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in this context he ment black men allowed to wear beards to prevent medical issues. he means the hard R

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primarly its hurts african americans, because they are prone to pseudofolliculitis from shaving.

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lemmy.ca

It's a wild thing. So the term grew out of the manosphere actually, it was mainly a term for present fathers who steered their boys away from that garbage because they recognized it was only going to hurt them. It kind of grew from there to encapsulate everything they hate. Now, they associate beards with hipsters, dads, LGBT+, nerds who like games, music, books, theatre, and basically any man with a soul and two brain cells to rub together, which is precisely who they see as the enemy because they're so transparently evil.

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killeareply
lemmy.world

So basically a wholesome father with a big bushy beard.

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lemmy.ca

Exactly. They've been working real hard to make it about gas masks in the military, which is a thing, but that's not why they're going off about it. "Beardos and Weirdos" specifically is a dog-whistle for men who actually have honestly held values, don't consider sex, violence, and substance abuse the point of life, and try to be a mentor, a partner, a part of a community or who otherwise contradicts their narrow, machismo-laced, lecherous and reductive definition of "Man."

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Look here now, a man can enjoy sex, violence, and substance abuse(not necessarily in that order) a whole lot without it becoming a part of their personality. Plenty of us are happy to be degenerates in private

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lemmy.world

No it’s just a racist dog whistle. By far the group that gets the most facial hair waivers in the military are black men. They just don’t want blacks in the military anymore.

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Enkrodreply
feddit.org

To explain the facial hair wavers to my fellow straight-hair-phenotypes: forcing to shave too closely, can lead to really big, painful infections and scars from ingrown hairs if you have curly-phenotype hair.

You can shave close enough for a gas mask to work, but in an organization that had its rules build around the bodily and cultural "normal" of white people, you might still need a facial hair waver.

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Yeah the waivers are definitely a good thing. Black men often have very coarse, tightly wound facial hair. Some of the dudes I served with would get the worst ingrowns and without a waiver they'd still have to just shave over them, causing nasty sores.

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killeareply
lemmy.world

Oh ya I get it, just wanted to shorten your more complex definition for some folks. I can hardly comprehend the amount of fucking idiocy and blind hate occurring in the us gov right now. They shit all over the so-called values they very vaguely pretend to support.

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Idk which they hate more: attentive loving husbands and fathers or people who actually use freedom

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Holy shit I’m inadvertently outing myself as giving a shit about people.

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sopuli.xyz

Damn, and here I was thinking it was about no-shave chits (which has racial undertones, because black men are more prone to razorbumps (basically ingrown hairs which can be extremely painful)).

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I mean, it's the US, you dig into anything deep enough and you can find racist undertones, because American society is built on racism. That said the particular phrase "Beardos and Weirdos" did in fact evolve out of the manosphere to describe any man of any race who didn't fall in line with them ideologically. Like so much of what they do, it just happens to also particularly disadvantage black men by virtue of their ideal being grounded in "whiteness."

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sopuli.xyz

Well I'm saying that in the military context specifically, it's well-known that the vast majority of shave-chit holders (i.e., people who can have beards) are black men. There was a whole thing a few months ago when they banned shave-chits, and a large part of the discussion was how it would disproportionately affect black men, and how this is one part of a larger strategy to push black men out of the military.

So within that context, yes, this statement by Hegseth absolutely does carry racial undertones, and you don't have to dig very deep to uncover that. It's not a conjecture, that statement was thinly-veiled racism.

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I'm not disagreeing. The policy itself is definitely an attack on black people. His choice of phrasing merely suggests he was trying to slur a lot of people, black people chief among them as usual.

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cinoreusreply
lemmy.world

How active is this hegseth on 4chan? How come he knows this stuff but I don't?

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Because he's an actual loser, not somebody like you just pretending to be uncool for internet cred.

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Unfortunately it doesn't work like that. The change to the follicles is permanent, one needs laser hair removal or electrolysis to destroy each one.

