I used to be a hunt-and-peck typist. For me, first you have to build muscle memory for key fingerings, which key is pressed by what finger. Then you can start to get faster. Building a strong foundation first.
I would have this site open on one window:
www.keybr.com
And this image on another for reference:
KeyBR has “levels” where you work on a specific set of letters first, until you’re fast enough and they give you the next set of letters, adding on to what you’ve already done.
Once you’ve completed all letters, you stop progressing and just type words with all letters.
For me, after my first completion of keyBR, I spent a day or so practicing at the “endgame.” After that, I’d restart the entire module from scratch, back to the individual letters. Rinse and repeat.
After about a month or two, I was already touch-typing.
Then I got really into monkeytype.com, and started typing faster and faster.
Print out a big image of your keyboard layout and hang it on the wall in your line of sight where you type. Never look at the keyboard, only look at the image on the wall. It won't take long to build the muscle memory this way.
Personally, I don't think its needed. You can look at the screen for immediate feedback of what you typed and there are typing practice games which certainly help with good practice.
And put stickers on your keyboard. Start with a few on the home row and gradually expand once you don't have to think about the location of the keys anymore.
They make games where you have to spell words quickly or you lose and that's how I learned as a kid.
Like one where you're in a spaceship and have to shoot lasers at asteroids that are coming at your ship. You have to spell the word that's written on the asteroid to hit it with a laser.
Idk if any of them are free but they're basically simple coded flash games so I'm sure you could find one on the internet pretty easily
https://www.keybr.com/ is a free 20 minutes a day practice tool that i tey to use daily. starts easy, then slowly ramps up to new letters for you to practice.
When I was in high school I was playing WoW when Wrath came out. I was doing a lot of PUGs so there wasn’t any coordinated voice chat so I HAD to type in order to communicate, so that’s when I really learned to touch-type.
Every time you type a wrong key, hit that finger with a hammer. You'll only need to do it once or twice before you've terrified all the fingers into only ever pressing the right keys.
1 Purchase The Typing of the Dead, the House of the Dead spinoff available for PC and Sega Dreamcast.
2 While TTotD is downloading or shipping go ahead and get some blacked out keyboard keys and install them.
Here's the tricky part:
3 You have to learn to type or you will die.
In the 80's we had games to learn touch typing that were very helpful and also quite fun, compared to old school methods.
Here's a site that claims to have that sort of games: https://www.typing.com/student/games
Warning I have no idea if these are good, it's just a random site a search came up with.
Paste some long text you have written and it will show you a heat map on different layouts to see how the typing of that text on that layout would have been. I loaded a large code I was working on and Colemak was mostly home row.
Not that it matters that much for touch typing but while I can't switch around keys in my external keyboard I can't change it in my laptop. Did you simply accept it that keys don't match your layout and move on?
I don't have to look at it but sometimes I had to take my laptop to Desktop support for example and they wouldn't be able to do anything with different layout. I don't have any company laptop anymore so no longer a problem. Was just wandering.
If a support person can't switch keyboard layout, I have absolutely no confidence they can fix whatever's wrong with my machine.
Plus I use a tiling window manager with custom shortcuts, my keyboard is a split with blank keys and I use a trackball. I think it's fair to say changing the keyboard layout would be a tiny step to overcome for anyone trying to use my machine hahahshs
The way I learned to type is by dividing my laptop screen into a left side, where I read, like the news, or Kindle, or some website I like, and a smaller right side that I don't look at, where I type into Word, or simply Notepad. I went from zero to 60 words a minute fairly quickly. I'm so used to it now that I like to type the books I read. It helps me also because I'm a diagonal reader. Typing what I read forces me to slow down and assimilate more of what I'm reading.
My first recommendation is maybe consider a different layout. If you have been typing for long you will have muscle memory that will be hard to erase, I could mostly blind type (though not touch type) on qwerty, I decided to learn Colemak for touch typing and have never looked back. I still retain the muscle memory and can type somewhat fast on qwerty but after years of correct typing I notice just how bad what I was doing was.
