If he dies without seeing any consequences for his actions, I'll be a little disappointed (and not even slightly surprised). I'd rather see him live a long and miserable rest of his life behind bars.
But I guess sometimes we have to take what we get...
I thought like this when Biden was elected. I thought it was only a matter of time before Fatboy McKiddieFiddler was behind bars...now I just want him gone. And for just one person in america to have enough spine to go after the rest of that crime family and enablers.
He ensured that with this last election. I said it after his first election. No consequences will happen to him. We may know he did wrong. But all he will do is point out the weak points in our system. It's on us to fix them.
At this point he just needs to be gone as soon as possible. Preferably in a very public and humiliating way, related to his age and health, so he can't be turned into a martyr for maga.
As satisfying as it would be, I don't want this over just being done with him. Seeing how shitty things are, there's a chance he doesn't stay behind bars. It also doesn't actually do any good, besides people just getting off on revenge.
I'm pretty done with revenge fetish shit. It's a large part of why our prison system is so fucked up. If you're trying to reform someone then fine, lock them up. If you're just doing something for revenge then I'm not really for it, especially if it comes with a large risk in the unknown future.
(This isn't to say I agree with the death penalty. The justice system fucks up far too frequently to allow it to have that power.)
I just want to be able to hang out with my neighbors in the middle of the street while burning a Trump effigy and getting shitface wasted. We've earned it.
Nah, he's a coward who will be too scared of the ruling class for bold action. Trump gets away with bullshit because he has an unbeatable cult of personality, but the oligarchs have never liked him and have always wanted to replace him with someone weaker. Unfortunately for them, he's intentionally set up all his underlings to fail, with charisma blackhole nobodies all throughout the entire line of succession.
Their movement is designed to die with Trump; it's the will of the rich and of the man himself. Why do you think they're so intent on keeping the Democratic party out of the left's control?
I don't buy that. The oligarchs have benefitted plenty from Trump being in charge. They have made boatloads of money and they've got us worrying about everything but the root cause of our problems. Project 2025 is a their plan. JD Vance is in support of Project 2025. JD probably can't win an election, but he can definitely execute the plan with whatever time he's got.
“I think it’s worth it. It’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God given rights. That’s a prudent deal. It is rational,”
Luke warm take: celebrating suffering of others is non-political. When you dislike someone strong enough (and you're not, like, a committed buddhist or smth) you're gonna, its only human.
Personally someone gleefully gloating is kind of a turn off though. I prefer my gloats with a touch of shame and self-consciousness 🤷♀️
I don't know about y'all, but I'm still very much celebrating Charlie Kirk's death. My friend and I send each other the video on a regular basis. We like it when awful people die.
On principle, I don't celebrate anyone's death. I mourn the loss of potential to do good, however unlikely it might be to ever be realised. Imagine what his influence and charisma might have achieved, if he'd turned his bullshit around.
I do celebrate the end of people doing evil, however. I am glad he stopped being a lying, manipulative piece of shit. I hope more of his ilk will follow his example.
I think it's safe to say a college dropout who chooses to spread hate and misinformation to make a quick buck is probably not redeemable in any way, shape, or form.
Yeah, hence my "however unlikely it might be to ever be realised".
Anyone can have some significant personal event that fundamentally alters their outlook and worldview, sort of like a " coming to Jesus" moment (though it would have to be the "help the poor, treat the sick, love your neighbour, fuck the rich" version of Jesus and also more of a metaphorical personification of decency than the altruistic bait of a toxic cult).
But if we can't have that, then anything stopping him from (personally) doing more harm is the next best option.
Well, I would not say celebrate, but it did make me quite happy for a little while once I've seen the video which made it clear there was no way he would survive that. That was of course before they had officially announced his death.
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You wait until trump dies. The whole world will be having a week long street party.
If he dies without seeing any consequences for his actions, I'll be a little disappointed (and not even slightly surprised). I'd rather see him live a long and miserable rest of his life behind bars.
But I guess sometimes we have to take what we get...
I thought like this when Biden was elected. I thought it was only a matter of time before Fatboy McKiddieFiddler was behind bars...now I just want him gone. And for just one person in america to have enough spine to go after the rest of that crime family and enablers.
This is how I've been. As much as I'd love to see them suffer for their crimes I just want them gone from this planet as quickly as possible.
The suffering of hanging at the end of a rope or the fear of knowing the bullet's coming is enough for me
He ensured that with this last election. I said it after his first election. No consequences will happen to him. We may know he did wrong. But all he will do is point out the weak points in our system. It's on us to fix them.
At this point he just needs to be gone as soon as possible. Preferably in a very public and humiliating way, related to his age and health, so he can't be turned into a martyr for maga.
Leaving him only behind bars is something too soft, kind and indulgent. He has to suffer something equivalent to what he's caused.
As satisfying as it would be, I don't want this over just being done with him. Seeing how shitty things are, there's a chance he doesn't stay behind bars. It also doesn't actually do any good, besides people just getting off on revenge.
I'm pretty done with revenge fetish shit. It's a large part of why our prison system is so fucked up. If you're trying to reform someone then fine, lock them up. If you're just doing something for revenge then I'm not really for it, especially if it comes with a large risk in the unknown future.
(This isn't to say I agree with the death penalty. The justice system fucks up far too frequently to allow it to have that power.)