That's not to say someone couldn't tell them...

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crunchyreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Specifically in the military it refers to those in favor of loosening facial hair standards beyond just tiny mustaches, plus some service members that discovered and successfully exploited the "Heathen loophole."

Really it's just Pete's preference toward big burly white hairless men that will follow his commands.

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m4xiereply
lemmy.ca

A tiny mustache that fits under a gas mask 🤔

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crunchyreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Fun fact: a full beard fits under a gas mask too.

Because technology has improved somewhat since 1945.

edit: wait that was another sex thing wasn't it

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crunchyreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Beards are apparently a part of Heathen and Norse Pagan religion, so claiming the religion allowed them to grow and maintain a full beard as a religious exemption. That's since gone away with Hegseth's purge of almost all non-Abrahamic religions.

Everyone knew it was a loophole being exploited and not a bunch of people having spiritual awakenings all of a sudden. But a loophole is much more preferable to a Christian Nationalist leader determining what is and isn't a valid religion.

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Ok, yeah that makes a lot of sense. And yeah, when it comes to stuff like this you wind up in an awkward position where you have to allow loopholes to avoid prohibiting sincere religious convictions, especially among neopagans. Speaking as one, we're eclectic in what we consider religious (for example I consider my being trans to have religious significance and if I were to file a first amendment complaint against restrictions on my hormones it would be entirely sincere)

I'm not even necessarily opposed to not giving facial hair/uniform passes to members of particularly disorganized religions. We aren't like the Sikhs where it's easy to see their conviction and there's a continuous practice that can be pointed to. That said, first amendment complaints are first amendment complaints. Just because I think a compromise might be reasonable, doesn't mean that's in line with the law. Us pagans get fucked six ways to sunday on religious freedom and we do need to stand up and demand it apply to us.

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Fucking wild. "What an unmasculine loser, he's raising his children, that goes against my family values".

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Great explanation. Ashamed to say I would have thought it was another term for 'neckbeard' judging only by the sound of it lol

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Americareply
sh.itjust.works

I swear to god, it's like they distilled Jon lajoie's satire into modern standard

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So basically they made up a made for the type of men who opposed their bullshit and moved their sons away from it and now the Head of the Defence department is using that exact language.

Fuck.

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E_coli42reply
lemmy.world

A beard or long hair for men has always been a sign of rejection of conforming to social authority.

Hair is the best symbol of rebellion as it is difficult to defect from, takes a long time to grow long, and is accessible to everyone. You can recognize a hippie with their tie-dye shirt and reflective sunglasses. They signal to themselves and others that they are opposed to the Vietnam war and the establishment in general. But when they go to the office, for a swim, to the gym, etc. they go back to conforming to the rest of society. The hippie with long hair is at all times signaling their rejection to the establishment and is also signaling that they have been rejecting this for many years. The hippie who only commits to the tie-dye shirt and sunglasses can take it off when under scrutiny and put it back on when convenient.

Hair has no nerve cells. Cutting hair is completely painles. If someone won’t even listen to authority telling them to cut their hair, what makes you think they’ll listen to authority for anything else? Long hair subconsciously scares authority because the legitimacy of said authority is constantly challenged. This is my hypothesis for why being clean shaven and short hair has become a requirement in many militaries, but never a militia. It is the easiest way to get someone to subconsciously be comfortable with submitting to authority.

Some examples of "beardos" who use their hair as a symbol of rebellion:

  • Koreans during Japanese Imperialism
  • The Khalsa
  • Indian saints, regardless of religion
  • Hippies in the US
  • Brazilian communists during the dictatorship
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lemmy.world

Very true for many cultures. But it's also important to understand that for many Native American men it's rebellious in a very different way. Many tribes saw it as manly for a man to have long hair, and by growing it out it can be a rebellion against the demands of cultural surrender placed by white society

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E_coli42reply
lemmy.world

How is this rebellion in a different way? The Native American man keeping his hair long is the perfect example of him rejecting conformity to the standing social order, which is that of his colonizers.