IIRC I used https://thetypingcat.com/typing-courses/basic and trained on that and similar websites for a long time. You have to know that you will be very slow during a while and have to be prepared for that, but it does pay out in the end. While I didn't increased my typing speed significantly (70 to 85) it is a lot less strenuous on my hands.
If you're just getting started touch typing you may as well consider switching to a more comfortable layout like Dvorak for example before spending uncountable hours on learning qwerty
Nah, bring able to type on any common keyboard is more useful than a 50-100% speed increase. I can usually type faster than I can think. Typing isn't usually the bottleneck.
It's not about typing faster. Effectively the difference of speed between qwerty, dvorak, colemak, etc. Are significant but not very big.
It's about avoiding repetitive strain injuries. If you type all day long for a living, something like carpal tunnel syndrome can destroy your career. Did you know that Emacs pinky is actually a type of injury. Anyways, keyboards are the number one source of RSI in office workers. Alternative keyboard layouts reduce fatigue and strain to hand ligaments by reducing the need for repeated awkward finger motions.
If you actually wanted to type as fast as people speak, you need something like a chorded steno keyboard. If you think you can type fast on qwerty, you have never seen a stenographer doing their thing.
The keyboard itself doesn't really matter for this, you just need to set the layout in your own computer and that's it. Unless you often have to type on other people's computers?
Unless you feel like learning both.
That's a bad idea. It'll just make you slow with either layout
TypingMaster for PC was what I learned multiple keyboard formats. Now i use one on mobile and another for touch typing!
You can probably torrent it or just buy it but it has everything you'll need, you just need to do it everyday for 10-20 mins for a while. Helps to say the letters in you head maybe as you're typing. Like simultaneously mentally speak the letters as you press them
It gets easier as you move on to actual words and you learn to naturally chunk them together as you gain proficiency and fluency
Honestly, just type a lot and try to get it done quickly. I never did anything specifically to try and learn, it just happened naturally following that for me.
I've heard people have a lot of success with various typing games, there's a few on steam now if that's your jam. Glyphica and The Typing of the Dead are the ones that immediately jump to mind
I learned it by getting an a3 sized piece of light cardboard and a bit of string, hanging the cardboard around your neck so that it blocks the view of the keyboard, and then get a tool like https://klavaro.sourceforge.io/en/index.html for training (In school we used TippFix, an ancient Dos-based tool. Because this was a Computer Science School and we all were lazy fucks back then, someone in our class created a TSR Program which allowed people to simple hold Alt-Ctrl-LShift and it typed automatically and towards the end of the graded lessons we simply made 2 or 3 typos on purpose for plausible deniability, buy you also could simply edit the plain text files to contain rows consisting of a single letter. Made all lessons a lot quicker, which meant we could return to playing Command & Conquer, Nethack or MUDs sooner lol)
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I used to be a hunt-and-peck typist. For me, first you have to build muscle memory for key fingerings, which key is pressed by what finger. Then you can start to get faster. Building a strong foundation first.
I would have this site open on one window: www.keybr.com
And this image on another for reference:
KeyBR has “levels” where you work on a specific set of letters first, until you’re fast enough and they give you the next set of letters, adding on to what you’ve already done.
Once you’ve completed all letters, you stop progressing and just type words with all letters.
For me, after my first completion of keyBR, I spent a day or so practicing at the “endgame.” After that, I’d restart the entire module from scratch, back to the individual letters. Rinse and repeat.
After about a month or two, I was already touch-typing.
Then I got really into monkeytype.com, and started typing faster and faster.
Print out a big image of your keyboard layout and hang it on the wall in your line of sight where you type. Never look at the keyboard, only look at the image on the wall. It won't take long to build the muscle memory this way.
This sounds like a good idea. How about getting a cheap projector to project a keyboard visualizer for immediate feedback and practicing?
Personally, I don't think its needed. You can look at the screen for immediate feedback of what you typed and there are typing practice games which certainly help with good practice.
