Trump Team Refuses to Explain Imported Beef Origin as Backlash Grows
Pretty sure that the Rolling Stones has a whole song about where this "beef" is coming from.
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The Tyson beef plant that just got shutdown in the Midwest is going to fuck Republicans...
Not because of the 2-3k workers, not because of the increased price consumers pay.
But all the livestock owners who suddenly have nowhere near to slaughter cattle at scale are fucked. Couple that with flooding the market with Argentinian beef, and a lot of Republican voters are going to stay home for midterms.
They might not admit to themselves they want Republicans to lose majorities, and they'll likely spend the next two years bitching about Dems. But a lot of them just won't find the time to vote when they're getting fucked this blatantly
That is primarily a consequence of immigration crackdowns. Beef inflation up 9% while cattle is down 9%+
this is an insight I hadn't considered.
makes intuitive sense but do you have any links or references so people can learn more?
I thought drought was a major factor in beef supply drop but it's probably multiple things
Meat packing is heavily biased towards foreign born workers. The companies have complained about high labour costs.
Cattle prices are from futures market charts. The typical market price effects from narratives of "high beef demand" and "Cattle shortages" would be higher cattle prices.
The US beef supply is squeezed because some big droughts from a couple of years ago forced ranchers to sell off a lot of their herds.
Now, they don't have the herds to supply the demand, and you can't just magick more cows into existence. Once the problem exists, it takes a bunch of time to grow calves into cows.
The problem is exacerbated by a dynamic where the current high prices encourage ranchers to sell their cattle instead of keeping them around to grow the herd.
well maybe YOU can't
neither can I but if we can find the asshat who can but isn't…
And if it came from Argentina like everyone is suspecting, it might be contaminated. It's not like he'd care if it was.
China rejects Argentine beef due to chloramphenicol: investigation and internal consumption crisis
https://noticiasambientales.com/animals/china-rejects-argentine-beef-due-to-chloramphenicol-investigation-and-internal-consumption-crisis/#google_vignette
Nice investigative work - this is the first I've heard about the contamination. It looks like China caught the issue back in March, and its highly likely more of the supply chain was compromised. This would make it subject to further Chinese boycotts, endangering the Argentian economy and screwing Milei because it makes things bumpy for Peter Thiel in his new home.
This is why Trump is both helping Milei and refusing to say where the beef is from.
Btw, these are the side effects of chloramphenicol:
To be clear, I didn't do the investigative work. It was linked in the original Raw Story article: https://www.rawstory.com/beef-import-2677774264/
These days reading the article counts as research. Have an extra upvote for honesty tho ;)
It's so weird to see this identity crisis in action.
The conservatives are actively screwing them over in every possible way, but they cannot imagine voting for a Democrat. You know, because, well, reasons. The dems are city folk. The dems are for loud-mouthed blue-haired women with nose rings. The dems are gonna take their guns and their gigantic truck (and their manhood). Because dems are for "gender ideology". Etc.
Right. All the crap Fox News has been feeding them 24 hours per day, daily for decades now. They live in a different reality where facts don't mean anything.
They also think D's are literal child eating demon worshippers.
I'd rather LOSE my ENTIRE Human Identity then to vote for LOWER Taxes and Healthcare!
-LITERALLY Republican Voters!
I read an article today that there was tons of tainted beef that China turned down back in the spring. I forget which country has it. There is speculation that the US has bought it after that country called US to make deal. I will see if I can find the article.
Edit here is an article about it.
https://www.btimesonline.com/articles/178274/20260825/trump-opens-u-s-to-300-000-tons-of-foreign-beef-as-china-rejects-22-ton-argentine-shipment-over-banned-antibiotic.htm
No surprise that it's Argentina, whose president is friends with Trump.
The president is rotting in an American jail last I checked.
You're thinking of Venezuela.
Shit, you're right, my bad. I shouldn't comment before coffee, lol.
Finally, Trump made access to medecin free...
I'm stocking up on cat food before this shit ends up killing all of our pets.
It's primarily going to be put in animal food and processed foods.
Frozen pizzas. Tv dinners. Canned soups.
Sold to restaurants from their bulk suppliers. Especially fast food places.
Packaged frozen hamburger patties at grocery stores.
Any type of frozen meals with beef.
The big rolls of frozen hamburger.