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lemmy.world

I guess I was seeing your example as rejecting tradition, and this as embracing it

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Rejecting tradition itself often becomes a tradition. And the cycle continues.

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baronvonjreply
piefed.social

Jesus. Jesus was a beardo. A real socialist hippie kind of guy in sandals and robes and long hair and a beard.

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I hear that guy did unto others as he would have them do unto him; disgusting!

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explodiclereply
sh.itjust.works

To be fair, Jesus would only be useful in a military if he abandoned his principles and went Doctor Manhattan on everybody.

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Nah, the guy who whipped money changers outside the temple and said “sell all your possessions and buy a sword to defend the poor” would do just fine. He was canonically into peace, but not pacifism

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Well then maybe the "Christian" nationalist shouldn't be running the Department of "War" preaching about filling the ranks with "Christian" warriors.

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In the military it was getting easy to get a shaving waiver for religious exemptions.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

Hey, Pete, you know what happens when you decide to kick all those people out? You lose all the people running the cybersecurity division. Funny how that stuff works.

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As the old saying goes. A plane crash returning from a furry convention would put the software and cybersecurity industries back decades.

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Omgpwniesreply
lemmy.world

Also, basically every other role that's not basic infantry... including spec-ops who are allowed to have beards to operate clandestinely.

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hesgeth got mad because he never was able to obtain ranger school because hes such a screwup, i heard it was unofficially required for his position when he was sitll in the military.

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This thread brought me to a new thought. As with most essential parts of our government, maybe he is trying to push for privatizing the military. By firing top positions without reappointment and cancelling or delaying payment to labor, they create a volatile work environment. Spending increases on military does not go to our servicemen. Now attacking the people who want to serve is making their jobs near as unsafe as the frontline. This they hope will lead to low recruitment and retention, resulting in a need to hire more contractors.

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He didnt say no furries although seems like the FBI is trying to attract them (and not knowing what a furry is)

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lemmy.today

Oh I bet he has a response to that: "AI!" - poof problem solved. 'Murica's safe.

Ugh I wish I was joking.

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Yeah, and from what we’ve been seeing… AI… err… “SI”… has been doing more offensive action than defensive action…

The best their so-called SI could do for their defensive strategy would be to encrypt everything… and then being unable to get the data back…

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lemmy.ca

Because when you are losing a war, the sort of facial hair you have really matters. Reality doesn't back them up, so they have to go for crass appearance. Not "weak" my ass.

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aussie.zone

From memory the facial hair things isn't really about appearance but a way to kick poc out.

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Godricreply
lemmy.world

The facial hair thing started before they really let African people into the army as a way to ensure a good gas mask seal during WW1. I think it's a dumb rule enforced only for some amorphous idea of "discipline" nowadays, though.

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Are there any queers in the theater army tonight?
Get them up against the wall
There's one in the spotlight, he don't look right to me
Get him up against the wall
That one looks Jewish!
And that one's a coon!
Who let all of this riff-raff into the room?
There's one smoking a joint!
And another with spots!
If I had my way
I'd have all of you shot!

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lemmy.world

And then he puts fucking Elon Fatty Musk wimpy nazi in charge. Yanks - please kick out this administration

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aussie.zone

Is part of Hegseth's mental health problems that he can't grow a beard. It wouldn't be the first time in history (Alexander the Great famously count grow a beard and forced his troops to be clean-shaved).

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

From my understanding, it's to keep black people from serving. They have to be clean shaven and unfortunately black people tend to get really bad razor bumps which isn't accepted.

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There was in fact an exception process that Hegseth removed

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Malicareply
lemmy.zip

It's also about gas masks, can't from a seal with a beard.

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Cethinreply
lemmy.zip

That's the excuse, and the logic appears to make sense, but I think I recall it being tested and not really being much of a factor. That's what makes it a good dog whistle though. People will rush to say "it makes them unfit for duty because the equipment won't function" without looking further, so then the racist policies get protected and they don't have to actually justify the racism.

