Total monthly posts exploded after Spez enshitified Reddit, and is still growing steadily month over month.
That suggests that the current decline in monthly active users is primarily because lurkers who only came to lemmy after initially hearing about it on Reddit, went back to lurking Reddit.
The number of users that are contributors is still growing, and that’s what’s important.
I'm close to that too, but I think mine was 13 years. The weird thing that I've noticed is that most of the time I was on Reddit, almost no one I talked to in real life used Reddit. I struggled for years to try to get people to check the site out. Now that I left, I swear I hear someone I know mention Reddit exponentially more often. The average person doesn't give a damn about how shitty the platform has become, because they weren't around to see what it used to be. The average person WANTS to see ads interspersed with their cookie cutter content with stupid ass features like chat and followers. Good riddance.
Agreed. First they killed RedditGifts, then AMAs, then the up vote/down vote debacle, and when they took away my ability to use Relay is when I left. Screw them.
I'm a counter example. I contributed on Reddit, moderated my own subreddit with a couple of thousand viewers; couple of tens of contributors
I haven't been back to that sub, haven't appointed any other mods. If automod can't handle shit, shit isn't being handled
I have been back to other subs. There are small inoffensive places on Reddit that simply haven't moved
I still visit those subs, still write on them, just not nearly as often
Edit to add: checking today, those subs are becoming less good. With no good app, so many of the prolific commenters don't comment much now. I also had a reply to a 2015 comment I made. I thought stuff was auto-archived much quicker than that
I'm yet to encounter the majority of issues I hear Lemmings griping about. Everyone has been pretty civil toward me. Every time my inbox blows up I feel dread, only to open it and find zero confrontation or vitriol. I'm not running into any racists, sexists, bigots, etc., and I certainly haven't noticed a decline in content (I browse Top ~6 Hours).
I realize my personal experience doesn't equate to these problems not existing, but I do get the strong impression that people are exaggerating greatly.
Exactly my experience as well. Sure, I don't have infinite scroll, but I also don't feel like an algorithm is trying to make me angry. When I get responses, they're typically thoughtful or on topic.
I've been active for a month and in my opinion too many users have radicalised and extremist mindsets, but other than that it's alright.
Going back to reddit would mean to install that unbearable app they have and having to deal with incompetent admins, so I will stay here for some time.
I can see why it's off-putting for a lot of people though.
many users have radicalised and extremist mindsets,
I think thats the whole internet nowdays, unless you decide to exclusivelly consume cat content (and even then theres gonna be a way to jam in extremist political views by some nutter somehow).
Although i have to admit that the ones here are of a diferent breed than most, mainly tankies and people on that side of the compass (and yes they are very annoying about it).
One upside to lemmy is that ,at least up untill now,
the mods and admins are very neutral and i rarelly see deleted comments (or maybe they are hidden... i dunno) and that theres genuine free speech in here, i mean if you whant you can look at my comment history, i get downvoted to oblivion most of the time but my comments are still up and not censored.
Although there is this weird thing on other instances (im in sh.itjust.works and they dont do this i know i tryied it) that delete words on peoples comments and posts, mainly slurs and politically incorrect words. Really, i seen that some months before, dont know if it still like that now with the world users, but if you type something like fa***t in .world you will get "deleted" in that word specifically irc
I don't know how to feel about it, gives me some "spez editing the database to change comments" vibes.
I guess I would feel better to just get notified that my comment got removed.
Or is it just a displaying option based on the instance you logged in with and it gets filtered on the display side and a different instance user would still see the original?
Indeed it does, thats why i shit so much on political extremeism, it inevitably ends in censorship.
My advice would be that if it makes you feel uncomfortable (and you still whant to use lemmy), change instances, like i said, shit.just.works doesnt do that, dont know which other instances do and doesnt. I think lemmy.ml absolutelly does.
If you share a thought on a Biden/Trump thread, an Israel/Palestine thread, or another topic that attracts strong views, and your opinion is different than the hive, expect some vitriol and confrontation.
I've run into it while seriously looking for debate or productive conversation.
The same thing happens on Reddit, though. I think that's kind of just the internet from now on. /r/worldnews is literally just a pro-Israel, anti-Palestine echo chamber so it's nice to see another perspective on here. (I only browse Reddit at work not logged in for the record.) Over here, the hive mind on that seems to change thread to thread.
It's funny when the US does war in the middle east when a republican is president the media doesn't even cover it. At least not to the extent we do today. That's because Republicans are callous and could not give an ounce of fuck. The fact that people want to hold Biden to account should tell you everything you need to know about the two parties. Yes Biden sucks dick. Yes genocide is unacceptable no matter the people doing genocide. Only I'm voting along side the constituents that actually give a fuck.
And that is certainly not the GOP. They only care that it makes Biden look bad.
Hamas had human shields. What is there to argue about? Should we take innocent lives to punish the guilty? Doesn't sound like justice to me.
The world is a shit place. People are really flirting with the idea of fascism in America. Its insane but they are doing it. Americans are lucky now to have relatively peaceful lives despite corporations wanting to oppress them. Why we involved ourselves with the middle east is toothpaste we can't get back in the tube. At what point as Americans are we allowed to bow out of the discussion? To me, it's when we cast our ballot and its for the side that is the lesser evil. As individuals we are purposefully cut off from the reigns of power and until the people seize them again we have no choice but to keep making the humbling choice.
My only issue is the lack of small communities that get posts frequently, and yeah, duh, I should contribute, but theres only so much I can say about my transness.
One thing I miss about reddit is just being able to endlessly read about peoples experiences and stupid shitty trans memes, thats just missing here right now
Exactly this. My small Reddit communities had a few posts per day. The equivalent on Lemmy have a few per year. Still, I don’t miss them enough to go back.
I'm still seeing so much growth in new content and communities, idk if the raw number of users is the metric we even should care about. Is it the best measure of quality?
I also think a big part of it is how active users are counted. Saw in a different thread that it only counts accounts who have commented or posted in the last month. Well.. I browse and vote on probably an average of 30-50 posts and many of their comments every single day, but the last comment I left was over a month ago.
I also wonder if the active user count is counting people who made multiple accounts across different instances and was therefore always massively overinflated to begin with. I have 5 lemmy accounts - one on lemmy.world when I first joined, one on lemmynsfw for happy fun times, and 3 more trying to find a different instance with the de federation policy and hoster that I wanted after lemmy.world was going through their ddos downtime issue.
I mostly lurk, too, but enjoy being around my fellow Lemmings.
The only decline I have seen as someone who mostly lurks is in conservatives who thought this was the next Voat. After the surge I saw an uptick in all kinds of people, and a lot of them I don't mind seeing leave.
You don't need this lil slice of the internet to be the "next big thing", you just need a place to go to see the stuff you like.
Ya ever since everyone defederated from exploding heads there's definitely less of them. Maybe one day they'll create another instance. I hope they do, maybe a less transphobic conservative instance, just for the variety of people.
Long time lurker here, 99% of the time I go to post a comment I delete it before posting like ah fuck it. I'm trying to engage a bit more now there are more users.
So, following the 90/9/1 rule, 90% lurk, 9% comment, 1% create content, we are primarily losing from the 90%? That seems to be a good thing for the long-term. As long as we aren't losing from the 1% I'd say we're good
lurkers are also not counted in this statistics. ifaik only active users who are posting or commenting are counted. so there might be more users out there who are active and just lurking and they are not counted.
I feel I have better engagement here. It is still missing some more niche communities that Reddit had, and I'm trying to be active to grow them, but it has been slow.
Yeah, it's plain to see that engagement is steadily climbing. The top posts keep getting higher and higher numbers and new, interesting communities keep popping up.
