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Am I the only one whose "shorts" feed is all basically softcore porn?

I almost never watch "shorts" but my suggestions for it seem to have an...uhhh...adult theme. I don't watch any such thing with YouTube. Does everyone see garbage like this?

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mbin.grits.dev

Bro you should have investigated the actual answer to this question before asking it publicly 😃

It's not to say you're watching lots of soft core porn but the algorithm has definitely decided that you'll like it

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lemmy.world

There's alot I could argue with but maybe the best answer I have is: why just the shorts? The rest of my YouTube feed kinda sucks but it isn't porn or titillating at all.

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slrpnk.net

Theyre separate algorithms so its prolly the only type of shorts youve clicked or hovered over for a some time

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Bellreply
lemmy.world

That's the thing, I think I've watched maybe 2 shorts ever, pretty sure they were not like these or at least only mildly sexy

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But it’s Google, so they know your browsing history and have you in a “bucket” for what their metrics think will drive engagement from you. (Or they don’t know enough about you and just think boobs will get you intersted, because sex sells.)

Meh. We’re all human. If Google thinks you like thirst traps, whatevs. Pretty ladies are pretty ladies.
But if you don’t want to see it, you can probably use feedback tools to change what they show you.

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lemmy.world

Well that’s just not how recommendation algorithms work. A part of it will be content based, directly related to what the user can be associated with.

However, the largest part is collaboration based filtering of content. That means, our user is put in a group based on his other preferences, let’s assume nerdy tech stuff, and then is shown content that he has not liked yet but his group of peers has, meaning he could probably like it too.

In other words - he’s not the one in fault here, YOU are (you pretty much have to be nerdy tech folks to be here).

Please, could everyone here stop clicking on this stuff so that OP don’t have to be associated with your filthy behavior, thank you.

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mbin.grits.dev

that’s just not how recommendation algorithms work

I didn't say anything about how they work -- only that it shows you stuff it thinks you will like. Which is basically what you said.

However, the largest part is collaboration based filtering of content. That means, our user is put in a group based on his other preferences, let’s assume nerdy tech stuff, and then is shown content that he has not liked yet but his group of peers has, meaning he could probably like it too.

Yes, based on other user patterns and how it categorizes him, it thinks he could probably like soft core porn too. That is, in fact, how it works. Glad we agree.

In other words - he’s not the one in fault here, YOU are

Please, could everyone here stop clicking on this stuff so that OP don’t have to be associated with your filthy behavior, thank you.

So it's perfectly realistic that everyone could be clicking on soft core porn to feed the algorithm these ideas, in contrast to OP, who couldn't possibly be clicking on it? You've decided they're the one and only person who definitely isn't doing that when clearly someone is?

How could you write this hostile and condescending message when I actually made a specific point to highlight the exact point you're making ("It's not to say you're watching lots of soft core porn") in my message? If a little more succinctly. I wasn't blaming OP in any way, just explaining (just as you did) that the algorithm based on his viewing patterns is what decides what to show him.

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lemmy.world

I had hoped that my last sentence showed my post was clearly in jest. The factual information was just needed to set up the joke. Neither hostility nor condescension was applied.

In fact, the avid reader might catch that I have implied myself in the group of people causing OP’s annoying trouble with light-clothed females since I too am here - presumably a tech nerd like OP and meddling with the algorithms affecting him by clicking on unsavory content.

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I've gotten sexualized ads in my work Gmail which I only use for work emails and nothing else. Pretty sure step one of Google's algorithms is "is man? Show titty"

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Vilianreply
lemmy.ca

holy shit lmao the first wood just gave up

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She's great. I saw a video of her a while ago using a sword that's designed to cut trees down.

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She really is. She has the radiance of youth and fantastic muscle tone. Long may she lumberjack. 🫡

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lemmy.world

But if I click, will I start getting recommendations like OP’s feed?

