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TIL norway has a homicide map with exact locations of murders.

Link to the site

The map contains exact locations of homocides from the 2000s to now. You can zoom in far enough to see the neighborhood the murder(s) happened in. I'm sorry that the site is primarily in Norwegian, but you should still be able to zoom around. Wonder of there's a global map that's that detailed.

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Sparkyreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

And that's why it's important to look at these numbers pr capita in a given area if we want to draw useful conclusions

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snooggumsreply
midwest.social

Which also requires additional consideration for low population areas that can have their statistics swing wildly.

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lemm.ee

Yep, like when there's a remote mountain town of five people and two of them get murdered.

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Droechaireply
lemm.ee

Like the insane murder rate in Midsummer County? (If the tv serial is a valid source of murder incidents)

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lemm.ee

If Scandinavian homicide serials were accurate there would be nobody left!

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njm1314reply
lemmy.world

You ever notice how the third map's actually different? How there is suddenly a red dot down at the bottom about where San Antonio is?

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Grimyreply
lemmy.world

All I'm seeing is if you're in the northern half of Norway, stay away from water and you won't die.

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stay away from water and you won't die.

I've actually found the opposite to be the case worldwide.

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cafeinuxreply
infosec.pub

With the data I have at hand, people mostly seem to die in them.

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Sparkyreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

So what you're saying is that cities were made by governments in order to control the population, and to some degree reduce overcrowding? /s

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donreply
lemm.ee

All people that have died were at one point living. Avoid living at all costs.

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Easy. Just make it illegal to die in a city and deport old people to the nearest farming region

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lemmy.sdf.org

we learned our lesson the first time, time to put more cops in the dark areas where murders will cripple Norway permanently

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Slovenereply
feddit.nl

I don't know, were all the victims gay guys?

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I can say with confidence that at least some call it homocide map, with the evidence you've provided. 🧐

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lemmy.world

Well, there's one terror attack that happened on the island of utøya, apparently 69 people were killed

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lemmy.world

On Friday 22 July 2011, Norway was hit by two terrorist attacks. The bomb attack on the government quarter and the mass murder on Utøya are the worst acts of terrorism in Norway since the Second World War. The attack was politically motivated.

The perpetrator wanted to hit the state, the Labor Party and the party's youth in AUF.

At the AUF camp on Utøya in the Tyrifjord, 69 people were killed. 32 of those killed on the island were under the age of 18. The two youngest were only 14 years old. It took just over an hour from the time the police received information about the shots on the island until the perpetrator was arrested.

There were a total of 564 people on Utøya when the terrorist attacked. 495 survived by hiding in buildings, under dead friends, on mountain slopes or by swimming ashore.

The perpetrator, Anders Behring Breivik, is serving a sentence of 21 years in prison. In court, Breivik admitted to having committed the murders, but he pleaded not guilty.

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Sparkyreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

If I remember correctly, the police failed to arrive quickly because he bombed a government building in central Oslo. When they did arrive to the general area, they found out that the amount of equipment they had to bring with them caused them to exceed the weight limit of the boat they used which in turn flooded the engine with water. To add to the series of unfortunate events and general incompetence, they were forced to travel 3.6 km to the island instead of the planned 600m, adding delays to their arrival.

I remember the days after the attacks as I couldn't attend school due to many of the teachers losing their children at Utøya. Many of the teachers I had resigned as they couldn't bear the weight of lost family.

It still messes with me even though I was 6 or 7 when this happened, and wasn't directly affected. I can't think of how much pain those parents had to have endured

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lemmy.world

Oh I remember that, that was awful. He specifically wanted to kill children.

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IIRC, he also wrote in his diary about going to clubs and having one night stands, but it's OK because God will forgive him because of what he's about to do.

A Malcom Reynolds quote comes to mind: he's a monster who thinks he's right with God. That quote needs to be used more.

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That was 13 years ago already??

If you’d asked me to estimate when that happened I would have said that happened in 2018

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Yeah, that red circle around Utøya is really sad 😞

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According to later statistics released by Klassekampen, one in four Norwegians directly knew somebody affected by the attacks.

