Hexbear was an absolute shitshow when they defederated from it so I donโt blame them. Itโs now merely a shitmonologue. Iโm pissed about dbzero, though. Is the word filter a real thing? Because Iโve been baiting people into acting out their malignant racist fantasies through promises of word filters and Iโd hate to know that they exist in some capacity.
I think they just ublocked the dbzero. Or at least I saw a post about it recently saying they've unblocked the piracy communities. I assume that's what you're referring to.
Function first. Hexbear users on hexbear arenโt used to responding to people without reaction image barrages or endless effectively semantical arguments, and most people outside hexbear arenโt fans of that. Defederating the troll instance is just downright reasonable, not even getting into politics. Theyโve chilled a bit since the initial excitement over federation. A. Bit.
Which makes no sense. How are the words picked? Is there a sliding scale, or an objectionable meter somewhere? Who decided that b!tch should be censored, but not cunt or skank?
What ideology are you talking about? Sure, you might just be a salty liberal or propertarian, but such vaguery could easily be a dogwhistle for something sinister.
They moved to Nostr since there they can't be defederated and shut their Lemmy instance down, I bet they'll later claim that us or the ADL shut them down because conspiracy theories are juicier.
Technically they're far left (Tankies) but they don't act that much different from far right in terms of behavior (such as their abusive and disruptive trolling).
Ah yes, clearly nobody could actually be a communist (notwithstanding the existence of the CPC and others)? Iโm not sure what your argument is supposed to beโฆ the CIA murders them all?
I actually dig it a bit. They're not really censoring themselves, they're still talking about corn and seggs just in a way the app doesn't yet recognize. Take that advertisers!
Yeah, they're literally bypassing being censored. They're continuing to talk about the shit that the company doesn't want them to. It's the opposite of what people are bitching about.
The term โungoodโ also lets you talk about bad things but that doesnโt make it not newspeak. The corporate sanitizing and infantilizing of speech is not a good thing. Itโs not the teenโs problem though, itโs the corporations and their desire for a sanitized public square they can plaster ads over.
Ungood was given by the state. This is stuff people are coming up with in defiance of the state/corporation/censorer. That distinction matters, I think.
My wife was telling me about how annoying it is that she'll try listening to new true crime podcasts and they'll shit like "unalived" instead of "killed". Comes across hella disrespectful to the victims.
Humans have had a taste for the macabre at least for as long as we have written history. Public executions used to be a past time activity (even Jesus' crucifixion is told like it was a public show), the morgue of Paris was a tourist attraction, even the sanitised (and controversial) Body Worlds exhibition has no trouble finding an audience.
Maybe what's weird is our relationship with death and putrefaction. It happens to everyone yet it's somehow in bad taste to talk about it.
If I was murdered and the case went cold for a long time, you bet I'd want everyone hearing about it after the case finally gets solved. But that's just me.
I get so annoyed listening to true crime stuff on YouTube these days and having the audio cut out any time a person uses the word suicide or rape, but not the gorey details of murder; no that's perfectly fine to hear every excruciating detail, but lord forbid your precious ears here the letters S-U-I-C-I-D-E in order.
It's not (mostly, I can't speak for the weirdos out there) murder porn, though? For a while, it was a movement of almost solidarity with other women, because these stories could easily happen to us. So it was almost like listening to survival tips, as well as paying respects to those lost by trying to learn from their experiences. It probably wasn't a coincedence that the 'true crime wave' happened around the time of Me Too.
And to soothe your mind, true crime as a 'fad' is dying quite a bit. People realized that, hey having a frivolous show where you clown and make cocktails or some shit while talking about real victims just isn't okay.
Source: am a woman who was (and is) interested in true crime, and have spoken to many other women from different circlesโand even states/citiesโwho were also interested in the topic.
It's not exclusive to woman either -- guys (especially young guys) watch police bodycams of shootings, combat footage, and gore-porn TV shows or movies. There were entire subreddits dedicated to actual videos/pictures of people dying -- and I'll give you one guess as to what the demographics of their user bases were.
It's almost as if a lot of people are morbidly curious about death and violence.
That's not what I said, is it? I was talking specifically about the more recent spike in popularity.
