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Should have fought harder for them then when you invaded. Sucks to suck

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lemmy.world

Argentina played some of the dirtiest WC soccer I've ever seen. Grabbing the English goalie's arms during a corner kick, regularly shoving opposing players in the back and grabbing their jerseys when they got the ball during a fast break. The referee only handed out a single yellow card, and let everything else pass.

Messi wasn't doing it so overtly, but everyone else especially Simeone, were just blatant. Have no dog in this race, but that was just gross.

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They've always been like that. They poisoned a player once. FIFA did nothing.

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lemmy.today

These types of displays were banned by FIFA, no? If so , shouldn't there be some kind of disciplinary action?

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They were, but IMO there shouldn't.

The "no politics" rule strips people of a big platform to protest against injustice and further other righteous causes, and that's the INTENTION the corrupt leaders of FIFA had.

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They have to double check with FIFA Peace Prize recipient Donald J. Trump before they make any calls, they don't want to accidentally discipline the wrong team

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Red card everyone in that pic. Then the next day say you had a chat with Milei and now the coach is red carded too.

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Noel_Skumreply
sh.itjust.works

Yeah - Argentina was never colonised. They just natively look (mostly) quite European and speak Spanish.

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They natively look and speak Spanish lmaoooo.

When they celebrate their independence day I guess they really mean independant of will and strength of character not independence from Spanish crown.

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Sort of the thing with war. If you're on the losing side, it can get a little awkward when you try to stick around.

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Wait, who colonized Argentina? And wait who was first to the Falkland Islands? I genuinely don't understand why you think Argentina wanting the Falkland Islands has anything to do with opposition to colonialism.

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lemmy.world

Argentina supports Israel and has an ancap president. They aren't anti colonial.

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Skullgridreply
lemmy.world

Opposing colonialism is being a sore loser now?

Please recount to me the tales of how the Falklands war ended up going in the 1980s. I'm fascinated by your take.

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Jumireply
lemmy.world

You are aware that the first inhabitants of the Falklands were French? There was nobody to be colonised.

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lemmy.world

the first inhabitants of the Falklands were French?

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That's certainly a theory.

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sh.itjust.works

Please explain to me how this is opposing colonialism? They want to colonise the Falklands themselves.

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spockreply
lemmy.world

Does Argentina belong to the Spanish? Why do you think Argentina should take them? Who lived in Argentina before the Spanish came? Who lived in the Falkland islands, nobody.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

It doesn't matter who lived there first, because I'll swear on the King's life that the Brits weren't first

Also, "who lived in Argentina before the Spanish came?" Maybe the people living there tens of thousands of years before European colonialism hit their shores?

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Are you saying there were no indigenous people in what is now Argentina when the colonists came? Just a simple search for "indigenous people of Argentina" delivers ample evidence that there were.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

Thatcher's dead and buried, defending British imperialism isn't going to get her to sleep with you

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Starya67reply
lemmy.world

You've still not explained why Argentina should be allowed to colonise it and Britain shouldnt.

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No one should colonise anything. But the difference between Argentina and The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (God save the King) is as vast as, well, the distance between London and any point in South America

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lemmy.world

Because "sail around the world and claim what you want" is fucking great if you're playing Monopoly. Less great to sort out world affairs in a modern world.

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Natanaelreply
slrpnk.net

But if the islands were empty before? Like there's islands who have thousands of years of history of people living there. But then there's also those who just doesn't. Are they supposed to stay empty? All humans always bad, or something?

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stolyreply
lemmy.world

The islands are on the continental shelf.

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lemmy.world

Ah, yes, the fact that prehistoric Fuegians may have visited the Falklands surely means they're the birthright of Argentina. Airtight anti-colonialist explanation.

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lemmy.world

Literally no one was there when France landed there, so you can either a) ask France and Spain for their thoughts, b) resurrect the Fuegians who visited and let them have it, forcibly deporting the people who've lived there for centuries, or c) disregard pragmatism and say they aren't part of any country – either way, you can stop obnoxiously trying to defend Argentina's baseless colonialist claim under the guise of "anticolonialism".

To the extent it belongs to anyone, it obviously belongs to the UK far more than it does to the asshurt losers who flaccidly tried and utterly failed to assert sovereignty over it.

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it obviously belongs to the UK far more

No land "belongs" to anyone, least of all to the asshurt losers who flaccidly tried and utterly failed to keep their empire alive

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Isn't that promoting colonialism?

Opposing would be free Malvinas or something like that.

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sh.itjust.works

What regime did the English change when they showed up to an uninhabited island a few hundred years ago?

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lemmy.world

I can't think of a nation with a bigger chip on their shoulder than Argentine. It's kind of weird.

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sh.itjust.works

It's absolutely bizarre, they have no legitimate claim to the islands. It's like someone moving into your house when you are on holiday, and saying it's theirs.

Plenty of countries have uninhabited islands as part of their territory, it doesn't mean they're up for grabs.

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lemmy.world

Had they not invaded there's a good chance they would be Argentinian by now, which is the funniest part of the whole fiasco.

Gave Thatcher an easy election win, which is genuinely unforgivable.

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That's the fucking part that blows my mind. They were about to get it back for fucking free. But the Military Dictatorship had to Military it up and then not only got their asses handed to them, but also gave Thatcher and Reaganomics the boost of a lifetime.

Every single time I see anything argentinian named "LAS MALVINAS ARGENTINAS XYZ" it feels so fucking pathetic. They put it on a (now worthless) 50 peso banknote.

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ani.social

It would be interesting to see them actually succeeding with conquering those islands just to see them do this:

Now they actually had to deal with their ruined socioeconomic problems instead of political rallying around a made up issue.

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they'll sink their economy just like the rest of Argentina

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aussie.zone

i just realised lemmy.zip is converting all images to avif

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Skullgridreply
lemmy.world

it's really fucking annoying because it won't do "click thumbnail to expand" and always puts them in a new tab.

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i'll do a test later tonight and see if it's same thing here, i guess if someone who has the energy and sees this can lookup whether lemmy has a bug/feature request somewhere in their github/git/whatever to get this looked at?

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