Sounds extremely fishy. Those robo-dogs are expensive, they are slow - too slow to really act as couriers, and this is supposed to be Moscow - A city in a country under rather strict tech embagos, where you can't get them at the next corner shop.
I can't tell too much from the picture but I believe that's a Chinese robot and China will ship to Russia from what I understand. And I've seen those as low as $1600 and anyone can order them online. It still sounds fishy maybe the cops want an excuse to get their own
Militarized police, criminal syndicates using robots that destroy evidence when caught, to smuggle drugs, I don't think this person knows what cyberpunk is
I see your communist plot to combat light pollution. The sky must be filled with lights from advertisements or else you wouldn't know about the products that we already advertise on your phone and in your dreams. Stay in line citizen.
I betcha its not too hard to put a faux skin on one of these to make it look like an actual animal, which from a distance would be potentially hard to tell apart from an real animal. As long as it's used in the middle of nowhere,
It would probably be great for send drugs over remote parts of the border.
I mean it's just matter of priority I suppose, if something is relatively cheap and effective there's no need to invest into 4k or higher quality cameras. Especially when you don't have the storage for a week of footage or few days that loop over each other. But that's just my assumption, if 4k becomes the norm and storage gets bigger and cheaper we might see good quality security footage.
Counterpoint: 4k camera modules are getting rapidly cheaper, it's standard in cell phones now.
Gyroscope modules used to be crazy expensive, then Nintendo ordered 400 million of them for the Wii.
Nice, didn't know that. Now just the storage but that's matter of time or maybe it already is. The biggest probably is getting all the cameras upgraded but that also just needs time I assume.
Yes, indeed. Hence the earlier, "HOW GET MONEY?" someone so eloquently asked in relation to this dead drop method. You could arrange your own dead drop for the dealer's payment I guess, or stuff the money in to the same tree. It's all a bit fraught, and requires you both to trust each other even more than a deal normally would. The system seems to be pretty flawed. Guess it works of you're happy to leave an indelible record of you transacting with this person and if you trust them to actually put the goods there rather than just take the money since you'll never see them and have no recourse.
This is a solved problem on darknet markets. They use crypto and have reviews/escrow like Ebay. The only difference is they mail you the drugs instead of leaving it somewhere.
Why, though? You send on paypal as friends and family. You dont get taxed on that kind of transfer and i doubt it is being audited.
There is a level of trust you have to assume between a drug dealer and the customer. You retaining customers is all done on reputation. If you try to cheat your customers, they will all go elsewhere. There is a lot of incentive for dealers to run their "business" well and keep customers happy.
Cash means you need to meet face to face. This is far more risky.
When i was younger and smoking weed, it was all face to face, meet someone somewhere and trade there. Or a car pulls up and you have a little chat and swap money for the bag. But this was dodgey. It was risky. It eneded up in arrests more often than you think.
Towards to end of my pot head days, it was all telegram to put orders in, delivered by royal mail via recorded delivery and money tranferred with an app as i mentioned above. This is more private than you think.
Although admittedly i never did this sort of transaction, everyone i know who was/is still smoking/vaping is doing it this way.
On balance it could be that the risks to your personal safety might outweigh the perceived increase in secrecy. To me I don't like the idea that I've left a record that can be questioned if I'm getting prosecuted, but you're right I haven't factored in the overall risks from the alternative.
100 what? USD? If so, I used to routinely buy around that amount back when I was a cokehead and I still did it by getting in the back of the car. Perhaps it's just different cultures. I can't even imagine myself picking drugs from a tree (?)
I meant what you are saying, I think I worded it poorly. Cheaper deals are done in relatively shady places where you could get caught by chance. Bigger deals are more secure using any number of methods.
There are just bad dealers too though, its like any other job.
fr not encouraging anything illegal, buuut. The robot dog should only be used if the drone needs a place to stop mid way from the check point because of battery limitations or weather, as like a mobile outpost/command center to prevent easily spot able routing from places. Having the robo dog do the entire trip is quite wasteful on resources.
Yeah but this was also advertising the service, a quadrocopter wouldn't do that as good. If anything I'm surprised they are just sacrificing the robo dog considering how expensive those are.
The city’s first robot police dog was leased in 2020 by Adams’ predecessor, former Mayor Bill de Blasio, but the city’s contract for the device was cut short after critics derided it as creepy and dystopian.
Adams said he won’t bow to anti-robot dog pressure.
Russian military has a pretty cool weapon. Armoured minitank packed with explosives that drives into buildings and then detonates. It is usually accompanied by a small camera air drone that provides visual info, on where to drive the minitank, or at least is there to show off the destruction.
That is a higher level of dystopia. But, self driving food delivery mini vehicle technology will become a tool of the resistance to the genocidal extermination of unneeded labour pool.
This is most likely a joke. It hasn't been confirmed if the powder is/ were drugs.
https://112.ua/en/po-moskvi-rozguluvav-robopes-narkokurer-48225
"After inspection, it was found that the packages the robot was carrying contained a powder resembling illegal substances."