Edit: Not sure why I'm being down voted for pointing out what I said. I very specifically was talking about the spike in popularity around 2016. I'm not talking about the topic being popular before that, because there is a specific difference in the two time frames, where interest in the topic reached a fever pitch. And yes, it is 'slowing down' compared to said fever pitch ~2016. But 'slowing down' mostly means returning to baseline.
Everyone else is circle jerking about the censorship, meanwhile, Iโm wondering how murder, rape, suicide, sex, and lesbians all came up in a bumble chat.
I'll never forget about 25 years ago cruising around some random chat rooms on mIRC and somebody asked me how the weather was and I said it was a bit chilly and I got instabanned with the message potty mouth... took me a good 5 minutes to workout wtf happened (bit ch)illy
Made in china, under complete control of ccp as every big company in china is. It is very unfortunate that younger generation is essentially being raised by tiktok and its algorithm.
Facebook is bad, no doubts about that, it's also unavoidable as the only social media for most people, and it's also not fun for most people. Tiktok on the other hand is interesting, it's captivating, the algorithm tailors it to you, microdoses you with dopamine. I'm sure that same algorithm can be, if desired, used to push pro-china/pro-russia/anti-west narratives to varying degrees of subtlety, tailor-made to each user, to further destabilize certain countries, united states included.
Social media is dangerous, social media controlled by a potential enemy is dangerous on a whole another level.
Big difference between "The US isn't actually the greatest country in the world" (whatever the fuck "greatest" means, they're never too clear about that) and "Uighyurs are dangerous dissident terrorists who need to be re-educated. Any organ donations are purely voluntary."
But then again, I am talking to a CCP shill from lemmygrad. Pretty much pissing into an ocean of piss here.
Make no mistake, there have been some allegations in the UN report, that if true, I would want China to do better. But I donโt remember reading about organ harvesting in there.
Who do you trust to make reputable claims that arenโt motivated by political reasons on this?
Saw this often back then on Reddit. People wanting to curse, but the writing f*ck. If you want to curse, curse. If you think it would be too rude to spell out, just fucking don't.
I think they blur ir after. Just Japanese law prevents the showing of genitalia. Not other parts of the body. So only the vagina and penis are normally censored. However is some cases the asshole is censored too but it's not as often I don't think.
Asshole has to be censored when it's being penetrated afaik, though sometimes they just censor it along with the rest for whatever reason, probably less effort to draw.
After, which is really dumb because a lot of artists are spending time making the art only to have to put a black bar over their work for no real logical reason.
A friend of a friend died of cancer complications. I posted a rest in peace type message on Facebook without details.
The next time I saw my mother she asked "I saw your post. Did your friend unalive herself...?". It felt SO insulting and demeaning for her to ask that AND to ask like that.
"free speech only applies to government" falls apart when private companies control all communications. It's about time we reformed free speech laws to include the private sector
The terms originated from online censorship but to me using these terms IRL is very similar to people who use internet slang out loud. Might not be censoring herself but just so used to using those terms. It's annoying either way though.
You know, I never questioned where the term roflcopter came from, but I just looked it up and it comes from the WarCraft III forums in 2003. It actually refers to the gyrocopter in the game rather than a helicopter. This has been another...
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It's Chinese spyware that was specifically and provably designed to dumb down Westerners even more and make the Chinese smarter by specifically showing certain content to people in those countries. Americans then fell for it harder than a billion Trojan horses and remain locked in it's grasp. That one small app took a ton of my respect for humanity away.
That's been proven not to be true, tiktok us matches all the other us social media and tiktok china matches all the other Chinese social media.
US social media is full of greed, scams, flexing, crypto pyramid schemes, and lowest common denominator trash because that's what American culture has been overwhelmed with for decades - did tiktok shit over the history channel? Did they invent MTV? Is it there fault the only movies that are made are comic book repeats?
Just finding a foreigner to blame has been an incredibly popular strategy so through history but it never actually solves the problem at hand it just obscures it so no one ever tries anything effective
So you really not understand what I'm saying? I'm also from neither of those countries but the conversation is about them, acting like China is the evil influence that makes American social media bad is silly when all other American social media is the same.
Idk man. I don't use TikTok and probably never will, but I don't think it's unreasonable to expect people to be able to segregate their entertainment from their intellect.
I'm surprised people downvote that idea. Part of the issue was the hordes of people of... lower intellect flooding into public forums to begin with. Segmenting them out into their own little zoo seems ideal to filter the noise out more effectively.