It's going to be hard to avoid it but not impossible.
Avoid any beef you can't determine where it came from.
I'd just become vegetarian if the veggies weren't also toxic. Republicans really have turned this place into a shit hole
And in this case, literally.
You can cook the vegetables
Well, except for things like lettuce and things like garnish, but...yeah.
I'm so glad I'm a vegetarian when it comes to things like tainted meat, but plenty of vegetarian things can get tainted too, a common one being lettuce.
Ahem,
https://thewoksoflife.com/cooked-lettuce-with-oyster-sauce-garlic/
Cook that lettuce like you hate crapping your pants.
Ahem, You're not gonna treat the contaminated vegetables this short amount of time blanching.
That sounds delicious, thanks. I don't know if there is any substitute for that crunch in salads and on top of something like an Impossible Burger, though...
Idk if this always gets out toxic pesticides. Like the kind that other countries ban that we don't.
Probably helps with the bacteria outbreaks though.
The good news is that they've slashed the CDC's capability of tracking food-borne illness.
And stopped testing food for contaminants at all
you would not believe the stuff they put in cat food.
Yeah I know already it's bad. But at least this problem I can avoid by buying it before it gets in it.
In some countries, they feed cats real food, not "cat food". I lost a cat to intestinal inflammation because I thought I was feeding him properly.
I try feeding my cats boiled meat sometimes. If I cut off the fat or something from something I'm cooking for me, I will dice it up and boil it.
Neither of my cats will eat boiled meat with the exception of my newer cat who was a stray. But even he will only eat canned tuna.
Not turkey. Not ham. Not beef. No chicken.
No lunch meat.
Not even bacon!
I don't get why they don't like the best food for them.
I can't give them tuna all the time because of the mercury.
My older cat likes marshmallows. Weird but it is bone meal based.
The stray will eat some wet food so he gets some every day. But my older cat won't touch the stuff.
🤷
I offer to them and then put outside for a local oppossom when they decline.
I don't like to waste animal products so someone gets it.
Try organ meat, perhaps?
Might be worth trying. I'll look into what kinds are safe. I honestly never thought to try that. 👍
Liver, kidneys, heart. Lungs are probably fine too. The thing about organ meat is that it contains a lot of nutrients that aren't necessarily in muscle meat.
Try feeding them raw meat too, instead of boiling it first. That might be what's causing them to reject it.
If you're not already watching this guy, I recommend you start. He's pretty good. He says there's no way Argentina can produce and export 300k tons of beef in 3 months and it almost certainly comes from Brazil. He also explains why.
https://youtu.be/FB2scx_UmfI
And they can't sell American beef to China anymore because well - you know. Before I went to Sam's club in Shanghai it was mainly USDA beef. Now there is no American beef at all. Only Australian. Which I prefer anyway. It's much better quality and less chemicals inside.
BTW China last week rejected a shipment of Argentinan beef because of banned antibiotics so perhaps it will get rerouted to the US. Where the regime clearly does not care about food safety standards anymore.
Basically, American beef is a hard sell outside the US because it is full of things that don't belong in food in many countries. Of the thousands of beef farmers in the US, there is barely a dozen qualified to deliver beef to the EU. Think about it.
like shit. US fecal counts are insanely high
Did China ever buy it?
The reason why people don’t want it is that it doesn’t meet standards, generally with disease prevention.
That’s why we don’t buy it here in Australia. We would if it met our standards but it never does.
And frankly I wouldn't buy US beef in Australia anyway. Aussie beef is great, probably second only to New Zealand beef to be honest.
Yeah what we do well here is a high grade, standard product.
The quality is very high for the price.
So don't eat beef. Or jalapeños. Or lettuce. Or granola. Or blueberries.
Just don't eat. It's American roulette. The number of recent recalls due to broken glass contamination in everything from popsicles to bread has also risen, but I can understand not being up to speed when the entire food supply is slowly becoming hazardous to your health.
Definitely avoid Driscolls
impossible, Driscolls has a monopoly in grocery stores. Amazing since Driscoll doesn't grow a single berry.
Driscolls is a genetic store house, they contract with farms to make berries year-around. It also gives them plausible deniability on pesticides used in fruits, because legally, they don't grow the berries.
We have to go back to eating local berries in season.
