World-first biological data center packs 16 mn living human neurons
A Biological Data Centre represents a new generation of computing infrastructure. Instead of relying solely on conventional silicon chips, it uses “wetware” — living biological neurons derived from stem cells — to process information and support AI systems. In contrast to traditional data centres, which depend on energy-intensive servers, biological computing offers the potential for significantly greater efficiency by harnessing brain-like organoids that can operate using only a fraction of the power required by digital computers.
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Aww yeah, screaming datacenter timeline unlocked.
So deeply unethical it’s unreal.
16 mano-neters?
I reject the notion of calling this a data center. A single rack with 20 little pods is not a data center.
They just want to be a data center, because data centers are currently on investor minds.
Anyone else read this:
And wonder what they were trying to say or why they said it this way?
Here is the part in question:
Ok, AND? What does air cooling have to do with anything? Is wetware NON standard air cooling?
Either way, isnt this the section where you say Traditional Data Centers rely on electricity, and these rely on X, Y or Z? Nutrient baths? Sump pumps?
They copy-pasted part of the wikipedia to explain something they don't really understand.
Yeah especially since wetware systems basically use their foodbaths to carry away heat. It's not hard...but someone decided mentioning these things are "alive" might draw some ire
As grim as it sounds, this is probably just a grift. It sounds like they're using stem cells as wires, and they'll die eventually. There's some ai word salad in the article too.
This is definitely a grift.
Most importantly, "AI" doesn't exist. Secondly there is absolutely zero "AI" technologies that need "support" from these petri dishes.
Hmmm... Later in the article it changes from "it uses to support AI" to "it could complement AI". Curious.
Actually the first quote from OP isn't even in the article. Did they update it because it's fake?
In the grimdark present of humanity...
We must sacrifice the newborns en masse!
The emperor protects
One day, we will look back to the time when people were allowed to die with tired unblinking eyes.
Uh oh
woopsie
This will in no way come back to "haunt" us...
I was there. They let me take a picture of the tech.
They should use the neurons of the tech oligarchs if they’re so smart.
They'll have to add ketamine to the bionutrient slurry.
That’s my breakfast smoothie.
a meal for a champ!
Ah these guys. Weren't they the ones using electo shock therapy on their "organoids" to "teach" (force) them to play Doom?
https://hwbusters.com/news/human-brain-cells-on-a-chip-learned-to-play-doom-in-a-week/
And didn't said organoids mysteriously "fire" the moment someone walked into the lab?
https://www.sciencealert.com/brain-tissue-grown-in-the-lab-produces-brainwaves-resemblings-pre-term-babies
Nah, it'll be fine.
Hey, here's a cool idea. Why not take "samples" from "neurodivergent" children (let's say... 1500cm^3... throw in some spinal cord), finely sliced, and bathe them in Adderal, Dr Fucking Mengele. Just think how "on task" the compute will be!
In fairness, the ScienceAlert piece notes that if any start to show signs of consciousness, they will "consider" shutting the project down.
Which is reassuring in the way that a fire extinguisher on a rocket is reassuring.
PS: sorry if I was unclear. STOP FUCKING CREATING BRAINS IN A VAT, YOU FUCKING MONSTERS.
"if they show signs of consciousness we'll shut it down" is so absolutely batshit especially when you consider people like me learned while in school that fish don't feel any pain.
We were extremely confidently incorrect about that one.....
This is fucking abhorrent.
Making them stupid so they don't appear "human"
Yup, I ain't donating none of my DNA, stem cells or nothing. Sorry organ receiver, I don't want clones of me being used in endless hellish torment after I'm gone. Burn every trace of my existence, thanks. Gonna live like Jerome in Gataca, with a little vacuum cleaner to clean up after my skin cells.
Imagine this company landed the 23 and me database which was sold at open auction?
Heh the angel of death got to live out a full life. I mentioned this in another post; don't be surprised if your brain gets cross sectioned and scanned before being cremated.
You sure we haven't been already?
Ah. This is a simulation.
We must have done something heinous in “the real.”
Or you opposed roko's Basilisk.
Yeah, that checks out.
Well, I hurt somebody's feelings once
I'm sure it's been going on for a while at this point
I'm pretty sure they want Pantheon as the endgame. Xeroscaping your brain into an image, an image they can spin up and make you work in VR forever.
That would suck so bad. I hope someone will give me a double tap and destroy mine when I pass.
The worms will make sure we are more sufficiently scrambled, than any God-AI can re-assemble.
yo hold up, wetware is an actual thing? Since fucking when?
Quite some time now. Idk why they bother with making baby brains, when we have mostly functioning brains they can extract from us for cheap, to put into their kill and sex bots.
Lovely. Man-made horrors beyond our comprehension.