I meant that it should be possible to appreciate harmlessly stupid or silly/vapid humour without it degrading your ability to also reason critically about serious stuff.
Anyone old enough to remember Ren and Stimpy and the episode where they found corn in the dresser? I didn't realize it was porn...and now porn is actually called corn. I'm too fucking old.
The kids are creating corporate influenced newspeak that infantilizes serious topics instead of moving to a platform without censorship. Teen slang is great when it comes up naturally instead of because advertisers want to sanitize our thoughts so we only think about consuming products.
If I'm on a platform that penalizes using problematic languages I at least find a poetic way of expressing what I mean. "Suic*de" is fuckin stupid. Escaping this mortal coil of my own volition is cool. Well, it's not, but the words are
Yeah why shouldn't we violently attack and murder anyone who does anything we don't like? We're good people and they're bad people therefore anything we do is right and good!
There's a whole tiktok-only meta where people think that adding particular tags or censoring certain words will prevent automod from deleting their post
I'm not sure it even works that way, but it's very common
They can still use and profit from your data, they just know that there's a different culture and demand for content in the west that they can push towards the consumer to hook them more
Newspeak is intended to make more complex thoughts impossible. This isn't newspeak; they're still talking about the topics, they're just using dumb filter workarounds.
Though I do feel it'd be obnoxious to actually talk like this when not needed
Though I do feel itโd be obnoxious to actually talk like this when not needed
on the one hand, yes. on the other hand, my generation piloted the spoken use of "lol", "lmao", and their myriad variations in pronunciation. this strikes me as merely upholding that proud tradition.
I suppose eventually I'll come around to accepting it, if it persists. But these are not the same; the intent behind them is different. "LOL" is an acronym, not a censorship workaround. Saying it out loud is purely ironic. Maybe the zoomers saying Tiktokisms out loud is also ironic (I've personally never heard it directly), but the reason it exists in the first place is stupid
At first it was ironic, then it just became a muscle memory response.
Plenty of people thought text acronyms were dumb and people were even dumber for saying them, even ironically. This is just you being one of those people for the new generation of "kids these days"
There is no purpose for using the word 'grape' as a substitute for 'rape' other than to avoid tiktok moderation. It contains the full original word, therefore doesn't serve any censorship purpose. Using it this way can even recontextualise the word in a way that trivialises SA. It's harmful, unlike lol or lmao.
Seriously we can hate the platform all we want but this isn't even good as a funny response anymore. The ship has sailed and they won't be abandoning it any time soon.
My millennial partner (admittingly adopted the lingo late) approaches strangers with doggos and says things like what a Heckin good pupper, who's a smoll boi etc.
Not surprised at zoomers doing this. Its just more funny on twitter when someone says something like fugg you!
Can't stand it. Censoring yourself so some random ass company can make more ad revenue.
Fuck that.
Come to Lemmy. We'll let you say "fuck".
But not removed. Have to say B!tch instead....
Bitch?
Lmao nice we can say the word bitch. Based as fuck, bitch
LMFAO, which instances ban words so I can avoid making accounts there?
lemmy.ml is definitely one
You called?
Shit piss fuck cunt cocksucker motherfucker tits fart turd and twat
Unless you're on Lemmy.world.
What's the deal with .world?
They censor no-no words, you'll occasionally see removed in a comment from a Lemmy.world account.
They're also emotional children that ban or defederate anyone who disagrees with them.
Basically, they're reddit v2.
Hexbear was an absolute shitshow when they defederated from it so I donโt blame them. Itโs now merely a shitmonologue. Iโm pissed about dbzero, though. Is the word filter a real thing? Because Iโve been baiting people into acting out their malignant racist fantasies through promises of word filters and Iโd hate to know that they exist in some capacity.
I think they just ublocked the dbzero. Or at least I saw a post about it recently saying they've unblocked the piracy communities. I assume that's what you're referring to.
Thatโs genuinely good news. The unprompted piracy censorship was just weird.
Yeah I'm torn here, absolutely fuck hexbear and Lemmygrad, but also, fuck that heavy censorship garbage right back to Facebook where it belongs.