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Obireply
sopuli.xyz

They did the funny sex number joke, but the emoji indicates they already realized the poor taste of it all.

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How do I report murders that aren't showing up on the map? I've tried refreshing a million times and I'm 100% sure the murders are finalized?

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Sparkyreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

Have you tried turning the victim(s) on then off again? If that doesn't fix your issue I suggest you call tech support. Their local hotline is 112, and if you're looking for the international one it's 911. Both lines are toll free.

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You can try murdering your neighbor, see if they show up

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Well.... It's not "Norway has a map of murders", but a newspaper in Norway has made a map of murders in Norway.

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Looks like a Swede crossed the border one time and was immediately murdered by a Norwegian.

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I assume it's to humanize the victims of homicides, rather than portraying them as mere statistics on a spreadsheet.

Kinda sad tho

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lemmy.ml

How is this possible don't they have to keep them anonymous?

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Here's the reason for why the data is public (according to them)

This is why VG publishes an overview of all Norwegian murders

All murders have ripple effects. For the immediate family, for the local community and for society at large. VG has mapped all murder cases from 2000 to the present day.

Openness about who, where, how and why people are killed is important in order to be able to conduct a knowledge-based debate about murder as a social problem. It is only when the public knows what is happening that it is possible to implement preventive measures.

In recent years, a number of miscarriages of justice have been uncovered. VG believes that openness about criminal cases and legal processes is an important safety valve for avoiding prejudgment - and strengthening legal certainty for both victims and suspects.

Through its work on the report series "The unsolved deaths", VG revealed in 2023 that the official Norwegian statistics on unsolved murders were missing several murder victims. This underlines the need for an ongoing public overview of all murder cases - regardless of police assessments.

This text was translated to English using deepl. Here's the original article

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feddit.de

The Nordics are generally less reluctant with personal data compared to e.g. Germany.

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untorquerreply
lemmy.world

There's also a lot of tracking of who is accessing personal info. Most often you need to provide your own identity to look something up like property or vehicle owners if it's not given freely by the individual on a public site.

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feddit.de

But there are web sites where you can obtain information that e.g. in Germany would be afaIk not public, see e.g. hitta.se

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untorquerreply
lemmy.world

Interesting, is that not info people have voluntarily input? It looks like 1881.no which AFAIK is like old school yellow pages where you put your info in and it's combined with publicly available things like the business register.

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Yes, however a lot of this information would not be publicly available in Germany or only with valid concern, e.g. birthday, car ownership, value of the estate.

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You don't send in information to gulesider/180/1881, it's automatically added unless you specifically request to have your information removed for whatever reason. They're great sites to dox yourself for those of us that don't use a fake name on the Internet.

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My previous post... You add any personal info not publicly available. Publicly available info they add automatically 😀. I don't participate lol

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Muscarreply
discuss.online

Out of envy of their happiness. You only become more murderous the closer you get while still being outside of Denmark, as soon as you enter the country the murderous part of your brain detaches from the rest and slides into your mouth, which explains the way they talk.

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Sparkyreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

When you're logged out, you can only access data on antisocial people, like logged out of society.

Love the accidental metaphor

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I'm already signed up as I'm house hunting and I tried this to get a vague idea of where to move to.

This is what it looks like for England/Wales

No statistics for Manchester, though. I haven't looked into why that's a thing.

Edit:

A small section of Central London. It only tells you the rate vs the national average. The red in the population box at the top showing that crime here is more than 3x the national average (it doesn't show any higher figures)

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Being able to look through all of the details of the victims and crimes feels a little ghoulish.

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Sparkyreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

The reason for Norway having one of the longest coastlines is that it has a large number of small islands.

It's on an island

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lemmy.world

Also, I guess it's not that far fetched that 1 person was murdered on a boat some time during the last 24 years 🤷

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lemm.ee

What the fuck happened to Oslo?

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1/5th of norway's population lives in Oslo which is why the homocide rates seem inflated on that map

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Now I want to know how many murders happened across Jo Nesbø's novels compared to the actual number of murders in Norway.

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