It's a sign of too much testosterone being converted to dht and having genes that sensitize the hair on your head to it so that they fall out, which primarily happens with age and stress.
He wants to look like a young virile male rather than looking like he swallowed a couch cushion.
I in the other hand want to look like whatever it is that pulls those dancing Asian girls in YouTube shorts. Want a femboy? I got u. Gangster? I guess I'm leaving stickers on hats now.
I don't have male pattern baldness, but is hair thinning a masculine trait? Just kidding, I couldn't give less of a shit what people consider makes me masculine. I'm a man as far as I'm concerned.
Ah, some years ago I've read an article about him and his plan, but didn't remember his face. The picture therein was something in the fashion of a mafia familiy photo.
I mean, it's just registered with godaddy. If they were charging him more than the standard like $20 or whatever per year, he'd just move it to another registrar, no? The main cost of a domain is buying is the upfront cost if someone else already owns it, but that's a one-time fee. Perhaps I'm sorely mistaken? I was under the impression Elon himself has the rights to it.
Not only that, I'd godaddy does charge him more yearly, icann certainly does not see any of that money.
I am a Rocket League addict. I hate that my once indie game is owned by a major public company that exploits us. Anyway, they just added the cybertruck to the game, and I frequently find myself playing against an all cybertruck team with nothing but cybertruck teammates to help me. And every time I see it, I can't help but feel like it's the anti-rainbow flag. Gay Pride month is over, now it's Trans Hate month; gotta cover all the bases.
Rocket league added a rainbow flag but then "accidently" removed it to where you needed to submit a support ticket to get it back. Lot of homophobic folks will react if you have it on your car. We must stunt on those fools.
Hmm, from the google results of reddit pages I see that it was wiped from some player inventories but it's still out there and tradable. Yes, very suspicious it's known but was never resolved.
Fellow baldy here. I put it off for so long, but going full-shave is great. I was so nervous about doing it but now I regret not doing it 10 years sooner!
Same. It does make me look like a completely different person though. And there are a few months at the beginning where you may have a very obvious tan line, but that will go away.
I was the opposite, I accepted going bald early on and went full-shave for a few years. When it grew back a bit everyone said it looks way better, and I regret spending most of my 30s with a shaved head.
Yeah I always cringe when I see the "hair transplants are gender affirming care" meme. It's so embarrassing when someone on your side of the argument says something so dumb. Going bald isn't feminine?
I get what everyone is saying, but if we're being totally honest their issue is with gender affirming care is when it's used for the opposite gender they want to force you to maintain.
Male affirm male ok.
Female affirm female ok.
Male affirm female... AHHHHHHH!!!! BE AFRAID!!!!
Either way we're all correct in calling them assholes that should stay the fuck out of our pursuit of happiness.
I literally heard an interview with a trans person who talked about how everyone who feels that they want to exert some effort to adjust their appearance to affirm the gender they feel is correct for them is trans. It doesn't matter what the starting or ending point is, if you make decisions to enhance your gender expression in any way, then you're engaging in trans behavior, and I think it's a great point.
Yeah, no. We don't need to make shit up. However, we could call it trans-gender affirming care and cis-gender affirming care. Using cis will trigger these idiots anyway, no need to call it trans.
He also has this thing about having lots of children to ensure the future of the human race. Dude, you know how you hated the way you looked? The surgeries aren't in your DNA. You're not part of a master race. (except he probably still thinks so because he's white cause he's a nazi shithead)
Yeah at least I acknowledge I looked great before the gender affirming care. I was hot pre transition, I’m hot post transition. Elon is over here thinking his kids will inherit his jawline and hairline. I’d insult his kids’ potential intelligence but his ex daughter seems to have gotten her mom’s brains
Yeah, the cognitive decline could be due to excessive drug use (ketamene). Plus the side effects of hormone imbalances on a person with malignant narcissism.
I have a theory that the anger issues could lead to cognitive decline. Anger and rage has a tendency to kick off the fight or flight response. With that comes survival mode, lizard brain thinking, and irrational decision making. There's a lot of viral videos of people in this situation where the anger is causing them to make bad decisions. The experience might even be traumatic for them, kicking off their mental defense mechanisms.
Afterward, they post-hoc try to justify what happened in those moments to hold onto the idea that they are still a good person. Occasionally they realize they have a problem that needs to be fixed, but many times they will dig into their irrational positions with new emotional attachments to it. It can take a lot of therapy to get past it, which still has a lot of stigma with testosterone-types, so they don't and the irrational "logic" builds up over time. Therefore, cognitive decline.
