Are they where you are? That stinks, they are cheap here in the US, especially years ago. All the mounts are custom designed and printed by me: https://nowsci.com/pegboard/
$23 for a 1.2m by 2.4 m wooden pegboard sounds like a dream. Here, you're looking easily at £100...
Very impressed by your 3d mounts though, I'm still in the process of setting up my Voron. I'm finally down to the electrics, and am getting some weird shorting behaviour with my z-endstop, but slowly and steadily debugging it
Loved my Voron v0.2 build, so much fun and got lucky without many problems. The display kept screwing it up, so disconnected it and it's been happy since. Which Voron? At that price for pegboard, printing some multi board might be cheaper! I considered doing that since I have a big boy printer, too, but decided to stick with the pegboard.
I know what crimping is, and I know how to terminate an Ethernet cable, but I don't know why you'd want to crimp 4 things at once and don't know what those socket things you're crimping on are?
Ferrules - great for terminal blocks, wagos etc. It's just for crimping one - the stripped wire goes into the plastic end, and the metal sheathing is crimped down onto the exposed wire.
Am I the only one to call them 'light orange' instead of 'orange-stripe'? I know they aren't that color, yet whenever I'm crimping a cable and have to repeat the colors to get them in order...
I assume he has since disappeared under mysterious circumstances, at the same time as all of his coworkers were somewhere else on a walk together (or so they swear)
You've apparently never pulled hundreds of feet of ethernet cable from racks or under raised datacenter floors. Without these, you're replacing that connector once it pops loose from the tangle without a tab
People who work on highrises. Ownership and management really have no concept of what they are asking when they say the server room needs to go from one side of the building to another, especially if there is satellite internet. Fuck satellite internet.
Your infrastructure cabling shouldn't ever be terminated to rj45. That should always be terminated to a keystone jack.
But even if you're dealing with cables that were terminated into rj45 and need to be relocated with rj45s at the new location, you should just go ahead and cut the ends off. The cable can get snagged and stuck with the end on.
Broadcast jobs. Every single job you run, and then later pull, dozens or hundreds of data cables.
Oh, labelling? Forget it. You'll label the first batch, and then be in a frantic rush that nothing else is labelled. Just a messy spreadsheet that you try to not forget.
yeah same. I can count on one hand the number of times I've ripped lock tabs off, meanwhile the number of times the stiff protective boot makes it impossible to unclip when it is cold or more than 5yo is easily in the thousands.
Also reterminating a plug with a broken lock tab takes like 5 minutes to cut and crimp.. Or be a real chad and throw a strip of duct tape to hold it in and say fuckit.
Used to run LAN parties. We had a big bag of ethernet cables we inherited from the people who ran it before us, and like 50% of them had no tab. Eventually we chucked them out.
I have an optiplex micro I bought off eBay that has the opposite of the locking tab on the jack broken out. Piece of string tied around the cable then wrapped around the chassis to hold it in place.
Yes! I freaking hate boots and I’ve never really yanked a cable from the end where it would get stuck on something and I’ve been under a lot of desks and in telco closets/data centers.
I’m a “push buttons” computer nerd, not a “series of tubes” computer nerd
Why does this thing exist? What’s it for? Please treat me like one of the chimps from 2001 discovering the monolith, because that’s what the network is to me.
Also left one can fuck right off. Nobody tells me what I can’t unplug.
The one on the right can still have the boot’s tab slip under the plug’s tab, preventing the plug’s tab from being physically depressed far enough to release the plug from the socket.
I used to have to fix these terminations after Joe Dick Corp Guy would break them off. It was mind numbing work, kind of like being on shopping cart duty at a grocery store.
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Medic!
Finally a thread for me!
I like the protected tabs because barring any absurd workspace dimensions I can use the plastic as extra leverage to press down on the tab with.
