ghetto.
Calling them NAZIs is not a comparision.
Zionists are ethno-Fascists like the Nazis, who are the most violent kind of Fascist around.
Congrats for totally and very purposefully missing the point and learning no lessons at all.
"The point" and "the lesson" OP was spouting off about was NAZI this and NAZI that. Not helpful at all.
That's some pretty extreme wilful blindness you have there if from that long post all that you got was that the acronym NAZI was imperfectly used as a shortcut for ethno-Fascist.
I mean, you're absolutely right that ethno-Fascist (which, as I said, is an ultra-violent extremely racist kind of Fascist of which there are only 2 big examples: NAZIs and Zionists) would be better there than NAZI.
You're also totally missing the point if that's all you took for that post or think that you criticizing the slightly innapropriate use of NAZI is a criticism which in any way addresses 99% of what was in there.
I addressed the glaring fallacy. This person had no intention of debating actually truths they were just whining about their own personal beliefs and moral superiority. I'm not going to fall on my knees to suck their dick because they think they've figured out some ambiguity that "everyone else is missing."
talk about a revisionist take. the ask was to promise to enforce american laws regarding arm sales to isreal. but you do you mate. enjoy your trump presidency you certainly earned it.
Americans have definitely earned this second Trump presidency, even the ones who think themselves above having to pay for it.
The economy was predicted to do worse under Trump, as was/is inflation and housing prices.
What absolute fucking dumbasses voted for this guy for economic reasons?
You kind of answered your own question there.
Moderates who “voted for the economy”: 🤡
Fucking THEATER
Hey, tbh, I'm fine with him focusing on things like this and trying to buy Greenland. It's much rather he spend his time on theater than on actually hurting people
He's trying to get things like this and Greenland in the headlines so that he can do the actually harmful things without too much notice.
No, he has no idea what the real agenda is. He actually thinks this bullshit matters. That's exactly why he was installed in the position of president.
The guy is like, literally borderline retarded. Quit giving that asshole credit.
You are both right. Trump is the distraction and incapable of working on an agenda. He needs the people in the background. But he is capable of understanding what he is doing. And he likes it.
He doesn't need to know, he just has to be useful to those who do know.
And when we post and upvote this shit instead of the harmful shit then we are playing into their hand.
This is a distraction
This is what Trump does day to day, spouting random made up shit on a whim. My guess is that it was ad libbed and there is no legislation, the whole renaming thing is probably news to his speech writer/diaper changer/whatever they call the person that tries to get him to talk about something specific.
The horrible shit is orchestrated by all the malicious fucks around him who can focus on one topic for more than 5 minutes.
Love how these commenters are all offended by a thing that will never get off the ground, or be heard again.
Y'all were around for the first time, right?
Damn. Boomer politicians scraping the bottom of the barrel so hard now we're stealing from China's playbook? "It's not Cuba, it's American Taipei."
They built a wall too.
But Mexico has 63 more miles of coastline on the Gulf than the USA does. We should just leave it alone.
Wouldn't surprise me if this was inspired to circumvent the new ban on oil drilling Biden just enacted. "We're drilling in the Gulf of America, not the Gulf of Mexico."
The US doesn't have exclusive rights to "America" as a name. In fact strictly speaking "Gulf of America" is not a bad name since it is the largest gulf in the Americas AFAIK.
The reason is racism
Then maybe “Gulf of the Americas” would be more appropriate.
True, they'll probably call it Gulf of 'MURICA!
Agreed. Let's also change our demonym to Unitedstatian.
That’s also unclear, given the United States of Mexico.
Edit: I guess we could do Columbian, but I gotta assume Colombia would be annoyed and it’s not exactly descriptive of our foreign policy.
You joke but in many languages they do that, for instance "statunitensi" or "estadounidenses"
I don't joke actually. I chose "Unitedstatians" exactly because that's what other languages do.
Except America has more then one gulf so it isn't the gulf of America it is one gulf in America.
Canada has more land mass than the US does. Perhaps Trump should be talking about integrating the US into Canada (and doing away with the now-redundant US Presidential position).
I’m sure Canada would love that influx of crazy
Cascadia awaits...
Cascadia, the one envisioned as a racist white ethnostate?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
No, the geographic region you fucking mouth breather.
I was born and raised in Cascadia and I have never once heard of it being some white racist ethnostate it's more of a bioregion/cool people thing...I googled it and it looks like some folk in the 1840s wanted to do that but comparing us with them is ridiculous on your part to tell ya the truth.