I choose to misrepresent your argument, attack it, and then declare myself the winner. I also refer to you as "slick" throughout and finish every sentence with :-)
Exactly, lemmy needs to grow but if it just continues to grow and grow eventually it will just turn into what reddit is now. I'm happy to have something small to be a part of for now.... i don't think you needed me to tell you this but they say commenting is good for lemmy, so here i am
honestly it's replaced reddit for me in a good way, because it has just enough new content that I can check it before bed every day and scroll for a bit, but not enough to where I spend entire lunch breaks on it. sometimes I go days without even checking it. if anything it's made my relationship with my browser / phone healthier than reddit.
Give yourself some grace, yes corporate social media is addictive and yes it is easy to get lost mindlessly scrolling but the important question to ask is why is your brain so exhausted and stressed that mindlessly scrolling is the only thing you really have the mental energy to do so much of the time?
Western society repeatedly slams through the narrative that social media addiction is the reason people are miserable and it is all a pathetic attempt to distract us from the fact that our lives suck because of actual horrible things like not being able to afford rent, being in endless debt, not being able to afford healthcare and any number of other awful stresses.
If you need to blob out and scroll after getting out of your shitty job that pays shit where you are treated like shit and sitting in shitty traffic on the way home for who knows how long that’s on society for only providing predatory options that abuse you.
For a lot of people the only thing they actually have the energy to do after work every night is mindlessly scroll, it is a grace that people at least have that to turn to even if it is predatory. It is a symptom not the core issue.
Also true. And there are plenty of worthwhile/educational things to be found on the apps that can help a bit more than they harm. But yeah, it being a symptom is spot on.
I just discovered Lemmy, and I'm so happy about it. Instagram replaced Reddit for me these last five months, and I can really feel how detrimental it is for me. It's like an ADHD-machine.
No community, no discussion, just this as quick and loud phase as possible vibe. You look through one recipe video and you get recipes for several days. People dancing and dancing with huge smiles and these creepy eyes. Honestly it's all so dystopian.
So keeping on with Instagram is not an option, going back to reddit is not an option - and I was really considering becoming like this person who is never in his phone, really mentally healthy, but wildly uninformed about the world and the general discussion 😅
The feel of this place with the Sync app is just so * chefs kiss *.
Feels like what reddit was.
100%, all I really want is something I can look at and perhaps sensibly chuckle at when I have a few minutes... Not a pasasitic brain worm that really wants me to pay attention to it.
But hey, apparently that's enough, I haven't been bored on Lemmy yet. And as the enshittification of Reddit continues there might well be some other exodus.
Every time I go to check out reddit, I am shocked by how many right-wing psychos there are. I don't bother commenting anymore because there's so much vitriol there.
Nah, fuck spez forever. That sentiment should never die. I hope a decade after reddit goes bankrupt, he can't leave his home without getting the phrase screamed at him
We can decide to never go back to our ex and also warn others if it comes up, while still moving on with our lives. However, if we're just bringing it up out of nowhere, we're still hung up on them.
I mean, would you call this post 'content'? It's just low-effort, non-discussion-provoking, nothingness about a platform that nobody around here cares about anymore (except you apparently?)
You literally repost AI generated images, you dont even possess the originality to come up with your own prompt Lmao and you've never even made a post with over 1k upvotes. Git gud
I saw a discussion the other day that may have been part of it. They were pointing out that many users when first joining lemmy created accounts on multiple instances. Whether they needed to find a community they preferred or do to ddos attacks and other issues causing outages a lot of those accounts have likely become inactive more as time went by. So the numbers may not be decreasing so much as been inflated by individuals coming up as multiple active users early on. I haven't looked into how they are verifying what users are active though, so it could be wrong. If someone knows more please respond.
As far as I have heard, "activeness" is measured by whether a user posted a comment/post the past month, so lurkers/voters are not being counted. This does likely skew the numbers quite a bit.
I was on this really great cyberpunk / LGBT instance called DATATERM.digital. It was even advertised on the joinlemmy page. However it disappeared without a trace and there is no word on it ever coming back :( I haven't found another one where I felt at home.
Honestly, good. The Internet was better when people were spread out across many small message board and chat rooms. The golden age of the Internet was when you'd do a search for something and 500 different forms and little websites would pop up.
Now's it's all reddit, "X," and shitty corporate owned nonsense. We turned 2020 Internet into 90's cable TV.
Gonna add a comment to my upvote: I agree with this so fucking much. I look back at the joyous days when I had... fuck if I know how many websites, each dedicated to its own thing, most with its own userbase, so unique and so defined. The only good thing about Reddit for me was gaming communities that, unfortunately, replaced actual forums that once allowed me to engage with passionate people and look for relevant info, even if it's been years since its creation.
It's probably just me being unaware, but gaming communities these days feel dead outside their respective subreddits and some Discord servers - and the latter is an even worse experience because the form factor of an endless IRC-clone that actually seems to save chat history is pretty fucking dumb more than it is convenient. If anyone has any suggestions there, shoot.
On Reddit it got so bad I stopped responding to replies entirely. I'm still not very regular about that, but whenever I check now, I'm shocked to find I'm not just getting blindly downvoted for potentially contraversial statements. It feels like a really good sign to me - progress in an era of downward spirals as low effort people all over the world spew their nonsense on everything.
I treat Reddit like I treat twitter. When something happens, I look at it to get a read on the situation, or what people are saying or whatever. But I otherwise totally ignore it now.
A year ago, I couldn't go an hour without looking at Reddit.
My mental health is so much better than when i scrolled reddit. Everyone here is so nice and doesn't talk like 14 year olds with an ego. Also theres front page furry porn
I also find the limited number of posts and comments keep me at a healthy level of browsing. On Reddit I could get sucked down the rabbit hole of even one post, reading comments and replying to stuff for hours. There’s really very little of value that can ever be accomplished at that depth.
I agree with this, and on top of that the lack of infinite scroll is a feature to me because it requires me to deliberately consider each post before the next page rather than just spamming downward looking for that next dopamine hit.
which is the reason why some people don't move to it.
If the first, there are other bad/tracking/adware things that people use and the people that try to help have a helpful tone. But for windows, people that 'try to help' always talk in a blaming tone and act like "I'm superior than you bc i use linux"
Or if the second
Bc you need some help to figure out Linux but if the community that is supposed to help act like that would people move?
I think you can find some jerks in any community, it's people. But I doubt that GNU/Linux enthusiasts hate people for using Windows in general. I personally a GNU/Linux user and I never hate people for using Windows.
It's just like Reddit - they have more content, but we prefer Lemmy because of freedom. And we hate Reddit (and spez), not it's users.
Agreed, I went on reddit recently and realized how much anxiety it used to cause me. Fuck that place. There is definitely something to their algorithm meant to make you feel that way.
Not really if you get into political talk, you will be shit talked into oblivion, and in the subject of pornography, i find the one here on lemmynsfw bland af, its mostly tje same chicks posting over and over again. But other than that I have seen before complaints from people on the lemmy.nsfw community that they are surprisingly puritan with the nsfw content allowed, and if you look for that type of content you will realize that its true, like i can think of various extreme fetishes that are banned that i rather not type here in public, but some that are more perplexing are like csncs, which its just a type of roleplay between 2 consenting adults and thats banned for some reason, and rape hentai, while i understeand while that would be controversial, its still a fetish sone people would have and its in draw form so no harm done to anyone, also some other gross stuff that nobody likes like scat or guro (drawn ofc)
Which like i said nobody whants to watch those last 2 except for the people that do and there even are comunities of those in reddit, so its very weird that there arent any equivalents here.
(Btw when i say banned i mean that they dont allow comunities that post that type of content.)
(And before you ask no im not into any of that type of the aformentioned shit)
Now you could say "well change instances", but i heard bad things from the other ones here that do allow some of that stuff, specially the hentai focused ones, which i heard are mainly legally dubius shit and a little dangerous to go there so i rather look for porn/hentai somewhere els
I love how so many of us former reddit lurkers found a home on Lemmy/the fediverse. I have absolutely loved being a part of the greater community here, I don't know how else to describe it but it feels like my Internet home. I love all you fellow nerds. Obligatory fuck spez.
