Reddit will require you to log in to use old.reddit.com
Reddit will start requiring people to be logged into Reddit to use old.reddit.com.
The new requirement will take effect “over the next month,” a Reddit employee going by the username boat-botany announced on the social media platform today. The person claimed that the change is part of an ongoing effort to “tighten how automated systems access Reddit.”
The Reddit employee wrote:
Old Reddit’s logged-out experience is a significant source of abusive scraping and automated traffic on the platform. It’s also an important interface for many long-time mods and Redditors. To strike the right balance between preserving your access to Old Reddit while preventing abusive scraping and automated traffic, over the next month we will start requiring everyone to log in.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2026/06/reddit-will-require-you-to-log-in-to-use-old-reddit-com/Open linkView original on lemmy.ca
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Do I have to login to use Lemmy? No, no I do not.
Bruh you don't even have to be using lemmy to use lemmy. I seen @mastadon people all the time up in here.
piefed too.
And mbin!
And my axe!
Sorry its a old one.
Thas the best thing about the fediverse. As long as your on, you can communicate with others.
That still only counts as one!
Hello from piefed
How do you like it? I'm thinking about trying it out.
It's nice and has some interesting features, like when there's a crosspost, it show comments from all communities discussing the same post, or the possibility of following topics
This is amazing. Really brings together the different instances
I like it better than Lemmy. There’s more features, and, maybe I’m weird, but I like the Piefed web interface better than Lemmy’s.
@TropicalDingdong @Lexam damn right!!! lol
There’s even an instance that pulls in Reddit posts, but it’s a one way bridge unlike mastodon.
lemmit.online
You can still visit - and scrape - the new Reddit without logging in, so the scraping is obviously just an excuse for what everyone saw coming from the start: the gradual complete shutdown of old Reddit.
Yeah, this is them closing holes in their blocking browser access over a VPN. And also tracking their users so they can sell data to advertisers.
I think scrapers typically run with javascript disabled, and new reddit doesn't load at all that way
Actually new reddit page source doesn't load comments anymore. You need to execute JavaScript in the page for comments now. Old reddit still gives you a simple page with comments, so probably why they made it login only. You can't legally scrape pages behind login because you agreed to their tos by logging in
New Reddit is such a shit tier interface though.
Darn. Old Reddit is the last way to access NSFW subreddits without logging into Reddit.
Yeah, this will be quite a loss… genuinely a shame. It sucks that we can’t scrape and rebuild a copy of the whole site…
With the Redlib instances, RedGifs, Scroller and Reddtastic, you won't have to!
There's a website called Reddtastic that works great!
Huh, I... didn't even think of that. I suppose people could download all the old content before this kicks in, at least, but yeah, that'll be the loss of new stuff moving forward, unless people can sway them over to nsfwlemmy.
Guess you might have to join the untold numbers of throwaway accounts made for that specific purpose
Evidently not enough people left Reddit due to their last enshittification measure, so the enshittification will continue.
If I've learned anything over the past decade, it's that people in general will put up with an astonishing level of enshittification
Most people seem to not even have any notion of how things can be better. They never even think to look up like "block ads". They just take whatever fuckery they get
I really like listening to Amy Poehler's podcast, and there is a running joke that whenever she pulls up YouTube on air, she has to sit through ads.
And guests will kind of rib her for it, but they do it because she hasn't paid for YouTube to get rid of ads. Always like, "omg you still haven't just paid for YouTube?! I can't believe you have ads!"
Like... Are most people simply unaware that ad blockers exist? I've never watched a YouTube ad, nor have I paid a dime to them for anything. I will simply not use YouTube before ever sitting through a single ad.
I just don't understand how people can be so strangely incurious as to not even wonder if there's a way to stop this bullshit.
Perfect sheep for capitalism.
Another reminder that the average IQ is 100.
If they didn't, it wouldn't happen (so much). It's like: we get the government we deserve...
They don’t even notice in my experience.
They think people like us are losing it for even noticing.
Can confirm. Blew a fuse when Spotify started sneaking AI generated music in my playlists and my whole family said I was overreacting and that it didn't matter
Yep, they'll hit you with the:
🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
People on average will literally put up with anything. You can charge them $10/month for their email and you see 90% or so of all people just shrug and then pay it.
Enshittification will continue until morale improves
they have too large of a presence of many of the main subs, like sports, celebrity gossip, movies/shows,,,etc, the og news and politics sub too, and then every new sub that popped up related to news or politics, thats probably where all the anomisity is coming from since the bans are likely coming from these giant subs. sports being another one, and now INDIA too. plus tons of porn subs, and OF peddling subs.
