How do you feel about the level of censorship in your current instance ?
Since Lemmy is federated, and the admins of each instance choose what’s allowed and what’s not in their own instance.
How do you feel about what’s allowed and what’s not in your current instance ?
I’ll start: I’ve read people complaining about my instance admins, but I haven’t experienced nor seen anything I specifically disagree with.
And I’ve read things they wrote that I absolutely agree with, like not federating with Meta under any circumstances.
So for now, I’m happy with it. If I get banned randomly, I don’t think I’d go to a different instance, though. I’d probably just stop visiting Lemmy altogether.
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I run my own instance, so supremely displeased as expected.
Won't somebody save me from myself!
My instance admin is also extremely oppressive.
Same
As you should be.
literally me
I heard the admin is a nazi commie alien on that instance.
it made me get off of lemmy.world
What was the issue there ?
Lemmy.world is incredibly hostile towards Marxists, or anyone too critical of the Democrats or the US' involvement in the genocide of Palestinians. I imagine @[email protected] has similar complaints based off their username.
My name is a pun off of miao being meow in chinese but sounds similar to Mao. But yes, that is where their censorship is and I disagree with it, but I also disagree with lemmygrad/hexbear censorship.
I elaborated on my views in my top level comment here, but you can't avoid "censorship." You can only pick which bias you want to see more of. Lemmygrad and Hexbear are more open with their biases, and can be trusted to uphold that bias very reliably. Lemmy.world is more subtle, it focuses on selective defederation and selective removals and bans in order to carefully prune a demographic.
Dbzer0 is interesting, it's mostly tech nerds and those enthusiastic about Anarchism, while remaining federated with Lemmy.world, Hexbear, and Lemmy.ml while defederating from Lemmygrad. As such, it generally leans techy Anarchist with a large influx of Liberals from Lemmy.world and some Marxists from Hexbear on occasion. It isn't as heavy handed with removals as Lemmy.world is in my experience, but it definitely is selective with what the mods and admins consider "acceptable Marxism."
Thanks for the knowledgeable break down :)
I didn’t know much of that especially dbzer0 federating hexbear but not lemmygrad. Wonder why?
You’re smart about knowing the clear biases versus the more subtle one’s. Well said!
I never had any particular problem at lemmy.world but I really didn’t like their Luigi decision. The admin of dbzer0 seems nice. I directly asked about not liking ai, which is their focus, and they were very chill in their response
dbzer0 as an instance considers Lemmygrad to be "fake" Marxist-Leninists (which I believe to be sourced from the western-anarchist demographic of dbzer0 in general, rather than actual familiarity with Marxism-Leninism), the geopolitical stance of dbzer0 as an instance is contrary to Lemmygrad and thus the admins deemed this to be an absolute difference. That said, dbzer0 themself is more symapathetic towards Hexbear as Hexbear has a very large number of Anarchists as well as Marxists, and dbzer0 is an Anarchist.
As for Lemmy.world, I have had my own issues with it and been thoroughly soured by them, you can check my modlog if you want to see it, I don't really want to turn this into a drama post.
In case you check my modlog, here is the context for the [email protected] ban. The moderator banned me for calling out their regurgitation of white supremacist "anti-DEI" nonsense about non-white people being included in God of War. They since deleted their account and locked the sub, now its just bot posts for the most part.
Thanks for further explaining! How did you learn all this?
How do I check your specific modlog? I’ve also had some people randomly attacking me….
They want to keep their noses clean so they can continue being the main character of Lemmy.
All hail the non-offesive median opinion and saying Lu1g1 to bypass filters.
Yep, and they can't even handle their own current position, hence them attempting to make Sublinks a thing and make their own, worse Lemmy.
Sublinks GitHub looks pretty dead
Figured it'd die, Lemmy has been in dev for years, starting from scratch to rewrite a new form in Java (thanks Edie!) seems like far too much effort for far too little return.
Skill issue. @[email protected] would simply rewrite it from scratch in Clojure in a month.