I still love Lemmy. It's nice to be able to post or comment without getting an automated response telling you you're doing 15 things wrongs for trying to participate like happens on schmeddit.
Was there some stat released somewhere showing lemmy "losing users"? I'm pretty new and plan on sticking around, the quality here is infinitely better than reddit.
Lemmy really feels like early Reddit right now. I mean that in a good way. And not to flex but I'm saying that as someone with a 16 year old Reddit account haha.
Same here. I feel Reddit changed for the worse so slowly that I had completely forgotten what the glory days were like until I came to Lemmy. I forgot that there was actual discussion in the comments rather than the same ten lazy comments ad naseum.
I'm kinda surprised Lemmy is losing users since it feels like there is more engagement since I joined earlier this year.
Some of you who are complaining Lemmy are seeing though rose-tinted glasses about what reddit was like back in the day. The majority of the site was never good, and it had always had plenty of embarassing/messed up things on there that you had to sift through, but it's a different, sterile kind of bad now.
Here are a couple of reminders of what reddit was actually like, in no particular order.
Ron Paul
Faces of Atheism, "Euphoric"
AdviceAnimals, Rage Comics
Spacedicks
r/jailbait
The entire Boston bomber saga
This is why I would never admit to using reddit in public, and until recent years, I would imagine most people won't.
So if anyone complains about how the current content on Lemmy is driving people away, remember, Lemmy is positively TAME compared to this supposedly "Golden Era" of reddit.
Even when I'm not active on Lemmy, I am not on Reddit.
If I ever need information from Reddit (unfortunately there is still a lot of information only on Reddit...), Wayback machine I go.
Even if me requesting that Wayback machine archive a page, once it's saved we don't need to give reddit anymore clicks, Wayback machine gets the clicks instead. It's better than losing information outright.
I never used Reddit other than the rare view via a search-engine when trying to find something. I now lurk Lemmy daily but barely ever post. I read so many enlightening things here. Not leaving.
I never posted on Reddit, I only commented, because every time I posted anything, someone would come be an asshole about it. Here tho, I've been posting a lot more than I ever did and I don't get abused for it, unless that was my intent.
I some times feel a bit alone on lemmy solely because I'm not as tech inclined as a lot of the userbase, but it's reminders like this that make me feel a bit ok about it.
That's ok. I use Windows instead of Linux and I like it here since it's not the endless circlejerk that mainstream reddit with all the influencer posts and bot accounts currently is. Lemmy feels like a village to me, while reddit is the dystopian hellscape from bladerunner.
I just check every few hours instead of doomscrolling. It'd be nice to have more content and more active niche communities, but somehow I think this is better for me lmao. Anyways it feels cozier but not on the decline imo
I'm actually, honestly enjoying this more. Yes, pretty much every niche community I joined has died now, and that's unfortunate, but it's quite certainly alive anyway.
Reminds me a bit of earlier Digg, and the culture here varies a lot but I see a wide range of political opinion and cultural frames of reference compared to what Reddit was, which was a near monoculture.
I prefer this not being guided by a single company.
Something I used to do on Reddit was find a new community, and binge the top posts from the last year. I've started being able to do that on Lemmy, which is a huge win in my books
well said. it's not about quantity, it's about quality. and spez enshittified Reddit because of greed, we shouldn't be greedy ourselves, or Lemmy will get enshittified too.
i would like to slowly make it cozy and happy here, we shouldn't be competing against Reddit, because Lemmy is something different.
any nice user is welcome, please don't make them feel guilty for being on Reddit too. we will slowly make a nice transition so people have the option to being their stuff here if they want, which is what we need. no rupturism, please.
i think we should be welcoming, not warmongering. this was made for users, not against spez. it's totally different.
spez can go and screw himself, i prefer to appreciate those who do good than to mourn about those who do wrong.
don't waste energies on destructivity, spend them on constructivity.
don't compare to Reddit, compare to Lemmy on July, to Lemmy now, to what Lemmy could be if we work together.
don't get anxious about growing. focus on 'growing nice' instead of 'growing more'.
we will make it. for sure. and it will be great.
have a nice day.
edit: i realize the 'not against spez' could have been worded better. what i try to say is that i prefer to focus my energies on nice people than bad people. i suffered already a lot bc of bad people and i prefer to spend my life supporting nice folks. sorry for the confusion.
As soon as reddit links fall out of Google, I won't even have to think about seeing it anymore. I also have it DNSBlocked because that's the only way I am going to stay off of it. X too.
All I know as I get to know lemmy using sync I'm a little frustrated because my feed is limited and doesn't let me infinitely scroll and it only updates like once a day which is frustrating because I would scroll forever if I could. But it doesn't let me. It dead ends Then there are simply no posts. I have to come back the next day. perhaps this is built-in on purpose to make sure we don't spend & lose our lives here.
Oh, that's what it is. I've taken the approach that on lemmy it's better to browse all and block almost everything than it is to see nothing on subscribed. That said, I wish it was easier to block instances and people. It takes, like, 4 clicks and is a pain.
Takes a while but pays off eventually. So many German instances. So much kinky anime*. Who knew there were that many sports teams?
It does let interesting ones filter through from time to time. I subscribe to those and figure in a thousand years I'll have a feed like I used to on reddit.
*I don't mind some kink, but man, that's some bent shit.
I browse lemmy a lot on mobile. When I first looked into lemmy mobile clients, they were read only.
This post inspired me to get Sync 4 Lemmy, now I'll be commenting much more (careful what you wish for haha as I'm sure I will have opinions some don't agree with, but hopefully can always debate rationally)
anyone who wants to leave can go. Hell, I'm responsible for two of the lost users because when i first came over here I misunderstood how this works and made a new account on each instance. what's up @[email protected] and @[email protected]?
I actually don't care about what reddit did. But I care about that the client is so much faster without all the ads, bloat they put in. Here Lemmy wins and it is Reddit fault they are so greedy and not caring about the user.
Yeah, I saw that again the other day and could not care less. I love the Lemmy mobile apps, and there's nothing good left for Reddit in that area.
I actually was kind of annoyed the first week of Lemmy. It felt like a lot of keyboard warriors came over. It doesn't feel as much like that any longer. I think if anyone didn't stick around, it was the loud people pretending they were stronger than their addictions.
Good riddance, this is a much more chill crowd now. Maybe it's just a bunch of old people... But eh, I'm old. We can all be old together now. Just stay the fuck off my lawn, and by that I mean the grass outside my apartment complex.
If anything, I feel a lot more calmer and more at peace when reading Lemmy threads. I find the people here are the reasonable ones, and all the other maggots seemed to stay on Reddit. Which I'm super ok with.
Now and then you'll see someone who just goes thermonuclear on the first response to one of their comments, but they are far and few between. They all seem to eventually go back to Reddit, thankfully. Maybe because they can't get the endorphin rush that they crave here.
This period of peace won't probably last long, but I'm enjoying it while I can.
People are not moving to decentralized platforms yet, as they wish to empower those who are exploiting them more first whether they realize this or not.
Or at least, if you visit reddit, don't click on any ads or contribute in a meaningful way. In addition, never directly link to reddit. In a way, all your actions that affect reddit in any way should be to the detriment of reddit. It's like trying to cut down a sequoia with a sharp pebble, but even small livestock shits.
As a fediverse weird thing, aside from the log in process, using eternity is just wonderful. I left when infinity started requiring a subscription and this has been great, aside from the lack of content. I don't ever have to the think of anything after the @
I've noticed that Lemmy has been shedding a lot of the Reddit style toxicity that was brought here from the influx. Presumably that has something to do with the terminally on Reddit people leaving.