Yeah, mainstream folks like mainstream social media.
When they close old.reddit will be the best time to advertise the lemmy instances that use that similar looking theme by default
It's the mlmym frontend, rather than just a theme.
Some instances run it locally as an alternate at a different URL; lemmy.world is one such.
Keep in mind that rystaf/mlmym has been last updated years ago. old.lemmy.world uses the FHF's fork, which has had a few fixes made to it.
::: spoiler self promotion I actually have a fork of that fork at mschae23/mlmym which is significantly different (in terms of new features and bugfixes) from the others by now. In fact, this is what's deployed by your instance at old.lemmy.today :)
Though it unfortunately seems to be having issues with rate limits at the moment.edit: This should be fixed now! :::
If only they'd integrate the RES features
Man for real, what I would give for a RES "show images" button to expand all images on the page....
In listings? mlmym already has that. I see the button also exists on comment pages on reddit, but that'd be less useful on lemmy where inline images are already expanded by default.
I'm not familiar with what this is, but on desktop going to my instance, lemmy.zip to login definitely does not give me an option to expand all images when looking at the front page or any community page.
If you mean in the comments on a post page, yes those are expanded, but I mean without having to open the post.
mlmym is the old-reddit-like frontend discussed in this thread.
If you open https://old.lemmy.zip/, there is a “show images” button next to the nav links for the different sort orders. Unfortunately, it doesn't actually work there because lemmy.zip has the image proxy enabled, which the old version of mlmym they're running does not support.
Wow, I only knew of the
p.subdomain, haha. This is great, thanks! That's hilarious that they copied the same subdomain, even... I wonder how to tell if an instance supports it apart from just blindly trying.I love how the GitHub entry just calls it "a familiar desktop experience" and nothing more. Perfect. 👌🏻
They don't have to stick it at the same prefix, so there's no reliable way to check by just guessing the name.
It looks like p.lemmy.world is running the Photon frontend. On lemmy.today, we have it at photon.lemmy.today.
Lemmy.today lists the alternate frontends in the instance sidebar, but there's no requirement for an instance to do that.
this is the first steps to require facial recognition and ID down the line, much like FB does.
No, the first step was all the governments literally forcing them and all the other big social media sites through legislation to add age verification. It makes it much easier to throw people in jail for online wrong-think if they have to verify who they are.
I haven’t touched reddit in years, and I have no sympathy for anyone still using that garbage site, so doesn’t bother me that they’re getting rid of the only good way to view it on a desktop. It won’t change anything, most reddit traffic is through the apps.
If I ever browsed Reddit that was the only method I used. Guess I’ll just not use it at all
I use it while logged on to keep trying to sway people over to Lemmy, haha. After all, that's how I found this place...
Gotta hand it to Reddit though.
Somehow they keep coming up with ways to piss off more people.
Enshittification. They have their users locked in, and now it's about trying to make money for their advertisers.
Oh this is nothing. They're currently testing identity verification. As in, "send a pic of your government-issue ID to Persona so they can check who you really are" (and cross-reference you with other sites that use Persona, like LinkedIn etc.)
I'm also surprised they're still allowing old accounts that don't have an email. Or that they're not mandating everybody to add and verify their phone number "for security and 2FA" – another excellent way of cross-referencing people against all kinds of databases. Just imagine what they can get if they work out a deal to share your phone number with Google, or Amazon.
Are they? It seems like reddit's main user base is bots and AI.
All to feed false information to news outlets LLMs, and search engines.
Model collapse.
Disabling mobile browser users with an unclosable popup was the drop for me lol
It almost was for me but old.reddit.com kept it alive for just a little longer. Went to look at my old tabs at lunch today and got hit with the sign-in prompt. Guess it’s dead for me on mobile.
with them going public with the company, it was a death knell. and constantly trying to appease MUSK has caused a lasting effect. he was the reason why so many people got banned in purges last year.
Going public = enshittification. As in the former is a direct cause of the latter
Fuck you spez.
Hopefully this will be the push I need to quit Reddit.
I feel like apart from niche communities, Lemmy now has critical mass to survive on its own!
Unfortunately the niche communities are still the biggest reason I use Reddit.
Guess it's time for me to get off my lazy ass and create/contribute to the martial arts and piano communities
Yeah, I've just started trying to "be the change..." and all that by posting stuff in small communities that haven't been posted in in months/years. I get upvotes, so clearly some people are looking at them.