And I like sliding the Ethernet Foreskin over the terminal after I'm done assembling it ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Plus you can re-use the covers later for sex later
The time so nice, they said it twice
Recite the Ode after me:
Orange-stripe Orange, Green-Stripe Blue,
Blue-Stripe Green, Brown-Stripe Brown
Also: my life improved immensely when I decided to spend 12 quid to buy this:
I literally sploosh every time I use it. Doesn't matter what the wire, length, thickness, or girth. They crimp all the same
Mine, hold your excitement, mine crimps from six sides at once!!! SIX!!
Oh shit, should I send mine back?? I got it yesterday, but not sure if I cheaped out. Is 6 better than 4?
I have no clue, probably not 😅
I just wanted to add to it. And I love how the crimp... things close!
I know! It's sooo satisfying
Same. https://sh.itjust.works/post/65657453
Except for the 12 quid part
The wall behind me. Chin up, no drooling.
Good crimpers and strippers are worth their weight in what you paid for them in pennies.
I'm impressed mostly by the size of that peg board. They're surprisingly expensive...!
Are they where you are? That stinks, they are cheap here in the US, especially years ago. All the mounts are custom designed and printed by me: https://nowsci.com/pegboard/
$23 for a 1.2m by 2.4 m wooden pegboard sounds like a dream. Here, you're looking easily at £100...
Very impressed by your 3d mounts though, I'm still in the process of setting up my Voron. I'm finally down to the electrics, and am getting some weird shorting behaviour with my z-endstop, but slowly and steadily debugging it
Loved my Voron v0.2 build, so much fun and got lucky without many problems. The display kept screwing it up, so disconnected it and it's been happy since. Which Voron? At that price for pegboard, printing some multi board might be cheaper! I considered doing that since I have a big boy printer, too, but decided to stick with the pegboard.
What is this?
I know what crimping is, and I know how to terminate an Ethernet cable, but I don't know why you'd want to crimp 4 things at once and don't know what those socket things you're crimping on are?
Ferrules - great for terminal blocks, wagos etc. It's just for crimping one - the stripped wire goes into the plastic end, and the metal sheathing is crimped down onto the exposed wire.
I need to get some of these for my audio cable
And you just stick all the Ethernet wires in? Like a nasty naughty little thing.
Are we sure Lemmy doesn't have an algorithm? This is the second comment dropping the Golden Crimping Code i see in like 5 minutes
Lemmy Code: Shun capitalism and push crimping products. You will comply.
Orange on left
Brown on right
Stripe solid stripe solid
Green green was the worst anime I have ever fucking seen
Green green bad
I hate that this is what works for me
New core memory.
Am I the only one to call them 'light orange' instead of 'orange-stripe'? I know they aren't that color, yet whenever I'm crimping a cable and have to repeat the colors to get them in order...
"white orange" in my neck of the woods.
"Doctor, are you sure this will work!?"
"HAHA, I have NO IDEA!"
Guy I used to work with would intentionally break off the latch on every cable he touched, rendering this question moot.
I assume he has since disappeared under mysterious circumstances, at the same time as all of his coworkers were somewhere else on a walk together (or so they swear)
That guy must get around because I have seen far too many cables like that in important racks.
Literally never found myself wanting one of these on my cable. I've found myself swearing at them more times than I can remember
You've apparently never pulled hundreds of feet of ethernet cable from racks or under raised datacenter floors. Without these, you're replacing that connector once it pops loose from the tangle without a tab
Who's pulling hundreds of feet of already terminated cable?
People who work on highrises. Ownership and management really have no concept of what they are asking when they say the server room needs to go from one side of the building to another, especially if there is satellite internet. Fuck satellite internet.
Your infrastructure cabling shouldn't ever be terminated to rj45. That should always be terminated to a keystone jack.
But even if you're dealing with cables that were terminated into rj45 and need to be relocated with rj45s at the new location, you should just go ahead and cut the ends off. The cable can get snagged and stuck with the end on.
Broadcast jobs. Every single job you run, and then later pull, dozens or hundreds of data cables.
Oh, labelling? Forget it. You'll label the first batch, and then be in a frantic rush that nothing else is labelled. Just a messy spreadsheet that you try to not forget.
Your comment is giving me flashbacks. We did label all our cables though (with masking tape and a marker).
