Jesus fucking Christ.
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Americans looking at the Nazis: I'll never be as good as the old masters.
Nazis looking at Americans: I'll never be as good as the old masters.
The first one doesn't make any sense.
US industrialists like Ford helped fund the Nazi and Nazism was extremely popular in the US.
Hitler himself modeled the Holocaust after how the US genocided the Native Americans.
For the first one, read the post. It's saying the Americans are emulating the Nazis.
The second one is because the Nazis were emulating the Americans (as you stated).
I get that, it is just not correct as the Nazi were emulating the US from the start.
Not only did the US provide massive support, it also did a lot of political work. You see before the final solution Hitler just wanted the Jews out.
He sent delegates to talk with other nations about taking them in. When the wealthy Nazi lovers of the US found out about this they assisted in helping revive anti-jewish sentiment around the world. They went around lobbying every nation including the US to not take the Jews in and it worked.
This is what brought about the final solution, but before that the Nazi had a problem with tracking Jews. Que IBM who used their computing power at the time to generate a census system. Those numbers tattooed on Jewish prisoners arms came from IBM.
If that was not enough the Nazi also had a problem with the logistics during the final solution. IBM once again came to the rescue figuring out how many trains of Jews could be executed without backing up their newly designed death camps.
So the US played an intricate role in making the Holocaust feasible. One of the many genocides the US has been a part of.
I'm just not very funny.
You are just fine, I just feel compelled to point this out when it is brought up. Mainly because I hate the narrative the US was the good guy during WWII.
No one thinks that in my country, I think they're the only ones that think that. But they also think they didn't lose 1812.
https://www.npr.org/2012/06/18/155308632/teaching-the-war-of-1812-different-in-u-s-canada
I find those last 2 sentences amusing and puzzling. It is like he thinks he is the decider of what society at large is going to care about at any given moment. That level of ego must hurt your neck to carry around everyday.
Called it! Stamped it! No repeats!
Upon managing to access the presidential bunker, the "march on D.C." group were unsurprised to find that the first lady and chief of war had taken their own lives, what they were surprised to discover was the commander and chief had chosen not to, but instead empty his entire clip into the already deceased secretary of war at close range.
As I read this, megadeth - blackmail the universe started playing in my head
I wish American liberals weren't such pansies. They are half the country if not more, it really wouldn't be that difficult to shut down the country in a big enough uprising.
I think people are counting on midterms going their way. If it helps the left has been more effective at violence so far when it does happen.
And me personally would end up homeless if I miss more then one paycheck.
Revolutions dont happen because people are afraid to he homeless. People should be rioting, killing their landlords, hanging politicians in the street.
I live in Alaska and we do notnevem have anywhere near enough shelters. Plus, would you be willing to kill your own cousin?
findagrave.com
Anyone have a backhoe and a trailer? Lots of Confederate trash lying around in the dirt that we could clean up too.
actual antifa propaganda:
I think that's a false equivalent. Yes, the Kaiser was authoritarian, but it was just another colonising parliamentary monarchy (like th UK). It had fewer colonies than the UK (good guys TM) and was less terrible to its own population than Russia (good guys TM).
It tries to reinvigorate that hurra war spirit, which is ok. But the poster is a bit more anti-german than it is anti-fascist.
the thing about propaganda is that it's not meant to be accurate, factual, or even logical. it's to modify people's behavior based on their emotional response. you can see the effectiveness in literally everything the GOP says, writes, publishes, etc. their base eats it up like hogs at the trough while everyone else sits around still trying to convince them that last month's lies were a "false equivalent"
or that they should care that it is
Meanwhile the portrait of U.S. military's first Black four-star general, Daniel "Chappie" James Jr., was taken down from the Air Force Art Gallery at the Pentagon. You know someone who actually deserves recognition. I guess his place in history was not settled.
Not being on show in the pentagon is the bigger honor anyway
It is in the history that matters, ours
From Wikipedia
It is very clear what message Hegsheth wants to send here, and it is not that catching a pack mule is "conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of life above and beyond the call of duty." The massacre at wounded knee is one of the darkest chapters of our history.
Hegseth isn't gonna like his place in history.
Hegseth has likely lied every single day of his adult life, plus when he was learning how to lie as a kid/ teenager.