Function first. Hexbear users on hexbear arenโt used to responding to people without reaction image barrages or endless effectively semantical arguments, and most people outside hexbear arenโt fans of that. Defederating the troll instance is just downright reasonable, not even getting into politics. Theyโve chilled a bit since the initial excitement over federation. A. Bit.
The word filter is very much a thing, yes.
Iโm going to need someone from .world to reply with a few examples of censored words to be sure. Anything from ****** to ****.
This post is on lemmy.world so you can observe what is censored from my comment for yourself.
Suicide Dead Kill Terrorism Shit Fuck Ass Piss Dick Pussy Cock Cunt Dildo Rape Motherfucker Porn Transgender Lesbian Gay Bisexual
What do we have now? I left out racist slurs because I don't feel the need to use those in any typical situation.
Biatch, r-tard, there's a few others.
bitch & retard?
Not like Lemmy doesn't have a controversial slur filter itself.
Which makes no sense. How are the words picked? Is there a sliding scale, or an objectionable meter somewhere? Who decided that b!tch should be censored, but not cunt or skank?
But that's about it. And god forbid you have differing ideology
What ideology are you talking about? Sure, you might just be a salty liberal or propertarian, but such vaguery could easily be a dogwhistle for something sinister.
There's Lemmygrad if you're that kind of guy... But touching grass is available too.
Is the exploding heads instance still alive? There you had some very different opinions.
They moved to Nostr since there they can't be defederated and shut their Lemmy instance down, I bet they'll later claim that us or the ADL shut them down because conspiracy theories are juicier.
Oh no! People might challenge my opinions! The horror!
Can you say...all words on Lemmy?
Can you say any phrase from the combination of words on Lemmy?
Fun fact: until not too long ago there was a language filter built right into Lemmy's source code.
No mandarin allowed?
hexbear begins lighting torches
what is a hexbear?
A far right Lemmy instance.
Technically they're far left (Tankies) but they don't act that much different from far right in terms of behavior (such as their abusive and disruptive trolling).
They're far right cosplaying leftists.
Wait, Hexbear is far right now for checks notes supporting China?
Leftist instance that your instance preemptively defederated from, presumably so you could stay in your echo chamber
Ah yes, clearly nobody could actually be a communist (notwithstanding the existence of the CPC and others)? Iโm not sure what your argument is supposed to beโฆ the CIA murders them all?
There is a language filter still that any admin can put words into.
But it's not hard coded into the source code
Yes, no predefined list ships in the code, just the ability to add words to the list.
I actually dig it a bit. They're not really censoring themselves, they're still talking about corn and seggs just in a way the app doesn't yet recognize. Take that advertisers!
Yeah, they're literally bypassing being censored. They're continuing to talk about the shit that the company doesn't want them to. It's the opposite of what people are bitching about.
The term โungoodโ also lets you talk about bad things but that doesnโt make it not newspeak. The corporate sanitizing and infantilizing of speech is not a good thing. Itโs not the teenโs problem though, itโs the corporations and their desire for a sanitized public square they can plaster ads over.
Yes, exactly. The problem is corporate sanitization not the adapted language norms by teens.
Ungood was given by the state. This is stuff people are coming up with in defiance of the state/corporation/censorer. That distinction matters, I think.
We already have the real words. Censoring yourself is bending over to accept it.
It's specifically defying the censorship already imposed.
My wife was telling me about how annoying it is that she'll try listening to new true crime podcasts and they'll shit like "unalived" instead of "killed". Comes across hella disrespectful to the victims.
To be fair, it's pretty bleak to use someone's grisly murder as a means of entertainment. Our society is weird
โHey there all you horror sweeties, Iโve got a sloppy poppy oopy goopy murder of a three year old little girl brought to you by Squarespaceโ
You enhanced the meme, good job.
You ever go to a club where a man wee on you?
Sponsored school shootings in [redacted by TVA]
Humans have had a taste for the macabre at least for as long as we have written history. Public executions used to be a past time activity (even Jesus' crucifixion is told like it was a public show), the morgue of Paris was a tourist attraction, even the sanitised (and controversial) Body Worlds exhibition has no trouble finding an audience. Maybe what's weird is our relationship with death and putrefaction. It happens to everyone yet it's somehow in bad taste to talk about it.
If I was murdered and the case went cold for a long time, you bet I'd want everyone hearing about it after the case finally gets solved. But that's just me.