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That's a good question. Usually I will delete from my viewing history when I don't want recommendations but it may work differently with shorts. The YT app has an incognito mode, but I think you will get ads (even if you pay for no ads) while it is on.

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egeresreply
lemmy.world

I wish I had committed massive fraud so I was sentenced to death and be be able to choose to be chopped down alive by her 🥺

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She is peak wholesome+handsome content. The fun she's having decimating those logs is infectious.

Quality recommendation 👍

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programming.dev

Before anyone rails on OP too much let me tell you this. My shorts feed was full of tech stuff. Then one day I clicked on a hot girl and watched a few of the shorts. Big mistake. Now even though I'm not clicking on them again my feed looks like OPs.

I guess the lesson here is. Never click on these shorts ever if you don't want to get spammed by them.

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lemmy.world

agree, I do have some other things in my feed, but I'd definitely say the algorithm has certain preferences.

Probably has to do with most of my interests being pretty nice compared to 'ooh pretty girl'. So when it compares what I click on it's easier to find high frequency recommendations based on other peoples likes. I know fuck all about the algo that makes feeds, but my guess is that's how it works.

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programming.dev

Good point.

There is probably also a lot more of these "pretty girl" videos than "5 Fun Facts About JavaScript" or "Here is a Mistake Everyone Makes in C" so it's easier for the algorithm to serve them.

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exactly! its not so much that the algo is skewed against us (although...), but mostly the content it has available to it and our lizard brains in general that arn't helping. (or rather out desire to win the popularity contest and thus manipulate it in a way the algo is sensitive to). Because 90% of the 'pretty girl' videos wouldn't have these stereotypical clickbait dames in them if it didn't work in the first place

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lemmy.world

That's what it looks like when I'm logged out. It's just a bunch of nerd shit when I'm logged in. Don't click the tits, not even once.

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Soon, titty recommendation-free Google accounts could be a hot commodity.

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Don’t click the tits, not even once.

This comment requires and deserves an epic reply of some kind, but I got nothing right now.

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I think it's been done for a minute, but YouTube definitely thought I was a furry for a hot minute.

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muzzlereply
lemm.ee

I think the real lesson is: do not login and purge your cookies and browser storage regularly.

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Thank god my feed is filled with dogs, kittens and birbs instead of this shit

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Mine started out like this but eventually was replaced with gaming content and cars. Does anyone know how to get the porn back?

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lemm.ee

Doesn't work. You ever tried to buy sex toys on amazon? They will not let you run a proper search.

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Auxreply
lemmy.world

I don't know what's wrong with your Amazon, but it works just fine here.

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Auxreply
lemmy.world

Tried just now, plenty of toys for every taste.

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lemm.ee

Mine isn't like that but there can be a few reasons I'd guess at:

  1. YouTube recommends you things other people in your household watch (which can extend to random people if your isp uses cnat and doesn't give you an individual ip).
  2. This one is more of a guess, but I'd assume a lot of people would click on that content, so if you never watch shorts maybe their algorithm just gives you the default recommendations.
  3. If you watch adult content without protecting your privacy it's most likely associated with your account in their recommendations.
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lemm.ee

Yeah the YouTube algorithm is one of the worst recommendations engines I have seen tbh. It actively removes types of videos I repeatedly search for from my recommendations, and fills it with garbage I never watch.

But in the case of op it looks like a 100% horny content ratio which seems excessive, even for yt.

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The Horny algorithm kicks in hard and fast.

If I want porn I watch porn, I dont give myself softcore blueballs. But sometimes when I'm dumbscrolling I'll click on one and YT thinks I submitted a bulk order.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

I've never had issues with the YouTube algorithm, my feed is full of games, tech, science stuff and long form videos explaining shit. That's about it, because that's about all I watch.

Am I just lucky that it's reliable for me?