Hegseth's only regret will be that he didn't hurt enough of the 'right' people.
He's a fucking alcoholic, and you know he lies about that to even himself, so your probably right.
To someone like Hegseth, he's not an alcoholic — that's woke liberal trashspeak and not a real condition.
Idk if that's actually what he believes, but I bet I'm not far off from his actual answer.
I want so badly to believe in religion because it would give me peace that monsters like him will get what they deserve. Stupid autistic brain won't let me without sufficient evidence.
What makes you think that a god who made Hegseth a multi-millionaire and gave him control of the most powerful military on the planet would suddenly hold him accountable when he dies?
Motherfucker would have been smote or turned into a pillar of salt by now if there was a just deity from any religion.
That's the only argument my brain will accept.
It's actually well documented that part of the appeal of religion is the psychological need for justice when it's so clearly absent in the real world. It's probably part of the reason Christianity spun off from Judaism when it became clear that the Jews weren't going to get any sort of justice or revenge for their oppression by the Roman Empire. Christianity has a greater emphasis on the afterlife and otherworldly justice than Judaism does. Prior to that, the Hebrews were doing fairly well with their own kingdoms and a focus on prosperity in life rather than waiting for the afterlife was working out pretty well.
Sorry for the tangent, I just think it's really interesting.
It is! Thank you for sharing, I didn't know.
I look forward to seeing him in it.
The downside to living in a world that can't forget anymore.
If he could physically insert himself into the anus of a fat orange shit gibbon, he'll be just fine with his bitch ass fucjnutted black heart on prominent display as a DEAD FASCIST CUNT
Came here to say this.
Secretary of War: "This decision is final (hic)"
That's not how republics work, you're not the "final decider".
Very telling that he thinks he is.
Can't revoke the medals if the body that issued them dissolves. Fuck it, I'll take it.
You are not a historian and also do not get to decide what happens in the future 💖
And he's lost every engagement he's been in, and history gets written by the victors.
Isn't opening fire on civilians like the most american thing ever? They open fire on protesting workers, on children in schools etc.
Excuse me but that seemed like a very rude way to describe my culture.
Not inaccurate, but maybe try rewriting it to sound like less of a smug asshole who thinks their culture is just essentially better?
My culture is "essentially better" though.
Oh? How often do people kill Americans there?
Americans are absolutely best at killing each other, frequently engaging in behavior almost taken out of fantasy books where strong and rich cull the week and poor, not unlike great viltrumites from show Invincible!
See! My culture has virtues!
The US has culture? What it consists of, plastic cheese, chocolate that tastes like vomit, medical bankruptcies and mass school shootings? The US desperately needs a makeover, and at least half of their citizenry needs some proper therapy. Not keeping my hopes up. Never visiting again.
Cheese and chocolate is an unfair statement when some of the best cheeses are from Monroe, Wisconsin, and if you don't like Hershey's brands (Cadburry is not the same) just find an Aldi and the good chocolate will be there.
Lol some of the best cheeses in America, maybe.
Wisconsin cheese has nothing on the French, Swiss or Greek cheeses.
Have you ever tried Monroe cheese?
Nah man, just like most of the world.
Can't blame you, fuck this place. It's easily one of the most evil places on earth. The government really really hates it citizens. They refuse to regulate corporations for even the most basic things. The amount of psychological warfare against us is off the charts, that is our history is riddled with conspiracy, malice and greed. I mean ffs they are currently prioritizing water usage for data centers for things that are not only non necessary but absolutely pointless. Burning water for the hell of it. I've always felt odd about this place since I was young, asking adults questions that they sushed quickly with a "we don't talk about that". This place is like bizzaro land, everything has to be a show.
Sorry for the soapbox.
Yeah! That's the one!
Don't forget cars.
The closest thing 'Murica (I refer to post-invasion' Murica) has to culture is what's growing between your toes
We can all agree it's immoral, but it's also just plain stupidity.
Even if you are white supremacist "kill all people of color", you still need a professional military that's not wasting time massacring civilians and creating PR disasters daily, if you hope to win any wars at all.
Also "their place in history is settled": sorry to ruin your day but that's not how collective processing of historical trauma works, nor history as a science.