And blocking is great! I've blocked many spam bots, people with hateful comments, entire communities because I don't speak their language or just don't have interest in their content (no OFFENSE to THE PACK you guys ARE SO COOL AND BADASS but that kind of humor doesn't appeal to me 90% of the time, no offense to sports fans but if I'm not actively playing it, I don't want to watch it)
But if it's a power user, it's really hard to get away from, and you can block them and all 15 of their alts but people still talk about some of them.
So you can prevent them from contacting you, and you can prevent either of you from seeing each other's posts and comments, but you can't completely get away from everyone.
I recently made a meme about this phenomena. A lot of these soap box memes just state something everyone here likes with an image underneath. I find it a bit pandering but apparently people like it.
Reddit is for Porn. I got my year-thing and scrolled for 2 million bananas. I’m only subscribed to Porn and have been clicking on 1 or 2 things from MapPorn that got suggested to me while browsing through the ad-infested home feed. Have a guess on what they said was the post I liked more than the "The Gorilla Grip and Twist 5000“ I’ve spent months watching.
Unfortunately I go there still anonymously for when I need help or advice on certain life things, but I browse in a social media sense on Lemmy.
I've said this before: if there was a way to create more discoverability of Lemmy through a search engine, I'd choose it over reddit. Lemmy has different domain names based on server/instance, and that makes wild card searching impossible.
I know there are other search engines out there specifically for Lemmy, but that doesn't work for me.
It's just a lot of work to filter the commie/socialist/libtard nonsense. Once you get most of the propaganda sludge blocked, it's actually pretty decent.
Total monthly posts exploded after Spez enshitified Reddit, and is still growing steadily month over month.
That suggests that the current decline in monthly active users is primarily because lurkers who only came to lemmy after initially hearing about it on Reddit, went back to lurking Reddit.
The number of users that are contributors is still growing, and that’s what’s important.
Thanks for the positive news!!
There’s also folks like me who came, 15 years on Reddit and I haven’t been back.
Those of us who actually interacted with the platform and left aren’t going back.
I'm close to that too, but I think mine was 13 years. The weird thing that I've noticed is that most of the time I was on Reddit, almost no one I talked to in real life used Reddit. I struggled for years to try to get people to check the site out. Now that I left, I swear I hear someone I know mention Reddit exponentially more often. The average person doesn't give a damn about how shitty the platform has become, because they weren't around to see what it used to be. The average person WANTS to see ads interspersed with their cookie cutter content with stupid ass features like chat and followers. Good riddance.
Same, 13 years redditor here. And since I came to Lemmy in June, I posted over 1k posts because I love this platform and want it to grow. Fuck reddit.
Yup, that's me, too.
Agreed. First they killed RedditGifts, then AMAs, then the up vote/down vote debacle, and when they took away my ability to use Relay is when I left. Screw them.
I'm a counter example. I contributed on Reddit, moderated my own subreddit with a couple of thousand viewers; couple of tens of contributors
I haven't been back to that sub, haven't appointed any other mods. If automod can't handle shit, shit isn't being handled
I have been back to other subs. There are small inoffensive places on Reddit that simply haven't moved
I still visit those subs, still write on them, just not nearly as often
Edit to add: checking today, those subs are becoming less good. With no good app, so many of the prolific commenters don't comment much now. I also had a reply to a 2015 comment I made. I thought stuff was auto-archived much quicker than that
My Reddit account was 12 years old. I'm staying on Lemmy forever, monthly active users be damned.
I'm yet to encounter the majority of issues I hear Lemmings griping about. Everyone has been pretty civil toward me. Every time my inbox blows up I feel dread, only to open it and find zero confrontation or vitriol. I'm not running into any racists, sexists, bigots, etc., and I certainly haven't noticed a decline in content (I browse Top ~6 Hours).
I realize my personal experience doesn't equate to these problems not existing, but I do get the strong impression that people are exaggerating greatly.
Exactly my experience as well. Sure, I don't have infinite scroll, but I also don't feel like an algorithm is trying to make me angry. When I get responses, they're typically thoughtful or on topic.
Depends on the client you are using.
For phone or tablets try using the Voyager native app.
For browser try m.lemmy.world which is just the web version of Voyager.
There are other clients like old.lemmy.world for that “authentic” feel.
I've been active for a month and in my opinion too many users have radicalised and extremist mindsets, but other than that it's alright.
Going back to reddit would mean to install that unbearable app they have and having to deal with incompetent admins, so I will stay here for some time.
I can see why it's off-putting for a lot of people though.
I think thats the whole internet nowdays, unless you decide to exclusivelly consume cat content (and even then theres gonna be a way to jam in extremist political views by some nutter somehow).
Although i have to admit that the ones here are of a diferent breed than most, mainly tankies and people on that side of the compass (and yes they are very annoying about it).
One upside to lemmy is that ,at least up untill now, the mods and admins are very neutral and i rarelly see deleted comments (or maybe they are hidden... i dunno) and that theres genuine free speech in here, i mean if you whant you can look at my comment history, i get downvoted to oblivion most of the time but my comments are still up and not censored.
Although there is this weird thing on other instances (im in sh.itjust.works and they dont do this i know i tryied it) that delete words on peoples comments and posts, mainly slurs and politically incorrect words. Really, i seen that some months before, dont know if it still like that now with the world users, but if you type something like fa***t in .world you will get "deleted" in that word specifically irc
Do I understand it correct that the comment would stay but the word would get censored?
Yes, try it if you whant, my instance does allow that type of words.
Dont know about yours though.
You can always delete it after the fact if it makes you uncomfortable having it in your comment history
I don't know how to feel about it, gives me some "spez editing the database to change comments" vibes.
I guess I would feel better to just get notified that my comment got removed.
Or is it just a displaying option based on the instance you logged in with and it gets filtered on the display side and a different instance user would still see the original?
Indeed it does, thats why i shit so much on political extremeism, it inevitably ends in censorship.
My advice would be that if it makes you feel uncomfortable (and you still whant to use lemmy), change instances, like i said, shit.just.works doesnt do that, dont know which other instances do and doesnt. I think lemmy.ml absolutelly does.
If you share a thought on a Biden/Trump thread, an Israel/Palestine thread, or another topic that attracts strong views, and your opinion is different than the hive, expect some vitriol and confrontation.
I've run into it while seriously looking for debate or productive conversation.
The same thing happens on Reddit, though. I think that's kind of just the internet from now on. /r/worldnews is literally just a pro-Israel, anti-Palestine echo chamber so it's nice to see another perspective on here. (I only browse Reddit at work not logged in for the record.) Over here, the hive mind on that seems to change thread to thread.
It's funny when the US does war in the middle east when a republican is president the media doesn't even cover it. At least not to the extent we do today. That's because Republicans are callous and could not give an ounce of fuck. The fact that people want to hold Biden to account should tell you everything you need to know about the two parties. Yes Biden sucks dick. Yes genocide is unacceptable no matter the people doing genocide. Only I'm voting along side the constituents that actually give a fuck.
And that is certainly not the GOP. They only care that it makes Biden look bad.
Hamas had human shields. What is there to argue about? Should we take innocent lives to punish the guilty? Doesn't sound like justice to me.
The world is a shit place. People are really flirting with the idea of fascism in America. Its insane but they are doing it. Americans are lucky now to have relatively peaceful lives despite corporations wanting to oppress them. Why we involved ourselves with the middle east is toothpaste we can't get back in the tube. At what point as Americans are we allowed to bow out of the discussion? To me, it's when we cast our ballot and its for the side that is the lesser evil. As individuals we are purposefully cut off from the reigns of power and until the people seize them again we have no choice but to keep making the humbling choice.
My only issue is the lack of small communities that get posts frequently, and yeah, duh, I should contribute, but theres only so much I can say about my transness.
One thing I miss about reddit is just being able to endlessly read about peoples experiences and stupid shitty trans memes, thats just missing here right now
Exactly this. My small Reddit communities had a few posts per day. The equivalent on Lemmy have a few per year. Still, I don’t miss them enough to go back.