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/military-beards-break-gas-mask-seal/

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aussie.zone

Lack of evidence is not evidence of absence, just because a study hasn't been conducted does not mean beards don't interfere with wearing a gas mask.

Not having a jaw would probabry affect it too but there's no studies on that, yet nobody would claim it wouldn't

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Cethinreply
lemmy.zip

I've seen it tested, and it doesn't really. I have no idea if there's studies on that but, like you said, there isn't evidence, so why would we have this restriction? If they actually cared about this reasoning, they'd put money into testing it. However, disproving it would remove their ability to use it to justify exclusion, if this is the reason instead of functionality.

Just think about it. If you put enough force on beard hairs they are pretty firmly against the skin. They don't push the gas mask away. There aren't really going to be any gaps. It just doesn't logically make sense if you consider it for more than a second.

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I have a beard and it affected the seal and operation of a GP5 gas mask when I had to wear one, which is quite a feat if you've seen a GP5 mask

I'm not familiar with what the US is doing but politicians make retarded changes all the time knowing anything about what they are doing or how things work in the real world

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aussie.zone

This impacts at most 16300 troops, and there are 162000 black men in service. They're going to need a much better strategy to get the blacks out if it's racially motivated... Not to mention the 60000 black women unaffected by this

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ferretreply
sh.itjust.works

~10%? That’s a pretty solid fraction, certainly not bad when you still need to maintain plausible deniability.

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That figure includes whites and you're comparing it to black men only. Blacks in service represent 60% of the diagnosis so only 60% of that figure can be expected ot be black men.

I.e. closer to 4%

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It had to be difficult leading an army that's largely Greek and unable to grow a beard

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lemmy.world

Anyone seen the video of this douche bag trying to do a workout with the army. By workout, I mean essentially calisthenics. The guy looks like an absolute moron with the side steps.

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dermanusreply
lemmy.ca

What really gets me about those clips is he posted them! This wasn't some leaked video. He saw that and thought it looked badass.

I regularly ask myself how much they believe their own bullshit. For a long time I thought they didn't but Hegseth might actually be that clueless.

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I can’t upvote you enough. I actually thought that video was was a leak. I learned a lot today.

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lemmy.world

Yeah no trans people means your dumb ass just crippled military intelligence.

Also aren't special forces super into having beards? I'm glad if we're cutting back on them, especially the seals, the psycho bastards. And of course he's a weirdo himself

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lemmy.world

It's a dog whistle. Everyone who's been in the army with an ethnically mixed population knows many black people (think West African mostly) have severe skin issues if they shave fully. I had two guys in my section (so I assume more in the company but I can't recall) with exemptions and, of course, they were black.

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kestrel7_7reply
lemmy.world

The military started banning beards in WWI because they don’t work with gas masks (RIP cool civil war beards). They were only allowed again during the global war on terror because American soldiers were basically jealous of Afghani fighters’ full beards. Type of shit that’s too goofy to make up

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Your first part is correct, but the beard permissions began with medical and religious waivers.

As for how it became a thing beyond that, I've heard it began with nobody enforcing uniform regulations on the special forces.

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lemmy.world

He's already cracked down on facial hair in the military. It's been suspected It's intentionally targeted against black men.

I also suspect he's got an issue with beards in general as well, even though I believe he would have used a word for black people instead of beardos if he thought he could get away with it.

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Pretty sure it's there as an excuse to cut down on the number of black and brown people

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cub Guccireply
lemmy.today

FUCK YOU!! AMERICA IS THE BEST IT HAS THE BEST WARRIOS YOU FAT MOTHER'S CLAY BRAINS AGGGGHHHH

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feddit.org

What is a beardo? A man with a beard? I thought they wanted the tough manly guys? Hä?