May i suggest : Mario teaches typing 2
...or Typing of the Dead..
edit- need to be quicker on the draw https://lemmy.world/comment/24752216
A cardboard box:
I remember my parents in the 90s using a tea-towel over their hands and keyboard
https://archive.org/details/mavis-beacon-teaches-typing-8
this is what we used in the mid 90s. weird but worked.
one of the best things my parents did for us was make us learn to type
https://monkeytype.com/
And put stickers on your keyboard. Start with a few on the home row and gradually expand once you don't have to think about the location of the keys anymore.
Mavis beacon
Playing a MMO.
You will learn where every button is. Or die trying.
Mavis Beacon motherfucker!
They make games where you have to spell words quickly or you lose and that's how I learned as a kid.
Like one where you're in a spaceship and have to shoot lasers at asteroids that are coming at your ship. You have to spell the word that's written on the asteroid to hit it with a laser.
Idk if any of them are free but they're basically simple coded flash games so I'm sure you could find one on the internet pretty easily
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing! And Reader Rabbit. And Treasure Mountain (although that's more math I think). Loved that shit as a kid.
https://www.keybr.com/ is a free 20 minutes a day practice tool that i tey to use daily. starts easy, then slowly ramps up to new letters for you to practice.
When I was in high school I was playing WoW when Wrath came out. I was doing a lot of PUGs so there wasn’t any coordinated voice chat so I HAD to type in order to communicate, so that’s when I really learned to touch-type.
Every time you type a wrong key, hit that finger with a hammer. You'll only need to do it once or twice before you've terrified all the fingers into only ever pressing the right keys.
Typing.com is how I learned and recommend people learn
Then I use typeracer to have some fun
Older but Mario Teaches Typing https://playclassic.games/games/educational-dos-games-online/play-mario-teaches-typing-online/
1 Purchase The Typing of the Dead, the House of the Dead spinoff available for PC and Sega Dreamcast.
2 While TTotD is downloading or shipping go ahead and get some blacked out keyboard keys and install them.
Here's the tricky part:
3 You have to learn to type or you will die.
In the 80's we had games to learn touch typing that were very helpful and also quite fun, compared to old school methods.
Here's a site that claims to have that sort of games:
https://www.typing.com/student/games
Warning I have no idea if these are good, it's just a random site a search came up with.
Good for you. I did not think typing was a skill that would be lost and so quickly. It boggles my mind they don't teach it in school now.
https://www.typingclub.com/
Learned Colemak there, liked it. Unfortunately, no support for more niche layouts, like regional variants of Colemak.
Shit, I've checked it and now I'm thinking about learning a new layout. Thanks. Like I didn't have enough things to do...
As a Colemak user I highly encourage people to learn a different layout. The thing that convinced me to Colemak was this: https://www.patrick-wied.at/projects/heatmap-keyboard/
Paste some long text you have written and it will show you a heat map on different layouts to see how the typing of that text on that layout would have been. I loaded a large code I was working on and Colemak was mostly home row.
Not that it matters that much for touch typing but while I can't switch around keys in my external keyboard I can't change it in my laptop. Did you simply accept it that keys don't match your layout and move on?
If you have to look at the keyboard you're doing it wrong. My main board had blank keys, my laptop has the qwerty keys, I just don't look at them
I don't have to look at it but sometimes I had to take my laptop to Desktop support for example and they wouldn't be able to do anything with different layout. I don't have any company laptop anymore so no longer a problem. Was just wandering.
If a support person can't switch keyboard layout, I have absolutely no confidence they can fix whatever's wrong with my machine.
Plus I use a tiling window manager with custom shortcuts, my keyboard is a split with blank keys and I use a trackball. I think it's fair to say changing the keyboard layout would be a tiny step to overcome for anyone trying to use my machine hahahshs
The way I learned to type is by dividing my laptop screen into a left side, where I read, like the news, or Kindle, or some website I like, and a smaller right side that I don't look at, where I type into Word, or simply Notepad. I went from zero to 60 words a minute fairly quickly. I'm so used to it now that I like to type the books I read. It helps me also because I'm a diagonal reader. Typing what I read forces me to slow down and assimilate more of what I'm reading.