I was raised all over the country - but got an education in history. I've known the chud's plan for Cascadia since I was a kid. Why don't you read history? Don't you think you should know what you're endorsing before you start suggesting people support a plan for a white racist ethnostate?
Now that you know it's history are you in any way reconsidering?
It's not just a historical motivation, the scumfucks are still pushing for it.
https://www.cascadepbs.org/2015/07/hate-filled-zone-a-group-of-white-racists-wants-a-nw-secession-a-vile-dream-with-deep-historic-roots
https://thebaffler.com/latest/cascadia-lokting
https://www.kuow.org/stories/i-went-undercover-seattle-s-white-nationalist-group/
wake up
@Entropywins I feel ya, and I agree with you, but here's a friendly tip: Any argument made in text will be more persuasive if you write it like a thoughtful, educated grown-up instead of like a drunk high school drop-out.
It's one thing to be 'casual' in discourse. It's another to come across as incompetent, inconsiderate, or lazy.
Online, all anyone sees are the words you type. That's a huge part of how others will perceive you -- and everything you say -- and you should mindful about that.
@Entropywins Yep, that's what I expect from childish people.
You need to grow up.
USA != America. USA is a country that resides on the North American Continent.
While I know Trump is doing this to try and claim it as the USA's... It actually makes sense if you actually use "America" properly to refer to North, Central and South America.
He'll solve that too.
We'll croatia them and canada.
Actual, literal toddlers are really taking over the US, aren't they?
Voted in by folks of similar mental capability.
That's not fair. Some of them are scamming the large toddlers!
Plus folks of similar mental capability refrained from voting in the first place, when they could have prevented this.
Actual toddlers are less hateful then them. Still stands. Hateful toddlers.
I don't know, but toddlers tend to make more sense...
@hdnsmbt I would expect actual, literal toddlers to be better.
Let's not forget, conservatives, CEOs and all that bunch operate with methods of a parlor magician. The louder they jingle the keys in one hand, the more we should be paying attention to what they are doing with the other.
Exactly this. All this outlandish bullshit is meant to soften the blow of something truly awful cooking.
It's about to pop out of the oven!
President Musk will be livid that his suggestion to call it 'Gulf of X' was shot down.
President Musk will get his way and they will make a compromise and call it the Gulf of X-ico.
*Gulf of X-ica
Invade Mexico, invade greenland, rename the gulf..... hello... he's bonkers, what the fuck are we doing letting this shit back in power....
Well, you see. We let those willfully ignorant fucks in the bible belt vote for some reason.
I've never seen a more vibrant walking, talking example of the need for the 25th amendment.
I low key wonder if that's the Republican plan. Just 25th amendment him and let Vance takeover. Vance pardons Trump who goes on Fox News weekly to yell about Mexicans or whatever.
We'll have a Theilocracy then.
They'll 25th amendment him throw Vance in and we'll be a fascist oligarchy before March Madness.
Not that we're miles away now.
Yeah, that's what I've been thinking since his speech. I'm thinking the people he's surrounded with are encouraging his non-sensical ramblings so they can replace him with Vance, who is a Thiel/billionaire puppet, and likely more predictable and reliable than Trump.
You are radicalizing your former allies and neighbors, that is what you are doing.
You said we, this is a normal response that isn’t super accusatory or aggressive. It just sounds it because you’re interpreting it as directed towards you the individual, but it’s for “you all,” which is the standard way to respond to a comment in the first person plural
Thanks, that was the spirit in which the reply was intended. He asked, I answered. Grammar is a motherfucker.
I'm not advocating for radicalization. I'm saying they are predictable consequences.
In my original comment, I specify. He's bonkers is referring to Trump, the actor of those referred to actions.
In your reply, you state 'YOU', as if the people against this / and? the people pushing it are responsible for that radicalization, and I take no responsibility for that shitstain's actions against our allies.
You could have easily been more clear by stating 'conservatives' or Trump supporters or - if you meant a blanket indictment - you idiots who didn't punish the insurrection / pay taxes to a corrupt system of governing etc., hence my dismissal of your reply.
Vague aspersions cast without insight generally get that response.
Thanks for taking the time to re-reply, even after your initial zinger got modded away just to demonstrate to the people that even when the average American says WE, they just mean.... ME.