For like a day, assuming his handlers didn't already have a worse replacement at the ready, which is likely.
Vance is already the VP.
I just want to be able to hang out with my neighbors in the middle of the street while burning a Trump effigy and getting shitface wasted. We've earned it.
Let's be real once JD becomes president whatever brakes were in place are off. It'll get way worse before we can vote him out.
Nah, he's a coward who will be too scared of the ruling class for bold action. Trump gets away with bullshit because he has an unbeatable cult of personality, but the oligarchs have never liked him and have always wanted to replace him with someone weaker. Unfortunately for them, he's intentionally set up all his underlings to fail, with charisma blackhole nobodies all throughout the entire line of succession.
Their movement is designed to die with Trump; it's the will of the rich and of the man himself. Why do you think they're so intent on keeping the Democratic party out of the left's control?
I don't buy that. The oligarchs have benefitted plenty from Trump being in charge. They have made boatloads of money and they've got us worrying about everything but the root cause of our problems. Project 2025 is a their plan. JD Vance is in support of Project 2025. JD probably can't win an election, but he can definitely execute the plan with whatever time he's got.
The right celebrates every leftists' death. The right especially likes to celebrate trans suicides. The right has no right to complain about fairness.
The right does nothing but complain about "fairness".
Hypocrisy and projection are firmly built into the right-wing mindset.
They're permanent victims cuz they're permanent pussies.
Maybe we should start giving them a reason to feel victimized.
Sartre's quote about antisemites
Yeah, and the right celebrated RBG's death. And Robert Mueller's. So what?
"But it makes you a HYPOCRITE! We're better because we're HONEST about wanting people dead!"
Left has always been honest about wanting to kill fash
And then put on some leather couch cushions to try and cuck Mrs Vance
Whoever did JDs hair and makeup is killing it. True visionary.
Every time I do it makes me laugh
We also celebrated Hitler's death, what's your point?
The day he was killed someone posted the uncensored video somewhere on the Fediverse.
I downloaded it.
Send it to friends and family.
I send it to coworkers.
I joked.
I laughed at other people’s jokes.
It was beautiful.
If you’re a fascist pigsau and don’t know how to have a good time, it’s your own fault.
My friend and I still send each other the video from time to time. Warms the cockles of my heart.
To be fair, his death was fucking fantastic.
I agree lol
Luke warm take: celebrating suffering of others is non-political. When you dislike someone strong enough (and you're not, like, a committed buddhist or smth) you're gonna, its only human.
Personally someone gleefully gloating is kind of a turn off though. I prefer my gloats with a touch of shame and self-consciousness 🤷♀️
I agree with you in most situations, but there are exceptions.
I value this take.
If you want to celebrate that Obama, the Hamburgler, or some random celebrity died... You should.
People were mourning Matthew Perry and yet a few weeks before his death, his tell all book was full of red flag material.
I don't know about y'all, but I'm still very much celebrating Charlie Kirk's death. My friend and I send each other the video on a regular basis. We like it when awful people die.
Never gets old
The people who have spent the last few decades spewing bile nonstop are upset when they get the mildest bit of pushback. How very predictable.
On principle, I don't celebrate anyone's death. I mourn the loss of potential to do good, however unlikely it might be to ever be realised. Imagine what his influence and charisma might have achieved, if he'd turned his bullshit around.
I do celebrate the end of people doing evil, however. I am glad he stopped being a lying, manipulative piece of shit. I hope more of his ilk will follow his example.
I think it's safe to say a college dropout who chooses to spread hate and misinformation to make a quick buck is probably not redeemable in any way, shape, or form.
Yeah, hence my "however unlikely it might be to ever be realised".
Anyone can have some significant personal event that fundamentally alters their outlook and worldview, sort of like a " coming to Jesus" moment (though it would have to be the "help the poor, treat the sick, love your neighbour, fuck the rich" version of Jesus and also more of a metaphorical personification of decency than the altruistic bait of a toxic cult).
But if we can't have that, then anything stopping him from (personally) doing more harm is the next best option.
The right doesn't celebrate death? Did I fall into an alternate dimension or something
Excuse me but celebrating and rolling on the floor laughing my ass off are two distinct things
Also notable, celebrating, and "not being (performatively) upset by, are also two distinct things.
Because it feels like the fake 2nd coming mourners were more upset a lot of people were loke, "oh well, he was a garbage person."
Well, I would not say celebrate, but it did make me quite happy for a little while once I've seen the video which made it clear there was no way he would survive that. That was of course before they had officially announced his death.
I absolutely will say celebrate. Said cheers and everything.
No one cared about this guy, only the right wing filter bubble did.
The algorithm shows them what pisses them off. All it needs is one person making fun of their Horst Wessel and it's all over their feed.
I still enjoy the video. Pop pop.
I didn't even knew he existed before the assassination
I'm glad to know he isn't as popular in real life as Internet made him out to be before he died.
Who would have thought that the neo-fascist pushing for the reintroduction of public executions would be publicly executed?
Fuck Charlie Kirk.
https://youtu.be/JbZIlQdjzu0
rip c..k
Taken from one of the comments:
"The first stage of grief is pyrotechnics"
And I'd do it again!
i believe the apt quote is
but nuance isn’t the rights greatest quality
… or maybe it is… i’m struggling to think of a better quality that apples to them