There's a subreddit where there are thousands of people. The equivalent community on Lemmy has a dozen. I participate there, but it definitely isn't the same. I haven't logged into Reddit in a couple of years, and I browse that old subreddit using old.reddit if that disappears the choice is logging in or using new reddit, neither of which is going to work for me, so I guess that's it for me.
old.reddit is the only way I use it. this goes away, I delete my account.
The support forums like r/stopdrinking and r/CPTSD have been lifesavers for me, but reddit just keeps finding new ways to be terrible. RIP Aaron Swartz
Yup.
I only use old Reddit at work on a computer now. I create a new account every day as it takes that long for them to shadowban me. I get a handful of comments in, get a number of upvotes/downvotes and influence opinions, then I create a new account when I get into work the next day.
Don't have time for a shitty platform on weekends as I have better things to do and I don't care to use it on mobile, even though RedReader still works and looks like old Reddit.
You can't comment or post, but being banned doesn't actually prevent you from logging in and viewing. Well, unless they change that too.
im surprised they , havnt shadowbanned every acct you made the moment you created it, since they often will link your IP and device and automatic ban news ones. unless your IP or device changes everytime.
the others way they ban is through pattern of behaviour, your fingerprint, canvas size, device components.
I spent months deleting my old reddit comments. And I'd have to type in my username on a search engine after about a month or two and find more of my old comments and delete those too.
I know the bots already scrapped my contributions. I wanted to say fuck off to to Reddit and take back my contributions.
I requested my data via https://www.reddit.com/settings/data-request, and used every ID on that list to delete the comment via a small Javascript script I used in the browser (so I didn't need to log on via their API, as I already was logged in).
It took a while because I had a 1 second delay between each delete. Before deleting I had actually replaced the last 1000 comments with some AI slow to poison their DB a little, before I decided to just slowly burn it all.
I've now been reddit free for a year, after having browsed the gods-forsaken site since 2008.
me as well - although, I'm generally logged in. The change is supposed to require you to log in, so... deleting your account in response is a bit of a strange reaction.
Oh they dont like people using their website as a website? Guess this is an issue that will solve itself.
I still read one subreddit regularly via old.reddit.com, via VPN without logging in. I guess I will stop now.
I'm in a similar boat. Deleted my accounts. Visit a few old communities that are hard to move on from, but old.reddit has always been my line in the sand.
Yeah, I deleted mine in 2023.
I've only used reddit once since, to get recommendations for a good e-scooter brand. It's just not something I need enough to jump through unnecessary hoops.
Guess it’s time for me to start back on building the sports communities on the fediverse, goodbye forever /r/cfb
Same, minus the VPN. I popped on to check my community subs.
Redlib still works, for now. I'm using this instance currently.
The login wall is probably gonna kill Redlib though, so read it while you still can.
Man that sucks, redlib is awesome
Remember to scramble all your posts before you leave if you're still in that shithole. Redact works if you're having trouble finding something to use.
Or just get banned. It'll hide all your posts.
Unless that is just an old.reddit thing, that does not appear to be the case
reddit have banned me multiple times, for no reason, and for reasons that they make up. I occasionally stumble on my old posts with user just listed as 'deleted'
reddit likely is using new method of automatically removing keywords from subs.
Will it hide them from the scrapers, though?
Not the ones that pay. They save even deleted posts and likely do versioning to get around the spite mass edits.
I'm (hopefully) not even a percent as evil as the reddit folks and I immediately thought of ways to monetize the scrambled text.
Now you have huge differential datasets of original "humanlike content" to compare to "bad/scrambled" content to include in your whoring out of your userbase's creative works.
Can you even do that anymore? AFAIK Reddit now caps the amount of comment history they show you so how do you find your comments to change them?
I guess if you're EU you can request a dump of all your data as a GDPR request and find the permalinks for all your comments in there.
Does shreddit not work any more?
It works but it's subject to the same limits – it can only find your most recent comments via the Reddit API. But you can upload files from your data request to help it find all your comments.
News to me, last I knew you could even use scripts or an app like redact to automate it.
I regret every time I revisit Reddit. Them shutting down old.reddit will certainly keep me from ever going back. It'll be a blessing in disguise for me.
I was addicted to reddit for over 10 years when they shutdown the RIF app. At first I felt like an addict detoxing and it hurt. but now I can look back at those times and say good riddance to Reddit.
