That's what the campaign to quash the bill did. That, and tried to convince people that they might have a single multi-million-dollar transaction in their life (like selling a large successful business) and have to pay an extra 4% on it.

Always a push to get the "temporarily embarassed millionaire" to support the reach. "Yeah, yanno. My little lawmowing operation that makes me $20,000 coild sell for over a million and then I'm fucked"

Lemmings, I think. The self-deprecating-self-monikers seem to be most successful. IMO

When I was a teenager, a bunch of my friends online were tossing that around. I found a trojan and started sending it around as cupholder.exe but making it look like I wasn't the one who sent it... and just immediately logged in and opened their CD tray. Then started fucking with their system in silly ways.

Ahh the good old days when even malware wasn't that bad. Or maybe I was just a really stupid kid. At least I password-locked the trojan and removed it when I left.

Herbalife, fucking herbalife.

This weekend, I went into what looked like an indie smoothie shop and dropped an ungodly amount of money on a delicious sounding shake... only to watch the lady drop a scoops of powder and ONE freeze-dried strawberry into a cup with ice. Tasted like ass.

Yet they do have regulars to that shit, and nobody is taking them out of business. I want my fucking $11 back. So anyone reading this doing a class action against Herbalife, I want in...

But I doubt it, since it's a scam that's so normalized we don't realize it's a scam anymore.

It seems odd putting meat in the same category as bread.

In terms of pure health, there's not much out there better than most meats. Yes, beef is a bit lower than pork and chicken, but properly portioned (looking at most of us Americans) it has very few downsides.

Bread on the other hand can be one of the worst foods we can eat. Of course, it is still all about moderation.

EDIT: Why the reddit-like downvotes folks? There's really no cohesive argument that puts meat below bread healthwise in most situations. If you want to avoid meat, avoid meat. If you want to be morally opposed to anyone eating meat, so be it. Facts are still facts and misinformation isn't the right way to fight that battle.

I’m not sure I believe this former employee either. I read the “reasons they left,” and it’s simply too unbelievable

Statements from actual victims often do. That's part of the problem with the culture of not believing, or even alienating, victims. I'm not saying it should be treated as evidence against the company, but the company absolutely should make sure this believe is not happening internally and those of us on the outside should be charitable towards this former employee's testimony unless contradictory evidence shows up.

Using the Depp/Heard thing as a point of reference. There were good reasons to suspect her claims were fabricated or exaggerated, but I've also known people who have gone through many of the relationship experiences she testified about. Until she had her day in court and showed the world her (probable) dishonesty, even she deserved the benefit of charity. Or else by sheer misfortune we will start telling real victims they made it up.

For me, it's board games. I figured a few good board games could last a while. I'm sure you are (incorrectly) guessing the next step, that I just bought too many.

No, I bought Kingdom Death: Monster. And now I want the expansion packs, which combine to nearly $3000.

NGL this is driving me crazy. Without searching for things, just talking about them, they start showing up in ads. Even in places that don't have google/alexa speakers.

At this point, I'm reaching full-tinfoil and think they have a voice chip installed under my skinl...

Trans folk still identify as Trans indefinitely in about 94% of cases. Evidence suggests many of the other 6% are bullied, harassed, or threatened as a factor in their changing the way they identify.

Or was that a rhetorical question?

Wow. You're giving off some heavy misogyny vibes right now accusing me of having a herd mentality for pointing out actual symptoms of actual problems. We're not even talking about the LTT accusation anymore, but about specific behaviors you used to decide that she was probably lying. That is the shit that makes people afraid to tell anyone when they are abused.

Do we think that the LTT facilities don’t have cameras covering every square inch?

I've worked at some big paranoid companies, cameras everywhere (full lockdown, fwiw), that have dealt with abuse issues. My own boss was stuck in a toxic environment regarding another coworker for MONTHS before she got the courage to speak up and deal with it. Guess what. The cameras don't do much when a large part of the abuse is verbal and the abusive moments are just that - moments.

Thing that made me feel like shit? I witnessed some of it, and took it as consenxual because she wasn't saying anything about it. I was young, dumb, and raised to have the same mindset you're showing me right now.

That none of it occurred on any kind of technology that would or could be audited, right?

Not sure. I'm using Reid's Principle of Credulity at this point and time. Should evidence come out she is lying, I will stop giving her the benefit of a respectful response. The presence of cameras at LTT's office is not that. People are abused in front of, or around, cameras all the bloody time.

Use your brain brochacho. These are the fabrications of someone who is mentally unstable. Not of a victim. Unless… a victim of their own mind.

I'm going to give this to you straight. I've heard someone say basically the same thing with the same attitude about a domestic abuser. Then the "lying" victim was hospitalized. If you had lived that life experience, would you act that way?

You understand that people who are victims of abuse, especially sexual abuse, are often afraid to come out, to tell anyone? What you are calling evidence of being fabricated is a symptom of abuse, and people who are trained to understand and report on those types of abuse are also trained to do so from victims who will go so far as to deny it had ever happened.

For your own benefit, please read this National Domestic Violence Hotline article on exactly why people's loved ones never share that they have had situations worse than Reeve alleged. Yes, it's about domestic abuse and not workplace abuse, but it is the same type of trauma and helplessness.

You are actually a little bit incorrect.