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For me, there are 2 specific things that annoy me to no end with it. 1 is my guilty pleasure, I love watching hour long videos from Asian channels where they just film restaurants or bakeries making food in large batches. Honestly, youtube seems to actively remove them from my feed. I have to search for them every 2 weeks despite watching this content at least weekly. The second is the opposite. At Christmas I searched for a video of a fireplace with music to put on as ambient background for dinner. My feed is chock full of 8+ hour music playlists now despite never having looked at another one. It's been 4 months.

I don't know what it is but i swear they have content they like showing you and content they dont like. If you want the former your experience will be OK. If you want the latter then they just decide you're wrong and still get the former.

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This is what I wanted to comment. I added this list and it works like a charm.

I was getting side tracked by these YouTube shorts all the time and it started becoming an issue. They are too addictive and mostly just void.

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lemmy.world

Depends where you're YouTubing. I believe the main solutions are browser extensions and app mods.

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App mods work fine. It's just sad that "making the best product to the user" has very obviously not been the priority for many many years.

You'd think these settings should be available to the user, right? Nope. This is from a modded version.

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I don't know why there's so much soft porn on every platform, skirting the rules and hiding just enough to be allowed.

The real porn is still there. You can just go look at it.

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lemmy.ca

Lol that algorithm has you in that demo for a reason I'm sure. Not sure I would've asked this publicly.

Also, who's is a contraction of "who is" or "who has". You want the possessive "whose"

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Not sure I would've asked this publicly.

The horror of liking good looking women

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Not sure I would’ve asked this publicly.

At this point I think everyone knows that everyone else does the same thing.

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programming.dev

FYI: when you disable YouTube history it'll disable recommendations too

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lemmy.world

My issue with that is that then you see default youtube, which is also terrible.

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oh, I've never used this official mobile app for youtube. I was talking about the desktop version.

edit: They must have changed something. Previously, no login desktop youtube just had the most bottom of the barrel clickbait shit that appealed the ipad kids.

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Sort of. It pretends to disable recommendations, but things like shorts that show up in feeds a related videos are still skewed toward you. They just disable the ability to really scroll through them to try to encourage you to turn it back on. You can trust their profile on you is still kept up-to-date ;)

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lemmy.world

Way to out yourself. Their algo depends on what you spend time watching. Lol

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lemmy.world

Eh. Pretty much all of my viewing is related to physics I don't understand, astronomy I don't understand, and weird history stuff. I still get the soft porn algorithm on shorts.

Closest I come to viewing is when I'm scrolling and my phone interprets that as a click. Then I get pissed off because that fraction of a second for the algorithm is like letting a single pregnant cockroach into your kitchen.

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Try to remember to select the 'Don't recommend this channel' any time you see those sorts of videos. I've been doing that a ton lately and my shorts feed is mainly shit that's actually interesting, and the more I ban those shit vids, the better my feed has been getting.

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Yeah, the simplicity and also effectiveness of advertising algorithms are sometimes overstated.

There is a huge amount of data that is stored about users, and that does definitely make its way into the ads that we see. Grouping all the user information into ad categories is not a simple task, so there's a lot of mismatch that happens. But a lot of the time it's also location-based, time-based (when who views what) or even just what the biggest spenders want us to see based on our demographics. Tits and ass are fairly demographic agnostic, so they appear in a lot of feeds regardless of preference or orientation.

Right-wingers are fairly desperate to push their viewpoints and pay a lot to so, so we end up with a lot of vague associations or fully non existent ones resulting in that kind of content appearing in feeds. I'm a left leaning, queer and trans woman living outside the US and I see these bullshit ads from time to time (which for obvious reasons is pretty infuriating). I honestly think that having a small online footprint and using adblockers, privacy-friendly browsers and operating systems, etc. is going to become more and more common just as a mode of self-care.

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This is just untrue. Shorts defaults to the same for me as a gay man who has never clicked on a single one of them.