Java, not javascript
I thought sublinks was beehaw’s project https://beehaw.org/comment/3809526
Kind of a joint effort from what I've seen.
why does your name show banned?
Admin's didn't like Luigi discussions to the point of not allowing discussion of Jury nullification. It wasn't not supporting violence but not supporting most discussion of this topic. To me, that shows protection of a certain neoliberal class. Like the opposite of lemmygrad.
They do support violence, just the old terror, as Mark Twain would put it.
by that you mean state terror?
Capitalist system terror and opression, though considering USA is at the stage of imperialism for which merging of capitalism and state is characteristical, we can say it's the terror of the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie.
.ml here, I'm happy with this community. I know the reputation it has, but honestly, I haven't really seen it. I'm a hardcore leftist, but I've been very critical of China, Russia, etc. And I'm not a tankie. Obviously haven't been banned or had my comments removed.
The mods here seem quite reasonable, and of course if folks don't agree, there are a lot of other instances.
I used to be a free-speech absolutist when I was young, but then I realized that there isn't such a thing. Even the few places online that pride themselves on having "no censorship" like 4-chan still have a handful of things that they don't allow.
Quite frankly, I think those places are pretty nasty overall and I have no desire to emulate them. Racists, Pedos, lgbt-phobes don't need a platform or to have their opinions elevated or taken seriously.
I wouldn't think a top university's physics department is improved by devoting classes and curriculum to flat earth or 7-day creationism. Likewise, I don't think a forum or server is made better by allowing racists and bigots to have a safe space on it.
Of course, you have to decide what crosses the line, but welcome to real life. There's a difference between a hardcore neo-nazi who thinks Jews and black folks are literal sub-humans, and your 87 year-old grandpa who unironically calls the employees at his favorite asian buffet, "Chinamen."
In general communities it's ok here but in global events it's easy to see in the modlog that certain topics which are not favorable for Socialist-In-Name-Only are hidden very fast.
I haven't checked the log, but I get my news from several different sources, Lemmy is only one of them.
I haven't really had any bad experiences with .ml communities or users. I consider myself a Marxist actually. I mostly saw the China, Russia, and North Korean dick sucking on Reddit. I remember someone on Reddit actually arguing that leftists should use Redstar OS (North Korean Linux distro designed to spy on its users) because its made by a socialist country that cares about its people. Guess that's why they're executed for stealing bread. I'm sorry about your instances bad reputation, I really haven't seen it. Besides, there are assholes in every community.
I have been banned twice from .ml just for mentioning that Russia shot down a civilian airplane in Ukraine (the first time)
Can't really speak to specifics. I'll just say that there are definitely posts on .ml news and commentary communities that go against the typical views of many .ml members, and they are left up by the mods and allowed to be discussed and debated.
Every community has censorship, it's a spectrum. But that's what I love about the federation model and FOSS in general. There are always different communities with different focuses and standards, something for everybody. And still we all have the freedom to block content we don't want to see or support.
I think 99.99% of Lemmy is hardcore leftist so it's no wonder they don't fuck with you, so it's no wonder that you have no complaints.
Lemmy largely has 3 camps, the Anarchists, the Marxists, and the Liberals, and each instance leans overwhelmingly in one or 2 of those directions. Looking at the number of active users on each instance, at this point it's fair to say that the liberal camp is probably the largest, as much as I wish that wasn't true.
That does make for ample radicalization territory, however.
Which is the Anarchists instance?
Most Anarchists I've interacted with are from hexbear.net
Depends on type of Anarchist, but Hexbear.net, slrpnk.net, and dbzer0 all label themselves as friendly to Anarchists. Some are also on Lemmy.ml, and a few are on Lemmy.world.
My instance has no censorship and federates with all, and moderation only happens for obvious illegal content, not someone having an opinion that is not popular.
To me, it's what the fediverse is supposed to be, so very happy.
Same
"Censorship" has become a buzzword and lost all of its meaning
The line is at least very blurred with moderation. One person's moderation is another person's censorship.
