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Senator Calls for Mamdani to Be Arrested and Sent to Guantanamo

Alabama Sen. Tommy Tuberville called for New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani to be arrested and sent to the infamous American torture prison at Guantanamo Bay. Mamdani’s crime? Calling indicted alleged war criminal Benjamin Netanyahu an “architect of genocide,” responsible for a series of atrocities in the ongoing war on Gaza.

“Sooner or later,” Mamdani will “do something more stupid than what he’s done, where we will finally say enough is enough, go put the handcuffs on him … and send him to Gitmo,” Tuberville, a Republican, said, calling Mamdani a “thug.”

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Ha ha go fuck yourself MAGAt moron.

Also pretty sure the entirety of NY would put up a fight over that if they tried.

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I feel like we should have a list of all these unhinged politicians top donors and their addresses for situations like this.

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lemmy.world

Stripping an American of rights and locking him up in a gulag?

Tuberville is un-American and I wish his voters knew or cared.

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Sounds like his gay fantasy. "Tell me what would happen to me locked up with men"

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Clusterfckreply
lemmy.sdf.org

If I spent my career pretending to be indignant at the inefficiency and ineffectiveness of the government while cosplaying as someone trying to fix the problem, I’d also be scared of the guy who showed it’s not only possible to bring about positive change, but possible to do in less than one term.

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They really will do or say anything but their job, huh?

If we're being real, Mamdami hasn't even gotten his big plans rolling yet. He passed an easy tax (for people owning houses that don't even live in NYC) and fixed some potholes. His biggest win was bartering with the state government to get more support (instead of the dreaded "tax the rich"). The rest was normal stuff with good PR aimed at the 21st century. That's it.

But these relics spent decades minmaxing for cable news and can't look human on social media at all. They are used to saying words then doing nothing. The bar is that low and they are scared at a dude bending his knees (he hasn't even jumped yet).

At least they are finally breaking their fake decorum and sayong the quiet parts out loud. Makes it so much easier to tear down in the long term.

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Conservatives have to demonize socialism because they know it's the only possible thing that could pose a realistic threat to their greedy, cruel and self-serving lifestyles.

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This fucktwat will do anything to distract from the fact that he's a moron and a person who committed election fraud.

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Tommy Tuberville's smell test on who should be sent to gitmo:

  • Trying to help the taxpayers
  • Trying to suffer less in life
  • Anyone who has ever looked at a rainbow flag
  • Anyone committing crimes so heinous that Tuberville becomes scared that you'll uncover his fetishes

Getting threatened with gitmo by Tuberville means there's a 75% chance that you're pretty cool.

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lemmy.world

Fascism

Core Features

One Ruler: Power belongs to a single leader or a small group with no free elections.

Extreme Pride: People are taught to love their country above all else, often looking down on other groups.

No Freedom: The government uses police and military force to silence anyone who disagrees.

Strict Control: Businesses and daily life are heavily watched and run to match the goals of the state.

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Eh-Ireply
lemmy.world

What does history teach us about stopping fascism?

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sh.itjust.works

Historical anachronism it would've been a 1911, Webley revolver, Soviet Nagant, or whatever the fuck the French had look I don't know French guns.

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lemmy.world

Ironically I passed over an image of a 1911 because I figured the glock would be more recognized in this day and age

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lavanderreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

I would take the last one… but it seems more the contrary these days

Edit: probably it wasn’t clear: I meant the business part. People are not influencing the state evidently

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lemmy.world

I would take the nationalization of vital industries, like space travel, air travel, trains, education, and healthcare... but

daily life are heavily watched

yeah, not that.

Automatic license plate reader (ALPR) companies like Flock Safety are quietly trying to build a nationwide mass surveillance system. If there are Flock cameras in your city, they are tracking, logging, and sharing your movements without a warrant.

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raze2012reply
lemmy.world

Fascism is heavily contradictory. Maybe Joe' shop is watched carefully for making gay cakes, but WalMart will do whatever they want as long as they donate a ballroom every few years

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lavanderreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Historical fascism wasn’t like that: big companies were watched more closely. Each director board of a large company needed to have at least one representative of the fascist party.

Of course, the question is what you do with that power. And there probably fascism fails the “evil test”

But in principle I think that business (especially big business) should serve the common interest (represented by the state) and not the other way around

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Yeah, I know what you mean. Sadly, our fascism is a really, really stupid form based around a teenager's fantasy of a dictatorship. Trump doesn't care about the potential of large private corporations usurping the throne so he let's then run free as long as they kiss the ring.

If this managed to extend to decades instead of years (and somehow Trump lived that long), it'd be such a predictable ending for him.

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It's also kinda wrong for fascism, in that in a lot of ways, fascism in practice is a sort of merger of the state and big business.

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I'm really curious if he/they recognized the meme potential of this when they made it. They both seem pretty smart, so I think it has to be a consideration at least. Maybe it was the entire goal? Regardless, it's perfect and I love seeing it every time.