Not much I can do to make my point more clearly than that.
chefs kiss
life's full of fun ironies, if we can find ways to appreciate them. a hard lift sometimes.
best of luck!
I wasn’t the person who originally answered you, just someone who saw you lash out at someone and understood why. You said this (emphasis mine):
And someone answered your question in the way that makes sense (second person plural). It’s not an aspersion, it’s literally just stating the consequences of us electing trump (we as a country did, regardless of whether you or I voted for him).
quod erat demonstrandum
ipso facto vis-a-vis
shut the fuck up
Can we pleast waste the next 4 years renaming things and get nothing practical done? That sounds like perfectly good mud to spin the tires in.
This is just the distraction while he takes everything that isn't nailed down.
I guess this time he brought a box full of screwdrivers.
Hey look, another 4 years of Republicans not doing anything of value for the American people.
Meanwhile, Democrats just banned medical debt from showing up on credit reports.
The differences between parties couldn't be more obvious and Americans were still stupid enough to elect the do-nothing party. That's how I know this country is barreling down a path to collapse. It's not Trump. It's not even Republicans. It's braindead stupid Americans.
Yeah. I mean I try not to be the guy standing on the corner with the "THE END IS NEAR" sign, but the writing is on the wall here. History has shown us that if a populace doesn't work hard to maintain a democracy, it loses it to the forces working against it. And our society simply can't responsibly handle the threat of internet propaganda and radicalism. There will never be a more stark election than what we just experienced and we still failed the test. If we're failing the easiest, most obvious tests we could possibly be given, we don't stand a chance.
It's not going to be some cataclysmic collapse and downfall. It's going to be slow and steady and extremely despressing.
This is probably the most depressing aspect of it all to me. Finding out that people who I thought were intelligent and good are actually anti-intellectual and amoral.
You know when you have a society rebelling against vaccines, one of the greatest things to ever happen to humanity, that you're witnessing a downward spiral.
But God forbid you call it depressing and ruin someone else's high on the way down.
Damn, my medical debt that is currently affecting my score must have not gotten the memo.
Edit: Holy fucking shit you’re right, PLEASE GOD LET THIS FUCKING LEGISLATION STICK! DO ONE THING!
Another edit: Can the Trump administration kill this on day one?
Yeah. It's a big deal.
"BUT DEMOCRATS DON'T DO ANYTHING!!!"
Honestly, I'm not sure how possible it is for Trump to undo this. I haven't looked deep enough into it. I read something about Biden doing what he could to make it hard for it to be undone. There's so many nuances to our legislative system and the powers that the president has that it's hard to tell how safe this from Republican fuckery.
From what I’ve read, Trump actually can kill this on day one. Whether or not he does is a different story, he’s taken a populist slide lately and I don’t think his supporters would be too happy with him undoing it.
Who knows though; unprecedented times.
Also, there has already been a lawsuit filed against the Biden administration for this rule. Fucking god damn it
Why not replace First past the post voting so more political parties can participate in the electoral process with no spoiler effect?
Don't democrats support democracy? Are democrats afraid of having to compete for our votes?
Do you mean democrats or Democrats? Because the latter is absolutely not looking to compete any further.
This is the best case scenario, relying on their utter incompetence, although the will pillage state funds
Mexican here. This is happening as much as "the wall" happened. Don't let him distract you from the H1B issue.
The unfortunate thing is that "the wall" kinda did happen. Really shittily, but even Biden continued building it and Kamala ran on continuing to build it. The idea itself is really stupid sure, it's ineffective and ass. But there do be a wall getting built to this day.
It's not about doing the things it's about the optics of saying you'll do them. The wall isn't done and never will be. Even if it was it would never deliver what was promised.
Its all about optics and it's why Trump sabotaged the immigration reform bill. It would show democrats are capable of actually executing/delivering in a way he can't.
And on that front, trump was super successful. He was so successful that the Democrats full ass abandoned hispanic folk and immigrants in general and fully adopted Fascist Trump Immigration policy. In terms of optics, Trump won so hard the Dems tried to be like WE ARE JUST LIKE TRUMP BUT EFFECTIVE.
The dems would rather chase racist white """""moderates""""" than any person of color. Even their POC's cant help but beg for that racist white moderate because they crossed that wealth line that made them forget what they are to those folk. Trump won the optic war because Dems surrendered as soon as they physically could.
Did Mexico pay for it, though? That was the important part.