Moscow Police: Oh, silly me. Did I say packages? I meant package—singular. 😏
What? Two packages?
One still? None left?
Can't have shit on mars when you are a postman.
Envelope named "bribe". Empty.
i mean, those robots are like $50k a piece minimum right? and they're not particularly fast. it wouldn't make sense to use them as drug mules
That doesn't look like a Spot but one of the cheaper copies.
Just some brief searching shows me you can get them for under $1000 these days. It might actually be cost-effective.
At that rate, you could use them as patrolling watch dogs too. Have one bot with the drugs, the others all just watch.
Okay, you can quit snorting that anthrax now
Sounds extremely fishy. Those robo-dogs are expensive, they are slow - too slow to really act as couriers, and this is supposed to be Moscow - A city in a country under rather strict tech embagos, where you can't get them at the next corner shop.
I can't tell too much from the picture but I believe that's a Chinese robot and China will ship to Russia from what I understand. And I've seen those as low as $1600 and anyone can order them online. It still sounds fishy maybe the cops want an excuse to get their own
yep china has several, my concern is the range on these are dogshit.
Lol
Not to mention the Russian police uniform doesn't look like that.
Depends
I stand corrected!
Chinese tech is not embargoed and, despite less cool videos, actually widely deployed.
Reminds me of this meme
That's hilarious and I hope you don't mind that I'm going to steal it to post.
This may be the coolest fucking thing ever
This is exactly the Cyberpunk we expected. Cyberpunk has never been shy about being a dystopia.
Practically the definition of the genre. It's not typically "punk" if it's a glistening utopia.
Using robots to do conduct black market trade under the nose of the police sounds extremely punk.
Who's a good boy?
going to post this to VCJ
Wait, there’s a VCJ on lemmy?
Yes. And there's a vegan lemmy (.vg)
Turns out, I’m already subbed to the .world instance.
Whats vcj?
it's a place for vegans to make low-effort humor
Oh, vegan circlejerk?
looking at these is disturbing me a little
It's true that the muffins look like chihuahuas and vice versa.
This is EXACTLY the type of thing I expected from a cyberpunk dystopia
Right? Like did the creator of this image think more policing is less dystopian?
Militarized police, criminal syndicates using robots that destroy evidence when caught, to smuggle drugs, I don't think this person knows what cyberpunk is
Nah, I'm kinda okay with that. Better than thought-crime surveillance Cyberpunk dystopia.
Why not both?
Why not skip the neon bright lights and just go straight to a full on 1984?
I see your communist plot to combat light pollution. The sky must be filled with lights from advertisements or else you wouldn't know about the products that we already advertise on your phone and in your dreams. Stay in line citizen.
I'm beyond the point where the casual anti-soviet jab strikes me as funny.
The only difference between Cyberpunk & our current dystopia is full-dive VR, the neon lights are optional.
Yeah or 1984 with neon lights and drugs robot dogs
Or what about drugs robot dogs on cyberdrugs?
The 3 industries that will always have the money and be on the forefront of innovation:
Something something big pharma....
Oh trust me... They would still have the money.
This would probably be cheaper to send over the border with drugs too.
I betcha its not too hard to put a faux skin on one of these to make it look like an actual animal, which from a distance would be potentially hard to tell apart from an real animal. As long as it's used in the middle of nowhere,
It would probably be great for send drugs over remote parts of the border.
Wouldn’t a drone be cheaper and easier?
Easier to see and you can shoot it down from a distance more easily too.
The ruskies should be extra nervous about drones these days too.
“Is drugs? Or about to blow a spire off the kremlin?
Im actually amazed that while we supposedly have robo dogs we still have photos so blurry that you cant see shit.
I mean it's just matter of priority I suppose, if something is relatively cheap and effective there's no need to invest into 4k or higher quality cameras. Especially when you don't have the storage for a week of footage or few days that loop over each other. But that's just my assumption, if 4k becomes the norm and storage gets bigger and cheaper we might see good quality security footage.
Counterpoint: 4k camera modules are getting rapidly cheaper, it's standard in cell phones now. Gyroscope modules used to be crazy expensive, then Nintendo ordered 400 million of them for the Wii.
Those are different gyroscopes. Big spinning disk != MEMS gyro.
Nice, didn't know that. Now just the storage but that's matter of time or maybe it already is. The biggest probably is getting all the cameras upgraded but that also just needs time I assume.
To be honest I'm more worried because of Moscow than any robot dog.
Remember to tip your police officer and you'll be fine.
Why?
Untraceable drug delivery? Sign me up
Trivially traceable. Just follow the dog (discretely).
Ugh, I hate those missions.
At least it's better than defend the dog missions.
Doggo delivers mana powder until he gets head pats.
Cyberpunk we wanted
That's awesome, I love drug dealing robo-dogs
Hi, is this robodog still available?
In this case the dystopia is the prohibition and storm troopers, not the robot dog.
Storm troopers you say?