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I had a phase, where it suggested loads of shorts from turkish cigarrette factories. I never watched anything cigarrette related and my subs contain mostly science communication, makers and some commentary channels

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Idk when I made a new account on Facebook all it did was show me fake pages with porn. After a while the algorithm caught up to my style and now I have to go find it randomly lol

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While that is true, it's also true that if the algo has no data on you it just shows you what most other people want to see, which is usually boobs

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I constantly get pro right wing, pro Christian garbage in my feed. I keep spamming do not recommend channel and not interested and yt keeps shoveling that garbage in my shorts feed. Ads are also "suggested" based on geophraphic area.

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Yeah, it seems to show me mostly comedy stuff, tool and hardware stuff, and some computer and retro gaming stuff. But almost none of this kind of stuff.

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I'll say that at least a few months ago, on a brand new system I went to YouTube and it looked pretty much like this, with a fresh history and no login. I thought it was unusual and then I logged in and they mostly went away.

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lemmy.world

I've never had anything softcore-adjacent even, mine are filled with magicians and obscure shorts that are not sexual in any way, at any point in history. They seem highly targeted toward my viewing history at any given moment in time.

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Mine shows 90% videos from channels I've either subscribed to or at least watched before, and 10% random pop culture stuff.

Then again, I don't actually use YouTube very much, and if I come across a video on Lemmy or wherever I never open it with a logged-in browser. Maybe I've inadvertently gamed the system.

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Works fairly well for me when I'm on the shorts doomscrolling. Your mileage could vary of course.

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lemm.ee

Youtube Shorts hasn't done this for me (I actually follow some creators that make shorts so it's usually them) but Facebook's version is infuriatingly just like this and also I can't get rid of them. Every time I see one I go to the dots and select "don't see any more of these" but they just keep showing up and it's always some girl doing a yoga pose in a bikini, camera decidedly pointed directly at her vagina.

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It only seems to show me the same 15-20 shorts since they first started featuring shorts on the main page. They're relevant to what I watch, but they're all hella old and I've seen the ones that interest me already. IDK why it never updates.

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lemm.ee

Do you run an adblocker like PiHole or ADGuard on your network?

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lemmy.world

I do have a PiHole. Why would that change the recommendations?

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I have no idea but I experience the same problem with small set of repeating shorts when on my home wifi network.

If I disconnect my phone from the wifi and use mobile internet instead, it often starts working better with YouTube Shorts.

Edit: my comment was about the set of shorts repeating and not why the algorithm choose sexy shorts for you.

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Perhaps if their ad services (googleadservices.com, doubleclick) have something to do with it, but I frankly doubt it.

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I watched them mindlessly for a while, starting recently. But then the algorithm just started showing me like the same 15 videos and nothing else. One or two new ones here and there, but it's definitely fully lost any interest I had.

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Google has more info on you that any other company on the planet... they know what you are into. You private tabs were never really private.

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lemmy.world

My shorts feed mostly consists of videos about the signs of depression and mechanical keyboards.

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lemmy.world

Depends on whatever psychological profile google has created for you I guess. Currently mine is mostly about exotic guns, because I found that fascinating for a while. I don't own any guns and I am not a supporter of lax gun laws. But google does google things.

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lemm.ee

You bastard LAX is a major international airport. We can’t afford to have lax security there.

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lemmy.world

I am not a native english speaker. But according to the dictionary lax meand loose or casual. Is it uncommon?

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You are correct, but LAX is also the Los Angeles airport code. He's just fuckin with you

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lemmy.world

My FB has loads of this and I am convinced it's because someone in my friends list is going wild on Asian cam girls

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On my subscription page, it shows shorts from my subscribed channels. On my main page, it's girls in bikinis playing on a guitar, violin or drums. I wantch a lot of independent musicians doing instrumental covers, but I don't recall seeing any of them wearing skimpy clothing.

I guess it's sort of like facebook, to increase engagement. I stopped visiting there about a year ago, but I didn't close my account. I now get one friend recommendation daily, and it's always sexy looking girls I've never heard of. These sites register me as male, so they always combine my interests with sexy females, to entice me to spend more time there.