Was it the important part? Really? Sounds like your so stuck on the silly part you missed the clusterfuck
This is why fascism works. This will happen. Trump is incompetent and idiotic but he's got a government worth of yes men and people scared of losing their jobs or otherwise motivated to just pass his insane "presidential" bullshit through the pipelines created by liberals in more peaceful times.
He doesn't need to know how to do anything, but now that he's in power a handful of his batshit insane things he proposed still get pushed through the system by people who know how to do it who've been drolly passing similar but more sane legislation across their desk for decades.
The reason Trump is doing this is so that we are not focusing on the rift in the party over H1B visas.
Where the fuck are the Democrats hitting the issue while it's hot with 3 interviews a day agreeing with the average Republican over Trump and Musk?
Ignoring everyone. Then when it's election season again, they'll act like you're a Russian troll who just started talking to spread division.
Ah a classic then.
Pointing fingers at each other and drifting further to the right, probably.
What an utter fucking buffoon. This man shouldn't be trusted to use a fork without protective eyewear let alone run a god damn country.
It's hard to tell which eye he hit with that framerate. Have this:
Guarantee the house and senate are going to be full of this kind of shit to the exclusion of anything even remotely useful
Can only hope this is the case. If they're not being useful, chances are they're not being genuinely destructive either
And it's an omnibus law that also bans abortion, with meaningless exceptions for rape, but only if the perpetrator is sentenced before the first trimester; or life threatening conditions, but only if the mother is actively dying. And if you vote no on that, you'll be smeared forever as the traitor of America.
To everyone here.
I know most of you are fed up, exhausted and disgusted. The key is to never give up and roll over. Once you do this the idiots will have won and we we'll be permanently screwed. We had already gone through four years of Trump's Idiocracy. Four more years sucks but you need to keep fighting the good fight. We can get through this!
Oh I'm never gonna stop fighting. They can send my gay ass to the camps and I'll still fight. IDGAF
We've always been permanently screwed, it's just new people getting added to the screwed side of the equation.
Better late late late laaaate then never I guess.
Yeah, good luck convincing the rest of the world to change to fit your wants.
The name change will go over worse than the Twitter renaming.
Or when they tried to change the name of French fries.
Why not Gulf Of Trump? Gulf of MAGA? Gulf of Sharpie?
Idiot.
EDIT: And yes, he's just trying to distract from his court cases... again.
Gulf of Donvict Distraction
Gulf of Butt Sharpies!
Wait until he hears about Mexico not being named America either!
Anyone think he'll want to take over the rest of Mexico and make it part of America?
Between that and telling Canada they should become a state, I wouldn't be surprised if we get some manifest destiny v2 trying to conquer the continent.
At this point he may attempt to annex Australia because he thinks Hitler did
He's already trying to rename Canada. The US is Canada's pants, and we've apparently shit. them
"Mexico is in Central America, so it must belong to the USA!"
Rational National pointed out that the 'Gulf of America' name was actually a joke Colbert made back in 2010 when he was still doing the Colbert Report.
Roughly 2 minutes into this video:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=BtzFxY66F7s
Old article about MSFT donating to Colbert's 'Gulf of America' charity aimed at cleaning up / mitigating oil spills from rigs that broke after Katrina:
https://news.softpedia.com/news/Bing-Donates-100-000-to-the-Colbert-Nation-Gulf-of-America-Fund-144192.shtml
We live in the Demented Clowns timeline, honk honk.
Well that's a depressing watch...
Besides the absurdity of this, who gets to decide the name of a geographical feature?
If this were to actually happen wouldn’t it mean literally nothing? Like maybe officially in the USA it would be referred to by its new name but why would other countries follow? And I get that that the USA does a lot in the Gulf, but from my [very basic] understanding most of it is international waters.
Could legislation be proposed to rename the Atlantic Ocean? And if so wouldn’t that just end up with the USA following strange semantics other countries don’t?
It mostly would.
Hungary renamed an iconic square in Budapest like 10 years ago. Most of the city still calls it Moscow Square.
If America doesn't have to adopt the metric system they sure as shit don't have to name everything the same.
Everyone can call geographical features however they like in principle.
There's something similar here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_of_Japan_naming_dispute
Countries can decide internally to call something whatever they want. One example is how not everyone in the world agrees on how many continents there are and uses some different names (like Eurasia). A more relevant case is how most of the world calls the ocean between Japan and Korea the Sea of Japan, whereas Koreans call it the East Sea.
