All of them be trying to charge us to be alive. If my landlord could come up with a good enough reason to charge me to breathe, he’d put it on the invoice.
Yeah this is strange. People need to stop vilifying sex work. If the person is doing it willingly, they're not hurting anyone, and they enjoy doing it, what's the problem?
There's a spectrum going from someone just posting stuff and getting paid to shameless exploitation of vulnerable people through parasocial relationships. The latter can be very lucrative.
They are all enabling drug cartels, so no, none of them are good. We can't go around and say companies if not by law are at least morally responsible for child labour and forced labour camps in their supply chain and at the same time ignore that every fucking dealer gets their shit from sources that do the very same thing. There might be exceptions for some drugs, I'm not that deep into it, but in general there is no moral way to sell illegal drugs.
exploiting people for money, making weird/borderline illegal ads/promos, spaming/botting popular social media services with self promos or just being toxic to other people - why do you think drug dealers are bad people tho? in most cases they are just addicts tryna sell drugs so they can buy more drugs to feed their addiction, most of them are not bad people, they just need help
My dude our existence as we know it is wholly dependent on this capitalist system, which is built on exploitation, from top to bottom. Save your judgement for the bourgeoisie enforcing it, not the people just trying to survive in it.
so it's ok to do bad things if the capitalist system is telling you to? the only bad people are the ones at the top that enforce the system? and not the people who keep the system alive by obeying? doing something bad and then blaming the capitalist system for it is just playing the victim and it's a ridiculous argument
wdym i am "singling out" - the original comment asked why onlyfans creators are considered as bad people by the OP and i explained why they have a bad reputation online, you are going out of your way to blame the capitalist system for these creator's actions, and now you are just insulting me just because i provided a list of reasons why onlyfans creators get a bad rep online and why they are considered to be bad people
I gotta be honest, my bf or I still make sure the cart goes back every time we shop, but I increasingly question whether I should bother. These grocery stores keep raising their prices well above inflation so they can pocket the rest and brag to shareholders about it, at the cost of people who actually shop there.
It's tempting to say that if they're going to play that game, they get no courtesy from me as a customer and can hire more cart collectors. It's miniscule on an individual level, but it is unpaid labor.
There's the argument that unreturned carts mostly inconvenience other customers, but honestly if the store is exploiting both customers' goodwill and wallets, I think it's fine to make the experience at that store just that little bit worse; maybe that last little push will encourage people to shop elsewhere (where it's an option of course, i.e. not a small town).
I don't feel this urge at stores like H Mart even though they have so many fewer return stalls and it's often a longer walk to do so.
I guess this is kind of an antithesis to Shopping Cart Theory I've been developing in my head over the past little while. It's conditional on the store itself being overtly greedy, but I think there might be something to it.
Nah this is just trying to rationalize being a dick to your fellow human being who's trying to park. The employee making min wage isn't caring that the carts are further, it just means they can waste more time per trip.
If you actually wanted to do something against the corporation, you shop somewhere else.
Just like the shopping cart theory itself, this is mostly just a thought experiment at this point in time.
The point of a protestation is to make it hard for others to ignore, and make it clear what the end condition is. I don't plan on just starting to do this as an individual because it would have no impact; I still make sure my own carts get returned personally.
The point stands that our goodwill is frequently exploited for profit, often under the pretense that it's just basic human decency.
I see your point but two out the last three cars I've had both got a huge dent in their right front fender because someone didn't put the cart up and it rolled down a slight grade into them.
You should check with the laws in your state (or your insurance agency, if you have a low enough deductible.).
Just because the grocery store puts up a sign that they are not responsible for damages doesn't mean they aren't. They have a first amendment right to lie, and a game-theory reason to do so.
Honestly I don't get the OF hate in general. We all have watched porn and we probably liked at least some of what we have seen. What is wrong about earning a living with producing what other people want and like? And as I don't think, we argue about people consuming porn but about paying for it, what the fuck is wrong with paying the content creator? Why do we prefer paying agencies with ad revenue while the agency effectively scams their talent? Why no ads but cash? Why agency and not talent?