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discuss.tchncs.de

there is for example irrating razor bumps (pseudo folliculitis barbae) which comes with shaving your beard, and it predominantly affects people with curly hair, so black people. this might be the true reason. alternatively I've heard pete hegseth has some kind of close personal issues with beards, but i can't find the source for that anymore. wouldn't surprise me if he has a beard trauma.

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A big bearded man probably broke his heart. 😢💔

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is it the reason. the folliculitis is pretty nasty to deal with, even ifts not bacterial. it takes longer to heal and refills with pus, and prone to bleeding and worst it can scar if it gets bad enough.

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bstixreply
feddit.dk

I wouldn't be surprised if the clean shaven soldier is some kind of marketing conspiracy.

People have shaved for all of history, but the idea that the default is a clear chin is something that only started during WW2 and with the following GI Joe comics. Beards go in and out of style, but to consider the clean face an ideal probably comes from the American religiously puritanical way of thinking.

The image is part of the cultural spread of the American Dream and sold alongside Gillette, Frosties and Coca Cola through the American "liberators" of Europe.

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It began with WWI, beards hindered gas mask sealing. That led to the rise in clean shaven being seen as professional as well as the origin of the postage stamp mustache (as made memorable by a certain Austrian and an actor who hated him)

America loved beards in the 19th century and mustaches were in in the early 20th. Facial hair trends come and go, we were into clean shaven looks in the 18th century, and even wore the stupid wigs the brits liked then.

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infosec.pub

but the idea that the default is a clear chin is something that only started during WW2 and with the following GI Joe comics.

I thought the idea of keeping your beard short can't from older warfare where you'd get your beard grabbed for an easier stabbing if it was too long? Don't even know where I heard that though... Just remember getting it from decades ago

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Most militaries started requiring their soldiers to shave during WWI, because facial hair will break the seal on a gas mask (see also: why I started shaving during covid).

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Lots of good reasons to shave. Gas masks were also a reason.
A soldier can shave real quickly before serving, so I just don't get the ideal of keeping it like that.

As far as I'm concerned it's all cultural propaganda in the same way as the nuclear family with cut lawns and car dependency. At least it seems to be the same people preaching all of it.

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In his first hour long address last year I'm pretty sure he said all high ranking service members will need to be clean shaven.

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lightnsfwreply
reddthat.com

People who make having a beard their entire personality. Which, to be fair, is annoying.

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I'm all but certain this isn't what he was talking about.

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Authoritarianism is an admission of abject weakness.

White supremacists are the weakest and most brittle snowflakes.

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nord.pub

Isn't war in 2026 mostly about logistics and maintenance and signal tech?

For every 1 masculine man man with epic guns surely there needs to be 10 or 20 other mild mannered technicians and cooks and geeks to pilot the drones and what not.

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WE NEED HOTTIES WITH ROCKHARD ABS AND HARDER BONERS TO SLOBBER OVER 🤤 🇺🇸 🫡

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lemmy.world

"A soldier needs two things: a full belly and a pair of shoes." -some dude named Napoleon. I was going to put "an army marches on its stomach" but that was apparently Frederick the Great, even earlier than Napoleon. War has always been mostly about logistics.

Fun Napoleon fact: the three main protagonist generals (Napoleon, Wellington and Blucher) at the Battle of Waterloo all designed shoes (or had shoes named after them). Only Wellingtons and Bluchers are still really around today - history is written by the winners, after all.

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lemmy.world

In the 5th century BCE Sun Tzu was saying the same shit. Idiot nobles and political appointees think war is about glorious battles, great warriors, and just killing more of the other guys. But it's about making sure your side has supplies and theirs doesn't. It's about making sure your troops aren't thinking of running away and theirs are. It's about setting strategic goals and doing what it takes to achieve them.

