Spyke
lemmy.ca

The stupid part is not that he said this

The stupid part is that a good percentage of a large powerful country like the United States allows and accepts a political leader like this to speak for them.

Turnip isn't the idiot

Everyone else is for listening to him and keeping him in a position of power

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TrickDacyreply
lemmy.world

Except the majority doesn't want this moron. Yes, though, I do agree with your sentiment generally

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gruereply
lemmy.world

The fact that anything more than a vanishingly-small minority wants him is an absolute catastrophe and an incredibly damning indictment of American society in and of itself. Trump's nonsensical babbling is literally beyond "schizophrenic homeless dude on the street corner with a 'the end is nigh' sign"-level gibberish.

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People keep singling America out here as if right wing fascism hasn't been on the rise everywhere.

It's not damning of American society it's damning of humanity in general.

When things get tough a large portion decides to dig their heels in the ground and act like nothings wrong at all.

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Geoblokereply
lemm.ee

Buckle up, here in Australia, every couple of years a political party has the bright idea of damming water in Australia's tropical north and pumping it across 1000km of desert to Australia's farmland regions

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huquadreply
lemmy.ml

Who's the bigger fool? The fool or the one who follows him?

  • Ben Kenobi
    • Huquad
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lemmy.ca

For someone in BC, hearing America talk about our water like this is kind of terrifying

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crabreply
lemm.ee

That will be believable if he doesn't win. The fact that it's cloee is absolutely nuts to an outsider.

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lemmy.world

It’s only close because of our broken electoral process that gives land more influence than citizens. He didn’t even win the popular vote for his first term.

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elbuchoreply
lemmy.world

Not sure how that's supposed to ease the anxiety of Canadians.

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lemmy.world

National polling has Kamala up by +6 at best. Seems like 44%+ of Americans those polled seem comfortable and supportive of Trump. The fact it is that close at a national level, with all Haitians eating cats rhetoric, still seems insane to an outsider.

Edit: Updated to appease those saying 44%+ of those polled who say they support Trump is not an accurate reflection of Americans at-large. For reference, Trump won 46.1% of the popular vote in 2016 and 46.8% of the popular vote in 2020.

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Rivenreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

It's not 44 percent of Americans. It's 44 percent of the people poled. I can guarantee that number is skewed because a ton of left leaning people wouldn't bother wasting their time not getting paid to answer some pole. I know my friends and I are in that boat.

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It’s 44% of all those people polled who are registered voters.

It seems insane to us “insiders” too.

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gruereply
lemmy.world

The point is, anything more than negligible is fucking nuts!

Even if it's 44% of just idiot luddite conservatives, that's still 44% of idiot luddite conservatives too many!

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Wait until you find out that 30-40% of Americans believe god magicked the universe into being as is less than 10k years ago and fossils are from noahs flood in which he saved 2 of every animal in a boat the size of texas.

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Don't pollsters account for this? There's a reason why polling still exists and is talked about, the final results do reflect reality to some degree.

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lemmy.ca

Hilary was polling at roughly the same numbers as close as two weeks before that election he won back in 2016, if I remember correctly. It was looking like a clean sweep for her, and it was anything but. So don't get comfortable yet.

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lemmy.world

Most polls are performed by calling landlines. The majority of people with landlines are elderly or own businesses.

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There is no way the pollsters don't know this and account for it

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He’s got 47% of the popular vote last election. Over 74 million Americans voted for him. That’s 74 million too much.

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Orbituaryreply
lemmy.world

The fact that it's close shows that there is a problem with our voting populace.

Rarely do more than 40% of eligible voters turn out for an election. On top of that, the Electoral College - our representative voting body - can cause the popular vote to be overturned in favor of the representative vote - Al Gore in 2000, Trump in 2016 are examples. Relative to this, in order to win, Democrats have to be polling at 6 to 9% above the Republicans to be a real contender.

The day a Republican loses via Electoral College but wins the popular vote is the day this will change. Frankly, though, it's almost impossible for that to happen due to the way the EC distributes votes to the less populated states.

Fuck our rigged system and fuck this orange baboon.