So, the way a geographical feature gets named, or renamed, is if the rest of the world recognises it as such.
Sometimes a name change of a feature, or the annexation of a region, gets internationally recognised not because everyone agrees to it, but everyone wants to stay on diplomatic good terms.
There's a similar situation going on with the Persian Gulf/Arabic Gulf.
When it comes to renaming external locations like this that are used by multiple countries, I would imagine it would be a case of how wide the rename is adopted. If I had to take a guess, renaming the Gulf of Mexico or the Atlantic Ocean in more US-centric names isn't as likely to catch on globally and will probably just result in confusion when people from different countries are referring to the same thing.
The US has a law that forces other countries to abide by sanctions over trade. Netherlands and Taiwan are "colonized" by their tech industries that have a little of legacy IP from US companies. US companies can only license internationally with the stipulation that US rules over the licensee. 100% tariffs or military invasion promise for any country that disrespects America's rights to name stuff.
Don't tell him Mexico is part of the Americas though.
Which America? South America? North America? How can it be the gulf of the entire continent?
It technically lies between north and south america.
It is a more fitting name than that of the USA.
It is nowhere near South America. The Gulf of Mexico is in North America, touching Mexico, the United States, and Cuba.
The name makes sense because, technically speaking, it is an ocean basin. Most of the basin goes towards Mexican territory; not meaning the touching of the borders but that it covers what would be Mexican territory. It "pushes" or "delves" more towards Mexico. (I hope I'm explaining myself, lol).
It has been called "the Gulf of Mexico" for about five centuries and it made even more sense less than two centuries ago before the United States stole a big chunk of northern Mexican territory.
Yeah you're right, mentally I added the part of the Caribbean that goes down to Venezuela to it.
tbh despite the idiotic intentions the name does make more sense than "the gulf of mexico"
Fine. I’m calling it Gulf of the Americas and reminding everyone that the Americas are the continents, not the country.
A visionary and inclusive move!
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Too late, I've already renamed it Gulf of Canada.
Ain't that the Hudson bay though?
President Freedom Fries can call it whatever the fuck he wants. That doesn't make it internationally recognized.
Holy Lilith it's gonna be so awkward when the Europeans have to make invasion plans together with the Chinese because Trump is Blitzkrieg-ing through America.
All our maps will be out of date!
That's why theyll have to partner with China, where else are they gonna buy American maps??
why is the media giving this idiot the time of day. no it's not called the "gulf of america" and no congress can't do squat about it. it's a stupid distraction from an idiot.
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Because people voted for him
It's Freedom Fries & W ketchup all over again...
L ketchup
It’s cat’s up
My bad
This is the first step to annex another region.
Cycle continue ….
We saw this in Lebanon, Libya, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Ukraine and many other countries that the USA has admitted funding different group inside them to destabilize them. But now it seems trump plan or asked to do the same with both Mexico and canada.
They can justify it with Mexico because of drugs and immigrants, but it is harder for Canada. They US news tried to blame canada for “terrorist” and “illegal immigrants” but it seems they are following the same stories with Mexico.
They'll just claim illegal immigrants represent an "invasion." They'll use that as casus belli to invade Mexican territory, and then simply claim occupied lands as spoils of war. They'll also be able to make a practical argument, "well Mexico clearly can't manage the border regions. Look at the anarchy there!"
I don't see MAGA trying to seize all of Mexico. They wouldn't want to take the heavily populated core around Mexico City, that's for sure. But the more lightly populated border states? That would be much more tantalizing. Also, they could justify intervention in the border states as "protecting American investments," referring to all the factories US companies have built right across the border.
Relocating an entire industrial plant is hard and expensive. One of the quickest ways to "bring manufacturing back to America" is to simply move the border to encompass already existing factories.
Canada would be a lot harder to justify, but casus belli can always be found. It just takes one person fleeing to Canada to escape charges for getting or performing an abortion. Suddenly Canada is "harboring fugitives." Or attempt to relitigate the US/Canada border disputes of the 1800s. Or just claim fentanyl is being smuggled in from Canada. Etc. A casus belli can always be found or manufactured.
ah yes, the annexed regions of Lebanon, Libya, Iraq, Syria and Yemen.
As far as Lebanon, Syria, etc., the theft of these lands is an explicit goal of "greater israel".