I get so annoyed listening to true crime stuff on YouTube these days and having the audio cut out any time a person uses the word suicide or rape, but not the gorey details of murder; no that's perfectly fine to hear every excruciating detail, but lord forbid your precious ears here the letters S-U-I-C-I-D-E in order.
Don't listen to it on YouTube then.
The percentage of women I know that are into murder porn is alarming to me.
It's not (mostly, I can't speak for the weirdos out there) murder porn, though? For a while, it was a movement of almost solidarity with other women, because these stories could easily happen to us. So it was almost like listening to survival tips, as well as paying respects to those lost by trying to learn from their experiences. It probably wasn't a coincedence that the 'true crime wave' happened around the time of Me Too.
And to soothe your mind, true crime as a 'fad' is dying quite a bit. People realized that, hey having a frivolous show where you clown and make cocktails or some shit while talking about real victims just isn't okay.
Source: am a woman who was (and is) interested in true crime, and have spoken to many other women from different circlesโand even states/citiesโwho were also interested in the topic.
It's not exclusive to woman either -- guys (especially young guys) watch police bodycams of shootings, combat footage, and gore-porn TV shows or movies. There were entire subreddits dedicated to actual videos/pictures of people dying -- and I'll give you one guess as to what the demographics of their user bases were.
It's almost as if a lot of people are morbidly curious about death and violence.
True crime has been popular since the 50s and has no signs of winding down.
That's not what I said, is it? I was talking specifically about the more recent spike in popularity.
Edit: Not sure why I'm being down voted for pointing out what I said. I very specifically was talking about the spike in popularity around 2016. I'm not talking about the topic being popular before that, because there is a specific difference in the two time frames, where interest in the topic reached a fever pitch. And yes, it is 'slowing down' compared to said fever pitch ~2016. But 'slowing down' mostly means returning to baseline.
It's dangerously close to 100 in my experience
Everyone else is circle jerking about the censorship, meanwhile, Iโm wondering how murder, rape, suicide, sex, and lesbians all came up in a bumble chat.
Look, I had a busy weekend, okay
"IF YOU DONT HAVE LE$BIAN SEGGS WITH ME ILL UNALIVE MYSELF!"
They were talking about chainsaw man
"says le$bian"
Really. Can you spell out phonetically how they say that?
$bian is a variable but it wasn't set, so it's pronounced "le-undefined"
Just
leas inrm -rf $bian/Lecashbian?
Le'dollarbian.
*Tips fedora
Le-dolla-be'in
Not to be confused with Lโฌsbians and ยฃesbians in Europe.
The actual way we've said it jokingly around here. ^
Le cha-ching! bian
"Lecashbian" could roll well off the tongue
It's his the French refer to Le Caspian.
Says he met her on bumble, so I assume she says it like "le$bian"
inb4 prescriptivists coming here to say that writing something isn't "saying" it
Le money sign bian
I'll never forget about 25 years ago cruising around some random chat rooms on mIRC and somebody asked me how the weather was and I said it was a bit chilly and I got instabanned with the message potty mouth... took me a good 5 minutes to workout wtf happened (bit ch)illy
Ah, the Scunthorpe problem, a classic
Also known as the Penistone problem
Does your penis have a tone? I've never noticed one from mine, but maybe I need to pay closer attention ๐ค
It would be nice to know if I had a penis first
You haven't heard of tone wood?
Mine's a D#
Ain't that a bitch? Illy.
Honestly, a tiktokker and a 4channer sound like the perfect couple, at least from the POV as an outside observar. grabs popcorn
That's like shipping a mature coomercel with a school girl
I'm not sure you and I have the same definition of "perfect"
I automatically have zero respect for anyone using that chinese spyware trash.
Agreed, I prefer American made spyware
Chinese and Korean made phones, running American software, which was outsourced to India.
What do I get if I catch em all?
Why specify Chinese? Any private social media mobile app is spyware
Made in china, under complete control of ccp as every big company in china is. It is very unfortunate that younger generation is essentially being raised by tiktok and its algorithm.
Facebook is bad, no doubts about that, it's also unavoidable as the only social media for most people, and it's also not fun for most people. Tiktok on the other hand is interesting, it's captivating, the algorithm tailors it to you, microdoses you with dopamine. I'm sure that same algorithm can be, if desired, used to push pro-china/pro-russia/anti-west narratives to varying degrees of subtlety, tailor-made to each user, to further destabilize certain countries, united states included.