I still enjoy this format of social media, and therefore use Lemmy a lot. It's clear there's no algorithm or bots upvoteing trying to make me angry or keep me on the site. There's less bots here trying to steer the conversation or promote their product. I'm happy with Lemmy. Fuck reddit to death.
Honestly, Lemmy has been good for me in some ways because it isn't as popular and doesn't have the deep niche communities reddit has that I was super active in.
I get more accomplished now because I essentially "finish" my Lemmy browsing and move on, whereas reddit always had something else for me to dive into.
Yup.
'Boredom' is important. The various endless scroll platforms are not good, for a great number of us at least.
I'm the same with you. I was on reddit nearly since the beginning. It was my entire social life, well, mostly. As soon as they killed off TPA, I don't bother anymore. obligatory, fuck spez.
It was ICQ for me but this ain't a grumpy old timer contest
Honestly, one of the few optimistic news I’ve gotten in the last week. Tells me quitting Reddit was a smart move.
My browser clears all cookies from Reddit when I close it down. And every time I go to the new Reddit site, it auto logs me in with my Google account. In some other sites there's the annoying "log in with google account" popup at the top; it doesn't do anything if you don't click to log in. But Reddit doesn't ask. Just says: "Logging you in" and you can click cancel if you're fast enough.
They even auto create you an account if they do this for the first time.
Awhile ago they were also experimenting forcing mobile users to use the app
And now they're also rolling out age verification in the EU (just got an email yesterday). One of the ways to verify your age is with Persona which Discord also tried to use and got a lot of backslash.
You can fix this on the google side
Currently I'm getting forced to use the app when browsing new reddit on mobile. I can scroll about 120px before I get a "paywall" telling me to get the app to continue. Reddit is pure trash.
Holy shit that's so fucked up
Enshitifcation everywhere!
Reddit is dead, it's best we start treating it as such
Exactly the reason why I'm here...
Agreed.
Reddit can suck my balls.
Reddit would like to be the only evil entity scraping reddit
Well. Besides Google who are paying for the privilege.
As opposed to the plain old scraping they do to train AI, and generate revenue by selling user comments for others to train AI.
I read a half-cocked internet theory that a certain someone might've purchased twitter just to gain access to an ex-gf's personal tweets. I judged it as possible but unlikely, as that's a lot of money to spend on such a thing.
Now, we've all heard stories about reddit blocking accounts for no published reason, and tracking folks down across accounts/IP addresses/etc. That code must be pretty expansive to do the things they've done. So one has the thought: if you've ever reached out to the reddit hive mind for some kind of support with a personal issue of any kind then that data about you is still floating around in their database and tied to whatever alternate accounts you have, even if it was the "good old days" when you did it.
Abusive scraping, my ass.
reddits moderation is very expensive, which is why they allow google to scrape thier data. the V3 captcha system is googles thing, reddit cant afford that but google lets them use it in exchange for AI/datamining. reddit and google is quite intertwined, like with mozilla and google.
Had no idea they used that. I edited all my comments to crap then deleted them around the time the admin monkied with the backend database, and stopped using old.reddit to browse once I found lemmy. I once went through the effort of making a temp account to comment on someone else's comment there because they had suggested trying something specifically dangerous and didn't seem to know about it. I doublechecked later and the comment I wrote was caught in some filter, likely the result of the account being too new. I can't imagine what garbage that site will be in the years to come.
So basically every link in Google will be login gated now?
Also easier to track users, incase they want to look for potential "bots", GOOGLE is quite intimately intertwined with reddits operations.
Perfect timing. Today i received a mail that in a few weeks i have to verfiy my age. So now i have two reasons to delete the account.
API debacle was enough for me, as I used Reddit almost exclusively on mobile.
Wow, I haven't seen that email. What country are you in, if I may ask?
They just announced it EU-wide.
Obligatory “fuck u/spez”
Spez is a greedy little piggy
Oh no! Anyway...
What's Reddit?
Bot platform,
Propaganda machine.
It's funny when lemmy accuses reddit of being bots and propaganda. Pot meet kettle, lemmy just has a smaller userbase and the propaganda is more Russian than American.
Have you been here long? You'll learn about ml and hexbear pretty quick. Best to just instance block them.
It blows my mind when people don't acknowledge the legitimately cool corners of Reddit, like /r/FreeGameFindings. The content itself is not all bad there if you know where to look.
There are definitely good parts of Reddit, which is why I still lurk (at least for now).
Stay away from the big subs and especially anything political.
Exactly, agreed!