Yeah I'm not going back, just had to substitute with some discord servers so I'm not tempted. After that, I'm good lol
I'm still seeing so much growth in new content and communities, idk if the raw number of users is the metric we even should care about. Is it the best measure of quality?
I also think a big part of it is how active users are counted. Saw in a different thread that it only counts accounts who have commented or posted in the last month. Well.. I browse and vote on probably an average of 30-50 posts and many of their comments every single day, but the last comment I left was over a month ago.
I also wonder if the active user count is counting people who made multiple accounts across different instances and was therefore always massively overinflated to begin with. I have 5 lemmy accounts - one on lemmy.world when I first joined, one on lemmynsfw for happy fun times, and 3 more trying to find a different instance with the de federation policy and hoster that I wanted after lemmy.world was going through their ddos downtime issue.
I mostly lurk or comment like this but I’ve found the community to be much better over here. I can’t see myself going back.
I mostly lurk, too, but enjoy being around my fellow Lemmings.
The only decline I have seen as someone who mostly lurks is in conservatives who thought this was the next Voat. After the surge I saw an uptick in all kinds of people, and a lot of them I don't mind seeing leave.
You don't need this lil slice of the internet to be the "next big thing", you just need a place to go to see the stuff you like.
Ya ever since everyone defederated from exploding heads there's definitely less of them. Maybe one day they'll create another instance. I hope they do, maybe a less transphobic conservative instance, just for the variety of people.
Long time lurker here, 99% of the time I go to post a comment I delete it before posting like ah fuck it. I'm trying to engage a bit more now there are more users.
I feel like content is always getting better too
So, following the 90/9/1 rule, 90% lurk, 9% comment, 1% create content, we are primarily losing from the 90%? That seems to be a good thing for the long-term. As long as we aren't losing from the 1% I'd say we're good
lurkers are also not counted in this statistics. ifaik only active users who are posting or commenting are counted. so there might be more users out there who are active and just lurking and they are not counted.
I'm still lurking here!
I feel I have better engagement here. It is still missing some more niche communities that Reddit had, and I'm trying to be active to grow them, but it has been slow.
Yeah, it's plain to see that engagement is steadily climbing. The top posts keep getting higher and higher numbers and new, interesting communities keep popping up.
Are active users classified as posting or does just logging in count?
Smaller communities aren't necessarily a bad thing. Compared to reddit I rarely feel like I'm commenting into the void.
Or into the thunderdome where no matter what you say, someone will fight you for it
Them's fightin' words, pal!
Don’t call me buddy, guy!
I'm not your guy, friend!
I'm not your friend, my enemy!
I'm not your enemy, darling !
im no buddy of yours bucko
I disagree!
No you don’t
Actually, he does, and you look really stupid right now for thinking otherwise.
Here's a link I haven't researched to prove it.
That disagrees with my worldview and despite being definite proof I refuse to acknowledge it, stupid head
I choose to misrepresent your argument, attack it, and then declare myself the winner. I also refer to you as "slick" throughout and finish every sentence with :-)
I disagree with your statement that claims that @killeronthecorner doesn't disagree with @damage.
Exactly, lemmy needs to grow but if it just continues to grow and grow eventually it will just turn into what reddit is now. I'm happy to have something small to be a part of for now.... i don't think you needed me to tell you this but they say commenting is good for lemmy, so here i am
What's the easiest way to find communities across different instances? If I could figure that out, I would just forget about reddit.
I use an external Lemmy instance list.
Ive seen that in reddit shadowbanning is rampant on new accounts, so mayve that has to do with something. Specially if you have been banned before.
honestly it's replaced reddit for me in a good way, because it has just enough new content that I can check it before bed every day and scroll for a bit, but not enough to where I spend entire lunch breaks on it. sometimes I go days without even checking it. if anything it's made my relationship with my browser / phone healthier than reddit.
Exactly. Lemmy is an anti-doomscrolling platform and that's very healthy and amazing.
I somehow replaced reddit with instagram reels and youtube shorts.
Ah, they got ya by the dopamine balls
Yeah they do. Would you believe me if i said giving up social media is harder than giving up nicotine?
Give yourself some grace, yes corporate social media is addictive and yes it is easy to get lost mindlessly scrolling but the important question to ask is why is your brain so exhausted and stressed that mindlessly scrolling is the only thing you really have the mental energy to do so much of the time?
Western society repeatedly slams through the narrative that social media addiction is the reason people are miserable and it is all a pathetic attempt to distract us from the fact that our lives suck because of actual horrible things like not being able to afford rent, being in endless debt, not being able to afford healthcare and any number of other awful stresses.
If you need to blob out and scroll after getting out of your shitty job that pays shit where you are treated like shit and sitting in shitty traffic on the way home for who knows how long that’s on society for only providing predatory options that abuse you.
For a lot of people the only thing they actually have the energy to do after work every night is mindlessly scroll, it is a grace that people at least have that to turn to even if it is predatory. It is a symptom not the core issue.
Also true. And there are plenty of worthwhile/educational things to be found on the apps that can help a bit more than they harm. But yeah, it being a symptom is spot on.
I just discovered Lemmy, and I'm so happy about it. Instagram replaced Reddit for me these last five months, and I can really feel how detrimental it is for me. It's like an ADHD-machine. No community, no discussion, just this as quick and loud phase as possible vibe. You look through one recipe video and you get recipes for several days. People dancing and dancing with huge smiles and these creepy eyes. Honestly it's all so dystopian.
So keeping on with Instagram is not an option, going back to reddit is not an option - and I was really considering becoming like this person who is never in his phone, really mentally healthy, but wildly uninformed about the world and the general discussion 😅
The feel of this place with the Sync app is just so * chefs kiss *. Feels like what reddit was.
Horseshit. Lemmy is plastered in content about climate change, the Middle East, and other depressing shit.
I think they mean doom scrolling as in algorithmic dopamine loops
Exactly, and that the content eventually just ends. I didn't mean that every post is positive news.
Doomscrolling does not literally mean your feed is full of negative content lol, it's just mindless scrolling
Filter that shit out then, that's what I did.
100%, all I really want is something I can look at and perhaps sensibly chuckle at when I have a few minutes... Not a pasasitic brain worm that really wants me to pay attention to it.
The only problem I have, is that I can't seem to find the porn.
There's an entire instance dedicated to it: lemmynsfw.com
I tried, but they never approved my account. I know they do it in waves, but I applied a month ago
There's hundreds of us! Hundreds!
But hey, apparently that's enough, I haven't been bored on Lemmy yet. And as the enshittification of Reddit continues there might well be some other exodus.
Honestly there are enough quality posts and comments here that keep me engaged. It feels like a lot of creative people made the move.
Every time I go to check out reddit, I am shocked by how many right-wing psychos there are. I don't bother commenting anymore because there's so much vitriol there.
Reddit is like that ex the whole lemmy isn't over yet while loudly drunkenly screaming "I'm so over them!".
Advice: focus on yourself and your content.
o7
Nah, fuck spez forever. That sentiment should never die. I hope a decade after reddit goes bankrupt, he can't leave his home without getting the phrase screamed at him
We can decide to never go back to our ex and also warn others if it comes up, while still moving on with our lives. However, if we're just bringing it up out of nowhere, we're still hung up on them.
Also: focus on yourself and you're content 👍
Also: focus on yourself and you’re incontinent
Also: focus on your shelf in another continent
Also: it's Istanbul, not Constantinople, man.
Oh, it changed?
Also: get an oil change, it's due soon.
This isn't a good analogy at all.
If it should be forcibly used, like, reddit is an ex, then fuck no we're not over that ex. They took our home that we built and destroyed it.
Bruh you've only ever posted once, you should focus on trying to make content and posting it on lemmy, instead of criticizing those of us who are.