Social media is dangerous, social media controlled by a potential enemy is dangerous on a whole another level.
Oh no, telling people that the US isnโt the greatest country in the world, the horror!
Big difference between "The US isn't actually the greatest country in the world" (whatever the fuck "greatest" means, they're never too clear about that) and "Uighyurs are dangerous dissident terrorists who need to be re-educated. Any organ donations are purely voluntary."
But then again, I am talking to a CCP shill from lemmygrad. Pretty much pissing into an ocean of piss here.
Do you have a source to back your claims up?
Make no mistake, there have been some allegations in the UN report, that if true, I would want China to do better. But I donโt remember reading about organ harvesting in there.
Who do you trust to make reputable claims that arenโt motivated by political reasons on this?
This right here is the answer.
Yes, we know that our government has done shitty, crazy things to try to control people and they probably arenโt above that today.
They do not have it in their best interest to weaken their own country though. A potentially hostile foreign government does.
I mean, everyone uses it so I hope not. Weโll see I guess.
Ok Richard Stallman
I fucking hate people censoring themselfs. Like what the fuck does "I ****** ***** ****** *****" mean?
Saw this often back then on Reddit. People wanting to curse, but the writing f*ck. If you want to curse, curse. If you think it would be too rude to spell out, just fucking don't.
Same vibes as Hentai with blurred titties.
isn't that goofy-ass japanese censorship laws or something
hentai are Animation right? so they have a blurry texture for tits or do they blur it after?
I think they blur ir after. Just Japanese law prevents the showing of genitalia. Not other parts of the body. So only the vagina and penis are normally censored. However is some cases the asshole is censored too but it's not as often I don't think.
Asshole has to be censored when it's being penetrated afaik, though sometimes they just censor it along with the rest for whatever reason, probably less effort to draw.
After, which is really dumb because a lot of artists are spending time making the art only to have to put a black bar over their work for no real logical reason.
I think that's mostly when people use speech to text. I know gboard automatically censors words like that.
It's a setting you can change
I know, but I'm just explaining why it happens. Most people just leave it default.
For sure. The only time it's appropriate is when quoting but you can't use the exact text for whatever reason.
N**** ***** **** *** **
Did you just Rick roll us with stars?!
N**** ***** *** *** ****
Never gonna run around
Reported.
Wong, it's "and hurt you"
Cannot resist bashposting:
I had this happen in real life.
A friend of a friend died of cancer complications. I posted a rest in peace type message on Facebook without details.
The next time I saw my mother she asked "I saw your post. Did your friend unalive herself...?". It felt SO insulting and demeaning for her to ask that AND to ask like that.
Okay, we need to stop letting Youtube police our langauge
Good try
We don't need no education, we don't need no thought control.
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Thot control*
But controlling thots is fun! โน๏ธ
This is tiktok though.
Is that a gauge for LANs?
They are not policing your language. They are using selective language on the posts that they wholly own that you gave them for free.
Legally true, but morally not so much given how much of the net they control.
"free speech only applies to government" falls apart when private companies control all communications. It's about time we reformed free speech laws to include the private sector
Preventing people from saying "lesbian" sounds homophobic to me.
CPC regularly disappear gay and lesbian people. Back in 1996 they just publicly executed them.
Thats why I find it insane when lgbtq+ people defend China. Like bruh, you would go to the work camps if you lived there
Well it is TikTok. So that tracks
Omg...
The terms originated from online censorship but to me using these terms IRL is very similar to people who use internet slang out loud. Might not be censoring herself but just so used to using those terms. It's annoying either way though.
I caught myself saying LOL the other day.
Be careful before it spreads to the *
Edit: I have no idea how to format here. You have to live now with this abomination
Either 3 backticks before and after code block, or 4 spaces at the start of each line
roflcopter
You know, I never questioned where the term roflcopter came from, but I just looked it up and it comes from the WarCraft III forums in 2003. It actually refers to the gyrocopter in the game rather than a helicopter. This has been another...
Yep, then when they were in wow, roflcopter just continued to spread.
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I've said stuff like IRL before I'm sure. I didn't mean to sound judgemental but doing it constantly all the time would irritate me TBH IMO FFS.