Are there more substantiated studies on the effects of anger, especially there we see this pattern? I think I am seeing it over and over, but I can't be sure of the prevalence of the behavior since there is a bias in the media I see.
According to Dr. Mike: steroids/testosterone, depending on what type and how much, can cause: anxiety, intrusive violent thoughts, a "marked, proximate reduction in IQ," and "an inability to perceive a broad spectrum of positive human emotion."
He (Dr. Mike) openly uses "gear" and has a PhD in sports physiology, so I consider his opinion valid. You can hear more about his thoughts on the subject (while literally feeling those effects from the steroids he uses) here:
The guy on the right definitely looks like he has enough testosterone. Sure it’s not the effects of testosterone that 16 year olds and pre transition trans men dream of excitedly, but speaking as a trans woman, that’s the effects I dreaded. He looks like if Jason Alexander wasn’t handsome. Nobody can deny that Jason Alexander looks masculine as fuck.
Did he really get jawline surgery? I thought it was just because of him abusing steroids and testosterone. That’s why he has that weird barrel chest nowadays.
What are you saying, that plastic surgery is gender affirming care, because it is in most cases. Exemptions would be things like a rhinoplasty for breathing impairments, but if done for looks it would fall under gender affirming care.
Gender is defined by a cultural perception, so all attractiveness would be encompassed within the cultural perception. So a lady who gets her breasts augmented wouldn't essentially matter whether it is to self affirm or vanity or to attract others, it would all just fall into what culture taught that person was appealing.
I'm sure there are many that would pick my wording apart or disagree, but maybe that answers some of your question? Self affirmation and vanity I would say are not mutually exclusive though, there is overlap.
What's the line between society and the individual? That's the core question here
If you can answer that I can probably give you a hint, but it's a concept that can't be taught, only learned. And it's an important one, worth thinking over... It's subjective, but key to understanding your own existence
Plastic surgery started as reconstructive surgery after accidents/invasive surgeries like mastectomies. Breast reconstruction and augmentation would both really fall under gender affirming care, although the former would be for losing something about themselves that was part of their gender and the latter for trying to fit social expectations.
Cranial reconstruction and other gender neutral plastic surgeries exist too.
Social expectations is gender though. What is a gender neutral plastic surgery? If you are doing a smaller nose for a woman or a larger nose for a man it isnt neutral.
This definition is contrasted with cosmetic surgery performed to improve aesthetics or the appearance of a body part.
Reconstructive surgery includes fixing a cleft lip. Repairing a half destroyed face after an accident. Removing extensive scarring that is causing pain because it isn't as flexible as non-scarred skin. There are TONS of gender neutral reconstructive surgeries.
Reconstructive surgery is performed to construct a person's look to fit what is socially wanted, which coincidentally is a part of gender. If it is not needed to breath, it is about attractiveness, which is a social construct separated in categories of gender. Which is why gender "norms" are often considered toxic and don't need to exist. If it is relieving pain or assisting with ones ability to breath/ eat, I would say it isn't gender affirming.
You say there are tons of gender neutral constructive surgeries/alterations,what would they be? One might be considered to be Botox, because it is used by both genders, but where/why it is used is different based on cultural perception of gender, aka gender affirming.
Long story short, gender is a social construct, if you are doing something to fit in with a society, it will likely fall there.
I did. Your link is just one, and starts with "Reconstructive surgery is surgery performed to restore normal appearance" meaning it is a cultural perception of normal. As for medical necessity that was in my first comment where I discussed breathing in an example of a rhinoplasty (the only example mentioned by either of us). So you supported what I was saying but are acting like you are refuting it. It's fine that we will disagree.
I think it's an illusion. The hairline, as well as a beard, changes how one "reads" a face. His squar-ish haircut also draws attention to similar features in the jaw.
Only difference between this incel and grandma's basement incel is that this incel herp-de-derped into a lucky break thanksto mommy and daddy's money. Once an incel alwaysan incel.
I doubt he chose to do those things. Some marketing agency suggested it and he went with it. He came up rich. He could have had this all along. He didn't do it until he started to market himself to manipulate the stock value of his companies. He is a very sad, empty shell that purely serves branding
Male pattern baldness is a male/masculine trait. Working against that is not gender affirming.
Stand by your shiny domes, men
It's a sign of too much testosterone being converted to dht and having genes that sensitize the hair on your head to it so that they fall out, which primarily happens with age and stress.
He wants to look like a young virile male rather than looking like he swallowed a couch cushion.