Why do you expect to be reward for being a good person? That’s just the baseline everyone should meet.
You will never get financially ahead of everyone else by being a good worker bee. Sorry your parents and teachers lied to you. Doing well in school and getting a degree is not a pathway to riches. The vast majority of people who went from rags to riches went off the beaten path and took a massive risk.
Totally agree, although I would say "... the vast majority of people who went from rags to riches were self-obsessed assholes at at least one part of their life".
Exactly. You get what you give. You give the bare minimum to society, and society will give it right back. You want more, give more. Go help your community. Take out your elderly neighbor's recycling. Volunteer at your local shelters/soup kitchens. Attend some local events. Sit in on city council meetings. When I moved out of my small town a couple years ago, I learned that real life is a lot like online forums. You have to lurk before you can post. Learn the language, the local etiquette and taboos. Watch the people in your neighborhood, their interactions. Blend into the background, and observe. Talk little, hear and see much.
You want more, give more. Go help your community. Take out your elderly neighbor’s recycling. Volunteer at your local shelters/soup kitchens. Attend some local events. Sit in on city council meetings.
DISCLAIMER: No, i dont think that OF people are bad (although the sex industry is shady as fuck, but that doesnt have anything to do with the people there in most cases), i just stole this from xitter because i thought it was funny due to the drug part
I mean, the rich drug dealers you know are rich from dealing, aren't the ones to have that lifestyle long term.
The sensible and rich drug dealers are the ones you wouldn't know about. Quite a few of them are landlords here in the UK (I can't provide numbers, just a what I know thing so I won't be offended if no one believes it - these are just my ramblings, officer).
Basically just sensible ways to turn black market income into seemingly legitimate income, through either self-employed businesses or other means.
They'll have seemingly regular jobs, and will do their best to appear legitimate to not raise any red flags. You'd be very surprised at who the most successful drug dealers are, however chances are you'll never know as well.
I suppose you could start a man-drawn carriage business and pay the men with sex. You might have to lobby to get a few laws changed first. Or you could have the men run on hamster wheels connected to turbine generators…
There are even niches within foot fetish porn. Like people with a fetish often have a very specific kind of fetish. Foot fetishists aren’t just into feet but for example also want to see the feet in specific color nylon socks or have a humiliation fetish. And most of the niches are probably underserved.
Remember the girl that said shit like "Mm ice cream so good" and "gang gang" on TikTok? She got hella rich. I remember she reported a number, I don't ever what it was, but she made it in a week and it was more than my annual salary.
I’ve got serious tech skills I could be using for evil.
Every day I wake up destitute, I think,
Why not. Why shouldn’t I create a fully automated ecommerce site dropshipping AI trash to Etsy & elsewhere? Hell, why not start a cult? I can at least source cheap FlavorAid.
"You can GET RICH QUICK! with this ONE NEAT TRICK! if you're willing to coughdo a huge bit of gray market work in a high risk industry for a very long timecough and then YOU'LL BE SET FOR cougha very shortcough LIFE!"
Friendly reminder that Drug Dealers Mostly Live With Their Moms and the average camgirls don't do much better. This is a high risk, low reward industry operating in an informal economy with no labor protections that needs an enormous marketing budget in order to keep people engaged with it.
Selection bias. As if drug dealers never go to prison, or die early...
I'd say the same applies to only fans models. Well, not the prison or early grave part. Most successful models are a tiny fraction of people who traded sex on tape for the equivalent of minimum wages.
what a weird conflation. first of all there shouldn't be "girls" on only fans. second of all sex work is legitimate work. you're not a good person, you just wrongly think you're better than people. fuck you.
Dr*g?
So, I was at my pharmacy today getting my prescription dr*gs, and afterward stopped by my dealer to pick up some fucking heroin.