Fortunately my aunt grows blueberries so I have a steady supply of those (they freeze really well). I need another family member to start growing strawberries and raspberries and I’ll be set.
The hell happened to granola?
Though, I'm also realizing I don't really know what granola is... Is it its own plant?
Salmonella outbreak
Ah, "organic moringa powder"! They add that after the granola is baked!
What in the world are these factories doing that they managed to contaminate granola?!
Granola is a style of cooked oat. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granola
And My axe
My friend had a great theory that it's the horses being put to slaughter.
Can we test the beef to determine what animal it came from?
lol and who's going to do that? The FDA? would you trust it if they said it was okay?
I feel like it would at least taste different
Yup, DNA test.
Pretty easy to test for that using DNA testing.
Or just eating it. Taste is different.
Source: in my area we eat horses. A lot.
Genuine question, what is the taste profile of horse meat?
Ok, so one thing I'm terrible at is describing the taste of food, so I'll try my best: it has more flavour than beef, but it's delicate flavour and doesn't taste gamey. It has a shitload of iron. In my experience the taste changes a lot depending on the cut, more than beef, but to be honest, the vast majority of the time I eat horse meat, it's in the form of raw, ground meat.
Thank you!
Having never eaten horse myself, as I've never had the opportunity, I always expected it would taste similar to lamb, venison, goat, etc. Am I thinking correctly, or way off?
Nope, it's much closer to beef than game or sheep, it's rich in iron and has a somewhat sweet flavour, more delicate than beef while actually being more tasty, if that makes any sense.
By how gamey it tastes?
I was just saying this to my wife yesterday!
Peak capitalism. Billions of exploited, unidentified animals suffering for profit. Corpse flesh of an unknown species.
How we treat other creatures seems to be a reflection of how we treat one another as a species.
You should start writing lyrics for death metal bands.
I definitely don’t want Lars Ulrich for my drummer.
Nah, Lars sucks. Get a real drummer, like Tomas Haake or Dave Astor or something. (Warning: flashing lights)
once you realize that we're an evolutionary dead end, you can be happy and get on with life.
Wild horses slaughtered = mystery beef.
If it wasn't contaminated horse assholes they would have said it wasn't contaminated horse assholes.
They have been selling captured wild horses. I just hadn't realised they captured quite that many.
Maybe skip beef for a while unless you know the origin.
If you can get as much meat as you're able to from a local butcher.
Befriend the people at that butcher shop. Have actual conversations with them, ask their advice on things, even if you don't think you need it.
The guy that likes you isn't going to sell you questionable meat. If he's any good he's not even buying questionable meat. You might even get discount locally sourced eggs there too.
It occurs to me that some venture capital firms have tried to corporatize and boutiquify butcher shops with expensive, "artisanal" offerings.
Your local butcher probably isn't wasting money on billboard and TV spots. Parking lot will be full every Friday afternoon and Saturday morning. Case will be full and somebody will be actively cutting something up in the back, which will almost certainly be mostly visible.
We've got a butcher's shop in my country that doubles as a restaurant and all the meat comes from their own farm not too far from the city. Best meat I've had.
The US has like 300x more population and a huge thing for beef in particular. Bound to have tons of places like that if you know where to look, or so I'd hope.
I also have a quality butcher in ly neighborhood. He wins awards with his sausages, and has his own animals in fields with various farmers he knows.
Most people just get the cheapest meat at the supermarket, though.
Very much depends on where you live. There's my favorite one, the one I go to for a specific sausage, and two corporate nonsense ones within about 10 minutes of my house.
Where my in-laws live, a city comparable in size to where I live, there are none.
WILD HORSES, WILD HORSES COULDNT TAKE ME AWAY...
From the conservative dinner table.
Horse sashimi is some good eating tho
I cannot say I've ever had it.
Wild, wild horses, shouldn't be take away.
China wouldn't take this tainted beef so ofc the shithead does. Probably pat himself on the back for thinking about the little guy...
Fucking moron. What's going to be next that we can't eat? Fruit? Potatoes? Bread???
@switcheroo @inclementimmigrant
'Illegal Aliens'
@switcheroo @inclementimmigrant Wait mixed up, but 'Mystery Meat'?
China wouldn't take it so trump bought it up and will sell diseased beef to Americans because he doesn't give a shit if we die as long as he makes money off it.