If it's not possible to annex, it's ok to just invade, murder people, steal resources, and create refugee crisis. Check out the current state of Iraq, Yemen, and Libya...
is Israel in the room with us right now?
No, they're a little busy in
And Ukraine, don't forget Ukraine. Just replace the US with Russia in the whole post and you get closer to the truth.
If you cannot see how "ISRAEL" runs the "USA" government through "AIPAC" and how both represent the same "Entity" I would recommend you read more about what they "Publicly" publish and what the "world" see happening.
These are "current" example that where we saw "Israeli" government official say "Not a Country". It also the same when we look at "China" and "Taiwan" and any other "super power" vs "neighbouring nation"
You lost me at Ukraine. Ukraine was a domestic revolution against a Russian puppet government that acted in defiance and betrayal of the Ukrainian people. The Ukrainians didnt need any help getting pissed off and rioting in the streets when their president stabbed the entire nation in the back.
that when the shit hit the fan and the Yanukovitch government was about to fall, every regional and global power on earth was scrambling to try to get a favorable outcome while the streets of Kyiv were being fought between a mob of protestors and those protecting the Puppet state government.
those "phonecalls" that Russian propagandists love to talk about, weren't quite the Gotcha that they think they were, because dozens of countries were having those same phone calls, it doesnt happen often, but anytime a state government falls, thats actually normal for those calls to go on. Its outside actors trying to put the peices back together in a way that benefits them and their interests. (if you think Western countries having those calls on Ukraine's future was bad, boy do I have a horse to sell you on what was happening in Russia, Short version, it resulted in a full scale war.)
People talk about what caused the Euromaidan and who was responsible for it all the time, but critical and central issue they never seem to bring up when they argue about "Big bad Russia, evil CIA coup, etc" is the Ukrainian people. The population of the country where it happened is treated as if it wasn't a factor with agency at all, that they only revolted because some guys at the US embassy gave them some signs and told em to. that line of reasoning frankly needs to be told to fuck off.
I think there is a misunderstanding, the Ukraine reference how a global power "Russia" did the same steps before the military actions.
I thought you were insenuating that Euromaidan was a US coup, which is a common Russian Propaganda Copypasta. my mistake.
Re Ukraine - literally what Russia did, and will continue to do in every other place they can
Is that all? Isn't there another country you're missing?
But then they bitch about China and their wrongdoings in the South China Sea
Yeah because a stupid old man wanting to change the name is totally the same as building islands and putting military bases on then
You're right, but I worry this is an expansion of rhetoric similar to Taiwan. "It's always been our gulf. They're using land on our gulf."
It's done in the same spirit and will go down the same way. You people are just too blind to see the evil these people will put into this world in the next few years.
Besides that, the US definitely doesn't lack in overseas military bases.
You mean the Far West Extra-American Sea
Working on the important stuff first I see! While we're at it, why did we slip back into calling them French fries. We need to throw some serious money at this problem - I'm talkin' make the libs complain we could have ended homelessness money at changing the damn name of fried fucking potatoes!! Yeah, hand me my mountain dew hat! We're dewin this! Murica! Hellz yah!
I can't wait for the 80 trillion dollar investment
That is strangely going to the relatives of the oversight committee, what what can you do, eh?
Just like the fucking Nazis and Communists changing names of cities, roads, etc.. to suit their fucked up agenda. Chemnitz was once Karl-Marx-Stadt and the fucked up Nazis changed many Slavic city and town names along the Polish border before the outbreak of WW II.
This will go over about as well as the Sacagawea dollar coin, and the coin had the advantage of actually being a good idea.
Good. Let him waste his time on petty shit like this.
2016-2020 : President of Alternate Facts 2025-2029: President of Alternate Reality
Delusional LMAO.
I'm so fucking tired of this shit.
Better buckle up. It’s going to be a wild ride…that’s on fire…at a haunted amusement park…in a war zone.
This is not good obviously, but it's also very US-centric to think that name Gulf of America indicates it belongs to the US. In an alternate timeline it would totally make sense to have a gulf between two Americas called the Gulf of America or even the American Sea. But the US has effectively hijacked the name America
We could then call it Gulf of
theAmericas, by simply adding something. (Vandalizing Maps is easy that way)All you need is a sharpie to vandalize maps!
Correct!!!
