Spyke
lemmy.world

Why are we pretending like this isn't prudent on NYPD's part? If this weren't 2000 miles away I'd probably show up, if not to try and bust him out then at the very least to throw shit at the cops and yell. And if I'm considering driving a prius thru the fence to free the guy, I can only imagine what the non suburban-cishet-white-male-techie demographic is feeling about it.

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Vedltreply
lemmy.world

Yeah, I assumed it wasn't too keep him under control, but because of the hero worship he's receiving.

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Of course it still looks really bad on camera. This is one of those lose/lose situations where your best course of action still amplifies a message you probably don't want to amplify.

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Absolutely. Turns out people still hate murderers, and like justice. Hence the love for luigi and why Derrick Murderer hasn't got crowds demanding his release...

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arinreply
lemmy.world

Makes him look way more important tho

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nepenthesreply
lemmy.world

To people who don't know the story (ie potential jurors) it could be detrimental, but I'm sure his lawyer will address that.

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Does any potential juror possibly not know about this? We're not talking about rare mineral slave miners here.

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Nasanreply
sopuli.xyz

I'd try to get close enough to look like one of those true crime fanatics and throw my bra and panties at him. Pretty sure he would know how to use the bra wire to make lockpicks.

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Kiwi_fellareply
lemmy.world

I think out of all I've been reading, your comment has brought me a lot joy and smiles. Thank you for something good on a Friday night after a tough week.

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Nasanreply
sopuli.xyz

Glad to help, as someone who fits the specified demographic in the comment I originally replied to. Except white, I have no ethnic background that would make me even remotely white. Hope the rest of the holiday season looks up for you, cheers!

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flickerreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

I'm like the whitest woman I've ever met. Maybe if a bunch of us make posters with glitter paint like we're going to see a boy band and shower him with bras, our odds will go up both that he'll get one and keep it long enough, and that they'll assume we're "harmless."

...actually if we did the first part we could probably overwhelm them and free him.

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I like this idea. If any of the cops that move him in and out of his cell have the stereotypical cop mentality, they might make him put on one of the bras to emasculate him. Unknowingly giving him the keys to freedom.

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lemm.ee

I hate wearing underwire bras, but I'd make an exception for something like this.

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We can put a comfy sports bra on underneath so we don't have to deal with the bouncing when we run away.

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That sounds completely reasonable, until you realize the mayor of NYC was there right behind him. That one little detail blows up the whole story and makes you realize that it was just a photo op.

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I think they're on top of a building after the helicopter landed. Don't quote me on that. I know you're just bullshitting but if you really want to do something don't go throw shit at cops and get yourself arrested, do something smart.

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lemmy.world

Yeah no shit, crowds didn't gather around to ask for the release of the college killer.

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^ this.
The media outreach of one person was huge and is a bigger risk to transfer than the other. Ill let you all figure out who is who

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lemmy.zip

They're treating him like he tried to blow up Gotham City when all he did was kill Lex Luthor.

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samus12345reply
lemm.ee

Nah, more like one of Luthor's underlings. Andrew Witty would be more equivalent to Lex Luthor.

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jlai.lu

So, given that 4 students is equal to 1 cop and that 1 CEO is more or less equal to 30 cop, We can say that a student is equal to 0.25 cop So a CEO is equal to 120 students live. As they have been around 70 victim to school shooting by year and around 300 school shooting for the last 3 years in the USA, we can deduct that the death of a CEO is around 2 year of school shooting combined (not taking into account the wounded) so around 600 school shooting.

Is my math correct?

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Depending on whether you mean Sandy Hook/Columbine type shootings or any shooting that involves any school property in any fashion then either mostly white or mostly black. If you're averaging a school shooting a day, then you're including any shooting involving school property so mostly black but also fewer students than you'd expect (a lot of "school shootings" are just gang violence that involves school property in some fashion and a surprising number are accidental discharge of a concealed carry that hits no one).

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You're supposed to set up a system of equations and use substitution or row reduction to solve. It's easy! They let you use a ti-89plus titanium, so make sure you're familiar with how to do this on your calculator.

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JcbAzPxreply
lemmy.world

lol, there are actually fewer escorting Superman in a scene meant to be over the top.