It just had a banned antibiotic didn't it? Not trying to defend anybody but quite different than having a disease.
A neurotoxic to humans antibiotic.
Americans after a steak.
Can't be worse than not eating meat apparently
I'm gonna be real, the majority of the US will never give up eating meat. It's engrained in the culture and the way people live every day. It would be like asking people to give up couches and only ever use chairs.
Red meat industry is several times worse for the environment, it's the most pollution. But really you have the food waste as the lowest hanging branch, and newer techniques like cold pasteurization with radiation can be done on raw meat and produce without heating it. Reducing food waste by 10 to 20 percent is entirely doable.
You know, the last couple of years has had me setting up solar power, buying an EV, and eating almost no animal products except for eggs from my spoiled chickens.
I think trimp is a leftist plant being used to trick everyone into being more environmentally friendly. At least thats what I like to point out to conservatives.
Some people would apparently be dragged in front of a firing squad than learn to like tofu, seitan, beans and other nutritious sources of plant-based protein.
As a vegan, I’m finding I enjoy food way more than I did as a carnist. It’s an adventure.
Why not cheese?
Cows are forcibly brought into this world to suffer as much for dairy farming as they are for meat production.
https://www.earthsave.ca/blog/dairy-or-beef/
https://www.dominionmovement.com/watch
And like beef production, the environmental impacts of the dairy industry are significant, although not quite as bad as beef. But totally unnecessary for human beings to consume.
I make my own cheese, using my own milk. Where is your vegan God now?
How much milk do your tits produce that you can regularly make cheese from it?
Tits?
Just what organ do you produce milk with exactly?
How much milk do your tits produce that you can regularly make cheese from it?
What animals are you talking about? I consent to using my own milk to produce cheese.
You know what? I missed that you’re making cheese from your own breast milk.
I read that as, “I make my own cheese (from cows milk).”
Whether you were trolling or not carry on! My brain didn’t register it because it’s not a sentence I often see.
Mystery beef.
Wild horses rounded up and disappeared.
He's just running the old TESCO special, ain't he?
People coming up with all those crazy theories while the most likely explanation is that that there is no beef. It's not the first time Trump promised something without ever planning on delivering it.
I don't know about that. Last time he imported beef from Argentina and it pissed off a bunch of beef ranchers. Maybe he thought he could avoid that by just not saying where he got it from this time.
grade F general purpose meat
now with more horse parts
(only used non diseased parts of diseased animals)
Just read "Tender is the Flesh" . If they start advertising it as special meat, know its people
Mad cow disease incoming!
"I'm so mad I'm putting on my fancy cowboy hat for this interview!" - Screwed over American ranchers
He never said it was beef. Just "product for.ground beef" whatever that is... I say neigh, I will pass on Burgers for a bit.
Earthworm protein?
Brainworms, courtesy of RFK Jr's head. They need a home with actual substance.
Its coming from the US where they store huge amounts of frozen beef to keep the price high. I know they did that with pork a few years back.
Yeah, if I still lived in the US, I think I'd be ordering the chicken for the time being. Just say "Neigh" to Trump's mystery meat.
And get salmonella? I think I'd go veggie, better for .e and the planet too.
If you're looking to avoid salmonella, I have bad news about the veggies in the US.
But I take your point about a vegetarian diet being more sustainable. I'm slowly moving in that direction.
Goodbye horses, I'm flying over you
he doesnt care if we all sicken and die from it.
Vegans were right.
Did you miss the explosive diarrhea epidemic from lettuce?
Soylent Green is PEOPLE!!
Yummy screw worms!!
It’s just the best Ukrainian beef, brought here by Russian train.
Because it's really Soylent Green.
I've never understood the "it's not actually beef" conspiracies.
In what world is it cheaper to farm and other animal in large enough amounts to supply that much ground meat? There is an entire, large scale economy of animal industry dedicated to beef supply that wildly drops the cost per pound of beef, but suddenly someone just found another, cheaper animal to mass farm that beats it?
Doubtful.
Just as the MAGA administration decides to start harvesting wild horses...
Not saying that there is correlation, but this is the same administration that illegally detained and then "deported" thousands of people to other countries.
People would be cheaper, they raise themselves
Avoid beef. Eat vegetarian meals more often.