Most social media needs curating, and the ability to view only your own feed (following etc) reddit isn't alone in having a ton of crap on it, that happens to all in time. It can be useful, but reddit is still mainly trash.
Right, hence us being on here!
More people here will equal a better experience, until there are too many people here and it goes basically the same way as all who came before it.
But at least this isn't run by a dodgy company (as far as I know/yet)
But the whole federated structure is the avoidance of tyranny by nature. If an instance starts acting crazy, the others can simply unlink from it. "Too many" will never happen anyway because the interface is more difficult to use. We should promote it as much as possible, I believe.
People flock If the interface is difficult to use then yes, that will keep people away, but that also makes it a daft design (or a very clever one I guess) I'm not sure if the issue is problematic instances, more likely problematic people especially when/if they become the norm. I'm new here, too early to form an opinion, but this isn't the 1st social media, and they didn't all necessarily start out bad.
Stop Using the Bad Site. Just stop doing it.
I did for two years. This place is great so long as you like talking about trump, tech and trek. Anything involving special interests outside of those though, Reddit has it.
Reddit was so surprised I was back it assumed my account was compromised and permananned me.
My VPN use probably didn't help either
FYI lemmy.world is hostile to VPNs too; I just had to switch servers because it wouldn't let me post a comment due to VPN use.
This happens to me a lot. I have a user ID and password, what does it matter that I'm using a vpn to post a comment?
I did an AskLemmy post about it a few months ago: https://lemmy.world/post/43898917?scrollToComments=true
As you can see, there's not even consensus on whether or not VPNs are in fact being treated differently, let alone why. There are some in that thread that insist it's a great idea, too.
Thanks that was informative.
seems like dbzero is also very hostile, wierdly havnt been on most of those communities, but im banned there for some reason. did tankies take over that instance.
There's a way to View Moderation History on yourself and others on Lemmy. Sometimes the people that ban you leave an explanation. Sometimes they think it's obvious or you're beneath them so they don't.
Reddit is Ground Zero for Empty Internet Theory.
seems like its been dead internet for a few years, spez just stupidly made it more obvious by banning so many people, i think this is why he switch to shadowbans, less people notice, and not too many will complain. since people, bot owners wont notice until its much later.
What's your special interests?
Specific games I like
Local (and I do mean local) discussion
Brewing
Caravanning
Car stuff (communities around the specific make/model of car I own)
Etc...
My city's subreddit is very active (though the moderators recently went mad with power). I'm actively stealing their content to grow the Lemmy community for it.
People talk about legal stuff a lot on Reddit, including asking (ex-)cops questions about them (because lots of (ex-)cops use Reddit).
city tankies are pretty bad. my citys sub has been taken over by "tankies of the city", and conservatives too. like people asking for specific questions: fare tickets, jury duty, you get a holier than thou response.
Not all authoritarians or assholes are tankies.
The mod guiltiest for the abuses of /r/tampa is probably a card-carrying Liberal, given he's a(n alleged) former Marine that allows racist dogwhistles to be posted in /r/tampa but also invites people to /r/liberalgunowners. He goes by /u/md28usmc.
they ban you even if go too hard on trump. people arnt just seeing the astroturfing for trump on reddit. after the election, it was very chaotic on reddit, they were banning people left and right spez was definitely cleaning house for IPO, and to appease the gop once he fully came to power last year. spez acted everytime musk ask him to ban people.
Uhh.... no. I shit on him routinely on Reddit and I have yet to be banned.
Do you mean actively call for violence against him? Then yeah, they'll ban you for that.
they allow criticism of trump, but not too much. it can be implication, or inneundo that can get you ban.
Right, I covered that in my last paragraph.
Calls for violence are against their ToS. Shocker!
Go into your reddit accounts and advocate for lemmy
If I wasn’t completely banned from Reddit maybe lol
bro. new mac on a router = new ip. new email = done.
perma banned 17 times
I only use it to shitpost and steal content. its a bad place
same haha. I ONLY use a vpn online, and they banned the VPN IPs. if i went on there without a VPN, they'd require my ID as I'm in a country that requires ID for social media. And that sure as fucking shit isn't fucking happening.
hopefully reddits own filter, or subreddits dont ban you quickly
yea nah, we don't want most of those idiots here, they can stay on their stupid surveillance app
Eh, there are a few minor communities I would want to invite. The rest can proverbially burn with the platform.
Got to shout Redlib from the rafters.