I feel like it's not great to say "Congress is already prepping" instead of "Marjorie Taylor Greene is prepping legistlation"
She has been legitimized at this point, unfortunately. She has committee assignments and the backing of the Speaker so there's now a high likelihood she has the leverage to get bills passed. Also the incoming GOP trifecta means she will be far far more close to the political center of Congress than ever before.
America isn't even the countries name, it's "The United States OF America" with North America being the continent it's on.
Unitedstatesian Gulf
More meaningless culture war bullshit.
The Onion is running out of material
How about New Mexico state?
Trump tomorrow: "we're renaming the state of New Mexico to the state of New Murica!"
Mexico is formally named Estados Unidos Mexicanos, meaning Unites States of Mexico. How about renaming that to Unites States of America
The United States of Mexican America
Rename the city of Calexico to Calimerica
Fine, then we gotta spend the money to care for the natural life there as if it were ours.
Oh you don't want to spend the money? Figures, you cheapskate "conservatives".
I guess "Bumpkin Bay" is a little too on the nose.
Or maybe "Gulf Of Florida Man."
And French Fries are now Freedom Fries /s
20 some years ago when that happened, I remember saying "What? That's stupid....". I was a teenager at the time. I was yelled at by adults saying "NO! IT'S NOT STUPID!!! WE'RE AMERICANS!!! FREEDOM FRIES ARE AN AMERICAN FOOD!!! WE GROW POTATOES IN IDAHO!!! NOT PARIS!!!!"
Today, I'm 41. Teenager me wasn't immature. Well, ok, I was, on a lot of things. But NOT on this. 41 year old me looks back and says teenager me was right.
This IS stupid.
French fries then, french fries now.
I use the term "freedom units" whether someone tells me that they're 6 shoes and 2 toenails tall instead of using metric.
I mean, just call them Idaho Fries at that point. Besides fufilling your criteria, it's actually more accurate all around. The french fry was NEVER french in orgin. I have no idea how it got that name.
Same thing with fortune cookies. Go over to china, and it's not a thing. They'd be so confused if you went to china and requested an individually wrapped crunchy pastry that comes with a sheet of paper which predicts your future, gives you lottory numbers, and teaches you to speak the local language. All for free because you ate a meal with them.
Yeah, when I put it in text form, it sounds insane, doesn't it? Well, it's also American in orgin.
He won, he doesn't have to make pointless stands anymore but I guess old habits die hard.
Freedom fries all over again
Definitely very important things to be spending time on. And not something his cultists would be yelling about if it was Biden.
Well the US can call it the Gulf of bullshit all they want, for the rest of the world it IS the gulf of Mexico. Renaming it doesn't give them anything extra, or any rights.
Its actually just really really petty and little, just some nonsense so that his base can say " look ge is really working hard for us!"
"Freedom Fries"
I hope he doesn't hear about the Gulf of California. He is not going to understand that the Californias were Mexican and, thus, the Gulf is still named after the fact. He's going to claim some wacky s*it like "the name indicates it belongs to one of our states", "Mexicans are trying to steal California's assets", or something like that.
Wait till he 'rebrands' to
Ameristan
or maybe
Trumpmania
In other news, the moon will be called Lunar America and the Pacific Ocean is now known as the Sea of Freedom.
The media now see's it's job as shutting up and taking the bait, i see
so glad the new government is focussing on this woke nonsense and not things that matter to ordinary people
hope they don’t go with the cliché world war plot this time, tho
And I declare the US to be "South Canada"
*Northern Mexico
Ah, focusing on the importance issues concerning Americans, truly making us great again!
I say USA will now be called ‘Bunch of Dumb Fuck Heads’ My mom already approved it.
whew! I'm glad we solved all the REAL problems so now we can focus on this shit!
I mean, I guess each country has the right to make up their own names if they want to…
Trump knows what he’s doing, I feel his goal is to say more eye catching things to drive peoples focus away from other ongoing things.
The symbolism is on top of the "warmongering on allies" rhetoric, that could, in this case, push for a war on Mexico or takeover of its territorial rights to oil extraction in the Gulf. The lust over Greenland is its strategic role in attacking/defending Europe. The resources there are very expensive to extract due to infrastructure needs. The Panama canal is to stop Chinese trade/influence, but usual US policy is threats/coups instead of offering market prices. Panama canal fees are high due to droughts related to global warming which Trump wants to increase beyond reparability.
This is because Biden signed legislation banning oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.
Muskland sewers
Eehhh, not to rain on your parade but in Ukraine it was Putin's Russia doing the funding and support, not the US.
