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I love how that's just a normal thing to do here. One of the first green flags I ever got about this site

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lemmy.world

Exhibit A for "If buying isn't owning, then piracy isn't stealing."

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sh.itjust.works

To be totally fair, they didn't buy this book, they borrowed it. Still a good reason to use other libraries

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Well, true. But it sounds like the library didn't own the book either, all things considered.

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There’s always Anna’s Archive or Z Library. Those copies won’t ever go away

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Piracy is a service problem.

I'm not advocating for piracy, but they're doing it to themselves.

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lemmy.today

Honestly I just want to bitcoin/zelle/venmo/whatever the author a little money for his awesome book and shortcut everything

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kestrel7_7reply
lemmy.world

This is why I just pirate whatever music I want, then go to shows and hand the musicians cash. Never gotten a bad reaction, everybody wins this way.

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Yes, pirating to cut all the middle leeches then sending the artist money directly seems like the most sensible way to me.

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reddthat.com

Side note: you know what is fucking wild about bibles? It's an amalgamation of some really, really old shit, and despite that, there are numerous copyrighted versions. King James is not one of them, but there are a lot.

They get around being Public Domain by virtue of being "novel translations", but when you see the differences between them, it seems like largely bullshit.

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Psythikreply
lemmy.world

Same except instead of Jellyfin I have Nuvio because I rather have a one-click streaming solution, rather than having to manually build a library from my existing media.

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Echo Dotreply
feddit.uk

Basically all I want is a system that stores my shows in some sort of logical order and keeps track of where I am in a movie / episode other than that I don't need much more.

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SirLeToetreply
lemmy.world

It does the same no, stream your library anywhere. Thats what Jellyfin does, Netflixify your personal library

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Psythikreply
lemmy.world

From what I understand, no it doesn't. You still need a personal library for it to work. With Nuvio, you don't need anything at all. Just pick a show/movie you want to watch, and watch it.

With Jellyfin, you have to take the time to rip your discs (or pirate them), then add them to your Jellyfin library. There is no such issue with Nuvio. It's basically Netflix + Prime + Disney + HBO + Peacock + Crunchyroll + everything else combined into a single app. No "personal library" required.

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Pretty much, yeah, except it can utilize Debrid services, Usenet, I2P, etc. as well, not just bittorrent. The base app itself can't actually pirate anything on its own; you use plug-ins to facilitate that ability. (Without any plug-ins, the only thing it can do is list movies/shows and where to purchase them from, which is how its able to be listed in app stores.)

And yes, when paired with Debrid, it basically works llke PopcornTime. One person downloads the torrent, then it's stored on a server where anyone using the same service can stream it instantly without having to wait for seeds. It's really simple and convenient, much easier than downloading the torrents yourself then sticking them onto Jellyfin. Just open the app, pick something to watch, and watch it.

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Funkt4st1creply
lemmy.world

You point jellyfin at a folder with media, and press a button. Ideally you separate them into tv and movies, but you can absolutely just lazily point and shoot.

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Psythikreply
lemmy.world

Again, I don't HAVE a folder of media. I don't WANT a folder of media! That's the entire reason why I switched to Nuvio! I got tired of having to rip discs and download torrents to build said "folder of media". I just want to stream.

Honestly I don't understand why you guys insist on fighting me about this. Clearly y'all don't understand what Nuvio does. I implore you to look up how it works before you reply again. Please, for my mental health!

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Funkt4st1creply
lemmy.world

I... Dont understand the problem? Like if you want to just double click a file and open in VLC, just do that? If you have any level of organization at all, you have a folder of media??

Like, i have a folder thats /media/shows. I want them in a library, so i tell jellyfin that /media/shows is my library, wait maybe 20 seconds and i have a netflix level library.

Im not fighting you. I simply dont understand why you either...

  1. have some level of organization and thus can point jellyfin at it

or

  1. have no organixation whatsoever and thus just double click to open in VLC

Update; i understand secret 3rd option of

  1. you simply have no media on your pc whatsoever and thus want a collection of sources to stream from

Which i can respect. Im horrified, but, i respect it.