What do they use? RSS? I always thought they used old.reddit
I believe it still relies on Reddit’s APi however, the token used is regularly refreshed to circumvent their rate limiting.
We really need a firefox addon to block reddit from google results automatically
Seriously, what an odd take. The vast majority of questions simply cannot be answered these days if you exclude reddit from your search results. It used to not be this way. Something's gotta give.
some very specific questions wont show up on other forums that reddit has, since most people from other forums/sites moved to reddit to start communities there, or niche content. outside of something like health related fourms, are still healthy, or something about evading SOCIAL media bot/spam detection methods.
i was used to be on other forums that largely died out or became less useful because reddit had most if not all the answers or discussions. remember the subreddit bans in the 2017ish-2018, i joined a international forum that they migrated to and left that one, as it started to deviate from the actual original subreddit it came from. it did replicate the UI of old reddit quite nicely though.
uBlacklist
It works for those SEO spam sites too. You visit such a site, go back in history to your search engine, and in the result's top right corner block the website. It's neat. It doesn't work by default with Qwant and you need to add some line in the settings that's in one of the GitHub issues.
You can subscribe to Super-SEO-Spam-Suppressor to have it automagically updated too.
looks like for Chrome (if that even supports plugins anymore, who even knows anymore) and Firefox.. looks like it could work
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
I've been using RedReader to view the 2-3 subreddits that don't have an equivalent here on Lemmy. Hope those still work...
I think redreader has official permission to use the API because it has a disability focus.
Correct, RR has unusual exception because it's the only blind-friendly Reddit app (which is legitimately amazing at that). And then other apps like the forked Slide (which I use) piggyback off of it, pretending they're RR so that they can still function, too.
I use old. as the only way to access reddit, but I've noticed that more and more pages are sending me to the new pages. I tried new for a day the other day and didn't really like it. So I guess I'll use it until old is gone.
might be time to get one of the many redirect user scripts
ok, just add this to your duckduckgo searches:
-reddit
😉👌 done
You don't need to. You can actually block a website from appearing in results as long as you keep duckduckgo cookies.
Click the three dots besides a result and select "Block this site from all results".
oh man, that is awesome!
I finally switched over. The changes to reddit mobile were awful, this broke the camel’s strained back.
No need Reddit, in the moment to verify my ID, delete Reddit.
Just got this email from reddit:
Would be funny if they mark my account as teen when some of my nude images have been on there for years^^
ive been saying they want to become facebook, Full ID(DRIVERS license) and facial recognition. eventually. plus they want to train googles ai models or openail.
I have FB but not use, IG not use and no like the full control…
They want your ID because they're legally forced to. A VPN will fix it.
This is presumably because they've been boosting their anonymous agitator account with their profiles set to private, and there are tools out there that reveal said hidden comments like arctic-shift which I assume utilise old.reddit. They are trying so desperately to curate a rightwing majority narrative that simply isn't true.
What do you mean try? They are not desperate. They just are doing it. On every platform. The left is absolute cooked. There is no defense from the left against this. The left saw the writing on the wall and shot themselves in the foot over this decades ago. Now the right have the tools that the left used and because the left gave out to capitalism and profit seeking, the right was able to co-opt the platforms and use those same tools to accomplish a hostile takeover. Just wait until the kids today who experience the internet and the views spread on these platforms become adults. Maybe we can make some bean and moth memes until then.
This is short-term thinking. We've got the far-right in my country (Not the US) starting to flail at scrutiny, we've got Trump's attempting to rig the midterms hitting roadblock after roadblock after roadblock. We've got civil disobedience, sabotage, subtle dissent increasing in volume and frequency throughout the western world. Outside of the US the far-right is emboldened by the regime but its increasingly looking like trump’s got no clothes.
Russia, one of the main sponsors and recruiters of these fucks are enduring devastating losses on a daily basis, to their infrastructure as well as their citizenry they send in waves upon waves of futility, its only a matter of time until they fall.
The only reason things appear 'cooked' for now, is because of the massive sums of money from the Epstein-adjacent tech overlords desperately trying to escape scrutiny, trying to buy out and control the narrative but it just ain't happening.. Bubble's fit to burst.
Choose hope.
edited - Its happening RIGHT NOW. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/palantir-alex-karp-interview-openai-anthropic-b3007175.html
Interesting thread linked in that article—mentions that usage has dropped on new reddit, but TPTB don’t care because they’re making bank on all the new ads.