This is why god invented automatic grenade launchers
Recently saw a comic about a 'shit shot Sally', characters wondering why they had to be concerned if she's a shit shot.
Grenade launcher.
That's odd.
I think most of the time they just use dead drops, it's much safer.
Courier sticks drugs to a tree, walks away, sends a geo location of a drop to a buyer. Done.
Druggie just has to geolocate it, never meet in person.
HOW GET MONEY?
Paypal? Venmo? Monzo? Or in other words, with great ease...
I'd be uneasy with electronically transferring funds for illicit drugs, cash seems wiser.
How does the dealer get the cash without potentially exposing their location?
Yes, indeed. Hence the earlier, "HOW GET MONEY?" someone so eloquently asked in relation to this dead drop method. You could arrange your own dead drop for the dealer's payment I guess, or stuff the money in to the same tree. It's all a bit fraught, and requires you both to trust each other even more than a deal normally would. The system seems to be pretty flawed. Guess it works of you're happy to leave an indelible record of you transacting with this person and if you trust them to actually put the goods there rather than just take the money since you'll never see them and have no recourse.
This is a solved problem on darknet markets. They use crypto and have reviews/escrow like Ebay. The only difference is they mail you the drugs instead of leaving it somewhere.
Why, though? You send on paypal as friends and family. You dont get taxed on that kind of transfer and i doubt it is being audited.
There is a level of trust you have to assume between a drug dealer and the customer. You retaining customers is all done on reputation. If you try to cheat your customers, they will all go elsewhere. There is a lot of incentive for dealers to run their "business" well and keep customers happy.
Cash means you need to meet face to face. This is far more risky. When i was younger and smoking weed, it was all face to face, meet someone somewhere and trade there. Or a car pulls up and you have a little chat and swap money for the bag. But this was dodgey. It was risky. It eneded up in arrests more often than you think.
Towards to end of my pot head days, it was all telegram to put orders in, delivered by royal mail via recorded delivery and money tranferred with an app as i mentioned above. This is more private than you think.
Although admittedly i never did this sort of transaction, everyone i know who was/is still smoking/vaping is doing it this way.
On balance it could be that the risks to your personal safety might outweigh the perceived increase in secrecy. To me I don't like the idea that I've left a record that can be questioned if I'm getting prosecuted, but you're right I haven't factored in the overall risks from the alternative.
For "other"
What happened to the good old days when you got into the back of a car with a shady guy?
Thats for like 100 or less. Or for really risky dealers.
100 what? USD? If so, I used to routinely buy around that amount back when I was a cokehead and I still did it by getting in the back of the car. Perhaps it's just different cultures. I can't even imagine myself picking drugs from a tree (?)
I meant what you are saying, I think I worded it poorly. Cheaper deals are done in relatively shady places where you could get caught by chance. Bigger deals are more secure using any number of methods.
There are just bad dealers too though, its like any other job.
It's hard for me to believe this strictly because A) those things are fucking expensive, and B) aren't they like ....hella fucking fast??
They are not that fast. At least none that I've seen. I'd say they go like 10mph tops.
Quadcopters would be more efficient financially and more reliable. Probably faster too.
fr not encouraging anything illegal, buuut. The robot dog should only be used if the drone needs a place to stop mid way from the check point because of battery limitations or weather, as like a mobile outpost/command center to prevent easily spot able routing from places. Having the robo dog do the entire trip is quite wasteful on resources.
This guy efficiently drug deals.
I was expecting this from quadcopters. I'd have thought they'd be more difficult to catch
Yeah but this was also advertising the service, a quadrocopter wouldn't do that as good. If anything I'm surprised they are just sacrificing the robo dog considering how expensive those are.
Once the cops find it, there's no stakeout-proof way to recover it.
Unless the robo dog doubled as a drone to make a quick getaway, it's just plainly an expensive walking mistake
The dog was a decoy
Bump, Ubu, bump. Good dog.
When can I get paid thousands of dollars to carry a USB drive 5 miles, assuming I manage to get away from a cybernetically enhanced Dolph Lundgren?
Robot Drug Delivery Dog is so much better than Robot NYPD Mass-Surveillance dog that I almost can't express how happy OP makes me.
https://apnews.com/article/robot-dog-nypd-61bd64c94360e30f110f65626cc1687c
Life finds a way.
OK that'll be a discrete $50 handshake please.... OK so just walk to that corner and wait. There will be a dog...
Where? I want to see! Although... that would require talking to police. Nevermind.
Based
Next dog will have a concealed robotic cargo pouch and poops out the drugs
Next dog will probably shoot or electrocute the cops.
Russian military has a pretty cool weapon. Armoured minitank packed with explosives that drives into buildings and then detonates. It is usually accompanied by a small camera air drone that provides visual info, on where to drive the minitank, or at least is there to show off the destruction.
That is a higher level of dystopia. But, self driving food delivery mini vehicle technology will become a tool of the resistance to the genocidal extermination of unneeded labour pool.
But production of drones takes about 18 years