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Yes, it's option 3. Why are you so "horrified" by this? Does the concept of people watching YouTube/Freetube/Piped horrify you too?

Look, this isn't music we're talking about; when it comes to movies and TV, I see no point in building a personal library, just how I see no point in downloading YouTube videos. I have my favorites that I'll re-watch once in a blue moon, yes, but generally once I'm done with a movie/episode, I'm done with it for good. Therefore I see no point in having a movie/TV collection wasting valuable hard drive space.

Before I discovered Stremio/Nuvio, my workflow was like this:
Boot up PC > fire UP VPN and open Firefox > Navigate to 1337X > search for something to watch (assuming that I already know what I want to watch) > click magnet link and wait for seeds > transfer file to Jellyfin library > boot up TV > open Jellyfin and watch > delete file

After switching, my workflow is now this:
Boot up TV > Open Nuvio > Browse for movie/show > Watch

I hope I explained it well enough by now. Do you understand the difference now? One of these options requires way more work than the other. Nuvio works exactly like Netflix. It even recommends you content based on your viewing history. No personal library required.

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orgrinrtreply
lemmy.world

First time I hear that name, how does it differ from stremio, which it seems to parallel heavily?

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General improvements upon stremio in various aspects. Stremio's Android TV app just constantly crashes or fails to get sources for me, so I switched.

This one has stuff like separate profiles w/pin passwords, (imo) nicer and faster UI, and has integrations like aniskip.

It also can directly use stremio's addons and there are ways to import your watch history, addons and libraries, so it is super easy to migrate

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You're welcome.

Shadow Library Uptime Monitor (SLUM)

Tracking public availability status for shadow library services

https://open-slum.org/

When libgen went down and I wanted to keep reading the uncle festers guides, I came across this one.

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I tend to misplace my good friend Anna's address, thank you for this.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Doesn't seem to be accurate, I can only reach the first zlibrary link. It may be my ISP 🤷‍♂️. Very cool project though.

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Very cool project though.

I thank the person or people who's created it too.

I have no part in the creation or ownership of that site. I have no idea who created or owns the site.

I just spread the site whenever I have the opportunity.

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lemmy.world

Yeah I'm gonna guess it's based on whatever service you are using losing distribution rights to it, because the book is available in the US pretty much everywhere.

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well, then it would be your borrowing time ran out, perhaps, and the app just said 'screw you' instead of offering a check-out renewal

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snoonsreply
lemmy.ca

Ohhh don't tell anyone but I get all my ebooks from my cities library with Calibre. There's an extension you can add that removes the drm (afaicr it was made by the same guy that created drm) and now you have the full ebook.

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I know ;)

I still want to give the author money for an excellent book though. I'll find a way to buy it.

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feddit.uk

They’re showing a UK edition. British books arent generally available in the US or vice versa when a domestic edition is available.

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lemmy.world

That's the original US book version. The UK version is white and yellow.

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Note the pull quote at the top is attributed to The Times. This is the current UK edition cover.

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lemmy.ca

How TF does this happen to a book sitting in your hands? I have never had this happen to any of my books, hardcover or paperback.

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lemmy.world

I have dropped a book into the bath. Strictly speaking it wasn't unavailable, but it was unreadable.

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feddit.org

But at least it was your own fault. Much easier to forgive yourself than a global kafkaesque system of greed-driven bureaucracy.

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My epub calibre also shows no signs of manipulation in the timestamps...Very weird...

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sh.itjust.works

That sucks that whatever service you got lost the license, but I appreciate you giving me a new book to read!

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gruereply
lemmy.world

The other party losing rights shouldn't be allowed to cancel their obligation to OP.

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No kidding, at least from OPs title they were only borrowing and hadn’t purchased it. If a company did that to me after I bought a book I’d be skipping my merry way to Z-Library and never touching that company again :)

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No kidding, I got halfway through before I had to stop for bed! I love the existential philosophy of it so far, very much reminds me of SOMA.