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midwest.social

My favorite part is when he stands up to talk to the mirrored glass the handcuffs just pop apart like they weren't even there in the first place. Four military soldiers in this picture for a man who could literally turn them into pink mist

VS the entourage NYPD gave Luigi. An unarmed man with a back injury. They really are scared.

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They're weak. They don't like us realizing A, they can easily die no matter how much money they have even security can't always save you and B, the only thing that keeps us from killing them is this veil of society, a sense of doing wrong/getting in trouble with the law.

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This tells me they see Luigi as a more dangerous threat than the military saw fucking Superman in that movie.

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No, it's the maga, I mean the wokes, I mean the global warming deniers, I mean the alphabet people...

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There really is no other interpretation. Who can look at this and possibly suggest that they are on our side?

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I wish ppl would understand this more. Instead they're hyper fixated on more superficial issues.

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discuss.tchncs.de

He's high profile and people might want to break him out. That's probably the reason.

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lemmy.world

Bullshit take a good look at that photo. Fucking mayor is standing right behind him. If there was any chance of violence or a breakout the fucking mayor wouldn't be there. This was a publicity stunt.

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The guy on the bottom terrorized a section of two states. There were people looking for him. The type of people who live in rural Idaho. Oh dang, I meant to reply above you

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samus12345reply
lemm.ee

It's both. More security so the rabble doesn't try to free Robin Hood, and a high profile perp walk to try and deter them from getting any ideas about doing what he did.

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What that I said gives any indication that they aren't cowards?

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acargitzreply
lemmy.ca

Meh, bullshit. Was there a credible threat of that happening?

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Pretty sure I've read a million comments of people supporting him and stating he deserves to be free and that he's a modern day Robin Hood, so...yes, there is credibility to that statement lol

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It would make more sense that they just killed another CEO on the other side of town when they stationed all these guards to move a CEO killer. Why would you break him out. There are 300 million other CEO killers out there getting trained by governmental failure every day.

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Does Luigi want to escape? Who knows. Do people want to break him out? Probably :D

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They're afraid he might 3D print an escape copter and break free...

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lemmy.world

Are there any photos online, where cops don't look like absolute bitchmade pussies? JFC

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lemmy.world

There were a few pictures during the BLM protests were the cops were friendly with the protesters. Reportedly, the cops beat the protesters right after the press left.

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lemm.ee

Is there anything stopping normal folks from wearing PRESS attire when demonstrating?

Seems like a logical defense against this sort of shit.

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fedia.io

Hero needs to have his posse.

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NutWrenchreply
lemmy.ml

I know, right? Some billionaire might jump out of the crowd and try to start some shit. Gotta be ready for them.

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lemmy.world

It's making a statement that if you go after the rich/CEOs - they'll throw every resource into finding you.

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cabbagereply
piefed.social

The lesson of the story seems to be to keep the fuck away from McDonalds.

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Andrewreply
piefed.social

I've started to doubt the McDonald's story - I don't see how anybody could have recognised him, based on the photos that were released. The FBI were given LM's name on the 5th (as someone who had been reported missing), and they arrested him on the 9th. My conspiracy theory is that I think they found him using means that they don't want us to know about, and sent a group of ex-cops to McDs, to loudly talk about him until they were overheard by an employee. So it could've happened anywhere, really.

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prolereply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

They do this shit all the time, it's called "parallel construction"

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They want to look super scared and weak. Its how I see them when it takes that many fedbois for one dude.

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lemmy.world

On a possibly unrelated note. If you were with the NYPD, would you pull strings to be part of that escort? Just a shower thought.

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Oh yeah. Like I said in another post, they probably billed six hours of overtime for the ten minute walk. Cops love money just like most of us and they have all kinds of ways to make overtime and danger bonus pay and shit like that without actually working.

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reddthat.com

that's a trick question: pigs don't shower

i apologize. i'm going to stop calling police pigs. i have been working on it for a year and failing but i am going to xmas gift myself the right to stop calling them pigs.

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Dogiedog64reply
lemmy.world

Yeah, they just roll around in their own slop and shit, squealing in ecstasy.

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lemmy.zip

Well, I mean, it's Emmanuel Goldstein here.

You know, the arch nemesis of the Party, the guy in every Two Minutes of Hate?

Obviously his capture warrants a significant security presence, who knows what he's capable of.

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Fast-forward a few months and one memory hole later, headline reads 'Infamous Terrorist Emmanuel Goldstein arrested for murder'.