Is this a joke? 4chan is the origin of candy ass censorship, it enforced coded slurs
Jesus, I just remembered the people's champion and roody poo.
I'm sorry
Examples?
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/4chan-word-filter
desu desu desu desu desu desu
onions
How does one pronounce le$bian?
Le dollar bien (Fr*nch accent)
Please censor Fr#nch it's offensive
My apologies.
Ferme ta yeule maudit tabarnak รงa parait que tu suce des criss de queues
Why would we censor Fronch?
C toi qui est offensive lร nan mais oh
c'est un blague.... sheesh
Bah la mรชme tkt <3
The money good
With zero shame, apparently
Languages evolving, to match the censorship, which means censorship will evolve as well. People want to express themselves
Ah, are we going back to leet speak, again?
m1113nn1415 n3v32 570pp3d
y35 w3 n3v32 d1d
I'm a 1337 |-|@ck$0r. It never left.
(/s)
Everything old is new again. Next up: the resurgence of IRC and parachute pants!
t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m RIDES AGAIN
Gotta love when your orientation is censored
It's Chinese spyware that was specifically and provably designed to dumb down Westerners even more and make the Chinese smarter by specifically showing certain content to people in those countries. Americans then fell for it harder than a billion Trojan horses and remain locked in it's grasp. That one small app took a ton of my respect for humanity away.
That's been proven not to be true, tiktok us matches all the other us social media and tiktok china matches all the other Chinese social media.
US social media is full of greed, scams, flexing, crypto pyramid schemes, and lowest common denominator trash because that's what American culture has been overwhelmed with for decades - did tiktok shit over the history channel? Did they invent MTV? Is it there fault the only movies that are made are comic book repeats?
Just finding a foreigner to blame has been an incredibly popular strategy so through history but it never actually solves the problem at hand it just obscures it so no one ever tries anything effective
If that's been proven then you should be able to cite the source of the proof right? Please go ahead.
Foreigner...? Reading this as a non-Chinese and non-US American is quite baffling. Are these the only two countries in your world?
So you really not understand what I'm saying? I'm also from neither of those countries but the conversation is about them, acting like China is the evil influence that makes American social media bad is silly when all other American social media is the same.
STFU
Idk man. I don't use TikTok and probably never will, but I don't think it's unreasonable to expect people to be able to segregate their entertainment from their intellect.
I'm surprised people downvote that idea. Part of the issue was the hordes of people of... lower intellect flooding into public forums to begin with. Segmenting them out into their own little zoo seems ideal to filter the noise out more effectively.
I meant that it should be possible to appreciate harmlessly stupid or silly/vapid humour without it degrading your ability to also reason critically about serious stuff.
Ok, prove it please.
https://nypost.com/2023/02/25/china-is-hurting-us-kids-with-tiktok-but-protecting-its-own/
https://www.deseret.com/2022/11/24/23467181/difference-between-tik-tok-in-china-and-the-us
https://medium.com/publishous/is-china-using-tiktok-to-take-over-the-world-769a791011d
Pick one.
Good reads, thanks!
If I was in the market for a new companion the use of Tik-Tok would be a HARD pass for me.
Same here. Guess we'll both be alone forever.
Personally if I was starting over it would be TikTok AND Snapchat for sure. Worst two fucking apps ever made for humanity.
There was a period of time where I felt somewhat left out for not having an instagram and snapchat. But these days I'm certain I made the right choice
Roughly one quarter of united states citizens are automatically ruled out for you then
Good.
This is probably how it sounds to some older millenials or gen x'ers when I, a younger millenial talk in meme references
realest story on 4chan
Anyone old enough to remember Ren and Stimpy and the episode where they found corn in the dresser? I didn't realize it was porn...and now porn is actually called corn. I'm too fucking old.
I loved Ren and Stimpy but I don't remember whatever episode you're talking about.
Do you remember the episode where Ren got split into the two opposite sides of his personality? His evil side, and his indifferent side.
Huh, I don't remember OP's but I do remember this one!
LMFAO, old ass coomers in this thread complaining when kids try to get around censorship
The kids are creating corporate influenced newspeak that infantilizes serious topics instead of moving to a platform without censorship. Teen slang is great when it comes up naturally instead of because advertisers want to sanitize our thoughts so we only think about consuming products.
Cornography
Farmers Only
You don't have to be lonely...