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Mine is entirely alt right "comedians" and helldivers 2. I'm pretty sure the algorithm thinks I wholeheartedly endorse the SuperEarth ideology.

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lemmy.world

I'd like to do that but that's also how YouTube indicates which videos you've already watched, which YouTube will frequently re-serve in your recommendations.

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lemmy.world

Oh, don't worry, reccomendations will be dead too! Fun fact, I turned off my Watch History 5+ years ago, but 6 months ago YouTube decided they, "needed," my history to give me recommendations. I decided that was fine, so now the Homepage tab is disabled, the Shorts tab is disabled, and now I just have a subscription list from creators I like! I still get related videos when watching a video, and that's more than adequate to discover new content. I don't have time to watch all my subscriptions anyway, so if YouTube can't reccomend 30 videos I've never seen before under every video I watch, what do I care?

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lemmy.zxcvn.xyz

I do something similar, but I guess scorched earth edition:

  • Only use firefox, no chrome or chromium variants

  • Never signed in to my google account (only have it to keep a gmail forward going for old ass subscriptions)

  • Have firefox configured to only keep whitelisted sites' cookies and data between restarts - google is not on that list

  • uBlock Origin

The last several months I started seeing that youtube screen "enable history to see recommendations" blank page when first landing, as if it was a punishment to me. It's not. I remember all the channels I like, and it's easy enough to keep checking back. So that blank screen is actually a nice bonus to me.

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It's amazing how Google thinks giving you the content you actually want to see is some kind of punishment, especially when 90% of the other content is sweaty needs whining about how woke Hollywood is.

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My YouTube is well-trained, but this is how my Instagram is. Didn’t use it or follow anybody on it for years. Recently took to scrolling and watching funny dog videos on there. I was showing my GF a funny pupper and accidentally tapped the search loupe at the bottom. BOOM. Bouncing boobies and butts covered my screen. I just kind-of stared at it in disbelief, saying “What the hell?” She got a laugh out of it. I guess this is a big part of instagram now.

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If youtube shows me anything but music video's in my home page I tag them as do not like and don't show this type of content

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sh.itjust.works

Instagram is way more aggressive. I can't search for anyone on there without being blasted with highly questionable content and softcore

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Auxreply
lemmy.world

Search for cats for a week or so and you'll only see cats.

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sh.itjust.works

Can't decide if it's worth the effort to search for cats or just abandon ig

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Yeah buddy that's definitely on you mine is all science and homestead content.

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The algorithm makes sense to me, in that on my main PC I pretty much exclusively watch nerd shit on youtube. Tech stuff, 3D printing, machinery, motorcycles, that sort of thing. Youtube therefore probably assumes I am male, so in my Shorts feed seems to be comprised of about 90% boobies, and 10% clips about guns.

But then the algorithm doesn't make sense to me, because on my living room PC we pretty much exclusively watch cat videos, bird videos, and videos-for-cats (the ones with all birds and squirrels and stuff), How Ridiculous, and Gavin Free. The Shorts feed there is also roughly 90% boobies, but in fairness the remaining 10% appears to be cats.

(Neither instance is logged in to a Google account or anything.)

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More of a you think, I think. My shorts feed mostly comedy stuff, DND stuff, art stuff, and music stuff. Well, and the odd Christian preacher, which I assume gets wrapped up with the atheism content I also see.

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Honestly, I recently created a fake Facebook account and the first things to pop up in the "shorts" was all actual porn (soft but nudity and all) so unlike others I don't think this MUST be your own doing

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I'm always on an anonymous VPN and for work am never logged in to YouTube and this is the unfiltered garbage I see too on suggested content.

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YouTube lately has stopped attempting reccomendations entirely, instead they berate me for having history turned off lmao.

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lemmy.world

First, why do you even have a shorts feed? Get rid of that trash. Second, stop clicking on porn and it'll stop recommending you porn.