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Wait this was the guy who halted the promotion of a whole bunch of Pentagon personnel because he was mad that the military was covering abortions, right?

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lemmy.world

A senator openly calls for arresting a mayor, without naming any crimes, since none were committed, and sending him to the illegal prison where only innocent people are sent and tortured for no reason other than guards' enjoyment.

People like him belong in high security prisons, ideally far away from society. Assuming they won't receive capital punishment.

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You don't need crimes or due process if you send them to an illegal prison. That's the whole point of an illegal prison.

With shit like this "protecting democracy" or "preserve our institutions" sounds so fucking hollow. "Protect our way of life" becomes a fascist dog whistle than just an actual desire for security.

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A cage in the desert is fine. Pay minimun wage for an intern to feed him.

The high security prison will likely end up being a five star hotel where he gets full access to the outside anyhow.

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lemmus.org

Sadly, this trend of someone saying an incredibly reasonable thing that is in line with modern civilization and a MAGAt dropping the amazing reply of calling them stupid without providing any evidence, counterargument, or any effort at all seems to be resonating with low information voters. Things are not looking good, gang.

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The issue is the low information voter isn't hearing the reasonable thing at all. The media will spin Mamdami's point ("mamdami hates jews!"), then top it off with this quote. So Tubeville sounds "strong" and "defending America". They won't ever mention Netanyahu at all, nor the genocide.

Low information voters won't ever look farther than the spin anyway.

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I think he is afraid. He's affraid that the rise of the DSA will let Americans see a better option, that the fearmongering is on its last leg before dying out, and the poor will realize who the true targets for their resentment. Whether its true or not is purely speculative. I mean the good liars do a great job of showing how stupid MAGAts are. But, the possibility is now more apparent than ever.

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Another American Politician showing more care for Israel and Bibi than for his own constituents or country.

God we really, desperately need to root these people out of seats of power.

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lemmy.world

When politicians say things like that with no repercussions, that's when you should know you are no longer in a respectable democracy

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MBechreply
feddit.dk

Yea, any respectable democracy would have shut the city down with protests until this fuckwit steps down.

For the fuckests of sakes, you had a president who had to step down because he got a blowjob. Granted, that wasn't okay, but calling for imprisonment and possible torture of your political opponents because they give half a shit about international law is fucking insane.

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It stopped being a respectable democracy when Trump mocked a disabled reporter and was still able to continue his campaign with no consequences

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It's not just socialism, it's kindness and the exemplification of a civil servant actually seeking to serve the will of the people.

In many ways, we're simply talking about the concept of a true republic here.

This is a rare vision of the America the founding fathers envisioned.

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What kind of socialism are you referring to? That’s a pretty wide net you’re casting.

Social democracy (which is technically still capitalism)? Democratic socialism with decentralized authority? Anarchism? Union socialism?

Or are you just looking at examples of Stalinism, Maoism and Marxist-Leninist socialism? Libertarian socialism?

Do you realize the price of change is human life with any society? Capitalism has cost countless lives and the death toll is increasing.

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Good luck on seeing more republicans elected. Lol. Americans are savvy enough to know the difference between "good" socialism and "bad" socialism.

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And comparatively basically every "developed' nation is doing better than the USA.

Sure they have their problems but at least they get affordable health care and time off work

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Not socialist but social democracies.

Socialism is when WORKERS OWN THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION.

These two countries are both free market privately owned economies. They both have extream(for the USA) regulations when it comes to how private enterprise can operate but at the end of the day they are both 100% capitalists.

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NaibofTabrreply
infosec.pub

Hmm...

Sweden is a highly developed country ranked fifth in the Human Development Index. It is a constitutional monarchy and a parliamentary democracy,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden

Sweden has achieved a high standard of living under a mixed system of high-tech capitalism and extensive welfare benefits.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Sweden

As a unitary state with a constitutional monarchy, Norway divides state power between the parliament, the cabinet, and the judiciary, as determined by the 1814 constitution.

The Norwegian economy is an example of a mixed economy; a prosperous capitalist welfare state, it features a combination of free market activity and large state ownership in certain key sectors, influenced by both liberal governments from the late 19th century and later by social democratic governments in the postwar era.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway

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stretch2mreply
infosec.pub

I agree! And since we're dreaming, we need a way for the People to directly impeach federal employees elected or appointed officials (edited). I'm so sick of witnessing impeachable offenses on a daily basis while our "representatives" sit on their thumbs, counting their bribes.

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arrow74reply
lemmy.zip

Absolutely not federal employees, federally elected officials yes.

You don't want to empower random people with the ability to fire Dan at the CDC for working on the covid vaccine. Dan is a federal employee

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Ironically, this rhetoric from a politician should be an arrestable offense.

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lemmy.ca

Someone should throw old Tommy in the klink as well. That dude is dumber then a sack of nails.

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lemmy.world

Alabama guy here. So disappointed in my state. I’ve been pushing for Doug Jones, but I keep getting, “I don’t like Doug Jones!” He’s better than an ignorant washed up Florida man half ass football coach. I’ve not heard the sack of nails before. I’ve heard box of rocks bag of hammers. Gonna keep it and add it to my repertoire.