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There’s also the cheating.

Gerrymandering out the wazoo, purging voter rolls, closing polling stations, literally taking away a ballot box as a photo op, passing insane “election ‘integrity’ commission” laws that upend everything else - and that doesn’t account for voter intimidation and outright straight-up fraud that can happen.

All that stuff is easy to do when you’re already in power. And wrong.

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Actually without the electoral college there wouldn't have been a republican president in the last 32 years.

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They wouldn't be swing states if everyone could/did vote. Look at the typical voting percentage, it's very sad.

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Trump is a criminal, a fascist, a literal traitor twice over (Jan 6 + loyalty to Putin over America), and fucking senile. Anything less than 99% unfavorable is ridiculous!

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It's absolutely nuts to a lot of insiders here too. I can't imagine a worse candidate, yet about 1/3 of the country seems to think that the choice in this election is a no-brainer, but in the exact opposite way that you would expect. The war on education led us here.

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Our system has a vital flaw. The electoral college. It was a necessity at one point given the technology of the time it was adopted, but now it is a relic and needs to go away.

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lennybirdreply
lemmy.world

Yep. Never once has Trump exceeded >=50% of votes or even approval rating.

Don't you just love our slave era Electoral College...?

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Pyrreply
lemmy.ca

He still got 63 million votes in 2016 (46.1%) and 74 million in 2020 (46.8%). More people voted for trump even after that disaster of a presidency.

Even though he never got over 50%, 74 million is still way too much for anyone to be comfortable with. It clearly indicates that something is wrong with many Americans.

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lennybirdreply
lemmy.world

It clearly indicates that something is wrong with many Americans.

Sadly I think it indicates systemic failures and Americans are the effect and much less the cause.

What I mean is that a combination of:

  • Electoral college & Money in Politics
  • Diminishing education standards (e.g., critical-thinking skills, civics, US History)
  • "News" media-entertainment that legally spreads disinformation (combined with foreign operatives).

... All culminates in a society that is very easily duped. I talk to Trump supporters all the time and while sure many are simply greedy psychopaths... Many are also just "nice, but kinda dumb" in that they have no capacity to parse fact from fiction and so are easily-grifted targets for lies and choir-preaching (sometimes quite literally from Sunday church).

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Optionalreply
lemmy.world

Don’t forget microplastics in the brain.

I’m worried that’s actually going to turn out to be a thing.

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Oh for sure. No doubt does Lead exposure (firing ammunition elevates levels), boomer-era leaded gasoline (and modern aircraft), paint, etc. + Traumatic Brain Injuries (CTE) from football + Substance abuse —namely alcohol play a part. Microplastics may very well be the next thing...

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74 million is still way too much for anyone to be comfortable with. It clearly indicates that something is wrong with many Americans.

To put a finer point in it, even just one million is way too much! The fact that 22% of the total population is suffering some sort of mass delusion and is in cult-like thrall to a demented fascist is unfathomably catastrophic.

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He most definitely does not speak for us, but I share your pain that he has a following as large as it is. Years of unchecked indoctrination and the dismantling of the public schools and human nature giving is the authoritarian personality (which seems to be about 30% of people everywhere)

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ikiddreply
lemmy.world

Except there isn't even a way to get water from BC to LA. They'd be better off getting it from the Great Lakes, at least they wouldn't have to build a pipeline through thousands of miles of mountains.

He's a fucking idiot. Gravity confuses him.

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hobovisionreply
lemm.ee

I'm sorry, are you saying that a pipeline from the great lakes to Los Angeles would have to go through less mountains than from British Columbia?

* gestures vaguely at the entire mountain west *

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ikiddreply
lemmy.world

Huh. For some reason I thought you could go around the south end without hitting too much, but yah, it's probably easier to go down the central plateau.

Ah well, guess BC is fucked.

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Yeah you could probably find a path through New Mexico and Arizona that's not too mountainous, like along I-10.

But really where the US "needs" more water is where all the farms are. The cities don't use much in comparison. It's just a lot in a small area compared to the farms distributed in the big valleys.