I think that's true in a very literal sense
that sounds dangerously close to being a human
Dear humanity,
Consider maybe not.
Thanks,
-A Human
Yay, torment nexus, and if it isn't yet, it will be soon.
This was signed off by an ethics review board...
Behold, the incredibly efficient human. It eats garbage, live about 80 years, adapts to any fucking environment….
Yea but it’s just not expensive enough.
You forgot: can be mass produced using unskilled labour
Unskilled!? how dare you
Edit: checked with previous encounters and ... Yeah you are correct.
This research will be funding Chairs at university Ethics departments for decades to come.
New grift just dropped
Oh so they are aiming for that evangelion shit . Cool cool cool Cool cool cool Cool cool cool
the star trek repair station, it abduct aliens and uses brains of humans to power its AI.
What.
It's ironic because no one can prove that our universe and existence there-in is not an identical hellscape used to power the ai of some larger more superior form of sentience.
Are you suggesting our universe is just slavery with extra steps?
I mean the best way to keep prisoners content is to never let them know they're in a prison 🤷
Imagine our overlords' amusement when they see us create a simulation to enslave ourselves within their own simulation.
Shut up and get on the gooble box
Came here looking for a comment referencing Neelix cheese... And I'm disappointed. I expected more from y'all. Where's my niche Star Trek Voyager reference?
They all died with Tuvix
Cool. I wonder what the maintenance looks like for those, and programming.
If it's anything like me, it only needs sugar water and potato chips.
This is the worst fucking idea I've ever heard. Please don't create the Mother Brain and hook it up to the internet.
Also: Does it count as AGI if it's just a gigantic human brain?
Honestly though, let's just do it. The world is gonna end no matter what we do at this point, at least this finale is interesting.
I was bullshitting with my friends one night talking about nonsense like how we would die. One of the friends pipes up and says if they got cancer or something horrible that they would try and take out as many people as possible. I asked them what they meant and they said they would steal a bus and run over a bunch of people. I was stunned and asked why and they said they wouldn't go out like a bitch.
You should sow some better targets into your friends subconscious. Get them mad at someone other than their fellow workers.
No offense but your friend sounds like a bitch.
Like if I said "yeah no I'm really tough I can punch a baby" I would be a pussy 110%. Like no shit you could punch a baby, they are like cannocially helpless. Fight a boxer or something smh
I never looked at them the same again. It was a chick to.
🫤
they will soon to use real human brains eventually.
Soon? Human brains power this simulation
I'm sure "mn" means "mamoneters."
(the correct abbreviation is MM, a la Roman numeral M for 1000. Mil Mil, or, 1000x1000.)
I think they were trying to abbreviate million
Which is why I provided the correct way to do so. edit: both are correct.
No? https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mn
And yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1,000,000
Which also says that mn is common..
Sush, don't argue with the fun police.
What interface are you using that has user tagging on .world?
Because I was wrong?
Every day we inch closer to a line the universe will retaliate against us for crossing.
I'm sure people will approach this news story in a sane and well-reasoned manner.
The only argument I have to support this is that they only live 30 days and arent developed enough for consciousness. But thats pretty weak considering they will obviously get better and cross the line thats acceptable. So yeah lets not go down this line of research.
hmm, I should watch that again.
xfiles?
Dollhouse
Don't be fooled. They are illithids in disguise.
first hello world will be ‘kill me’ for this poor thing
So how many neurons would it take to consider forcing Windows Server to run on the wetware a crime against humanity?
Looks like "mars express" is becoming real.
What happens when they grow a brain that has paranoid delusions and wants to destroy us all? What happens when there's a shortage? Can people sell their loved ones to data centers for a high premium, rather than a burial or cremation?
What the fuck?? Did you read the article?
Yeah just now lol, I was being over the top and cynical when I wrote that. Like how whenever shit like this gets brought up, usually there's that one person who brings up, "the matrix." No but when they run out of stem cells, they'll turn on an artificial womb and make more fetal tissue to work with and then people will go up in arms over the fact that, "human life," is being used to support data centers when in reality it's just the cells that can be influenced.
and I mean those are also good questions. like will I be able to get a premium for giving a loved ones body to data centers for battery, rather than cremation or burial? what would happen if they decided to make mini brains and they created a brain that has mental illness or delusions and decides humans are no longer needed?
imagine them growing multiple personality brains and one day it's on manic and we're all in a happy economy and the next it's depressive and we're wondering if the bombs will drop. that's a genuine fear because of how fast people are driving ai expansion they're not 100% thinking about the repercussions.
FUCK MAN!!!! IT TOOK UNTIL THE CREATORS OF ANTHROPIC SAID THERE'S 10 YEARS LEFT FOR PEOPLE TO GIVE A FUCK!!!! So, I worry and think way too far ahead of what could possibly go wrong.