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I know you mean your politician, but I want you all to elect Doug Jones the actor in full Abe Sapien cosmetics.

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Isn't "thug" one of those far-right dogwhistles? Calling him "towelhead" would have been too on the nose

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slrpnk.net

Nick Saban if you can hear me right now I have a favor to ask, I know YOU know Tommy Tuberville is dumber than a sackful of hammers, so please use the absurd level of influence you have over the state of Alabama to call for someone in Alabama to take care of him if you know what I’m saying.

Someone murdered a bunch of sentimentally valuable trees for you without your asking, they would jump at this opportunity

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Don't insult a sackful of hammers. At least those can be useful...

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This is a nice case study about why democracies should never ever ever tolerate the existence of zones outside the rule of regular law. Guantanamo in this idiot's brain is a stand-in for an oubliette.

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lemmy.world

Sure. If he actually has an arrest warrant out for him. WHICH HE DOESN'T. Do you know who does? BIBI!

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8oow3291dreply
feddit.dk

Even if there was an arrest warrant, Guantanamo is still a concentration camp and not a rule of law prison. So sending an American citizen there would still be fascism.

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arrow74reply
lemmy.zip

I wouldn't call it a concentration camp. That refers more to things targeting mass groups of people.

This is a selective prison camp for political enemies and anyone deemed "useful" to torture for information

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Tiger666reply
lemmy.ca

Its a fucking concentration camp. It holds political prisoners, WHO COME FROM ONE SPECIFIC PLACE ON THIS PLANET, who have never had a day in court for their accused crimes. ITS A CONCENTRATION CAMP.

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I never said it's a good place if you can calm the fuck down.

To me a concentration camp is for larger scale imprisonment.

It does do all the things you list though

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lemmy.world

Guess ol Tommy had to say something ridiculous to get back in the news. Probably had to go see the king and needed some recognition.

He should fall down more stairs.

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Sunflierreply
lemmy.world

He should fall down more stairs.

They're so old and staying in office so long that falling on the stairs is a real possibility.

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leminal.space

Tommy Tuberville sounds like a Stan Lee character that Spider-Man fights as a villain when he tries to go on holiday.

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To me it sounds like an angry sentient inner tube from a shitty water park. Tommy hates Thomas the tank engine, who happens to be completely oblivious to his existence.

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lemmy.ca

Arrested for what, exactly? What fucking law?

Who is going to stand up to these people?

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apftwbreply
lemmy.world

What fucking law

Prisoners at Guantanimo Bay have been asking that for decades.

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Sure, but now elected US politicians are being threatened with being thrown in there?

I feel like maybe that's not so legal, or at least deserves some attention from some kind of agency.

Obviously not going to happen, but let's try not to forget what the world was like before fascism destroyed the United States.

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The law that lil' ol' Tommy Tuberville came up with in his silly lil' brain.

God, he's such a fucking cretin. I absolutely loathe him.

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Sunflierreply
lemmy.world

Not to be a nitpicker, but its "hanged" not "hung". Hung is the past tense of hanging something up (Jimmy went and hung up his coat). The past tense of the execution is hanged (Jimmy was hanged at dawn in town square).

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theherkreply
lemmy.world

How is that not being a nitpicker? From the MW usage guide.

The distinction between hanged and hung is not an especially useful one (although a few commentators claim otherwise). It is, however, a simple one and certainly easy to remember. Therein lies its popularity. If you make a point of observing the distinction in your writing, you will not thereby become a better writer, but you will spare yourself the annoyance of being corrected for having done something that is not wrong.

They were used completely interchangeably for centuries and still are to some extent. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

e: shrugger lost his arm

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Sunflierreply
lemmy.world

Hey now! There could be young children reading this! Keep it PG-13.

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Eh-Ireply
lemmy.world

"We went to the Olive Garden and I ordered spaghetti. Hung had the fettuccine."

PG-13

"We went to the Carrabba's and I ordered spaghetti. Hung had the fettuccine."

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Uhm, yeah, Olive Garden. Totally wasn't thinking of a guy's bits (as in, he's hung).

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sh.itjust.works

Yeah I messed it up, I’m watching that Backrooms movie right now and it’s not helping my thinking.

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Poor Jimmy though. Must have been one hell of a thing to hang up that coat. xD

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Funny coming from a guy who should have already be hunged.

FIFY

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lemmy.world

Checks out, since Guantanamo Bay is for people who can't be charged with anything.

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This is the same cumstain who blocked military promotions to stick to the leftist. Go get Graham'ed

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lemmy.world

he couldnt find a good enough crime (a low bar) so he just said "you just wait for it! he will be an horrid criminal soon enough!!! we need to throw him in before that happens!!"

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Tuberville is speaking about what he knows best, for he is the very definition of "thug." Must be feeling very threatened by Mamdani to be going this far overboard in his projection.

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Headline Alabama politician doesn't like brown skin color in any position of power or authority

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