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I think everyone from Columbus hunters to Gary gangsters will make it clear their ain’t trying that

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Not just an idiot - he’s demented as well! And let’s not forget he’s a sociopath, a rapist, a fraud, a colluder, a seditionist - oh so many things.

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lemmy.ca

Ontario here....

IDK what Trump is trying to say here, but I don't like it.

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AA5Breply
lemmy.world

That would be one huge faucet to take water from Ontario to Southern California …. Plus it would be tough getting around the Great Lakes

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The only thing that can stop us is a wall paid by Mexico.

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lemmy.world

This dipshit is the most accurate representative conservatives could come up with. He's been re-affirmed as their most accurate representative time and time again over the last decade.

This moron is who conservatives are, and they are proud of it. Remember this when you talk to conservatives in your daily life. They are as profoundly unintelligent as they are evil.

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Conservatives like him because he's racist.

That's it. It doesn't matter.to them if he doesn't know how rain works. They don't care if he couldn't tell you how hurricanes travel.

All they care about is that he hates immigrants.

That's it.

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Now, now. To his rich backers, it's not the racism so much as maintaining the status quo of them not getting taxed.

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he's not the most 'accurate'. He can just get people to agree with him. He says everything with 110% confidence. The thing is, he always needs an enemy so people don't realize he's an idiot. Anything pointing out hes not logical is "what the liberals want you to think". He gets people against the Immigrants, the Haitians, etc.

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lemmy.ca

Imagine the intelligence of the people who believe in him. Then realize that's a large portion of the voting population.

Last step: cry.

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Think about the intelligence of the average person. Half of all people are as dumb or dumber. On second thought, don't think about it. The world has enough eugenicists.

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That he even has a good chance in hell of winning shows how far gone this country is.

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He is damn lucky he's rich, because a poor person this stupid would have been dead a long time ago.

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lemmy.ca

We really need to mark if Trump memes are real or made up. I hadn't heard that he said this, but I can totally believe it. I just don't have time to fact check every meme to know if I should be laughing or terrified that there's a potential or former leader who believes stuff like this.

Granted, both options are valid with Trump.

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Oh, he's making a metaphor.

OK it takes a day to open the dams and for water to travel.

Wait, the faucet is as big as that wall? He's talking about an actual faucet.

I'm out.

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lemmy.ca

I kept scrolling in Lemmy, saw a post in politics talking about it, but thanks. I can't say I'm surprised, but I'm amazed that people are willing to vote for someone so obviously stupid. I understand there's a certain element of anti-intellectualism, but this is gradeschool knowledge we're talking about.

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The depths of his stupidity and the continual display of his complete lack of knowledge or curiosity about how anything works or ever could work makes me so irritated with his immovable, enabling moronic "base".

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lemmy.world

whenever he talks nonsense like this I think it's because someone on his staff tried to explain something as they would to a toddler and he was barely listening so he repeats 5% of the words that grabbed his attention and mad libs the rest.

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honestly not that distinguishable from his speeches

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lemm.ee

So you're telling me:

There's a giant pipe that runs all the way from Canada to Los Angeles, with a massive valve that takes a day to turn. Its current configuration is set to dump all of that water into the Pacific. To solve the water crisis we merely need to spend a day to turn this massive valve, the size of that building behind you, the other way so that the water goes to Los Angeles instead?

Truly very stable genius stuff here.

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lemm.ee

Hes talking about the mile wide Columbia river, which meanders through Canada, Washington and Northern Oregon. It's basically on the border of Washington and Oregon. At no point does it even get close to touching California, much less LA, which is in southern California.

To do this would be one the most gigantic and intense infrastructure projects our country has ever undertaken, which would take decade's at an unimaginable cost. Not to mention the drastic shift in the ecosystem of 3 states as that river is "drained" south instead of to the ocean.

He lists this as "a big valve you just turn." Absolute moron.

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He's got to be the most extreme example of Dunning-Kruger effect out there.