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lemmy.world

Well, Elon and Donald have taken care of the "salaried" thing now. But yes, they are showing him off like Hannibal Lector. They have treated worse people better, but they just killed "blacks", not CEOs.

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hauireply
lemmy.giftedmc.com

They‘re just treating him like this because it is less common to kill a CEO than students or black people.

I hope nobody changes that, sincerely. I really hope that, from the bottom of my heart. If someone was to hunt CEOs for sport, that would be so awful! Oh dear lord I would not want to live in a world where poor innocent CEOs were hunted like dogs.

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It would be a horribly dystopian twist on Battle Royale / Hunger Games if CEOs of companies found to have caused needless death or suffering, were rounded up and pitted against each other. And televised.

Nobody should think of that. It’s terrible. Can nobody write that down please.

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Race doesn't matter as much once you have enough money and power. Think of Jo Bob from the widget factory and his black friend George. He hates black people but he loves George because he's One of the Good Ones™️

Edit- Once I was at a party at a guy I've known for a long time's new house. He was making big money (for us) as a factory supervisor and got to buy a house. He and his wife's parents are rich but I don't know if they gave them money or not.

He's from out in the country. One of my wife's friends from high school. He gets drunk and starts talking about how there's only one black guy working in his division and that guy laughs at the racist jokes and doesn't care when people say removed.

Now I've ruined people's time before for very stupid reasons, but this time I had a good one. I loudly told him what he and his employees were doing was racist as fuck and the black dude was going along with being dehumanized because he needed the fucking job. He's hated me ever since.

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lemmy.world

WTF, don't they have a picket line to break or something?

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lemmy.world

Violence is never the answer. Violence is the question, and the answer is "YES".

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of course it was.

What else would they use it on? Helping low income and disadvantaged people? Pfffff.

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"The function of that police action, those interventions in Central America and the Middle East, is system sustaining. It is to maintain that overall system. You don't look at the particular cost. I can demonstrate to you that in every single bank robbery, the cost of the police was more than the actual money that the robbers took from the bank. Does that mean there's no economic interest involved? They're not protecting the banks? No! Of course it's economic; of course they're defending the banks. If they didn't stop that bank robbery, regardless of the cost, it could jeopardize the entire banking system. There are people who believe that the function of the police is to fight crime. That's not true; the function of the police is social control and protection of property."

Michael Parenti

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lemm.ee

Not to mention one did their act in NYC and fled to suburban Pennsylvania while the other had to deal with police from a far more mundane environment. People who think the comparison can be used to paint police intentions (as if they're even a single body like some army of droids and not individuals who have free will to show up) are just sad, it would be like saying "the 1918 plague was not as widely reported or is as known as the smallpox plague, therefore it killed less or was less a priority". People are sadly disproportionate, that's just how things seem to have worked in history.

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Cops: WEEeee Are The SuperFash!

Luigi: Shutuuup

Cops: Weeeeee Are teh Suuper Faaash!

Luigi: Shut uuuuuuup!

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It's all about attention. They wanted their photos taken. Luigi made history, while children getting massacred is just another day in the USA.

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They had to maintain their "fearful" image, or they wouldn't be able to do their job.

Not like they're even doing a good job with their real job. $7.50 an Hour ended up doing their job for them.

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kbin.earth

might as well, if they're salaried they're getting paid either way.

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That was my first reaction, but cops make mad overtime. If they are salaried then they are definitely considered "non exempt" which means they can make overtime. Shit like this can let them bill a bunch of overtime hours.

When I was young I heard several adults say something along the lines of "yeah cops love that overtime". I thought it meant they worked all the time. Now that I'm in a job where I bill my own hours I get it. They just claim a bunch of overtime for something unusual like this.

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This meme is STUPID! Those Kids were POOR Dumby! I'm Pro Life and I want to Save The Children!

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lemmy.world

Stop this nonsense. He is now a public figure, and the police have all the reasons in the world to encounter protests.

If the police sent 5 guys, encountered a small group who attach them you'd all be meme'ing about the police incompetency.

This is the dumbest reason to make fun of the police who make it easy.

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lemm.ee

This is a perp walk, the police/DA/et al made this happen - and ensured the media was there to capture the moment of him in ‘inmate orange’ flanked by heavily armed state police. Absolutely pre trial prejudicial influence.