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Ironically, this is part of why the Confederacy failed so hard, but have most of the well known generals. The generals were absolutely trash at strategy. They were totally focused on winning glorious battles, and they sacrificed a significant number of troops getting them. Then, in the long term, they didn't have the ability to keep fighting like that. Their names are remembered for being these supposedly amazing generals (some of this is post-hoc to worship the Confederacy as a symbol for racism) while the union generals were out there winning the war with superior strategy. They were much more likely to retreat when it wasn't strategically advantageous, because they weren't stupid.

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99% Invisible did a show on the Brannock Device (the big metal thing in shoe stores to measure your feet) and how important it was to the war effort. Well fitted shoes go a long way.

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nord.pub

Sure but... no moreso than ever, surely. Soldiers don't march across countries any more.

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Cethinreply
lemmy.zip

I would say it's significantly worse now. Sure, the soldiers need slightly less food per unit of time, since they aren't wasting as much just walking, but now they have ammo that's consumed at a much faster rate, and they also have vehicles and generators that consume fuel, and so much else.

We've also gotten a lot better with logistics though. We pack things in cargo containers and things, which can be stacked and (off)loaded significantly faster. We also obviously have much faster transportation and production now too.

Logistics is more important than ever, but it's also significantly better managed and easier to track and handle.

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nord.pub

Sure but the broader point is, how many manly man soldiers do we need compared to how many fatty woke LGBTIQ bearded drone pilots?

I suspect the demand for meatheads is less now than it ever was

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Maybe we have all miss understood and he wants no LGBTIQ beacuse they are worth more, like 11 times thats why he cant have any!

Got this from an old onion clip lol

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Absolutely. There's more of a need for backline work than ever before.

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This is distractions, the real reason is that they want to purge anyone who would block illegal orders.

They are more concerned about the "enemy within" the country.

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piefed.zip

I guess warriors don't know logistics. It's that how he managed to lose the Iran war?

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lemmy.world

Genuinely yes, this obsession with killing over establishing strategic goals and following them is how he took a government on the verge of collapse, attacked it, and left it much more stable

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I think beyond all the infuriating, progressive-baiting shit, the unabashed self -congratulatory satisfaction that he can say nasty closed-minded shit because now he's in charge, the crux of it is that he and his kind don't understand war, they don't understand military operations and they don't understand how these things are actually won. They are cosplaying army with about as much subtlety as 19 year olds out of high school.

And so they are doing just what you pointed out: making it about warriors when modern wars are won mostly through logistics.

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aussie.zone

He definitely goes to Turkish bathhouses and sucks dick.

It's like 4chan... Used to be a fun place to talk shit and look at regular porn.. then all the right wingers took it over more every board is full of whining about Christianity and every porn board is full of trans and gay porn..

Right wingers ruin everything.

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dektepreply
lemmy.world

reminds me of voat. for a while the site was doing very well taking in those tired of Reddit. and it was pretty great. and then Reddit banned the most rascist subreddits and voat was suddenly full of christians. strange coincidence lol

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Oh yeah, never seen a pretty cool place for discussions turn into a fascist cesspit that fast.

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and then it just died i believe, because right winger needs to argue against the left, if everyone agrees theres like literally no discussion at all, and plus the constant push by troll farms isnt there too.

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I completely forgot about voat until just now... it was pretty trash even before the rest of the loonies showed up TBH

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zimyreply
lemmy.world

Regular porn? It's creator is a lolicon what the hell are you talking about.

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Outrage about woke is 2023

Even MAGA has woken up to it being the great con played upon them

This bloke is like a tiktok streamer playing the role of defence secretary from a 1980s action movie

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He is the fucking radical! Look at his tattoos and listen to his speeches! Racist supramacist radical POS

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lemmy.zip

I’ve said it before & I’ll say it again: Satire is nigh-impossible when reality is already this ridiculous.

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The first time I saw this quote I thought it was from Starship Troopers...

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Ann Archyreply
lemmy.world

First they came for the fatties.

And they caught me because I was a fatty.

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Sunflierreply
lemmy.world

And they caught me because I was a fatty.

Theres nothing wrong with being a fatty boom baddie!