Thinks he's a certified genius, meanwhile all his handlers have to break down concepts for him in such simplistic terms, he ends up literally thinking injecting bleach or putting powerful UV light inside the body are the solutions to COVID, or raking a forest is an actual solution to preventing widespread wildfires.

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He lists this as “a big valve you just turn.”

Even stupider than that he calls it a fucking faucet.

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Optionalreply
lemmy.world

S’okay - if he says it’s going to happen, you can pretty much bet it won’t happen

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lemmy.ca

I think that's also pretty much universally true with all our politicians

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You give him way too much credit. I doubt he even knows the Columbia River exists. He just says random shit.

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lemmy.cafe

He’s a child playing pretend. Take this quote and imagine it’s from a 10 year old kid that then goes on to explain how their favorite superhero can breathe in space.

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loutrreply
sh.itjust.works

Like he said, he hasn't changed much since he was 5. But it's not entirely on him: when my daughter says something like that, I play along for a bit but afterwards I explain to her why it is impossible. When you're constantly surrounded by sycophants, there's no one to call your bullshit out and soon you're convinced you're the smartest person alive.

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Oh absolutely! He’s a perfect example of what a person becomes when they have never had to deal with the consequences of their actions.

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So I guess he saw a picture of the decoration in the Laurentians and thought it was an actual one?

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Is it just me being bad in English or did you other also weren't able to understand what the fuck he tried to say there?

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See? Even this cow has a better grasp of the English language than trump. "Cows_are_underrated" don't think I didn't see through your pro-bovine propaganda.

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DokPsyreply
lemmy.world

Basically, he's talking about rerouting the water coming from the Rockies that go into the Pacific and moving it into the drought ridden bits of California.... I think.

He's doing this with the phrasing you'd use to explain how the water cycle works to a toddler, mind you. So, if that's how he's trying to explain it to adults, that would suggest it's the only way he can understand it.

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We don't. I'm giving it the best possible interpretation and even then, it makes him seem like severely mentally stunted

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lemmy.world

I wonder if he's thinking about that diversion in Chicago that connects the great lakes to the Mississippi and thinks all rivers work that way.

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ChicoSuavereply
lemmy.world

Most of Trump's brain is a neuron firing based on a thing he saw long ago that might be related to the topic in some way. The rest of the conversation is backfill to connect those dots to whatever the main topic is.

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lemmy.ca

A single neuron.... Are you sure? That seems like a lot given what we've seen and heard from him.

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To be fair, the adderall and double dose of ephedrine is doing some of the work there.

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Im pretty sure it’s a lot more straightforward than that. There are already pipelines bringing water from the mountains down to Southern California. If there’s a lot of excess water in mountains farther north, how different can that be?

— someone with no concept of the distances, changes in elevation, complexity of engineering, ridiculous cost, impact on environment, etc

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ALQ
lemmy.world

I honestly can't tell when things like this are actual quotes from him or just people making fun of him. It's absurd that he has so much power.

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The part that got me was at the end he says something like "well anyways, you'll have water and also illegal immigrants won't kill your family".

Great segue that. Masterful oration. That must be "the weave" that he keeps talking about. The thing where everything comes together "perfectly". 🙄 /s

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He only has power because people blindly obey him. If they treated him like they treat anyone else, he'd just be some backwards talking schmuck.

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feddit.uk

The Faucet.

Coming Fall 2026.

Directed by Roland Emmerich.

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lemmy.world

Seems like all the competent people went to finance and justifying war think tanks, and we are left with these type of clowns for politics

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I don’t know, but I think anyone who cares about progressive ideals should try to make it advantageous for amoral intelligent people to favor those ideals.

There’s no such thing as doing anything for altruistic or communal prospects just for the sake of it, nothing is turning back that clock on reaping the benefits of capitalism, and we can only work with what we have now.

I think ultimately everyone wants self-preservation, where family and community may be an extension of the self, that’s a good starting point. Things are super depressing now to say the least, which is why people who believe in progressive ideals need to hold on even harder.

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Wrenchreply
lemmy.world

Because they themselves are idiots. Either because they hear what he says and believe it, or because they only consume the propaganda that omits this word vomit entirely.