Every gig I would tell myself I'd label everything. On average I'd label 95% of video cables, and 50% of the data cables
Couldn't you tape it over when pulling?
I also have tape
Everyone is right on the internet
How are you rebooting a switch with a connector?
Some dumber manufacturers put the reset button right above a port, such that the clip cover can bump it on insertion.
Sorry, dumb and corrupt manufacturers.
Same energy.
This Cisco field notice has diagrams for the curious.
Hey! You made me click a Cisco URL! My phone is provably infected now!
Cisco
How many versions of this diagram did Cisco make 😄
In some cases it presses the button that is right above the eathernet slots
It presses the button or else it gets the hose again.
I've never seen that button reboot a switch. If held during a reboot it will interrupt the boot process but not initiate it.
As some mentioned, Cisco. 10 years ago I had to work with one of it's partners, and this was a massive deal.
Spent months just making sure everywhere it was stated they had that issue.
I always circumcise my RJ45 connectors before plugging them in.
Great, now I'm going to call these RJ45 foreskins.
I'm a no boot man, causes more issues then they solve.
yeah same. I can count on one hand the number of times I've ripped lock tabs off, meanwhile the number of times the stiff protective boot makes it impossible to unclip when it is cold or more than 5yo is easily in the thousands.
Also reterminating a plug with a broken lock tab takes like 5 minutes to cut and crimp.. Or be a real chad and throw a strip of duct tape to hold it in and say fuckit.
Used to run LAN parties. We had a big bag of ethernet cables we inherited from the people who ran it before us, and like 50% of them had no tab. Eventually we chucked them out.
I have an optiplex micro I bought off eBay that has the opposite of the locking tab on the jack broken out. Piece of string tied around the cable then wrapped around the chassis to hold it in place.
5 min to fix is generous too. That includes finding your tools before and putting them away after.
There’s a secret third option I didn’t include
Yes! I freaking hate boots and I’ve never really yanked a cable from the end where it would get stuck on something and I’ve been under a lot of desks and in telco closets/data centers.
than*
How is it hard to get right?
Maybe they meant that they solve the issues after causing them. Who can really know?
One on the right, when asked about "some switches":
I prefer bareback
This is the way.
And ideally, never pull out.
The one on the right, every day. The one on the left is a pain in the ass to disconnect.
* poorly designed switches
Reboots some switches is a pro.
The one on the left gets the utility knife circumcision.
If you cut the bottom of the hood halfway, it protects the tab but still squishes to disconnect. I've lost too many tabs to the full circumcision.
Neither. I choose neither.
I’m a “push buttons” computer nerd, not a “series of tubes” computer nerd
Why does this thing exist? What’s it for? Please treat me like one of the chimps from 2001 discovering the monolith, because that’s what the network is to me.
Also left one can fuck right off. Nobody tells me what I can’t unplug.
We're running that cable direct into the case and soldering the connectors, just for you. We'll decide when you can disconnect.
VGA port: "I'm tired, boss"
Cable's like
I mean that's why VGA connectors have screws, right?
and this is why NEC requires clamps on wires housed in boxes through walls.
It’s there so the little plastic tab that keeps the Ethernet cable plugged in doesn’t break easily.
Because honestly, those little plastic tabs are a shit design for keeping something important plugged in.
Thank you, I imagine it’s incredibly annoying when those break.
Eh, just takes a few minutes to replace. Though if you do it too often you can start to run into length issues.
Time for you to discover 'locking Ethernet' which has its own pros and cons
Gotta love how "memes" is just computing memes and we are all fine with it anyway.
Choose B and better switches
If you can't so that, choose B and use scissors to shorten the guard a hair
Neither, cable boots are a pain in the ass no matter the design.
Broken tab on the cable, using tape to keep it in the port.
Chaos monkey… engage
🐒
The one on the right can still have the boot’s tab slip under the plug’s tab, preventing the plug’s tab from being physically depressed far enough to release the plug from the socket.
Left
I used to have to fix these terminations after Joe Dick Corp Guy would break them off. It was mind numbing work, kind of like being on shopping cart duty at a grocery store.