What a piece of shit company
Their ad copy now says stuff like "join the realest place on the internet!" Pretty funny when more than half the users are bots or otherwise bad actors there to forum slide or otherwise build consensus
Reddit is a disinformation fusion center modded by types like Ghislane Maxwell, nothing more. Don't forget. Delete that cancer from your life
I'm not surprised, I was using it to visit NSFW subs for uh research recently in an incognito tab. It kept flagging me and not letting me in. Said I could log in if I think it's an error. Like MF, I am specifically not logged in on purpose.
Redreader/throwaway account
STOP TALKING ABOUT REDDIT!
What the fuck is reddit?
what the fuck
Redreader still works for Android
https://f-droid.org/packages/org.quantumbadger.redreader
Ah but redreader parses old.reddit.com. So with the proposed changes, you will probably need an account to use even the excellent RedReader.
IIRC, when the APIpocolypse happened, Reddit tried really hard to nerf Redreader. They got shamed into allowing it access again on accessibility grounds.
It's only a matter of time before it stops working.
Take solace in knowing that "lol, fuck reddit then" is a perfectly cromulent response to this.
I just hope Lemmy doesn't become Reddit 2.0
ok then i go to frontends. if that also shuts down, then bye bye reddit.
say bye anyway. spez and co don't deserve your attention.
I guess this will break millions of search links built up over the years
Oh you know old.reddit its next.
I can still log in after my mass banning. So I get all the subs I like (not mains, hobbies), they get no ad revenue as I adblock everything. They just get a BS stat that I was there and they killed off my engagement stats because of the frivolous ban.
Its like they can't see they are driving towards a cliff.
Here is the thing, I don't think they are driving towards a cliff. In olden times, reddit was one of several options for doomscrolling, with Slashdot, Digg, et Al. When Digg shot themselves in the foot, Reddit was ready to take up the slack, so eternal September happened, and Digg essentially withered away.
At that time the combined user base of these sites was probably an order of magnitude less of present day reddit.
I believe that reddit has achieved critical mass, and they can pretty much do any shit they want. They may lose users, but they'll be a drop in the bucket.
The inertia is too large.
Myspace, Digg and Slashbot thought that too. Look at FB basically a bot farm like reddit. Something new will come along, maybe its Lemmy, it was Voat for a second. Discord, IG, TikTac have all be chipping away at them.
They all will fall down if they over reach.
Not being combative, its just how this goes imo.
Yeah, they can shoot themselves in the foot, and alternatives exist/will appear, but if you have whatever millions of users, and you lose 25%, Reddit will still be a 500 lb gorilla.
Also, we have to remember that the vast majority of users are like your typical FB users; mindless and couldn't care less about these changes.
Reddit predates doomscrolling. It wasn't even originally algorithmic if I recall, just entirely user driven.
Digg, reddit, Slashdot and others were and are doomscrolling in nature.
Also, while the main input was upvotes, your home was a combination of weights between front page and your subscriptions. Maybe crude by today's standards, but algorithms.
It absolutely wasn't doomscrolling thirteen years ago. Upvotes took things to the front page if you fucked with that. Otherwise it was just another forum, except it had sub forums for literally everything. One forum to rule them all. It wasn't even legitimately a "social media" till after they released the official app and "new reddit." Were you even out of school back when reddit was coming up? It wasn't an infinite scroll and was intended to be checked once a day. You'd check reddit after your emails while drinking your coffee. Like, it absolutely wasn't doomscrolling. Doomscrolling wasn't a thing. It was just a forum for any/every thing and people largely hung out in whatever corners they settled into. Like every post used to be filled with professionals or experts on the subject and there was considerable valuable discussion. Old reddit was very much a remnant of the old internet.
Out of school? Kind of. I wrote my first programs on a PDP 11 on a TTY. An actual perforated paper, daisy wheel TTY. No CRT. I was an admin of a Wang VS100 in the late 80's. Later I was a systems Manager at a small campus, and admin'd one of the servers myself, in the gopher/usenet era. My first browser was mosaic (Or was it Lynx? can't remember), and I coded my first website in HTML, no version number, HTML. Last time I bothered to look, my reddit account was 17 years old, and that was my second acount, I lost the password to my first, older account. So yeah, I was out of school. I do look younger than I am.
Well I certainly feel older after reading all that garbage. Feel better about yourself now? Might wanna get your memory checked then since you've clearly forgotten that reddit predates doomscrolling. It's absolutely that now, but for nearly a decade it was just a user driven content aggregator forum. Doomscrolling wasn't a thing. Infinite feeds weren't a thing. Prior to Cambridge analytica rage engagement feed algorithms weren't commonplace. I'm not sure why you're insisting it was always doomscrolling, all of that kicked up from basically nothing into high gear during Trump's first term.