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its interesting how this was reported in the Australian press, selective quoting, this is from the AFR, the Aus. equivalent of the WSJ, just a complete misquote...

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lemmy.world

did he make this announcement after thirty minutes hair & makeup as usual?

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lemmy.world

Well I might be a fattie freaky weirdo beardo, but I saw you lift weights and, well, that's it.

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I might be an alcoholic, but I saw you in a tub of liquor and, well, that's it

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lemmy.world

Ffs... Beardos? Pete just can't grow a beard because he's not fucking man enough. How is it manly to engage in purely cosmetic rituals to make one look more child-like daily?

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lemmy.today

And some people in the military have a no-shaving order from the medic because shaving irritates their skin.

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I'm one of those people who would. My beard hair is curly, and daily shaving leaves me with razor bumps and ingrown hairs. It's much easier to keep a trimmed beard.

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lemmy.today

pseudofolliculitis, some men like AA people are more prone to it. i get it from time to time from shaving. a pimple from pseudofollculitis often refills with the pus(non bacteria) and it takes longer to heal and cause a bloody scab.

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Hilarious when people prefer acronyms rather than spelling out long words so the reader can choose to interpret it however we want. Pete Hegseth needs African Americans, meanwhile Alcoholics Anonymous members of the military get pus-filled ingrown hairs when they shave their beards 😂

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lemmy.world

I’m sure the recruitment numbers are doing great with that kind of leadership.

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Sadly the economy they enshitified into an affordability crisis are driving recruitment. All the branches are meeting their quotas.

This despite the conditions on the Lincoln. This despite that Hegseth is denying advancement to non-white, non-male non-MAGA officers.

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What a great idea Pete. It's a good job that no future war will ever involve computers, electronics or creative problem solving.

/s

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cub Guccireply
lemmy.today

Indeed. Unfortunately, the best system programmers I know are all trans.

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Why does he… walk? move? like his suit is too tight for him in like… all the places?

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feddit.nl

Bro got his entire education of Vietnam from 80's B movies and didn't even watch First Blood

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Didn't Iran just kick his warrior ass? Do we not have to personally and sincerely apologize to the entire world because we elected these bozos, and let them trash the global economy?

I want my woke military back. I want my DEI federal government back.

(Actually I want them to be way more woke and DEI than they were.)

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I would prefer them back too, but i have the suspicion that american exceptionalism will not cope well with being shunned and marked as untrustworthy backstabbers by the rest of the world.

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At this point the only apology they'll accept is a regime change and major structural changes.

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lemmy.world

the USA is circling the drain ane these are the priorities of the clown in charge… lol

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FaceDeerreply
fedia.io

It's circling the drain because these are the priorities of the clowns in charge. As desired by the people who elected said clowns.

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Yeah, fascism demands aesthetic victory over strategic victory. It has a narcissistic value system in a way where face is prioritized above everything else. The sort of value system where someone would rather gild their walls than insulate them

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Not really, but I think they did liberal stuff like paying for gender affirming surgery, etc, so long as you supported the war economy

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slrpnk.net

Right? Everyone knows the military industrial complex is woke as hell. That's basically it's reason for existing in the first place

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they even have UNIVERSAL health care, somewhat on HOUSING too, and plus prferences for jobs and COLLEGE registration that citizens dont have.

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Does that mean he's going to resign them? Was he using a classification of weirdo that is different to everybody else's.

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lemmy.zip

How long til he includes no black or gay folks, no women, no libs, and no one with a college degree?

Wonder when jackboots are being added to the uniform.

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They're already included in that statement, it's only barely a dogwhistle, almost a regular one.

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his next move is to get rid of the GI bill or make only white people are eligible, which produces "woke" people.

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piefed.social

Wonder when jackboots are being added to the uniform.

I seem to recall that the new "space force" uniform has them, so I suspect the answer is "whenever they next redesign the uniform to look even more cartoonishly ridiculous".