I mean, would you call this post 'content'? It's just low-effort, non-discussion-provoking, nothingness about a platform that nobody around here cares about anymore (except you apparently?)
Says the user with zero posts. And all the people upvoting it apparently do. Bahahaha
What can we do to get you to go back to Reddit?
Not a damn thing. Zero posts not surprised. Reddit definitely doesnt miss you.
Dont worry, I'll keep posting content for you to engage with.
Most of the stuff you post is low quality shite mate not "content" it's mainly 99% vague political memes. this shite makes up 90% of lemmy
You literally repost AI generated images, you dont even possess the originality to come up with your own prompt Lmao and you've never even made a post with over 1k upvotes. Git gud
cringe af
Dont care, dude implied nonone cares about my posts, thousands of upvotes beg to differ. Cringe or notz i post shit people engage with.
Being on Lemmy make me realise I was addicted to the front page of r*ddit having something new everytime I refreshed
Now I sort by top/6hours - reduced my screen time and see more quality things
It will be sad if peoples leave but if the top stay It is enough
This is exactly what I do! And I’ve also noticed how much more time I’ve spent doing other things as opposed to doomscrolling.
Yes. I feel like I’m finally sorting between the addiction I developed to “content” on Reddit and the interaction that makes sites like this great.
Lemmy is the Nicolette of reddit
Lurker here. This is my first post. I ain't leaving either.
I saw a discussion the other day that may have been part of it. They were pointing out that many users when first joining lemmy created accounts on multiple instances. Whether they needed to find a community they preferred or do to ddos attacks and other issues causing outages a lot of those accounts have likely become inactive more as time went by. So the numbers may not be decreasing so much as been inflated by individuals coming up as multiple active users early on. I haven't looked into how they are verifying what users are active though, so it could be wrong. If someone knows more please respond.
As far as I have heard, "activeness" is measured by whether a user posted a comment/post the past month, so lurkers/voters are not being counted. This does likely skew the numbers quite a bit.
EDIT: Found this nice answer from ~5 months ago. Yup, it appears to only count post+comment and leaves out voters and lurkers. :(
I was on this really great cyberpunk / LGBT instance called DATATERM.digital. It was even advertised on the joinlemmy page. However it disappeared without a trace and there is no word on it ever coming back :( I haven't found another one where I felt at home.
Honestly, good. The Internet was better when people were spread out across many small message board and chat rooms. The golden age of the Internet was when you'd do a search for something and 500 different forms and little websites would pop up.
Now's it's all reddit, "X," and shitty corporate owned nonsense. We turned 2020 Internet into 90's cable TV.
Gonna add a comment to my upvote: I agree with this so fucking much. I look back at the joyous days when I had... fuck if I know how many websites, each dedicated to its own thing, most with its own userbase, so unique and so defined. The only good thing about Reddit for me was gaming communities that, unfortunately, replaced actual forums that once allowed me to engage with passionate people and look for relevant info, even if it's been years since its creation.
It's probably just me being unaware, but gaming communities these days feel dead outside their respective subreddits and some Discord servers - and the latter is an even worse experience because the form factor of an endless IRC-clone that actually seems to save chat history is pretty fucking dumb more than it is convenient. If anyone has any suggestions there, shoot.
Lemmy is losing users, but Reddit is using losers.
Let's be honest it works for memes. Memes are 99% of the time just reposted garbage anyways.
For everything else though, I agree. Bots shouldn't be used
I'm fine with the post especially in niche communities just to keep them alive. But yeah comments seem useless.
One of the best things I've done is to uncheck "show bot accounts" in settings.
On Reddit it got so bad I stopped responding to replies entirely. I'm still not very regular about that, but whenever I check now, I'm shocked to find I'm not just getting blindly downvoted for potentially contraversial statements. It feels like a really good sign to me - progress in an era of downward spirals as low effort people all over the world spew their nonsense on everything.
I treat Reddit like I treat twitter. When something happens, I look at it to get a read on the situation, or what people are saying or whatever. But I otherwise totally ignore it now.
A year ago, I couldn't go an hour without looking at Reddit.
To be honest I kind of like it here.
My mental health is so much better than when i scrolled reddit. Everyone here is so nice and doesn't talk like 14 year olds with an ego. Also theres front page furry porn
I also find the limited number of posts and comments keep me at a healthy level of browsing. On Reddit I could get sucked down the rabbit hole of even one post, reading comments and replying to stuff for hours. There’s really very little of value that can ever be accomplished at that depth.
Me too man. I had a really unhealthy Reddit problem.
Theses days, after about an hour of scrolling I’m out of content, which feels sensible.
I agree with this, and on top of that the lack of infinite scroll is a feature to me because it requires me to deliberately consider each post before the next page rather than just spamming downward looking for that next dopamine hit.
Until you mention Windows.
Even then, they're trying to help you.
Rarely. Mostly it's just anger, which is the reason why some people don't move to it.
Did you find this out by asking them?
This
Or this
If the first, there are other bad/tracking/adware things that people use and the people that try to help have a helpful tone. But for windows, people that 'try to help' always talk in a blaming tone and act like "I'm superior than you bc i use linux"
Or if the second
Bc you need some help to figure out Linux but if the community that is supposed to help act like that would people move?
I have never hated Linux more than now
I use arch, btw
I don't think they criticize people for using Windows. I bet that no one wanted to offend you.
People do criticize Windows itself and I think it's okay.
Idk people criticize most of the bad things. but when it is windows, things change a bit.
I think you can find some jerks in any community, it's people. But I doubt that GNU/Linux enthusiasts hate people for using Windows in general. I personally a GNU/Linux user and I never hate people for using Windows.
It's just like Reddit - they have more content, but we prefer Lemmy because of freedom. And we hate Reddit (and spez), not it's users.
Agreed, I went on reddit recently and realized how much anxiety it used to cause me. Fuck that place. There is definitely something to their algorithm meant to make you feel that way.
The front page furry porn is going to turn me into a furry one day...
Sadly I can't share this experience, my instance is non-nsfw
Maybe it's time to set up an account in another instance
"Everyone here is so nice".
Oh yeah? Well, you can freaking go hug yourself buddy!
Not really if you get into political talk, you will be shit talked into oblivion, and in the subject of pornography, i find the one here on lemmynsfw bland af, its mostly tje same chicks posting over and over again. But other than that I have seen before complaints from people on the lemmy.nsfw community that they are surprisingly puritan with the nsfw content allowed, and if you look for that type of content you will realize that its true, like i can think of various extreme fetishes that are banned that i rather not type here in public, but some that are more perplexing are like csncs, which its just a type of roleplay between 2 consenting adults and thats banned for some reason, and rape hentai, while i understeand while that would be controversial, its still a fetish sone people would have and its in draw form so no harm done to anyone, also some other gross stuff that nobody likes like scat or guro (drawn ofc)
Which like i said nobody whants to watch those last 2 except for the people that do and there even are comunities of those in reddit, so its very weird that there arent any equivalents here.
(Btw when i say banned i mean that they dont allow comunities that post that type of content.)
(And before you ask no im not into any of that type of the aformentioned shit)
Now you could say "well change instances", but i heard bad things from the other ones here that do allow some of that stuff, specially the hentai focused ones, which i heard are mainly legally dubius shit and a little dangerous to go there so i rather look for porn/hentai somewhere els
I love how so many of us former reddit lurkers found a home on Lemmy/the fediverse. I have absolutely loved being a part of the greater community here, I don't know how else to describe it but it feels like my Internet home. I love all you fellow nerds. Obligatory fuck spez.
Organic ,non bot, actual real conversation, is not going to skyrocket. It's going to grow like a real world thing. This is good imo
Fuck u/spez and fuck Tencent.
You know what? Fuck the enshittification of the internet too.
I can't be fucked with reddit anymore. The fact that Lemmy is slower and quieter means I eventually get bored and do something else.