I can't believe you swore on the fucking internet. Unbelievable!
Think of the fucking children!
I am, but all I can think is that the little bastards need some fucking culture!
Medication
How dare you even think of dr*g dealing? It's human trafficking!!
My guy had some junkie show up that hadn't paid after multiple warnings. I watched as they dr*g him out of the living room...
You should be mad at billionaires and landlords, not other working people.
Were grouping landlords with billionaires? Nah, billionaires have their own special VIP area in hell
Landlords are like ticket scalpers. Buy up a scarce resource, provide no real value, and overcharge.
The real people you should be hating on are the ones that mindlessly inflate prices. Not just anyone buying property
Landlords inflate prices of property.
Not all of em
Explain how they make money buying property?
Honestly, I don't know. I'm probably wrong
Demand go up. Price go up.
All of them be trying to charge us to be alive. If my landlord could come up with a good enough reason to charge me to breathe, he’d put it on the invoice.
They're both part of the owning class. The only difference is degrees
Why "dr*g"? That's a wierd bit of censorship - making a joke about drugs and sex workers and feeling the need to censor the word drug? I don't get it?
They don’t want their lemmy post demonetised.
Demonetization s*cks. I was just about to get a rescue yacht for my staff's yacht and then boom my most profitable lemmy comments got demonetized.
They're afraid of the drag dealers' wrath
Probably a screenshot off TikTok, where you saying "die" might upset Vinie the Pooh, so they censor the living fu*k of it.
Are you implying people on OnlyFans aren't good people?!
Yeah this is strange. People need to stop vilifying sex work. If the person is doing it willingly, they're not hurting anyone, and they enjoy doing it, what's the problem?
There's a spectrum going from someone just posting stuff and getting paid to shameless exploitation of vulnerable people through parasocial relationships. The latter can be very lucrative.
Someone identifying with Homelander would. That's the real meme here.
The majority of drug dealers and only fans models are poor like the rest of us.
Yeah, this guy doesn't know enough drug dealers and only fans models.
You can sell pictures of your gaping asshole and still be a good person.
It's just a matter of perspective.
Beats selling spaghetti code, which is what I do.
Just save your meatballs for OF I guess.
People are into that right?
Hmm yes drag dealer.
That makes more sense. I thought it was dryg dealer.
Droog dealer. They sell eggywegs.
Draug - undead dealer
"How many Trixie Mattels can I get for this RuPaul?"
Im assuming most drug dealers aren't good people.
They are all enabling drug cartels, so no, none of them are good. We can't go around and say companies if not by law are at least morally responsible for child labour and forced labour camps in their supply chain and at the same time ignore that every fucking dealer gets their shit from sources that do the very same thing. There might be exceptions for some drugs, I'm not that deep into it, but in general there is no moral way to sell illegal drugs.
Most drug dealers are just your friendly neighborhood guy with a weed farm in his basement
It's different if you control the whole supply chain obviously, that's one of the exceptions I talked about
By that logic, do you think anybody that works at walmart/amazon/any-company-that-has-shady-suppliers can't be good?
You know the dealer, the dealer is a man
With the love grass in his hand
Oh but the pusher is a monster
Good God, he’s not a natural man
The dealer for a nickel
Goin to sell you lots of sweet dreams.
Ah...but the pusher will ruin your body;
Lord he'll leave your mind to scream.
Why?
♫ It's true that all the men you knew were dealers who said they were through
being dealers every time you gave them shelter
I know that kind of man, it's hard to hold the hand of anyone
who's reaching for the sky just to surrender ♪
(originally by Leonard Cohen, of course)
That doesn't fit the tempo scheme of Hallelujah. Leonard Cohen wrote 900 verses of Hallelujah, and nothing else.
/s
You can say drugs. It's the internet.
Why do you think OF girls are bad people?