Its the same thing. People are just primed into thinking that censorship is universally bad in every instance.
It simply means that somebody stopped you from talking.
That's it.
Not bad. The thing with "censorship" is that there are no real "free-speech" instances, all instances have opinions they deem intolerable and thus prune (whether selectively or overtly), and many selectively federate and defederate in a manner that makes one camp of thought more dominant, ie liberalism on Lemmy.world via defederation from Hexbear and Lemmygrad, etc.
Lemmy.ml is quicker to remove comments that break the rules than other instances, but is also more broadly federated and thus gets more points of view than, say, Lemmy.world. Lemmy.world on the other hand is more selective with what it removes, but intentionally defederates from instances with heavy concentrations of Marxists, a more subtle form of "censorship" that ultimately shapes the dominant narratives on its instance.
What this ultimately means is that the answer is to openly admit bias, which exists in everyone, and accept that as a natural consequence of the fediverse model. I wouldn't go to Lemmy.world if I wanted to know the opinion of Marxists just like I wouldn't go to Lemmygrad if I wanted to know the opinion of liberals on a subject, this recognition of bias is an intrinsic aspect of the federated model and needs to be openly recognized, otherwise sabre rattling about "censorship" between instances becomes a never-ending source of unconstructive drama.
I'm happy with Lemmy.ml. I feel like moderation is taken seriously here and that is a very good thing. I don't care for "free speech" that provides a platform for immoral points of view. For example, I do not need to consider the opinions of racists or Nazis. I've heard them plenty and there is no redeeming value in their speech. It is a settled debate. Anyone who doesn't understand that deserves your suspicion.
Also on .ml and agree. Nazi shit on an instance makes it unusable as far as I'm concerned.
The only thing I want to know about nazis is how far away they are so I can adjust my aim.
I'm very comfortable on the .ml instances where I participate, mostly reading, commenting much less because I'm still learning and considering perspectives that I was heavily propagandized to reject. My questions are answered, my thoughts are challenged, and sometimes I have to chew on that for awhile. Other thoughts it seems are "we won't know until we know," and I'm okay with that. It's not always comfortable, it's very often uncomfortable, but I feel it's necessary for my personal development as a human being. I don't know everything, no one can, but I'm willing to consider perspectives that were once foreign and/or shunned by myself. It's not even necessarily that I automatically believe everything I read, more that I'm working to suspend disbelief in order to gather and consider more data. Iow, the older I get and more I understand, the more I realize how much I don't know and understand.
It sounds like you have a great attitude, and I can relate to a lot of what you say.
.ml rocks. I know people are upset when tankies post walls of text but it's their space to. I just wish they could live how they want, same as I do. Even if we want very different things in life. Want some get some.
You don't have to craft a PhD dissertation any time they reply to you. Just move on to the next shit post. Some feel obligated, and that's your perogative. I have to many part time jobs to reply to everyone here.
Just in case anyone needs to investigate what instances are federated/defederated from each other.
https://defed.xyz/
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Most important is that passwords are always censored for others: ********
Really? Let me try.
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It really works!
I find, it's useful to piss off the nazis. For example, lemmy.ml has a word filter, which has hardly an impact on anything. But the free-speech absolutists who want to be allowed to say that we should murder ethnic groups of people, because they think that's an opinion, they see that as censorship, so they don't care to join here.
I'm no Nazi, I just think it's infantilizing to filter out certain words so I left .ml. We're all adults here. Enjoy what you like though, I'm happy with /0.
I'm definitely not saying anyone who's not a fan of word filters is a nazi. I'm just saying that nazis disproportionally dislike them more, so it's a good thing in my book. But yes, definitely enjoy what you like, too. I would be more critical of the word filter, if it wasn't possible for you to just join a different instance.
The beauty of the fediverse. We all self select our digital communes that best reflects our values. All while not having to switch to a new service or product.
Any words in particular? I can only think of certain ableist and misogynist slurs which are uniquely(?) censored on .ml, which I would imagine could be deeply hurtful to those who have been subjected to abuse and discrimination, and are thrown around too readily by ignorant and uncaring sorts (including my past self.)