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This is the central problem with digital ownership. It isn't real. You don't own anything.

If you have a file which contains the book and has no Digital Restrictions Management on it then you own the book in the same way as if you have the physical book.

If you borrow a book from the library you could make a copy by scanning all the pages and then give the original back. Alternatively you could refuse to return it and pay the replacement cost. In either case you actually had the book with full access.

If you "borrow" the book in apps like this you are not getting the whole thing unencumbered, you are getting something more similar to a webcam view of a page turning robot. Yes you can read the text, but you can't make any changes, mark a spot, read it offline, take a photocopy, and so on. Many of these apps block screenshots, and many also block copy and paste.

It is crazy to me that in order to have reasonable access to a book you have no legal option in many cases. I recently bought Azalea Ellis' books and they are all in a plain eBook format or in a plain audio book format. No DRM, no limits. That means I can use the audio book as I want, which in my case means adding it to my AudioBookShelf server. I can cache it to my phone one book at a time or even the whole series in one go. I can play it at whatever speed I like, 2x is my normal, and nobody can stop me. I can listen to it as many times as I like.

If nobody will sell me the book without DRM I don't consider it buying. They are leasing the book, renting access to it, but I never fool myself into thinking I own it. I don't actually own anything on a PS5, nor on Steam. While Steam has not turned evil yet it is always a possibility, so I treat those licences as access rentals and assume they are temporary.

From a moral perspective if you van have it taken away you don't own it, and if you buying isn't owning then piracy isn't theft. Any claims that someone stole from a publisher when the publisher was claiming they were selling the game are bunk. If they actually sold the game, as GOG does, then it would be theft. But if they only sell a licence for access then it isn't selling the game, and it is therefore not theft.

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Okay, now if you could explain it to my "But no, they're on my Google account" sister, and preferably before she loses interest and starts talking about something else...

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lemmy.world

Is there any chance it's showing as unavailable because they've renamed it to Mickey 17? I'm sure you've checked that, but just in case...

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lemmy.world

The book is still Mickey7. The movie they released based on it is Mickey 17.

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Oh yeah, I know - I just meant that someone might have (erroneously) changed it in the backend of whatever site that is. Was always a long shot though.

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Redpushpinreply
lemmy.world

You do know that the people in charge of America currently, may never have read a book.

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It's someone's alt created three years ago, probably getting dusted off for the midterms.

For myself, I've blocked it. I don't need that intrusive political shit.

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lemmy.world

That's strange. It's available on any US storefront that I pull up.

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They were reading a UK edition, which has never been available in the US.

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reptarreply
lemmy.world

Haven't heard of it, haven't googled it, have my own solutions,

But I'm pretty sure what you're doing and thank to for your service.

And now to investigate...

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lemmy.ca

It's software for hosting your eBooks. I have it on my Debian server and can grab it from any device with a browser. (on network or tunneling in).

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0x0reply
lemmy.zip

How does it compare to calibre?

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I had this happen multiple times while binging new shows...

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lemmy.world

I’m not necessarily against the gradual removal of physical media, and that’s not because I’m defending Sony or anything like that. We’ve been downloading games digitally for decades, and physical media has increasingly gone the way of the DVD. That transition itself doesn’t really bother me.

That said, I absolutely agree that what they’re doing here is bullshit, and physical media is objectively more consumer-friendly in a lot of ways. I’m just saying I understand the argument from a different perspective.

Because when it comes to books, I’m exactly the opposite.

I want an actual physical book. Paper pages, a cover, the whole thing. I’ve tried reading digitally, and I just can’t get into it. Something about reading a book on a screen feels completely wrong to me.

So I guess I understand the attachment to physical media more than I initially thought. I just happen to draw the line in a very different place.

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i've had that happen a few times over the years streaming tv or movies. have it stop part-way and not be available to continue.

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Makes you wonder what they didn't want you to see. Guess you'll never know now. They probably already removed the juicy bits.

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