Jealousy.
exploiting people for money, making weird/borderline illegal ads/promos, spaming/botting popular social media services with self promos or just being toxic to other people - why do you think drug dealers are bad people tho? in most cases they are just addicts tryna sell drugs so they can buy more drugs to feed their addiction, most of them are not bad people, they just need help
My dude our existence as we know it is wholly dependent on this capitalist system, which is built on exploitation, from top to bottom. Save your judgement for the bourgeoisie enforcing it, not the people just trying to survive in it.
so it's ok to do bad things if the capitalist system is telling you to? the only bad people are the ones at the top that enforce the system? and not the people who keep the system alive by obeying? doing something bad and then blaming the capitalist system for it is just playing the victim and it's a ridiculous argument
You're entitled to your judgemental opinions, but singling out OF creators reeks of big incel energy.
wdym i am "singling out" - the original comment asked why onlyfans creators are considered as bad people by the OP and i explained why they have a bad reputation online, you are going out of your way to blame the capitalist system for these creator's actions, and now you are just insulting me just because i provided a list of reasons why onlyfans creators get a bad rep online and why they are considered to be bad people
Do you think sex workers aren't good people somehow?
I think most of them aren't getting any where close to what these OF influencers are getting for just showing feet.
More like, "these are easy jobs for fat stacks". Each is easy to break into, the fat stacks part takes real work.
Sure but that's not what the meme implies.
I don't think you underhand what this is saying. Hint: it's not that.
Who cares if they are Drug dealer or on Only Fans. Do they put the cart back at the store?
I gotta be honest, my bf or I still make sure the cart goes back every time we shop, but I increasingly question whether I should bother. These grocery stores keep raising their prices well above inflation so they can pocket the rest and brag to shareholders about it, at the cost of people who actually shop there.
It's tempting to say that if they're going to play that game, they get no courtesy from me as a customer and can hire more cart collectors. It's miniscule on an individual level, but it is unpaid labor.
There's the argument that unreturned carts mostly inconvenience other customers, but honestly if the store is exploiting both customers' goodwill and wallets, I think it's fine to make the experience at that store just that little bit worse; maybe that last little push will encourage people to shop elsewhere (where it's an option of course, i.e. not a small town).
I don't feel this urge at stores like H Mart even though they have so many fewer return stalls and it's often a longer walk to do so.
I guess this is kind of an antithesis to Shopping Cart Theory I've been developing in my head over the past little while. It's conditional on the store itself being overtly greedy, but I think there might be something to it.
Nah this is just trying to rationalize being a dick to your fellow human being who's trying to park. The employee making min wage isn't caring that the carts are further, it just means they can waste more time per trip.
If you actually wanted to do something against the corporation, you shop somewhere else.
Just like the shopping cart theory itself, this is mostly just a thought experiment at this point in time.
The point of a protestation is to make it hard for others to ignore, and make it clear what the end condition is. I don't plan on just starting to do this as an individual because it would have no impact; I still make sure my own carts get returned personally.
The point stands that our goodwill is frequently exploited for profit, often under the pretense that it's just basic human decency.
I see your point but two out the last three cars I've had both got a huge dent in their right front fender because someone didn't put the cart up and it rolled down a slight grade into them.
You should check with the laws in your state (or your insurance agency, if you have a low enough deductible.).
Just because the grocery store puts up a sign that they are not responsible for damages doesn't mean they aren't. They have a first amendment right to lie, and a game-theory reason to do so.
No witness, no camera, and no liability.
It's funny because they compared themself to a picture of one of the worst people imagined to argue they're a good person
I find people paying for OF way weirder than people doing OF
Honestly I don't get the OF hate in general. We all have watched porn and we probably liked at least some of what we have seen. What is wrong about earning a living with producing what other people want and like? And as I don't think, we argue about people consuming porn but about paying for it, what the fuck is wrong with paying the content creator? Why do we prefer paying agencies with ad revenue while the agency effectively scams their talent? Why no ads but cash? Why agency and not talent?
What’s weird about buying OF content? Not everyone subscribes for the parasocial interactions.