I still love Lemmy. It's nice to be able to post or comment without getting an automated response telling you you're doing 15 things wrongs for trying to participate like happens on schmeddit.
Was there some stat released somewhere showing lemmy "losing users"? I'm pretty new and plan on sticking around, the quality here is infinitely better than reddit.
I feel the communities that I'm part of here have decent engagement. Even if it's losing users, I feel it's still high quality.
Yeah. I’m more concerned with quality than raw numbers.
How many of those that we’re losing are dead alts, bots, and trolls? I’m not that alarmed.
I use Lemmy more than I ever used Reddit. It seems to be better at finding higher quality content
Lemmy really feels like early Reddit right now. I mean that in a good way. And not to flex but I'm saying that as someone with a 16 year old Reddit account haha.
Same here. I feel Reddit changed for the worse so slowly that I had completely forgotten what the glory days were like until I came to Lemmy. I forgot that there was actual discussion in the comments rather than the same ten lazy comments ad naseum.
I'm kinda surprised Lemmy is losing users since it feels like there is more engagement since I joined earlier this year.
There's so much of the "same ol" on reddit.
Top posts seem to follow a structure. Top 5 comments are the same jokes. A lot of the askreddit is regurgitating from a year ago.
Honestly it feels like chatting with AI bots. And I wouldn't be surprised if reddit is secretly inflating their numbers.
hear hear, i left cold turkey like 4 months ago, haven't looked back.
Reddit for porn and porn only.
Old gonewild was pretty great too, before all the onlyfans spam
Bdsmlr is decent, depending on your taste.
RIP kittiesandtitties.
Lemmy is really lacking in that department. But I'm OK with reddit being just a porn site.
And I'm also okay with Lemmy lacking in "porn" (read: OF spam and bots)
So 3h every day?
I don't have three minutes to beat off, let alone three hours.
¥0U d0n'7 n33d t0 c3ns0r shit 1n h3r3. Th1s 1sn't th@t t!kt0k garbage.
Some of you who are complaining Lemmy are seeing though rose-tinted glasses about what reddit was like back in the day. The majority of the site was never good, and it had always had plenty of embarassing/messed up things on there that you had to sift through, but it's a different, sterile kind of bad now.
Here are a couple of reminders of what reddit was actually like, in no particular order.
This is why I would never admit to using reddit in public, and until recent years, I would imagine most people won't.
So if anyone complains about how the current content on Lemmy is driving people away, remember, Lemmy is positively TAME compared to this supposedly "Golden Era" of reddit.
Reddit Atheists make me wish there was a God
I should post more than I do. My engagement rate is low. Reddit is no longer an option.
Even when I'm not active on Lemmy, I am not on Reddit.
If I ever need information from Reddit (unfortunately there is still a lot of information only on Reddit...), Wayback machine I go.
Even if me requesting that Wayback machine archive a page, once it's saved we don't need to give reddit anymore clicks, Wayback machine gets the clicks instead. It's better than losing information outright.
Spez:
I never used Reddit other than the rare view via a search-engine when trying to find something. I now lurk Lemmy daily but barely ever post. I read so many enlightening things here. Not leaving.
Blocked reddit on my router, to prevent accidental clickage - no intention of going back there at all
Same. I named the block settings "Fuck Spez".
Fuck Spez, Fuck Musk too. Lemmy's better now than reddit ever was.
While we're at it, fuck Google.
And Kevin. Fuck Kevin.
Has StoriesAboutKevin made it to Lemmy yet?
Kevin can fuck himself.
I never posted on Reddit, I only commented, because every time I posted anything, someone would come be an asshole about it. Here tho, I've been posting a lot more than I ever did and I don't get abused for it, unless that was my intent.
Alright I just created my own server with my own lemmy instance and created my first account. Let's stop lurking and push this number!
My buddy did that too. Right now it's just our group but he wants to expand a bit once things are more set up.
I don't know what most of that means but I'm somehow here too!
I some times feel a bit alone on lemmy solely because I'm not as tech inclined as a lot of the userbase, but it's reminders like this that make me feel a bit ok about it.
That's ok. I use Windows instead of Linux and I like it here since it's not the endless circlejerk that mainstream reddit with all the influencer posts and bot accounts currently is. Lemmy feels like a village to me, while reddit is the dystopian hellscape from bladerunner.
I’ll be honest I still use Reddit when I’m trying to solve problems or look up niche stuff. But the iOS app is garbage… on my phone I only use Lemmy.
I just check every few hours instead of doomscrolling. It'd be nice to have more content and more active niche communities, but somehow I think this is better for me lmao. Anyways it feels cozier but not on the decline imo
We arent losing users....
https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/stats
Oh shit we are back on the up trend!! Hell yeah!
I said something in the other thread and I'm gonna say something here because I want to do my part to keep lemmy active.
I'm not leaving.
Honestly yeah this is actually great. Most of the reasons I started to hate Reddit was that it went "mainstream". Censorship, political feuds.
I would hear Reddit mentioned in the news. I don't need that for my "community".
Like a return to Bulletin Boards. Hell yeah. Free and open internet babyy
First people complain that there are to many people on lemmy.
Then the number of people decreases
Now people complain about that to
Can we please just stop caring about the numbers and instead focus on making a nice place for ourselves?
I dunno, do we actually care about people who would leave here and go back to Reddit?
I'm actually, honestly enjoying this more. Yes, pretty much every niche community I joined has died now, and that's unfortunate, but it's quite certainly alive anyway.
Reminds me a bit of earlier Digg, and the culture here varies a lot but I see a wide range of political opinion and cultural frames of reference compared to what Reddit was, which was a near monoculture.
I prefer this not being guided by a single company.
Something I used to do on Reddit was find a new community, and binge the top posts from the last year. I've started being able to do that on Lemmy, which is a huge win in my books
I haven’t experienced that yet. How do you find new communities? When i sort by all it’s just vintage porn and bots reposting shit from reddit.
I usually find out about them when someone posts to ![email protected]
well said. it's not about quantity, it's about quality. and spez enshittified Reddit because of greed, we shouldn't be greedy ourselves, or Lemmy will get enshittified too. i would like to slowly make it cozy and happy here, we shouldn't be competing against Reddit, because Lemmy is something different.
any nice user is welcome, please don't make them feel guilty for being on Reddit too. we will slowly make a nice transition so people have the option to being their stuff here if they want, which is what we need. no rupturism, please. i think we should be welcoming, not warmongering. this was made for users, not against spez. it's totally different.
spez can go and screw himself, i prefer to appreciate those who do good than to mourn about those who do wrong. don't waste energies on destructivity, spend them on constructivity.
don't compare to Reddit, compare to Lemmy on July, to Lemmy now, to what Lemmy could be if we work together. don't get anxious about growing. focus on 'growing nice' instead of 'growing more'.
we will make it. for sure. and it will be great.
have a nice day.
edit: i realize the 'not against spez' could have been worded better. what i try to say is that i prefer to focus my energies on nice people than bad people. i suffered already a lot bc of bad people and i prefer to spend my life supporting nice folks. sorry for the confusion.
As soon as reddit links fall out of Google, I won't even have to think about seeing it anymore. I also have it DNSBlocked because that's the only way I am going to stay off of it. X too.
Lemmy is losing users?
please explain what's going on.
All I know as I get to know lemmy using sync I'm a little frustrated because my feed is limited and doesn't let me infinitely scroll and it only updates like once a day which is frustrating because I would scroll forever if I could. But it doesn't let me. It dead ends Then there are simply no posts. I have to come back the next day. perhaps this is built-in on purpose to make sure we don't spend & lose our lives here.
Also:
Lemmy is losing users
Lemmy is using losers 😆
I use sync and have an endless scroll. Something must be up, maybe a setting? You're not missing much...
All vs subscribed? I don't have infinite scroll on my subscribed subs, so I use All.