Not that it matters much, the US has a long history of fucking over other countries, Nicaragua, chile, Iran, just a few examples.
Either way, they've never been as brazen and petty about it
I wonder how long it will be before the white house issues a 9 dash line Trump has hastily marked up with a red permanent marker.
Says the president-incumbant of the Associated Regions of Second Europe.
He's NOT too Old to be President!
I really hope he just dies. And not from a shooter. I don't want his base to have him as a martyr. I want him to have a clogged artery, or a heart attack, and just his body gives out. With his lifestyle, and his eating habits, it wouldn't be too hard to imagine. I mean, he LOVES McDonalds! He can't even eat it when it's hot out of the restaurant. He has to send someone to go get it. Which means he's eating these fries cold, and the sandwiches are luke warm at BEST.
Which really goes to help explain how/why he served that basketball team plates and plates of hours cold McDonalds. THAT'S WHAT HE'S USED TO!!! THAT'S WHAT HE THINKS IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE!!!
Meanwhile, I'm 20-30 years younger, was raised on fast food, and now I can't even eat beef because it gave me cancer. I'm doing my best to try to avoid the foods I'm NOT supposed to have, but that's what I was raised on. That's what I love. I'm also a former alcoholic who gave up drinking. Cold turkey. Imagine one day having to upend your entire palate, and eat only foods you don't like. But I'm doing it. I know it's what my body needs.
Meanwhile this guy is out here literally greasy with junk food, probably 100lbs heavier than I am, 20-30 years older than I am, and he's just hoppin around just fine! While I had to spend almost a year of my life hooked up to radioactive bags to pump cancer drugs into me for days at a time, making me so weak at the time that some days I couldn't even get out of bed.
AND THE GOVERNMENT SAID CANCER IS NOT A DISABILITY!!!
I hate this fat fuck for so many reasons. Many of which are probably shared by the vast majority of you here. But on a personal level I hate him for being the living embodiment of how NOT to take care of yourself, and he's facing no consequences for it. I want the consequences. I want him to have to stop his lifestyle. If I can't even cook my own 90% lean cheeseburgers, I damn sure want him to suffer not being able to eat fast food anymore.
Because everyday he doesn't, it's like saying to me "YOU can't have the foods you love, because it'll make your body sick. However, THIS GUY, who's an irredeemable piece of shit can go ahead and do much much worse with zero consequences, because fuck you."
So yeah. I want him to stuff his piggy little face, and just fall to the floor clutching his chest. I don't want a shooter. I don't want some agent of another government bombing him. I want his death to be his OWN doing. I want him for once in his god damn life to have to answer to consequences of his own actions. I've had to do it for years now. I don't even recognize myself anymore based on my own habits now. Eating honey nut cherrios in the morning? What the fuck? What happened to a bacon double cheeseburger and a bottle of whiskey?
Oh, right. The consequences of my own actions treating my body like shit.
So.....where's his??? He's been treating his body like shit for twice as long as I have. Where's his consequence moment???
Have you had the displeasure of knowing QAnon cultists? There's very little doubt in my mind that they would do anything but delude themselves into thinking that Ding-dong Donald is still alive. I even have the start of a bingo list prepared for what they might claim actually happened:
I feel like you're right that they'd say these things, but it still makes me want to argue.
I guess I don't want to argue you per se. I want to argue earth.......for existing. All of this exists, and I have to live here.
Its my dream that he loudly shits himself within earshot of a really good microphone when he keels over.
Worse than doing nothing, useless garbage. How is their impeachment of Biden going? Did Comer and Jordan resign yet for falling for a spy's testimony as their smoking gun evidence?
We got the first trolling president.
This is his 2nd term as president of the United States of America.
People are sleeping under bridges while they work 40hrs a week... Wtf did you people vote for? I famously abstained entirely for lack of a quality candidate. I'd vote for myself, but I won't be responsible for their shit cannery.
People sleeping under bridges weren't the ones enfranchised to vote.
Does it feel good knowing that you and millions of others abstained, and we ended up with Trump as a result? Good job.
@sumguyonline You do understand that non-votes aren't counted, right?
Choosing not to vote at all, when you could, is one of the dumbest choices you can make. SOMEONE is going to win. They're not all going to lose, or feel bad, because you stayed home.
Your civic duty is to help guide your society through the choices you CAN make. At least decide who you hate more, and vote against them.