Gender affirming care.
Couch cushion image for reference.
Keep him away from jd
That's just a very vain middle-aged man that doesn't do any sports desperately sucking in his sizable gut.
He's shaped like a cybertruck...
Jesus fuck, those proportions are unfortunate
I in the other hand want to look like whatever it is that pulls those dancing Asian girls in YouTube shorts. Want a femboy? I got u. Gangster? I guess I'm leaving stickers on hats now.
Yeah, boyyeee!
Chrome domes unite
I don't have male pattern baldness, but is hair thinning a masculine trait? Just kidding, I couldn't give less of a shit what people consider makes me masculine. I'm a man as far as I'm concerned.
I'm bald.
I'm proud.
I'm bald and don't care one way or the other.
Neutral response
Like looking in a mirror.
from a hair transplant clinic in Istanbul
Not Constantinople?
Thats nobody's business but the Turks.
Been a long time gone, Constantinople
I've got a date in Constantinople
She'll be waiting in Istanbul.
Even old New York was once New Amsterdam.
Why they changed it, I can't say!
Now it's Turkish delight on a moonlit night
was Constantinople
Checks out, Elmo's really a pirla.
Did his jawline really change from the images left and right or are they just taken from different angles?
I searched for "paypal elon" and found other angles
Assuming Elon is the guy on the right, I don't see obvious differences to the left picture (except of course his hairline).
Ah, some years ago I've read an article about him and his plan, but didn't remember his face. The picture therein was something in the fashion of a mafia familiy photo.
Apparently x dot com stayed with PayPal until 2017 when Musk bought it back. While we don't know the price, it's probably been in the millions
https://qz.com/1026167/elon-musk-just-bought-x-com-the-domain-he-once-owned-from-paypal
Aside from the initial purchase of the domain, wouldn't the yearly registration be the standard registration renewal price?
I mean, it's just registered with godaddy. If they were charging him more than the standard like $20 or whatever per year, he'd just move it to another registrar, no? The main cost of a domain is buying is the upfront cost if someone else already owns it, but that's a one-time fee. Perhaps I'm sorely mistaken? I was under the impression Elon himself has the rights to it.
Not only that, I'd godaddy does charge him more yearly, icann certainly does not see any of that money.
Yea, this one's a stretch. My jawline continued to change in my 30s, and just 10lbs weight difference made a big shift in my face.
I am a Rocket League addict. I hate that my once indie game is owned by a major public company that exploits us. Anyway, they just added the cybertruck to the game, and I frequently find myself playing against an all cybertruck team with nothing but cybertruck teammates to help me. And every time I see it, I can't help but feel like it's the anti-rainbow flag. Gay Pride month is over, now it's Trans Hate month; gotta cover all the bases.
Rocket league added a rainbow flag but then "accidently" removed it to where you needed to submit a support ticket to get it back. Lot of homophobic folks will react if you have it on your car. We must stunt on those fools.
Whaaaaaaat?? I had not heard about this.
Hmm, from the google results of reddit pages I see that it was wiped from some player inventories but it's still out there and tradable. Yes, very suspicious it's known but was never resolved.
Do all the cybertrucks suddenly stop working for no reason? Otherwise it’s not an authentic experience
I'm so ready for the next event to happen so people switch to other cars
Idk. I feel like balding is more gender-affirming for a man.
I started balding at 24.
I hate it, but over the counter stuff hasn’t worked, and I can’t justify spending a lot of money on hair plugs just to make me feel better.
My wedding is this month, after that I’m just going full Mr clean.
I’m going to miss my hair.
Fellow baldy here. I put it off for so long, but going full-shave is great. I was so nervous about doing it but now I regret not doing it 10 years sooner!
Same. It does make me look like a completely different person though. And there are a few months at the beginning where you may have a very obvious tan line, but that will go away.
I was the opposite, I accepted going bald early on and went full-shave for a few years. When it grew back a bit everyone said it looks way better, and I regret spending most of my 30s with a shaved head.
Yeah I always cringe when I see the "hair transplants are gender affirming care" meme. It's so embarrassing when someone on your side of the argument says something so dumb. Going bald isn't feminine?
In this context I thought it was gender affirming as in "something that alleviates dysphoria" not as something specific to one end of the binary.
Why would going bald give a man gender dysphoria?
Why couldn't it?
I said I spoke in general not about one specific end of the gender binary so I don't understand why we're restricting the subject to men.
I get what everyone is saying, but if we're being totally honest their issue is with gender affirming care is when it's used for the opposite gender they want to force you to maintain.