It would be nice, of course, to be in a world where such measures weren't necessary to create a welcoming space for all, but we're evidently some way off.
I feel OK about it, for the most part. I can say "genocide is always wrong" and not get banned here.
Scientists working to end West Nile virus by eliminating mosquitos ability to reproduce.
Until you get specific
But ya can’t see the word bitch (or a bunch of other swears)
Oh no, not the tyranny of the regular expression filtering of a few bigoted words! This is fascism!
Bitch isn’t a bigoted word lawl
It's misogynistic, pretty clear cut bigotry.
Not if you’re calling something cool “bitchin’”!
The root word is baked in misogyny, that doesn't change that dynamic.
I only see removed but this comment makes me think of female dogs
Yerp, that’s exactly correct hahaha
Other instances don’t remove words
we aren't federated with NSFW instances and thats honestly okay because I use this account in public.
I love that lemm.ee is federated with everyone, because that means I frequently encounter ideas that I - gasp - disagree with!
Not only that, but Lemmy gives us a decent amount of control over our own curation, at the user level. We're from the same instance, but our feeds could be totally opposite each other dependant on who/what we choose to filter/block.
It's one of my favorite things about this platform, and I feel like .ee's ethos really works alongside it.
Yea Im pretty happy with lemm.ee too. Great instance great (former) admin/founder. Great admin team un general. Could not be happier
I think there's a huge difference between seeing opposing ideas and just seeing a bunch of propaganda and brigading.1
That's a bit of an interesting dillema. Anyone that supports something consistently is doing propaganda, so it's generally better if people reveal their biases. As for brigading, it's difficult to tell if there's just a large group of an ideologically different instance coming across a post in their all feed or of its a concerted effort.
I haven’t had a single issue with feeling censored at DB0. If anything, it is users from other instances acting like they own the whole Fediverse that I have occasionally had a problem with, but I don’t think any of them were moderators.
Yah, moderation on db0 is fantastic. I have zero complaints.
I honestly feel like parasocial friends with DB0 at this point, and he is a really standup person in my opinion. Definitely the kind of intelligent nerd I admire.
I sat down with my partner last night, to help him pick out an instance to join. He said he wasn't unixy enough to feel at home on SDF.
I feel comfortable with his decision to join dbzer0. Folks from dbzer0 seem like good sorts, and somehow none of y'all have pissed me off enough to get added to my block list.
I'm on world. Fuck the admins of world.
I’m on lemmy.one which has disabled downvoting. If I had known in advance I would have picked another instance. Unfortunately, Lemmy doesn’t have a mechanism to transfer your account to another instance yet.
My random choice of instance over a year ago with zero research has worked out well so far.
Same here
Pretty good, it only defeds from two instances, one used by pedos and threads.
My app (voyager) doesn't show an extention following your username, are you also on mander.xyz?
Yes I am. That's how lemmy's web interface shows your username to me.
It's a little high for my tastes, notably in blocking piracy communities from other servers. I don't even care to participate in them; it's a matter of principle.
I've been thinking about switching over to lemmy.today as it's not currently defederated with anyone, so I can decide who to block and keep for myself. It's based in Oregon, and I like the idea of joining an instance close to me. I do worry about Lemmy.world being so overly dominate in the federated-lemmy-space.
But many of the communities that I participate in are lemmy.world, and it's nice that they send me an automated notice whenever a post/comment of mine is removed. I've already subscribed to many communities and would have to do that all over again. and I haven't thought of a creative new username.
You can use the same username since they're unique per instance. I had the same one on Lemmy.world
The automated censorship that keeps out CSAM and blatant trolling and scams? I love it.
The moderation that's done over the whole instance. That's understandable as it's a large attack surface for regulatory or state actor interference.
The community mods, that depends on the /c and honestly it's the same as it's ever been. It's wildly variable from person to person.
What censorship?
Ironic instance name for one you're implying is uncensored.