Oh, that's what it is. I've taken the approach that on lemmy it's better to browse all and block almost everything than it is to see nothing on subscribed. That said, I wish it was easier to block instances and people. It takes, like, 4 clicks and is a pain.
Thank you for explaining this. I will try this.
Takes a while but pays off eventually. So many German instances. So much kinky anime*. Who knew there were that many sports teams?
It does let interesting ones filter through from time to time. I subscribe to those and figure in a thousand years I'll have a feed like I used to on reddit.
*I don't mind some kink, but man, that's some bent shit.
Go back with ad block so they loose money on data and power
But don't participate. Don't vote, don't comment. Optionally don't login as well. You get free entertainment and they loose money.
I browse lemmy a lot on mobile. When I first looked into lemmy mobile clients, they were read only.
This post inspired me to get Sync 4 Lemmy, now I'll be commenting much more (careful what you wish for haha as I'm sure I will have opinions some don't agree with, but hopefully can always debate rationally)
anyone who wants to leave can go. Hell, I'm responsible for two of the lost users because when i first came over here I misunderstood how this works and made a new account on each instance. what's up @[email protected] and @[email protected]?
I switched user names a few times too. Im pretty sure I made three accounts, and like six other ones for nsfw.
That's the spirit
same tbh
Lemmy feels more alive than Reddit imo
There's a reason why my username is the way it is. This is my new home.
Also, f*** Spez.
Plus Reddit Ads Personalization are'nt avoidable anymore
I actually don't care about what reddit did. But I care about that the client is so much faster without all the ads, bloat they put in. Here Lemmy wins and it is Reddit fault they are so greedy and not caring about the user.
Yeah, I saw that again the other day and could not care less. I love the Lemmy mobile apps, and there's nothing good left for Reddit in that area.
I actually was kind of annoyed the first week of Lemmy. It felt like a lot of keyboard warriors came over. It doesn't feel as much like that any longer. I think if anyone didn't stick around, it was the loud people pretending they were stronger than their addictions.
Good riddance, this is a much more chill crowd now. Maybe it's just a bunch of old people... But eh, I'm old. We can all be old together now. Just stay the fuck off my lawn, and by that I mean the grass outside my apartment complex.
If anything, I feel a lot more calmer and more at peace when reading Lemmy threads. I find the people here are the reasonable ones, and all the other maggots seemed to stay on Reddit. Which I'm super ok with.
Now and then you'll see someone who just goes thermonuclear on the first response to one of their comments, but they are far and few between. They all seem to eventually go back to Reddit, thankfully. Maybe because they can't get the endorphin rush that they crave here.
This period of peace won't probably last long, but I'm enjoying it while I can.
I've followed a link onto reddit a few times recently, and the first thing I noticed was how unhinged and toxic the discussions are there.
Umm this is a Wendy's drive thru sir...
Has reddit reversed their API charge?
No
Yeah! What OP said.
Mandatory FUCK REDDiT!
Meh don't worry. Those users were never going to stay anyway. The dumb herd loves strong leaders even if they are unjust.
Considering the cesspool that reddit has become, good riddance.
People are not moving to decentralized platforms yet, as they wish to empower those who are exploiting them more first whether they realize this or not.
Or at least, if you visit reddit, don't click on any ads or contribute in a meaningful way. In addition, never directly link to reddit. In a way, all your actions that affect reddit in any way should be to the detriment of reddit. It's like trying to cut down a sequoia with a sharp pebble, but even small livestock shits.
Cool story. What are ads?
As a fediverse weird thing, aside from the log in process, using eternity is just wonderful. I left when infinity started requiring a subscription and this has been great, aside from the lack of content. I don't ever have to the think of anything after the @
Test
I can't, I was one of those given bullshit bans for no reason
I've noticed that Lemmy has been shedding a lot of the Reddit style toxicity that was brought here from the influx. Presumably that has something to do with the terminally on Reddit people leaving.
Upside of a small community: more interaction between the users that do comment.
Downside of a small community: if someone's a dick, you can't really completely get away from them.
But the question is, can you handle one dick, or do you prefer dealing with hundreds?
Actually, you can. That's what blocking is for.
And blocking is great! I've blocked many spam bots, people with hateful comments, entire communities because I don't speak their language or just don't have interest in their content (no OFFENSE to THE PACK you guys ARE SO COOL AND BADASS but that kind of humor doesn't appeal to me 90% of the time, no offense to sports fans but if I'm not actively playing it, I don't want to watch it)
But if it's a power user, it's really hard to get away from, and you can block them and all 15 of their alts but people still talk about some of them.
So you can prevent them from contacting you, and you can prevent either of you from seeing each other's posts and comments, but you can't completely get away from everyone.
I've been fortunate enough to not have beef with a person who has influence beyond a single account, I guess.
I've been away awhile but I haven't been using reddit either which is probably the best outcome tbh
So are actual numbers of users down?
Same.
I use https://lemmyverse.net/
It's okay, you can swear on the internet.
Why is this a meme
Because there's one of them pictures?
I mean memes should be funny and it is not funny as it is real
Who says memes should be funny? Who says what even is funny?
No one said memes have to be funny, and only one person decides whats funny:
And that's why Grayox is tonight's biggest loser!
Is this hava?
Its called being meta you ham sandwich.
Why is this a comment?
Why is this a reply?
Why is this a comment?
Makes sense now, thank you!
Gotchu fam
You know what, I'm just gonna say it. Nobody cares that you
broke your armare a meme.I recently made a meme about this phenomena. A lot of these soap box memes just state something everyone here likes with an image underneath. I find it a bit pandering but apparently people like it.
Because a comment saying something isn't a meme is a meme itself at this point.
That's the spirit!
Here here
Wait, can someone please link stats? Now I want to know.
I was commenting irl, just last night, about how I continue to enjoy the thing that replaced the old site.
well I've gone back on one of those promises
I lurk Lemmy then go to Reddit for my local subs. I also unsubscribe from all the popular subs. Fuck $pez
what if I mark all of my posts as NSFW, do they still get ad revenue? Or they're gonna advertise them on Pornhub or something
PREACH.
Doesn't matter, I'm still happy the platform is there and the users are contributing.
Wurd brudder
TIL revenue can be measured in ounces, neat-o
Reddit is for Porn. I got my year-thing and scrolled for 2 million bananas. I’m only subscribed to Porn and have been clicking on 1 or 2 things from MapPorn that got suggested to me while browsing through the ad-infested home feed. Have a guess on what they said was the post I liked more than the "The Gorilla Grip and Twist 5000“ I’ve spent months watching.
Unfortunately I go there still anonymously for when I need help or advice on certain life things, but I browse in a social media sense on Lemmy.
I've said this before: if there was a way to create more discoverability of Lemmy through a search engine, I'd choose it over reddit. Lemmy has different domain names based on server/instance, and that makes wild card searching impossible.
I know there are other search engines out there specifically for Lemmy, but that doesn't work for me.
Yep. The font of knowledge is useless because half of it is speculation
Amen to that!
How is reddit doing btw? Is there any overview of active users there?
Vlasky todo babala
If the only reason is because of not giving them "ad revenue", how do you not know about ad blockers in this day and age?
This is an insane take.
Why woud using reddit give them ad revenue
where are y'all hearing the mau numbers anyways?
Amen
Itar Darf Fader. OmG
Based.
I'd prefer it if Lemmy didn't go mainstream. Reddit went down the toilet once it did.
Ooorah
Stop. Bypassing. Our. Filters. Please.
It's just a lot of work to filter the commie/socialist/libtard nonsense. Once you get most of the propaganda sludge blocked, it's actually pretty decent.
Or, you can use Reddit, but with modded client that doesn't show a single ad thus no money to spez.
I modded the client myself using ReVancedX.
But you're still contributing content for users that see ads
Or, don't use reddit ya scab.