In the vein of words like homophobia, these words' definitions are not strictly in line with their etymology. Per every dictionary (but quoting Webster), transphobia is defined as:

irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against transgender people

And this might create some linguistic ambiguity, but I cannot seem to find actual documentation on a medical or psychological fear of transgender people at all. It seems this behavior is entirely (or almost entirely) a learned bigotry.

The other word, "transmisia", has not really been officially adopted in any circle I can find. The only place I could find it with any prominance is a site called the "Trans Language Primer", and I know nothing about it (except that it looks like geocities) so I won't be linking it directly. Suffice to say, they speak negatively of the term (despite defending it as having a good intention) and favor "transphobia" for reasons of clarity.

And caffeine.

No, he's right. If people just "fuck off" instead of protesting, shit doesn't get done.

Some people don't just want to "move on" when they're pissed at yet another example of capitalism ruining a platform that got itself a monopoly because of capitalism. If reddit hadn't been there when Digg died, somebody else would have. That somebody else might have done things differently than reddit, and now we wouldn't have this issue where reddit is almost "too big to fail".

So I may be too lazy to actively protest reddit, but saying my decision to "just fuck off" is the braver one because the protestors are "addicted"... I just disagree.

Capitalism says we're not supposed to have expectations of the giants who cannibalize their market. I disagree strongly.

What about the other side of the coin. People who run shelters and rescues who have their own (from experience) criticisms about PETA? I remember a friend of mine who ran a rescue and had to arrange night transportation for a tentatively homed animal because the PETA shelter was going to euthanize in the morning. She was fucking pissed at them. Oh, and they wouldn't stay open late for her to pick the dog up, and they wouldn't let her pick the dog up first thing in the morning when they opened.

In fact, I've had the opportunity to know a lot of people involved in volunteering/running shelters, and they are as disgusted at PETA as apparently the meat industry is. Accusations of laziness, disinterest in the well-being of individual animals, etc. I remember one of the people dealing with them tell me "I think they'd euthenize a cow to prevent me from buying a bottle of its milk".

Also, to point to the Chihuahua story (since I care about this one). Nobody who claims to care about animal welfare should be euthanizing animals on pickup because they were asked to by someone that isn't their owner. My fucking VET won't even euthanize a healthy dog, and will insist on rehoming it if the owner wants to get rid of it. As someone who has helped pick up stray animals to transport to a shelter, the disposition of the person requesting the pickup is always ignored. No, we will not put down that cat who had kittens in your wall. But we will take it away.

EDIT: Also, what about the AKC? People forget that it's not just the meat industry, but animal rescue and animal rights groups, that criticize PETA.

Unfortunately, there's a reason cult deprogrammers are heavily trained. If you're not an expert, the above behavior can have the opposite effect, helping reiterate to them that their crazy positions are actually reasonable and acceptable. The worst thing you can do to a cult member is acknowledge their beliefs respectfully. The second worst thing you can do is insult them. See the problem?

You have to use the gray rock method, and prove to them that you both disagree with them, and you are not their enemy.

This is the problem. When someone holds a belief that is not ok, telling them that is "ok" doesn't work. You'll be "one of the good ones", but it'll end there.

In fairness, I've got too many emergency workers in my family not to draw the line at fully blocking thoroughfares. Can you look an EMT in the eye who has had a patient die while their ambulence couldn't get through protestors to the hospital and insist you're in the right? Happens more than you'd want to know. Can't find statistics, but googling it shows just page upon page of different incidents, and unfortunately most of the time shit like that happens it isn't published since it's all HIPAA-complicated to discuss that stuff.

You want to inconvenience someone walking into a Macdonalds? Go ahead. But keep the artery roads clear. It's not about convenience, it's about shutting down life-saving infrastructure. Those assholes that cemented themselves to 93N in Boston 5 years back didn't earn any sympathy from anyone, even their own cause.

To simplify, the only way to get me not to stand beside you in defending your human rights is if you're recklessly taking away someone else's.

I couldn't disagree more. Self-harm is a common symptom of PTSD. Her experience reads like textbook workplace abuse leading to PTSD. Yes, a toxic work environment is absolutely a known cause for PTSD. So no, it is not an "extreme personality" to be driven to self-harm from a toxic work environment that involves instances of physical sexual harassment, belittling, and threats of firing.

This is where the victim rule comes in. She was (allegedly) victimized, and nothing about her story comes off as contrived or exaggerated. Nobody is saying to take LTT down and wipe them out, but like all victims who have come out she has the RIGHT to have her testimony taken at face value until or unless it is proven otherwise. Not in a court of law, but in the court of public opinion and people's opinions of her. And yes, that means until we know otherwise, it is reasonable to suspect LTT of this behavior, especially because it is compatible with everything else that's come out about them.

Socialism is when Democrats do things. Especially when they give things to people who aren't me. Doubly especially if they aren't white.

That's socialism. And Naziism.

(/s since Poe struck other people here already)

And let's not forget the polling. Over 94% voter turnout (or an illicit vote) and 98% voting for annexation? You can't even get 80% of people to vote for "don't shoot yourself in the face" and we're supposed to believe the annexation vote was near-unanimous?

The propagandists really should've made up a number closer to 60% with 85% turnout, enough that a majority of the population could be said to have voted for annexation, while still being believable.