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AA5Breply
lemmy.world

It’s got to be the latter. While I’m lucky that I don’t encounter people who worship at the altar of the orange weirdo, I’ve been wanting to ask them “have you ever listened to one of his speeches?” I don’t understand how you could listen to him and still support him, regardless of your political leaning

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Yeah. Seems like listening to speeches and debates in their entirety, or a basic understanding of past actions, should be a prerequisite for anyone to hold a strong opinion for or against either side. But we know that's not the case for the vast majority of people who hold very strong political opinions. And they're also reliable voters.

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lemmy.world

I still don't understand how we got here. My mom is a Botanist by education, with a graduate degree from a respected university. She lives in a small community right in the center or some of the most extreme wildfire risk in the country.

She brought up one day that if only her Governor would make sure the forests were raked up, the wildfires wouldn't be a problem.

It's so baffling.

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Wow.

She's not a fire fighter, so I can kind of understand her thinking that's even remotely plausible or effective.

But as a botanist, she should absolutely know that the undergrowth needs that decaying leaf litter to support the complex ecosystem that keeps the soil fertile.

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They don’t believe “the liberal interpretation” of what he says. They “know” what he “means”.

It’s easier to understand if you have any experience around batshit evangelicals. A lot of Americans do, sadly.

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Donald 'Dunning-Kruger' Trump. The fact that he says such stupid, incoherent gibberish and doesn't really hear how idiotic he sounds is embarrassing.

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lemm.ee

This does make me wonder how expensive it'd be to set up a trans continental irrigation system, basically just moving surplus water in places like the southeast or northwest to drought locations like in california or the southwest to take the pressure off of local water resources.

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lemmy.world

Trans? TRANS? Uh no thanks sweetie, you can keep your woke liberal water.

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I’m so sick of this crap. I can’t even drive my TransAm any more. I’m gonna change the name on it to ManAm soon so sissies don’t complement me on my wokeness. Yuck.

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lemmy.world

As soon as the water has to travel just a little bit uphill, the continuous energy needed makes it unfeasable.

And that's not even taking leakage into account.

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It's pretty much impossible. Houston gets more rain than Seattle most years, but it's nearly impossible to pump that water up 500ft and 500 miles west to ranches in Texas. A pipeline from the Great Lakes or South East would have to pump water through the Rockies. They can't even build pil and gas pipelines to connect the West Coast to the rest of country, which is worth infinitly more per gallon than water.

On top of that, we have has abysmal rainfall this summer along the Great Lakes. I live on a river that flows into Lake Erie's western basin and i have never seen the river this low. There are stretches of the rover where i can walk bank to bank without getting my feet wet right now.

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Nah, don't give him, or his voters that credit. Motherfucker has been this dumb his whole life.

"Donald Trump was the dumbest goddam student I ever had." - William T. Kelly, University of Pennsylvania, Wharton

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Haha..what?

I can’t believe Biden was tapped out but this guy is still talking.

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feddit.org

That's easy. The hard part is to justify why you needed to permanently flood LA to make a point.

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I actually see nothing wrong with that part. From my experience in LA, the flood will quickly be rebranded as a "swim-up bar" and real estate costs will double. And it'll still be less humid and have a more diverse landscape than where I live in Texas...

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Florida just got a freaking shit ton of water from the hurricane.

Why don't they just pump it from there?

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Has he tried siphoning American water from the ocean? It's much closer and there's lots of it. Could even bottle it directly at the source and slap his logo on it.

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bad_newsreply
lemmy.billiam.net

I feel like he used to seem crazy, but it was like a Tik Tok trend you don't get, but with racism, and there's an audience for it, but ever since he got on that Hannibal Lecter thing... I think NOW it's just crazy

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Racist, but everyone is just making fun of it. "They're rapists" struck a chord and fueled whole news cycles where the pearl clutching only spread the word. Eating the dogs and cats is a Tik Tok song meme everyone is laughing at them about because it's so absurd and dumb. Granted it's not been great for the residents of Springfield, but it's a "Kamablah"-style rhetorical whiff I can't see 2016 Trump making.

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