Male affirm male ok. Female affirm female ok. Male affirm female... AHHHHHHH!!!! BE AFRAID!!!!
Either way we're all correct in calling them assholes that should stay the fuck out of our pursuit of happiness.
Ah, but you see, a man who wants to live as a woman is delusional. A weak, low-T beta male who wants to live as an alpha is
...no, I still can't figure out how they square that with themselves
Eh, "cut my penis off because I want to be a woman" is a pretty far leap from "I wish i wasn't bald". That's how they square it.
I'm not judging one way or other.
So it's just a question of degree?
That means they'll have no problem with men growing their hair out, for example, or wearing makeup?
I've never seen Elon present his long form birth certificate for the State of Texas to review, before beginning these treatments
Tbf: their understanding of the "original gender".
I literally heard an interview with a trans person who talked about how everyone who feels that they want to exert some effort to adjust their appearance to affirm the gender they feel is correct for them is trans. It doesn't matter what the starting or ending point is, if you make decisions to enhance your gender expression in any way, then you're engaging in trans behavior, and I think it's a great point.
I mean that's just completely incorrect though. The sentiment might be coming from a good place but it doesn't work that way.
Yeah, no. We don't need to make shit up. However, we could call it trans-gender affirming care and cis-gender affirming care. Using cis will trigger these idiots anyway, no need to call it trans.
He also has this thing about having lots of children to ensure the future of the human race. Dude, you know how you hated the way you looked? The surgeries aren't in your DNA. You're not part of a master race. (except he probably still thinks so because he's white cause he's a nazi shithead)
Yeah at least I acknowledge I looked great before the gender affirming care. I was hot pre transition, I’m hot post transition. Elon is over here thinking his kids will inherit his jawline and hairline. I’d insult his kids’ potential intelligence but his ex daughter seems to have gotten her mom’s brains
Poor Elon doesn't just understand what it's like to not be comfortable with your body without extensive medical treatments.
You've applied the "good guy with a gun" fallacy to gender affirming care.
I appreciate this.
Question: Can supplemental testosterone cause anger management issues and/or accelerated cognitive decline?
Anger management, yeah. Hence the "roid rage" stereotype.
Cognitive decline, I don't think there's any evidence.
Yeah, the cognitive decline could be due to excessive drug use (ketamene). Plus the side effects of hormone imbalances on a person with malignant narcissism.
I have a theory that the anger issues could lead to cognitive decline. Anger and rage has a tendency to kick off the fight or flight response. With that comes survival mode, lizard brain thinking, and irrational decision making. There's a lot of viral videos of people in this situation where the anger is causing them to make bad decisions. The experience might even be traumatic for them, kicking off their mental defense mechanisms.
Afterward, they post-hoc try to justify what happened in those moments to hold onto the idea that they are still a good person. Occasionally they realize they have a problem that needs to be fixed, but many times they will dig into their irrational positions with new emotional attachments to it. It can take a lot of therapy to get past it, which still has a lot of stigma with testosterone-types, so they don't and the irrational "logic" builds up over time. Therefore, cognitive decline.
Are there more substantiated studies on the effects of anger, especially there we see this pattern? I think I am seeing it over and over, but I can't be sure of the prevalence of the behavior since there is a bias in the media I see.
I think the easier explanation is that the cognitive decline is because of all the ketamine, like ThePowerOfGeek suggested
Lol, you got me. That would explain a lot. Cook it up with some ketamine and suddenly a lot of his behavior makes a lot more sense.
According to Dr. Mike: steroids/testosterone, depending on what type and how much, can cause: anxiety, intrusive violent thoughts, a "marked, proximate reduction in IQ," and "an inability to perceive a broad spectrum of positive human emotion."
He (Dr. Mike) openly uses "gear" and has a PhD in sports physiology, so I consider his opinion valid. You can hear more about his thoughts on the subject (while literally feeling those effects from the steroids he uses) here:
https://youtu.be/UrzF-rhJtOs?si=mtsodOqVO2aILvC-
One of the drawbacks to modern medicine and high life expectancies is that elon will be tormenting humanity for a long time :(
But with a small chin it seems.
It's weird he didn't get surgery for that.
The only good gender affirming healthcare is my gender affirming healthcare.
The guy on the right definitely looks like he has enough testosterone. Sure it’s not the effects of testosterone that 16 year olds and pre transition trans men dream of excitedly, but speaking as a trans woman, that’s the effects I dreaded. He looks like if Jason Alexander wasn’t handsome. Nobody can deny that Jason Alexander looks masculine as fuck.