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lemmy.world

Psst. There are other sites where that's also available, for free, with better quality.

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That’s a big part of the complaint. I’ve certainly never used YouTube for porn. It’s annoying in general but it’s not a good place for porn so all they’re doing is making it more annoying for any other use

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feddit.nl

I disabled shorts everywhere. Before I saw your post, I couldn't even recall YouTube having shorts. 

Also, Google tracks your everything, not just your YouTube history. You likely use Google Search a lot for adult content. Even a VPN and browsing on incognito mode might not save you. They have lots of ways track you.

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Mine is a bunch of podcast clips and reality TV drama slop.
I guess it suggests whatever is popular in your country?

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Jelly- mine is all electronics, home building, and plumbers. Oh yeah, and a bunch of standup comedy.

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YouTube shorts are something I hate so much, that is why I removed them thanks to the extensions available for Firefox.

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lemmy.ml

There are Firefox extensions to: disable shorts, make your homepage your subscription page.

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Also revanced can disable shorts on mobile and smart tube next on tv

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Mine's the same. For some strange reason, full of hot chicks. I also don't watch shorts. Maybe they know I'm male and figure that will draw me in.

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Never touch the YT homepage. Always went straight to Subscription tab and watch stuff you subscribe to or search for the stuff you want to watch yourself. Also turn off watch history and web activity.

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I'm just getting REAL tired of YT recommending these shit channels that have <300 views, <10 thumbs up, and yet have 20k+ subs and their just ripped videos from other sources with obviously AI generated text to voice.

I've reported a few, and YT has removed them.

Here's an example of one, https://www.youtube.com/@WorldViewtheory973/videos

Putting out a video on random topics every 2 hours.

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Issue is if you accidentally watch one it will Keep getting recommended, it happened to me with the Dexter TV show.

Keep selecting don't recommend this channel and maybe watch something else?

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lemmy.zip

The irony is if I had real control over the shorts I'd actually sometimes watch them. But currently YT is trying to force them on me, with no control over which shorts I watch.

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feddit.de

YouTube revanced let's you disable shorts permanently. Fuck those useless videos, designed to get you addicted. I'm fairly sure consuming too many shorts irreparably damages the brain. Don't quote me on that but people just stopped fact checking because it takes longer than 20 seconds.

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lemmy.zip

I mostly don't like how it just feels like YouTube corporate wants me to watch shorts instead of regular videos. I don't want to be their darling user bowing to the whims of the empire.

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sh.itjust.works

I just fucken hate short form content. A twenty minute video is too short for me sometimes, give me a three hour long video on how some dude went missing in a random ass national forest ive never heard of.

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I don't hate short form content necessarily. It's a mood thing. Sometimes, I want to see a rapid fire of motorcycling videos, for instance. But other times I want to see 20 minute videos, and other times I'm in the mood for videos over an hour.

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lemmy.world

IDK, I've been having decent luck with them lately. After channel banning a bunch of thirst trap and tikthot dance vids, I'm really only seeing cooking/science/D&D shit in my shorts feed.

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There is a part of me that does want to scroll through short form videos, but they're all run by companies I hate:

  1. TikTok (eeeeeeewwwwww, I won't touch them with a 40 foot pole)
  2. Meta (Just no, why would I want to help Zuck)
  3. YT (I lost my trust in them with so many other things)
  4. Snapchat (this is probably the most plausible, as this company is E-tier while the others range from F tier to M tier)
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this video's timeline tells you all you need to know about the subject

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click on the non-horny ones for thom to stop suggesting it to you

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lemm.ee

There's plenty of extensions to block shorts entirely. I'm on YouTube for a good reason. If I was interested in under 10min videos I'd be elsewhere.

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You can also just block element with uBlock to get rid of it, no need for an additional extension.

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Hahaha. Whoa! So different. Mine is All stand up comedians and military training things and toolmakers DIY stuff.