My first recommendation is maybe consider a different layout. If you have been typing for long you will have muscle memory that will be hard to erase, I could mostly blind type (though not touch type) on qwerty, I decided to learn Colemak for touch typing and have never looked back. I still retain the muscle memory and can type somewhat fast on qwerty but after years of correct typing I notice just how bad what I was doing was.
IIRC I used https://thetypingcat.com/typing-courses/basic and trained on that and similar websites for a long time. You have to know that you will be very slow during a while and have to be prepared for that, but it does pay out in the end. While I didn't increased my typing speed significantly (70 to 85) it is a lot less strenuous on my hands.
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What if I don't havs them?
Wizard Pope, we all know you dont have eyelids, stop pointing it out. We're jealous enough as it is.
Typing of the Dammed?
If you're just getting started touch typing you may as well consider switching to a more comfortable layout like Dvorak for example before spending uncountable hours on learning qwerty
Nah, bring able to type on any common keyboard is more useful than a 50-100% speed increase. I can usually type faster than I can think. Typing isn't usually the bottleneck.
Unless you feel like learning both.
It's not about typing faster. Effectively the difference of speed between qwerty, dvorak, colemak, etc. Are significant but not very big.
It's about avoiding repetitive strain injuries. If you type all day long for a living, something like carpal tunnel syndrome can destroy your career. Did you know that Emacs pinky is actually a type of injury. Anyways, keyboards are the number one source of RSI in office workers. Alternative keyboard layouts reduce fatigue and strain to hand ligaments by reducing the need for repeated awkward finger motions.
If you actually wanted to type as fast as people speak, you need something like a chorded steno keyboard. If you think you can type fast on qwerty, you have never seen a stenographer doing their thing.
Yeah, stenographers are crazy fast.
I've been typing for a living for almost 20 years. No RSI yet luckily. I've tried to ensure good ergonomics elsewhere at my desk setups though.
The keyboard itself doesn't really matter for this, you just need to set the layout in your own computer and that's it. Unless you often have to type on other people's computers?
That's a bad idea. It'll just make you slow with either layout
Occasionally enough that I'd find it inconvenient to not have the option available.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/909470/Touch_Type_Tale__Strategic_Typing/
TypingMaster for PC was what I learned multiple keyboard formats. Now i use one on mobile and another for touch typing!
You can probably torrent it or just buy it but it has everything you'll need, you just need to do it everyday for 10-20 mins for a while. Helps to say the letters in you head maybe as you're typing. Like simultaneously mentally speak the letters as you press them
It gets easier as you move on to actual words and you learn to naturally chunk them together as you gain proficiency and fluency
Honestly, just type a lot and try to get it done quickly. I never did anything specifically to try and learn, it just happened naturally following that for me.
I've heard people have a lot of success with various typing games, there's a few on steam now if that's your jam. Glyphica and The Typing of the Dead are the ones that immediately jump to mind
Get a keyboard with blanked keys, this is what I used
https://www.daskeyboard.com/daskeyboard-4-ultimate
Your body learns real fast that looking down no longer helps with typing 👌
Just type stuff. Take a frequeent word you use, then repeat it until fluent.
A keyboard or a typewriter?
Typeracer
I learned it by getting an a3 sized piece of light cardboard and a bit of string, hanging the cardboard around your neck so that it blocks the view of the keyboard, and then get a tool like https://klavaro.sourceforge.io/en/index.html for training (In school we used TippFix, an ancient Dos-based tool. Because this was a Computer Science School and we all were lazy fucks back then, someone in our class created a TSR Program which allowed people to simple hold Alt-Ctrl-LShift and it typed automatically and towards the end of the graded lessons we simply made 2 or 3 typos on purpose for plausible deniability, buy you also could simply edit the plain text files to contain rows consisting of a single letter. Made all lessons a lot quicker, which meant we could return to playing Command & Conquer, Nethack or MUDs sooner lol)
I simply just painted over the keys on my keyboard so I couldn't read the letters I had to keep some of the symbols tho
Use neo-layout on normal keyboard /s