Did he really get jawline surgery? I thought it was just because of him abusing steroids and testosterone. That’s why he has that weird barrel chest nowadays.
Yeah that's probably just someone assuming he got jaw surgery since his jawliy changed.
Oh he knows
That would require some self-awareness which Musk has none of that.
Bioessensialism for thee but not for me. (Fuck you, got mine basically.)
Everyone should post this to his Twitter
Hey hey hey.
Don't be saying "Twitter."
It's Shitter.
But yes, very much agreed.
Xitter
Plastic surgery.
What are you saying, that plastic surgery is gender affirming care, because it is in most cases. Exemptions would be things like a rhinoplasty for breathing impairments, but if done for looks it would fall under gender affirming care.
Where's the line between vanity and "self-affirmation"? Not a leading question.
Gender is defined by a cultural perception, so all attractiveness would be encompassed within the cultural perception. So a lady who gets her breasts augmented wouldn't essentially matter whether it is to self affirm or vanity or to attract others, it would all just fall into what culture taught that person was appealing.
I'm sure there are many that would pick my wording apart or disagree, but maybe that answers some of your question? Self affirmation and vanity I would say are not mutually exclusive though, there is overlap.
I'm not sure that's accurate.
Breast augmentation is vanity.
Breast reconstruction after a mastectomy is self-affirmation.
What's the line between society and the individual? That's the core question here
If you can answer that I can probably give you a hint, but it's a concept that can't be taught, only learned. And it's an important one, worth thinking over... It's subjective, but key to understanding your own existence
Plastic surgery started as reconstructive surgery after accidents/invasive surgeries like mastectomies. Breast reconstruction and augmentation would both really fall under gender affirming care, although the former would be for losing something about themselves that was part of their gender and the latter for trying to fit social expectations.
Cranial reconstruction and other gender neutral plastic surgeries exist too.
Social expectations is gender though. What is a gender neutral plastic surgery? If you are doing a smaller nose for a woman or a larger nose for a man it isnt neutral.
Reconstructive surgery is a subset of plastic surgery separate from cosmetic surgery.
Reconstructive surgery includes fixing a cleft lip. Repairing a half destroyed face after an accident. Removing extensive scarring that is causing pain because it isn't as flexible as non-scarred skin. There are TONS of gender neutral reconstructive surgeries.
Reconstructive surgery is performed to construct a person's look to fit what is socially wanted, which coincidentally is a part of gender. If it is not needed to breath, it is about attractiveness, which is a social construct separated in categories of gender. Which is why gender "norms" are often considered toxic and don't need to exist. If it is relieving pain or assisting with ones ability to breath/ eat, I would say it isn't gender affirming.
You say there are tons of gender neutral constructive surgeries/alterations,what would they be? One might be considered to be Botox, because it is used by both genders, but where/why it is used is different based on cultural perception of gender, aka gender affirming.
Long story short, gender is a social construct, if you are doing something to fit in with a society, it will likely fall there.
Maybe try reading the words I wrote or the links I provided.
I did. Your link is just one, and starts with "Reconstructive surgery is surgery performed to restore normal appearance" meaning it is a cultural perception of normal. As for medical necessity that was in my first comment where I discussed breathing in an example of a rhinoplasty (the only example mentioned by either of us). So you supported what I was saying but are acting like you are refuting it. It's fine that we will disagree.
I think it's an illusion. The hairline, as well as a beard, changes how one "reads" a face. His squar-ish haircut also draws attention to similar features in the jaw.
Only difference between this incel and grandma's basement incel is that this incel herp-de-derped into a lucky break thanksto mommy and daddy's money. Once an incel alwaysan incel.
I'm confused. He looks super high on the left, but his eyes are red on the right.
The answer is simple, he’s high in both. It’s just different drugs.
That does make sense. I hear he does a lot of ketamine these days. A lot of ketamine.
Ask Elon Musk if he’s okay with adults getting gender-affirming care.
In fact, ask anyone other than your own inner straw man whether they oppose gender affirming care for adults.
We don't need to ask him, his daughter is an adult and he treats her like shit and still dead names her. There's no strawman here.
I doubt he chose to do those things. Some marketing agency suggested it and he went with it. He came up rich. He could have had this all along. He didn't do it until he started to market himself to manipulate the stock value of his companies. He is a very sad, empty shell that purely serves branding
He had a choice. Nobody forced him to do anything.
Wait, wait, where does that happen?
Nowhere
Appeal to Extremes.