Why do you expect to be reward for being a good person? That’s just the baseline everyone should meet.
You will never get financially ahead of everyone else by being a good worker bee. Sorry your parents and teachers lied to you. Doing well in school and getting a degree is not a pathway to riches. The vast majority of people who went from rags to riches went off the beaten path and took a massive risk.
Also sex work doesn’t make someone a bad person.
Totally agree, although I would say "... the vast majority of people who went from rags to riches were self-obsessed assholes at at least one part of their life".
Exactly. You get what you give. You give the bare minimum to society, and society will give it right back. You want more, give more. Go help your community. Take out your elderly neighbor's recycling. Volunteer at your local shelters/soup kitchens. Attend some local events. Sit in on city council meetings. When I moved out of my small town a couple years ago, I learned that real life is a lot like online forums. You have to lurk before you can post. Learn the language, the local etiquette and taboos. Watch the people in your neighborhood, their interactions. Blend into the background, and observe. Talk little, hear and see much.
None of this shit makes you money.
Beautifully put.
Sex work puts someone one step closer to human trafficking.
I don't judge them for the sex work. I judge how they are at risk that costs more than just their own happiness.
Drug deals and OF girls can be good people, but someone who judges people based on the nature of their labor can't.
What if they work for a PMC? I'd probably judge that. Or worse, what if they're a CEO?
WTYP. The most famous CEOs don't work. They just exploit the work of others.
”I'm a good person guys"
I think it should have said "do the right thing" as in normal job, taxes, etc. doesn't make you a "good person" technically
Drug dealers and OF girls aren't the ones making your life miserable Greg.
I hope the point is that the people who set the social norms (which make you think OF girls and Drug Dealers are bad people) are the real enemy.
What's a good person?
What is a woman?
A miserable little pile of secrets!
But enough talk, have at you!
Someone who covers their drink when you enter the room.
damn bro
What is love?
Baby don't hurt me
Don't hurt me.
Alright, alright, no more guys
No more
What is a drag dealer?
A pimp with a specific brand identity?
Certainly not someone who keeps buying new cars
Not the person I'm replying to, that's for sure.
DISCLAIMER: No, i dont think that OF people are bad (although the sex industry is shady as fuck, but that doesnt have anything to do with the people there in most cases), i just stole this from xitter because i thought it was funny due to the drug part
So you're a good person but people doing OF aren't?? Just start an OF and get over yourself.
Big incel energy.
I mean, the rich drug dealers you know are rich from dealing, aren't the ones to have that lifestyle long term.
The sensible and rich drug dealers are the ones you wouldn't know about. Quite a few of them are landlords here in the UK (I can't provide numbers, just a what I know thing so I won't be offended if no one believes it - these are just my ramblings, officer).
Basically just sensible ways to turn black market income into seemingly legitimate income, through either self-employed businesses or other means.
They'll have seemingly regular jobs, and will do their best to appear legitimate to not raise any red flags. You'd be very surprised at who the most successful drug dealers are, however chances are you'll never know as well.
I've known some folk. From weed to cocaine.
They absolutely do this.
Independent contracting, roofing, concrete, etc. Oh. And farmers. Lots and lots of farmers. Easy to wash money.
They have the best/shadiest lawyers who absolutely know what's going on. They are paid very well.
They live fairly modestly. Dress smart, not flashy. They don't show off or draw attention.
They're smart.
They don't fuck around.
drog dealer
You should just become a drug dealing Onlyfans girl then. 🤷
Heisenberg in the day, OF femboy at night 😈
Don't let your memes be dreams.
I can see how an RV, lab equipment, and a helper might help, but you don't actually need any of those to do OF.
But if you have an RV, lab equipment and a helper, you could be a travelling drug dealer with an onlyfans.
what about a drug dealer/only fans mashup? like they deliver or manufactured drugs naked on camera? double dip?