I mean... Their place I history was already settled. They are war crime committing, baby killing, psychopaths who are the rare exception for "abolish the death penalty".
I can't wait for this guy to be Karma's bitch.
I wish karma was real but unfortunately we live in the world where pieces of shit just get away with everything.
Then he'll be a Luigi's bitch.
Karma is not going to take these guys down. That's the job of the American people right now.
If it was that easy for him to do this it will be just as easy for the next Secretary of Defense to reverse it, but the fact that he feels the need to say this and must recognize on some level that a vast majority of people at this point hate their guts and can't wait to undo every last thing they've done is gratifying
Well yeah, he is a Nazi so that tracks
Hegseth drinks his own piss
Well, yeah, he doesn't want any of that booze to go to waste
I've also heard this.
So the satire from BioShock: Infinite has become reality.
Man, that game started out as such a good examination and denouncing of manifest destiny white supremacist bullshit with so many good little historical details, but then 3/4 of the way through the story
::: spoiler . some idiot on the writing team was like "Ooh, the black people resisting fascist bullshit seem uncomplicatedly good, we better have their leader murder an innocent child for no reason so the white main character can wisely say there are problems on both sides" :::
which was just some real cowardly bullshit
Bioshock 1: Let's explore and denounce this bullshit set of ideas
Bioshock 2: Actually, both sides.
Bioshock Infinite: Let's explore and deno- just kidding it's both sides again
Judas, according to Ken Levine:
That's fucking bleak. What a miserable cunt.
You get what you voted for America...
Trust me, I've never gotten what I voted for once. The majority of Americans havent gotten what they voted for. Of those that voted 60% didnt vote for this. And the majority of the population continued the trend of not voting.
I dont know how to fix it. You would think in a country built on the idea of keeping your guns so you can fight the government, that we would see more physical pushback.
I just dont want to live on this planet anymore.
What a disappointment the human race turned out to be.
What we learned from the US of A: fucking vote guys, fucking vote, i am talkin with everyone here duh, even ya John "there is no good candidate" in Ass country from the other half of the world, vote the least worse so the worst cannot win dammit
and if you don't have ranked choice voting figure out how to GET ranked choice voting because as soon as they get you into a binary loop you're fucked
I agree! America needs ranked choice voting and approval voting
US elections are not by popular vote, it is by district vote and the districts are redrawn every election cycle giving the ability to rig the elections. This is by design to maintain slavery and is still used today. Even if every undecided voter in California voted for Kamala and she had 2 million more votes than Trump, Like Hilary did, she would have still lost.
Yep
As individuals, there are plenty of good 'Muricans
But there are a huge number of utter cunts, and their society is absolutely abhorrent
This is how I feel about our species as a whole.
Sure there are good individuals, but the world we've created for ourselves to live in as a species is basically a torment nexus. And it's entierly run and being supported by the worst of us, which kinda just ends up just being guilt by association because we can't escape the system we're in so defacto have to support it.
Dude... I voted for Fetterman. I honestly don't know how to change anything now that I've been aggressively bait and switched by a Republican dick. I'm a naive fool.
Direct action
Buy a gun
I already own three and a crossbow. How many guns am I supposed to own? And I own all of these guns and crossbow from before I started following the eightfold path, so I don't think they'll help me much.
Enough for your friends in the crumbles.
It has been every administration's decision since wounded knee, or they wouldn't have medals to take.
Nuh uh, this time there's no takesie-backsies!
Yeah, the US is run by Nazis so this tracks
I mean yeah, they're fucking Nazis. If there weren't cameras and the internet they'd be putting people into gas chambers.
I mean, I would not be surprised if we learned they had already started mass murdering the people ICE abducts.
Yeah, same here.
I feel like that isn't what's stopping them.
What is?
Well, you need to build a gas chamber to put people in a gas chamber. That's, like, work. And you can't entirely slop it, or the gas won't the chamber, and you've just built a crappy shed with poorly fitted tile interior.
He's one sick drunk racist neo-Nazi bastard.
Quite the "warrior" ethos, this Hegseth has. I want him to try this in person and see how well it holds up when someone fights back.
The comment about a Nazi regime is accurate-Hitler argued no one would care about the holocaust because no one cared about what the US did to native Americans.