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It recommends me some of those sometimes, but most of the time my shorts feed is kinda interesting and from people I follow

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

I ended up installing an extension that blocked all shorts, most of them are trash waste of time anyways.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Dunno what you are subbing to or your interests but mine are almost always sciency (chemistry/physics), engineering, tech, gaming, IT or comedy related.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Most of mine were short cropped clips of videos I've already seen, so it was a big waste of time having them up.

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Yeah, I have seen some channels reuploading a shorter version of their videos as teasers or a vertical version.
Those absolutely can be skipped without missing anything.

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My main account there is nothing like this, even the shorts are mostly pop science stuff.

But my other account is very much this way on purpose, much like my other Lemmy account, X account (really the only one I use anymore), etc.

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I never actually log into YouTube so don't get a tailored feed.

Popular videos all adopt one of several formats for their cover.

Search "house music". It's always hot girls.

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lemmy.world

Bruh, fuck YouTube, and if you really have to use it use an alternative client. Grayjay has plugins for more apps but there are solely clients with YouTube no adds no shorts and newer with no games

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This. I use Revanced and it hides the shorts shelf and movies by default, so if you're tutorial hopping you don't get sidetracked. You can also choose to hide all side related videos, or just the "recommended for you" algorithm. Bonus, it comes with sponsor block built in.

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programming.dev

Just set up Grayjay because of your comment. The seamless integration of both Patreon and YouTube into the same feed is so good. Thanks a lot!

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Yup some days and its annoying. You click on one that you think will be genuinely interesting and if it has any woman being any level of attractive, your feed turn to thirst trap. I like woodworking and outdoors engineerinf Innocent stuff right?. Now I get the most handsome bearded athletic hunk lumberjack that keep posting log splitting videos. Took me a while to realize that it was not about that cool ax head or the wedge technic.

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I think this stuff is high engagement content among a large subset of the population. So it gets recommended a lot.

Maybe if you watch videos with a niche that doesn't also draw in the same audience as the borderline porn stuff's, you will see less of these shorts. Alternatively, you can download a YouTube client that gives you a completely different interface for subscriptions and recommendations, or use an Invideous instance.

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I’ve found that shorts is pretty aggressive about serving up more of the same stuff if you watch something and don’t downvote it.

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I've watched of one clip of that "NPC girlfriend" or whatever. Now the recommendation is all that and softcore porn. Haven't watched porn on YouTube, that I remember. Maybe it's because I turned off all tracking I could it just goes with age and gender or something.

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When I'm logged in, the few shorts they show me tend to be from channels I'm subscribed too. If I go to the homepage incognito (back when they still showed you stuff when you rejected their terms) it was mostly either shock value, expensive stuff, sexualised stuff, sports. So lowest common denominator stuff, I guess.

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Yeah it's all that and that bald firefighting bloke. Honest kind of OK with it.

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I get the "Fun fact!" guy, that sorta fat dude who apparently has a forge and a farm and runs a DnD campaign...? that one dude that critiques crap tool reviews and ends every video with "There you go!" and a channel that...over-explains the HBO miniseries Band of Brothers?

I don't get any tit bait which means I've either done something wrong or done something right.

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Yes, but for some reason it's asian women doing sports. I never watch shorts anyway so whatever.

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No, but I don't mind that. It's the only time short feed content is acceptable for me.

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Yeah lots of thirst traps. I have the big issue on FB shorts. I have to admit I've taken the bait and honestly it's not worse than anything else on my feed so whatever.

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I had the idea to start counting it as a "Thirst-trap BINGO" each time every single thumbnail for shorts recommendations had a half naked woman with her mouth slightly open. Turns out that it happened more than half the time, and the game quickly got boring.

I have never watched a single short on YouTube, so apparently it's just the default recommendations that are horny af.

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With shorts, yes. I don't really watch shorts tho. Their suggestions for horizontal videos are mostly news, cars, robots, and woodworking.