I think it's quite fitting for federated social media.
Can you point us to some disagreements the people in your instance have had with moderators? Do you have any specific links for us to view? If censorship is happening I'd like to know more about it.
I'm an instance owner (it's very small) and the only thing I don't tolerate is hate messages and subversive spam ("www,BuyGoldHere123,Spam,me"). I haven't yet needed to delete anything my users created.
No because there aren't any. There are very few active users on WG and I have no desire for it to ever become very big. I originally created it for myself to experiment with and I don't really promote or advertise the instance itself even though people are welcome to join.
The people who have joined tend to share common interests so things have mostly remained the same as when it was just me. The "walled" part of WG is more or less the application process itself, since it removes easy access for troll and bot accounts.
I've seen some of these spam posts in our communities before but always from outside instances. They are very easy to keep under control and I wouldn't consider that censorship, just garbage removal.
I'm on my own instance, so i dont have anything to complain.
Most of us never say anything interesting enough to censor.
Most of the censoring is mob dogpiling.
But ya, I hate it.
And even if you don't get censored, look at who you're talking to. You're trying to reach the 1 smart person in 1000.
What we need is the 1990s internet. A collection of niche communities. And the 99% stays way over there in facebookland or whatever they had back then.
I just had all of my comments deleted by the mod of a vegan group because I questioned one person. Seems lemmy is bringing over mods from reddit and their attitudes.
I'm thinking it's just normal human power tripping. Which is why we need to find something better than the present system.
I have encountered very little if any at all
From what I’ve read, in our instance, it’s being critical of China that gets you banned.
But I don’t know how much of that is people being straight-up racist/xenophobic and then conflating it with being critical.
Why don't you try saying something critical of China but not racist, and see if it gets removed?
Me? Sure.
The Tianamen Square Massacre was shameful.
It sure was, those American backed separatists that stole military weapons should be ashamed of themselves for killing that many people before the army could respond.
You guys are so obsessed with America.
Stop trying to be the centre of the world for five minutes.
No but literally the CIA infiltrated the college at the square, lead the assault, and provided the weapons.
And look at that, it didn't get removed
Here are all the achievements I've gathered with non-racist random comments of satire, criticism of fascism, Trump, and news posts from the same sources as other posters
Yeah the profanity censorship can be a bit weird but its nice that I don't see slurs
I'm not a huge fan of the pro-China stuff in lieu of the pro-US stuff on other servers, but its mostly chill
I'm completely unaware of it and DGAF.
I am the only (AFAIK) Italian instance and pretty happy. No censorship.
I don't know how people from Lemmy.world stand it, honestly.
Removed by mod
My instance is great.
In that case check the modlog and if it's unreasonable why not try out another instance?
Sh.itjust.works has been brilliant, tbh.
High uptime, reasonable admins.
Very happy with it
I don't feel I'm missing out on anything important. I don't want my instance to engage in any form of ideological censorship (in any direction at all unless required by law) and don't feel they are doing that. But I'm glad this thread exists because it tells me about other instances I could try if I ever became dissatisfied with mine.
I'm happy with my instance, no complaints!
Is it because you are free to talk strange? Or is it because you don't talk strange?
I don't generally say hateful things, so no risk of being censored for that, and I like that my instance doesn't censor anything that could possibly be considered a slur the way .ml does.
I was originally on .ml and I remember seeing a comment that had a legitimate use of a word that could be considered a slur in another context. I don't remember the exact scenario, but it was something equivalent to saying "response time retardation" in relation to drunk driving. And "retardation" was censored, which created unnecessary confusion. I'd been thinking of switching instances anyway, and that silly little example is what pushed me over the edge. I guess I'd rather not be cushioned from every word that might be hurtful, especially when doing so can cause confusion.
No hate or disrespect to .ml, by the way - I'm very grateful to Dessalines and crew for creating lemmy and Jerboa, and I respect their right to administer their instance the way they see fit. To me that's the neat thing about the fediverse - it allows for a "different strokes for different folks" approach. :)
Yeah the exact thing you described happened here as well, it's a tiny bit annoying although not enough for me to switch instances over
If there is any I have not noticed it.