These Nazis have no idea just how despicable and evil they truly are. They are under the illusion they are the good guys.
They do not think they are the good guys, they genuinely relesh in their evil. They want to be grand moff Tarkin blowing up Alderean. They want to be Darth Vader force choking anyone that bothers them.
well they pratically advised the actually nazis, which based alot of thier stuff on american racist policies.
Can't wait for the design of the My Lai Valor Medal
I was going to make a joke about Hugh Thompson (the helicopter pilot that ended the massacre) being called a woke commie but he was heavily criticized at the time and wasn't even given a medal for his actions until 30 goddamn years later so...
I'm sure Hegseth is arranging medals of honor for the brave troops who committed the Mahmudiyah rape and murders too.
So relevant.
No wonder the U.S., together with the butchers from Israel, is deliberately bombing schools.
What a despicable rogue state, led by the most deranged monsters humanity has to offer—so monstrous that not a trace of humanity remains.
There was never any to begin with. If you haven't yet, you should read Kegsbreath's mother's letter to him. She paints him as the worst person. If his own mother can't find good in him, there never was any.
My personal opinion is that no war medal is a good thing so this is nothing more than an opportunity for this man to reinforce his imperialism.
What other ways are people interpreting this?
If you mean just war medals in general it depends on the context. If you get a medal say as a Union soldier during the Civil War for successfully repeling a Confederate assault that's inherently a good thing to have done, but war is messy so yes it involves killing unfortunately.
Getting injured as an allied soldier on D-Day is a good reason to get a medal.
Getting a medal while fighting to defend Ukraine from it's invasion is also good.
When people are fighting for a just cause its okay to be rewarded for their service.
Being decorated by any of the opposing nations in these conflicts would ultimately by bad. Even if the actions by the soldier was the same.
But worst of all being given a medal for a massacre of women and children is just indefensible
Admittedly, if you want to come at it from an absolutely pacifist worldview about giving people medals for killing, I can't disagree or refute that stance.
Thank you for sharing. My question was more about the tweet. I got the feeling people found this upsetting for a different reason than I do.
Maybe I am missing that he reversed a decision?
I find this upsetting because of "this decision is final, this is settled".
He is presenting himself as way more significant than he is, either because of complete lack of self-awareness, or preemptive defensiveness against inevitable criticism he can't handle, or overcompensating for inability to cope they are on the losing side.
Neither has any semblance of EQ, emotional maturity or humility. These aren't the kinds of people who would rule in a fair, meritocratic system.
Gotcha, basically back at some time in the past 20 soldiers were awarded medals for their actions.
At the end of 2024, under the Biden administration, the DoD opened a panel to assess if these medals should be rescinded.
That panel reached a decision in 2025 on the matter, and decided not to revoke. This was very likely influenced by Hegseth.
https://southdakotasearchlight.com/2024/07/24/defense-secretary-orders-review-of-wounded-knee-massacre-medals/
https://southdakotasearchlight.com/2025/09/26/medals-awarded-for-wounded-knee-massacre-wont-be-rescinded-hegseth-announces/
Ooooooh, thank you. That makes a lot more sense.
Psychopaths going mask off for time infinity through history. We always fight the same war against the psychopaths whenever we let them back stab their way up the power chain every 60 years or so. It's always us vs psychopaths and they always go mask off when they think there's no way they can lose. We are here.
OK fuck Pete, but nowhere in his statement does he say he's honoring the people from that battle.
What he said was it's settled history, so we're not going back and revising things long after the fact. This isn't FIFA, after all.
Well too bad bitch. We're gonna find all those graves and we're gonna get all those medals one way or another.
History is often revisited and re-evaluated in a contemporary context. That's why Biden removed many confederate statues because they were frankly embarrassing, and is very relevant to what happened here.
History is the collective and you're welcome to revisit that. I'll help and probably agree with most of what you write about that.
But these medals? That's not history. That's individual sacrifice, and those are earned independent of whatever asshole is in charge at the time. We shouldn't be messing with those.
Those poor racist fuckers had to sacrifice ammo into children's bodies.
You fucking idiot.
They'd be deserving of a medal if they had actually sacrificed something. Like disobeying the order of massacring women and children on grounds of their conscience and getting court-martialled for it. That would be worth a medal.