Given the speed at which his arraignment and extradition from PA happened, and the fact that the NYPD could have chosen multiple different routes and methods to get him to NYC, he could have been shuffled into a regular prison bus in a police convoy from the airport, with blacked out windows - like is common in Europe where this kind of malfeasance actually results in mistrials and acquittals.

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stinkyreply
redlemmy.com

Thank you for being sane, competent and willing. I wish more Americans were like you.

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lemm.ee

An outside perspective helps - it is very hard to have the cognizance and understanding to see through subtle propaganda like this when it has been ‘normal’ your entire life.

Growing up abroad I almost exclusively saw print and TV media coverage of murder, fraud, rape, etc trials whilst almost never seeing a real image of the accused - just pastel courtroom sketches and videos of vans like that swerving into prison yards flanked by journalists throwing their cameras up at the tinted windows, hoping their photo flash can punch through and get a blurry headshot.

Conversely in the US where a lazy/complicit media will routinely engage in access journalism in a quid pro quo with the state/wealthy/famous, where they are fed information directly from the source they are ostensibly ‘investigating’ who will demand to remain anonymous, whilst also feeding the press select information and context that build a narrative. “Journalist” gets a story for their deadline with minimal effort and can repeatedly go back to that source in the future as long as they don’t challenge the state/PR narrative. Rinse and repeat, collect paycheck and vie for that Pulitzer headpat.

Why do you think we keep having these ‘open secret’ and #MeToo falls from grace despite decades of predatory behavior? Real journalists get careers cancelled, death threats, or assassinated in a carbombing for exposing the Panama, Paradise, & Pandora Papers, we have far too much lazy reposting masquerading as actual journalism.

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stinkyreply
redlemmy.com

Stay anonymous, stay safe, and please keep doing what you do. We need to hear this.

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I appreciate the concern, but we all already live in the digital panopticon.

The basic setup of Bentham’s panopticon is this: there is a central tower surrounded by cells. In the central tower is the watchman. In the cells are prisoners – or workers, or children, depending on the use of the building. The tower shines bright light so that the watchman is able to see everyone in the cells. The people in the cells, however, aren’t able to see the watchman, and therefore have to assume that they are always under observation.

The Victorian idea was to ensure compliance of the incarcerated by actualizing the impression of omnipotent surveillance. They’ve built that into the framework of digital spaces by hijacking the ISPs at the source, creating a permanent man-in-the-middle.

The room… contains several racks of equipment, including [devices] designed to intercept and analyze Internet communications at very high speeds. It is fed by fiber optic lines from beam splitters installed in fiber optic trunks carrying Internet backbone traffic… [giving] access to all Internet traffic that passes through the building, and therefore "the capability to enable surveillance and analysis of internet content on a massive scale, including both overseas and purely domestic traffic."

‘Swimming in the noise’ was a decent way to stay unnoticed, but AI and ML processing throughput combined with metadata is carving that out rapidly.

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samus12345reply
lemm.ee

Absolutely pre trial prejudicial influence.

Considering most seem to understand that he's being targeted with extra punishment by the ruling class for daring to kill one of their own, this doesn't do them any favors in dismissing that notion. I know it looks like the Starship Troopers giant bug meme to me.

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It is just more evidence for the pile to show that police do not exist to protect people, but rather to protect capital.

It's not nonsense.

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[deleted]reply
lemmy.world

Who the fuck is going to assault the champion of the people?

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lemmy.ca

Dude caused a dip in US GDP, stop acting shocked authorities are making a show of it.

The second CEOs start considering moving to Canada or UK over the US, the economy is done. It's already a serious risk due to way more poor people with guns than most other countries.

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The second CEOs start considering moving to Canada or UK over the US, the economy is done.

Ronald Reagan really did a number on the American brain.

Those leeches need us far more than we need them.

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If CEOs leave then a new CEO will take their place in the company. CEOs are not special.

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Dude caused a dip in US GDP

That seems implausible. Do you have a source for that? or is that just exaggeration?

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I apologize in advance to Canada and the UK, but let them. Don’t let the door hit them on the way out.

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If every single CEO up and left, that would be, on the whole, the single greatest thing to happen for this country. I'd feel sorry for the rest of the world that would have to deal with them, but it would be a giant step foreword for us.

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