I haven't knowingly encountered any
Massive fan of feddit.uk and Lemm.ee, moderation has been great, feddit.uk the admin have shown a willingness and urgency in helping user. My personal experience; helping with resetting a backend issue effecting my account and looking into bot'ed down voting when I DM'd them.
Lemm.ee is just good with their federation philosophy which can be found on the sidebar.
Lemm.ee is nice. No complaints.
Agreed. I appreciate the well-thought and out level headed approach lemm.ee has taken.
Actually, for a moment I was annoyed they wouldn’t defederate with a certain offensive instance. But, now, looking back on it, I think they made the right decision. I appreciate that defederation is an extreme tool that shouldn’t be used lightly.
Mostly I haven't had issues with it, I was banned from an egg_irl community on one instance, I forget which, for not espousing violence though.
It is precisely what I want.
Instance level censorship isn't much for the user to worry about (I run my own, so it's zero problem for me). Most censorship happens at the group level by group owners, and the admins on the instance the group is hosted.
I still don't have a problem with it though. You subscribe to a group on a certain instance, you cannot be too surprised if you get censored there.
I’m satisfied, I haven’t seen or noticed any censorship.
I have no problems with lemm.ee. Mastodon on the other hand...
I got booted from my first instance for going against prevailing opinion even though I was perfectly polite about it.
My instance doesn’t seem to have any censorship as far as I can tell, but despite what terminally online people would expect, it’s not overrun by Nazis.
Ditto. SDF feels very nerdy and comfortable.
It works. One day I even tried to piss a mod off and he told me I could leave, and he didn't care if I did.
So I said,... "based, I'm staying."
No one on sh.itjust.works has ever thrown a hissy fit over any of my arguments or stopped me from scorched-earthing a conservative, so they're a-ok by me!
Doesn't impact me so fine with it.
It's not bad at all so far.
I run my instance so I am perfectly happy with the level of censorship.
Said instance is narrowly focused on free software and free culture issues, so unrelated politics would be off-topic. That said there is a fairly bog standard code of conduct prohibiting bigotry, nazism and the like.
Lemmy.nz is amazing, the big instances are all much worse.
My instance is great. I have no complaints and seen no censorship.
Both on lemm.ee and thelemmy.club its not very strict its just Common sense rules.
No issues here
Lemmy.world defederated with many interesting instances.
No piracy communities for example!
I couldn't stand it.
I've had some disagreements with admins of my instance and mods of some communities here and I'm yet to be banned. So, it's alright I suppose. Although I must say that I'm on the same general side of the political spectrum as the admins.
I am very happy with feddit.org . I have not seen an issue with overmoderation, but I have also not seen a problem with spam or trolling. I believe hexbear is (rightfully so) defederated but other then that i did not notice any defederations.
The do not allow pornography which I support as you would essentially be hosting it yourself when it is federated which can become icky quickly. But I think this is a bit of a difference to other instances.
The instance also has a nice little community which is active enough to not be boring but small enough to feel like a community (might also be because of having a common language)
honestly too light
You might consider crossposting this to similar communities on other instances. .ml has quite the reputation for censorship, so that's definitely going to shape the responses you get here.
Lemmy.world also has a reputation for censorship, what actually happens is different instances fall into different ideological camps and tend to defederate and remove/ban that which does not affirm the dominant ideology of the instance. Lemmy.ml gets a bad reputation from Lemmy.world and adjacent communities because Lemmy.ml is far more broadly federated and thus removes more rulebreaking content, generally.
Recognizing bias is a necessary part of the fediverse experience, everyone is biased in some direction and defederation provides a more subtle means by which to "censor." One could say Lemmy.world has banned all of Hexbear through defederation, which is more heavyhanded than Lemmy.ml ever has been. All this means is that Lemmy.world is more subtle with its own censorship and Lemmy.ml more overt.