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sh.itjust.works

First he'll want to bring back the all-black battalions to send on more dangerous missions.

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Raiderkevreply
lemmy.world

And the ever important operation get behind the darkies.

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lemmy.world

no one with a college degree

Welp there goes almost the entire officer corps lol

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Today, on the World's Weirdest Gameshow, it's Peeeeeeete "The Keg" HegseeeeeEEEEEEeeeth!

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sopuli.xyz

Ok, Hegshit, call this guy out

I want to be present.

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given the rifle, probably an anti-armour sniper... basically, spend a few days in a hole in your own piss to put a fist-sized hole in a vehicle a couple km away

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Brilliant. Make get shot at for protecting the interest of demented pedo billionaires even less attractive as an occupational option. Superb recruiting Pete!

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lemmy.world

He is a sentient landfill with advanced syphilitic psychosis.

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lemmy.world

The funnier one, look up "Pete hegseth axe throwing".

This guy, head of American military lol.

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Rapists, paedophiles and zoophiles are allowed though, both in the millitary, in the FBI, and of course in the white house

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lemmy.world

They only want Christian Radicals. So no more surfer dudes and skater boys.

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okay. he is a weirdo and a radical, so he is leaving? doubt it, but that would be the logical next step.

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It’s a wild thing. So the term grew out of the manosphere actually, it was mainly a term for present fathers who steered their boys away from that garbage because they recognized it was only going to hurt them. It kind of grew from there to encapsulate everything they hate. Now, they associate beards with hipsters, dads, LGBT+, nerds who like games, music, books, theatre, and basically any man with a soul and two brain cells to rub together, which is precisely who they see as the enemy because they’re so transparently evil.

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lemmy.world

the complete opposite, he mostly makes lgbt meme videos these days. he always greets the audience as "beardos and weirdos"

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"I am directing the Secretary of the Army to implement a comprehensive transformation strategy, streamline its force structure, eliminate wasteful spending, reform..."

lol

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There's a nice series by a military historian examining the whole "warrior" concept throughout history, capping off with commentary on just what that means for the present and why the "Cult of the Badass" is such a horrible, concerning thing.

Keg-seth is a problem for so many reasons, and his Warrior obsession is a big one.

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The warriors that left hundreds of millions of dollars of military aircraft to be destroyed on the ground this year? Or some other ones?

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I think it’s just their way of getting rid of anyone that would say no to illegal orders, ie not doing a coup to keep Repugs in power, or attacking US citizens.

Conveniently, it also sends the message that the rest of us are bad or lesser than.

These two points work together to stop progressives from gaining any ground and putting down the inevitable rebellion.

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Not fair to all the young entrepreneurs who went all in on the beard oil and moustache wax businesses.

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Only pathetic chuds who will absolutely PISS themselves the first time they're sent into combat for the Epstein class and find out it's not like CoD at all...

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I think we need to apply Kegsbreath's same energy to removing the cockroaches from our neighborhoods and cities. Conservatives can live in the fucking woods. They should be denied access to absolutely anything a normal society has to offer.

Conservatives hate science, distrust doctors, burn books, loathe education, and want to genocide anyone who isn't as evil and stupid as they are. We don't need them crowding our stores, infesting our hospitals, polluting our water and stealing our air. They need to be completely excluded from normal civilization. Permanently.

It is deeply immoral to keep any conservative as a family member or friend. Never employ them and absolutely never leave one alone with a child. A conservative is pure evil and can never be trusted. Never.

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Speaking of… How great would it be for his ass to get tossed off the Martha’s Vineyard ferry?

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For months I'm saying to myself the US is a seek country. Everything I read or hear about them confirms my view.

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lemmy.world

lead by the man with the word kafir tattooed in Arabic on his bicep 🥴

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Can't fix this country til these closeted cult freaks like Hegseth are in jail.

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Yep you're right that's why you're eating excrement in Iran. Enjoy the shit sandwich you ordered! Rate 5 stars.

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