I deal drugs for a cheap price but I deliver them in my ass. They have to be retrieved on camera for my OF.
drag dealers
Exactly what I read it as on my rehearsal read...
Feet pics on OF does extremely well. Gender doesn't even matter just make them look popping.
Source: I'm making an extra $3k/m on top of my 9-5.
If male hornyness could be bottled as energy we'd never need another drop of oil.
We have the technology men just need to put on the cum collecting chastity belts I sent them -_-
I suppose you could start a man-drawn carriage business and pay the men with sex. You might have to lobby to get a few laws changed first. Or you could have the men run on hamster wheels connected to turbine generators…
I have stout, wide, "Fred Flintstone" feet. Is there a market for my people?
Tell me more. How do I make my feet look popping? How do I even get started? I feel I could live with having slutty feet that give me some income
Surely this kind of market is oversaturated?
You'd think so but the foot fetishists are in the same kind of space as furry porn commissioners.
There are even niches within foot fetish porn. Like people with a fetish often have a very specific kind of fetish. Foot fetishists aren’t just into feet but for example also want to see the feet in specific color nylon socks or have a humiliation fetish. And most of the niches are probably underserved.
I guess so, but in my head every body has feet so the supply has to be high, compared to having the skill to draw furry stuff
Bruh 😎 just steal everything 😜 every thing that isn't nailed 👇 down
Remember the girl that said shit like "Mm ice cream so good" and "gang gang" on TikTok? She got hella rich. I remember she reported a number, I don't ever what it was, but she made it in a week and it was more than my annual salary.
Link for those not using TikTok
(at the end it features that vid)
Why a 4th car? Most people can barely drive one...
If someone blows all four of your tires in one car, you can use the spare plus the spare from each of the other three.
putting Drug Dealers in comparison with OF girls is kinda bad
They are both selling a distortion of the mind
I’ve got serious tech skills I could be using for evil.
Every day I wake up destitute, I think,
Why not. Why shouldn’t I create a fully automated ecommerce site dropshipping AI trash to Etsy & elsewhere? Hell, why not start a cult? I can at least source cheap FlavorAid.
turning on the big Consent Manufacturing Machine
"You can GET RICH QUICK! with this ONE NEAT TRICK! if you're willing to coughdo a huge bit of gray market work in a high risk industry for a very long timecough and then YOU'LL BE SET FOR cougha very shortcough LIFE!"
Friendly reminder that Drug Dealers Mostly Live With Their Moms and the average camgirls don't do much better. This is a high risk, low reward industry operating in an informal economy with no labor protections that needs an enormous marketing budget in order to keep people engaged with it.
Drag's not illegal yet, selling it is still a legitimate career path.
Remember kids finance isn't owning
In what the fuck kind of fucked up shitty social media do you have to censor "drug"? Is this a goddamn Mormon meme or some shit?
Let's not idolize ourselves as homewrecker
What's your job?
It's hard enough to just give them away lol
Pictures of any dick is not in demand. I have yet to hear a bisexual person say they have a preference for men it's always women preference.
Hi.
I'm sure they still need to hustle to make that bank.
Forgot YouTube/twitch creators. Looking at you Mr. Beast, ya rich bastard.
Selection bias. As if drug dealers never go to prison, or die early...
I'd say the same applies to only fans models. Well, not the prison or early grave part. Most successful models are a tiny fraction of people who traded sex on tape for the equivalent of minimum wages.
Same me, thought it's rather nothing bad in OF work
Where are you watching drug dealers openly flaunt their money? Do you mean pharmacists?
what a weird conflation. first of all there shouldn't be "girls" on only fans. second of all sex work is legitimate work. you're not a good person, you just wrongly think you're better than people. fuck you.
tell us how you really feel, guy
i feel like this is incel shit
Sucker.
Which movie is this from? Need to jerk off to this
The Screenshot? I would say 'The Boys'
Thanks! Will watch it.
Jk I will jerk off to The Boys.
This is going places. Well done.