..at farmersonly.corn
Suddenly, a million Iowans scream out in ecstasy.
Yeah I used to find "Unalive" quirky and charming, but now it's... Getting a little too Demolition Man in here...
Double plus ungood
Well seems this community is no better than the corpos if their mod thinks saying to eliminate Nazis is Bigotry.
If I'm on a platform that penalizes using problematic languages I at least find a poetic way of expressing what I mean. "Suic*de" is fuckin stupid. Escaping this mortal coil of my own volition is cool. Well, it's not, but the words are
Yeah why shouldn't we violently attack and murder anyone who does anything we don't like? We're good people and they're bad people therefore anything we do is right and good!
"We shouldn't hurt Nazis, Nazis are real people too who deserve love and respect like all other people."
The problem is you jumped from Nazis straight to people who use words in a way you don't like
You should go outside more
since when is lesbian a swear or a sensitive word?
It is in China and Russia.
then it gets censored in russia and china like they do for nearly all the videos that come from the west, no?
There's a whole tiktok-only meta where people think that adding particular tags or censoring certain words will prevent automod from deleting their post
I'm not sure it even works that way, but it's very common
yeah but the content in the west is different to the one in china. we can't access Chinese tiktok and they can't access ours
They can still use and profit from your data, they just know that there's a different culture and demand for content in the west that they can push towards the consumer to hook them more
Sounds like this chick needs to delete tiktok
cr0n
It's scary how we seem to be getting closer and closer to 1984.
Newspeak is intended to make more complex thoughts impossible. This isn't newspeak; they're still talking about the topics, they're just using dumb filter workarounds.
Though I do feel it'd be obnoxious to actually talk like this when not needed
on the one hand, yes. on the other hand, my generation piloted the spoken use of "lol", "lmao", and their myriad variations in pronunciation. this strikes me as merely upholding that proud tradition.
I suppose eventually I'll come around to accepting it, if it persists. But these are not the same; the intent behind them is different. "LOL" is an acronym, not a censorship workaround. Saying it out loud is purely ironic. Maybe the zoomers saying Tiktokisms out loud is also ironic (I've personally never heard it directly), but the reason it exists in the first place is stupid
At first it was ironic, then it just became a muscle memory response.
Plenty of people thought text acronyms were dumb and people were even dumber for saying them, even ironically. This is just you being one of those people for the new generation of "kids these days"
There is no purpose for using the word 'grape' as a substitute for 'rape' other than to avoid tiktok moderation. It contains the full original word, therefore doesn't serve any censorship purpose. Using it this way can even recontextualise the word in a way that trivialises SA. It's harmful, unlike lol or lmao.
Every generation comes up with new terms that the older generations don't get. The proud tradition has been going strong since language began.
What is culture?
It's a book, I suggest you check out it's themes
Huh, I didn't know that, cool!
Not really? One is done for corporate profit. The other is the state.
End result is the same for us though. It just ends up being someone different enforcing it.
Sure Jan.
Can we take the David Foster Wallace route and say "erased their own map" in place of suicide?
It just sounds cool.
Or we can go Ursula Le Guin and say "waiving shifgrethor"
How the fuck does she say lesbian? Ledollarsignbian?
I prefer le-cash-bian
That's just the femdom ones.
I assume she types it out.
It's so much easier to not use TikTok
Young people bad >:[
Seriously we can hate the platform all we want but this isn't even good as a funny response anymore. The ship has sailed and they won't be abandoning it any time soon.
Le-dollar-bean
My millennial partner (admittingly adopted the lingo late) approaches strangers with doggos and says things like what a Heckin good pupper, who's a smoll boi etc.
Not surprised at zoomers doing this. Its just more funny on twitter when someone says something like fugg you!
Doggos ARE heckin good boyos
Signed, a Zoomer
Is le$bian the newest LeJoke around?
I just want to know how she was pronouncing it IRL that conveyed that. "Lee dollar-sign be-anne"?
Turns out Mormont's raven was actually just a freak
"CORN!"
Anon makes normal small talk
ITT: people getting crotchety over language evolving
I'm gonna have to take the strong stance of this not being a case of language evolving.
Devolving.
Thank you for re-invigorating such a niche weird as crotchety
If only we had things that corrected spelling mistakes, let's call them "spellcheckers"