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I haven't actively used Facebook since I was in high school, and recently scrolling through my feed it's not even softcore it's straight up p*rn!

example (NSFW obviously)

I keep hiding these posts & they don't stop appearing... I wish I could tell Facebook I'm not a perpetually online horny teenager anymore. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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I don’t generally use YouTube since I find it more frustrating than enjoyable or useful, but I occasionally follow links that look interesting. I had never paid attention to “shorts” except they appeared extra annoying the one time I tried.

Sure enough, mine are similar. Oh well, I’ll continue ignoring them as mostly annoying

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The funny part is that sometimes I play this little game to see how many videos it takes to fully pornify my home page and it doesn't work if you want it to be like that.

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Mine is standup comedy, quick videos on how to use modern weapons, quick videos on how to use medieval weapons, FPS gamers doing crazy moves, and those guys who make love action shorts about video games.

My advice is stop giving thumbs up to the softcore porn.

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I was spammed with those when shorts started. It took forever but I finally don't have those suggested anymore. As someone else posted, once creators I follow started doing shorts, those appeared as suggestions and took over the feed.

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piefed.social

My facebook reels are worse than that - endless girls shaken their boobs and ass at me. Most of them look extremely fake and enhanced with AI to make everything bigger. Often there will be a split second scene in the clip (too short to be caught by the censorship system?) of something pornographic. Seems like most of the girls have an Onlyfans.

I don't watch porn or browse thirst traps on instagram or anything. It's nuts.

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Great. You made me actually search for the titles. I guess it's infectious.

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Mine is video games, guitar playthroughs, and fragments of bands I listen to performing live

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Mine is like 50% vids from people I mildly dislike and 50% Vtubers. I think there is really just not very much good short content.

Edit: To clarify, I'm not anti-Vtuber, I'm just not convinced that a 30 second clip from a livestream counts as good short content. The only high quality shorts channels I'm aware of are Tom Bates (who produces Nigel and Marmalade, a series about a tiny wizard and his dog-horse best friend) and Natural Habitat Shorts (funny animations about anthro animals, based on real animal facts).

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lemmy.world

They are tracking you even in incognito with a VPN and even across services. People have been using these types of tools for a very long time and porn sites have been tracking people all the while. Basically your devices have enough unique attributes accessible through JavaScript API like make model, screen resolution, bluetooth radio capabilities like ble, connection speed, etc. Basically brute force every data point available in the API and use the results to build a profile to recognize you. Tools like https://modernizr.com/ while not exactly intended for this still make it easier.

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Air gap yourself or you can disable JavaScript. But who does that haha. Albeit many browsers allow you to disable JavaScript these days, it's not a great experience. I will say that it's hard to monetize these types of profiles because they are somewhat ephemeral and not always accurate. But they are good enough to use to increase engagement on a admin dashboard so that's what happens. Also there is some considerations to be made in terms of how similar people could potentially buy similar devices and use them in similar ways producing similar profiles. Decisions are made by analysing engagement metrics without any awareness of the behavior that drives them. I think this is what might have led to what Google is pushing as the new model for tracking users instead of cookies. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federated_Learning_of_Cohorts

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I get loads of funny content, a lot of great female comedians on shorts at the moment and skit writers. A lot of brief science videos trying and often succeeding in tempting me down a rabbit hole. Then random stuff like rainbolt guessing the country in 0 01 seconds of a greyscale image, nilered showing how radioactive things are or how great they look exploding. Plus a few oddball bits that come from nowhere, and of course nerd girls thirsttrapping with golden era sci-fi themed science facts but not nearly as many as you'd think considering how quick I click on them.

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From the image, I have seen 3 of them on my youtube homepage.

It's such a distraction while you are browsing for videos... Recently I have been trying this extension to block off shorts. I think it works for the most part.

Hope this helps someone.

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Are you using the app? Are you logged in?

Ask yourself why, then log out, delete the app, and go watch on a browser without logging in.

Or if you have to use an app, try Smarttube or something similar. Without logging in.

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