Thank you, I mostly just wanted to quickly point out the weaknesses of asking such a question here and only here, but I really appreciate your reply. I was not in a position to elaborate at the moment, so I really do appreciate someone else elaborting & providing additional perspectives, and while we may not necessarily see eye to eye, I think you've pointed out some differences (in a relatively neutral way) that are important for users to be aware of when they navigate the various instances.
While I'm posting from .world, this was never intended as my "primary" account. My "primary" account was on kbin, and now that I've accepted that kbin isn't coming back, I've been wanting to move somewhere else for my main account, but life + ADHD + too many choices has been getting in the way of that, and many other things I need to do. I hate signing up for things, so I'm hoping my next instance will be a good fit for me for a good while.
I got banned from a community for saying I wasn't going to call a vagina a front hole. Apparently that's transphobic.
No, you were banned for being bigoted because, checking the mod log, you are hostile to trans and disabled people and considered transwomen to be dangerous to ciswomen. Your mod log is public.
That's not true at all - just because a mod writes it - doesn't make it fact. I explained myself in those posts. Anything over in these instances is immediately deemed transphobic whether it is or not. If you don't fall in line 100%, and want to have any kind of opinion - it's immediately labeled transphobic and removed.
Yes, I am going off of your posts and comments, not the mod reasons.
The mod log displays your comments and posts as they were when they were deleted. You can freely read what was removed and why.
As for your comments now, they are again transphobic. "Overrepresentation" is a nonsense issue, your issue is that trans individuals are centered in media despite making up a minority of the population does not actually matter. Stories are not meant to center people perfectly proportional to demographics, such a mechanism ends up reinforcing existing power dynamics and plays into transphobia.
Additionally, children learning that trans people exist is not going to "turn them trans" or harm them, just like children learning gay people exist will not harm them. This is more transphobic nonsense. Your opinions are removed because they are harmful and perpetuate transphobic narratives that directly harm trans individuals.
Supper happy with lemmy.word
You can actually have a conversation there without the whole thing being taken over by people who write like they are edgy 14 year old American tankies.
Mine's cool.
Yours otoh will ban you for political disagreements (read: supporting the authoritarian states they don't like OR not supporting the authoritarian states they do like) and censors the word "bitch," which is why I left the second new instances popped up. As an anti-any-authoritarian who considers that a bitchin' opinion it's not the place for me.
All instances ban based on political disagreements, and this is largely dictated by which of the 3 general ideological "camps" on Lemmy the instance leans towards, be it liberalism, Marxism, or Anarchism. Instance choice is largely a selection of which bias you prefer, as everyone has bias.
Censoring misogynistic slurs is a good thing as well, in my opinion
You’re on one of, if not the most heavily censored instances and you should try something else out
They're not on .world, where you can get instance banned for suggesting Ukraine might lose or trump isn't marginally worse than Harris.
World and ml are both really bad for the same reasons just different sides yes
You really have to try to get banned in ml. You'll get banned on world for disagreeing with the US Democrats.
Or banned for asking why something was removed and quoting the mod log
I haven't been banned from either, but I have had .ml mods remove comments speaking negatively of hexbear based on completely imaginary rules that aren't listed anywhere. Meanwhile, in that same discussion, hexbear users were brigading me and making literal death threats and their comments were allowed to remain.
I generally disagree. Lemmy.ml is more broadly federated than slrpnk.net or Lemmy.world, as an example, so really it's just "censorship" of a different bias and a different manner. All instances "censor," whether it be removing content that breaks the rules or defederating from instances that are ideologically opposed. This is especially prevalent on Lemmy, as the demographics largely fall ideologically into either the liberal camp, the Marxist camp, or the Anarchist camp, and these camps are concentrated on different instances.
Correct on being more federated yes. ml and world are both just too heavy handed with overzealous mods IMO. I’ve started using a couple other accounts that are on instances more federated and less moderated as well
More gets removed from Lemmy.ml as a consequence of its own broad federation, which appears as overzealousness.
Say something about the Big C and you get hit with a message from admins.