There, there...
To be honest, I thought they already required that. They just want to keep killing their site, but people refuse to switch over to Lemmy, so niche communities only remain on Reddit and Discord. It's very disheartening. People are morons. There, I said it.
Well got permabanned anyway. Seems like ibhad an old Account which was banned. I didnt even remember. I did make a new account some days ago and got banned for breaking the rules(avoiding the ban with another account) fine, i deleted that Account aswell :D
Same fuck reddit. 60% is AI
I get banned by bots on Reddit all the time for stupid reasons. When I appeal, if I'm lucky enough to contact a human moderator, they just tell me to "follow the bot's instructions." But the bot's instructions usually involve deleting the completely harmless or well-meaning comment I made. Fuck that.
I check Reddit like once a week since I started using Lemmy. I guess it will be down to nonce per week
uh
Nonce is used extensively in the context of cryptography to mean "used exactly one time". Usually this refers to a random number that a server shares with a client to establish secure communications.
Excuse me if this a stupid question (I'm not a native English speaker), but isn't that what "once" means?
The difference is small and pedantic:
"Once" means "A single time"
"Nonce" means "Used a single time"
Nonce carries extra information that something is being used.
Wikipedia claims this term dates to middle English:
OK, thanks for the explanation. So basically "nonce = used once"
And here I thought I was creating a new word
thanks, interesting :)
That's what it's supposed to mean? Because that is not the context I've ever seen it used in.
yeah that's the only meaning I see it used with in the UK
i used to visit lemmy more regularly, but when .ee vanished there is less content so i visit later in the day.
this is why I use safereddit.com and always have. rarely, if ever, lets me down.
Never heard of it before but when I typed it, it went to redlib - which is what I use. Lol
Redlib is a self-hosted software - there are many different public instances.
Correct me if i'm wrong -- I use redlib as well -- I thought redlib worked by scraping old.reddit.com?
surprised they still have old.reddt available. before i got kicked out they were planning on shutting it down to force everyone onto the new shit. made my ban less painful
It is available, but it isn't convenient in this day and age where 95% of posts are media files - and they redirect you to the new website when you open a photo/video.
Plus it's always prompting you to get their app if you scroll down a half a page in old.reddit on your phone. You can get around this by setting desktop mode but I'm sure they'll figure out a way to get around that too.
Facebook does the same thing by breaking features that worked in the browser to try to force you to their app. Sucks
oh yea, i look through reddit on a firefox browser on the mobile phone. if it was on a pc, the adblocks can easily block it. Facebook i used ublock origin to get rid of thier login page popup, after searching on reddit how to block facebook login.
I've looked up stats on number of apps average phone has. The app count seems unrealistically low with how everything is pushing apps these days.
I'm surprised by that but maybe your average user has more sense than I'm giving them credit for.
I'm currently pissed off at my dishwasher. I had a Bosch 500 at my old house, it was great. Moved to a new house, dishwasher fails, I replace it with another Bosch 500. In the 4 years they took features away. The top rack no longer is hinged , the time display is gone, replaced by 3 LEDs indicating time remaining, and the delay start is entirely gone unless you use the app. Classic enshittification.
I've been banned so many times there's no point in even visiting that site anymore.
I got banned for reasons I don't really understand. So, I just accepted it and it's fine.
They never explained the reasons to me either.
worst part is fucking shadow bans
Or the famous subscription followed by an autoban because they don't like your IP after all.
evil things, especially when you are new to the site, have no idea and are posting, but no one can ever see your posts.
They do that to me for fun apparently.
thats the thing, reddit started using AI to moderate all bans, this obfuscate the reason they ban people, it allows them to ban without getting much pushback. Also the fact they RARELY even lift a ban when someone appeals everyday for MONTHS.
The bigger mystery to me is why people try so hard to get back in. I had a 14 year account and when I was banned I just moved on. The last couple of years the place was a pit.
probably the only SC they would engage on, or niche content? not many people know about Lemmy, let alone the other platforms. i often see people interact mostly on reddit doom scrolling in public, or on tiktok.
Can't you only appeal once?
no you can appeal once per day, indefinitely. the thing is they used to give feedback or reason of ban, but now because of the amount of appeals they are getting by AI banning, they rarely lift a ban. only admins have the power to unban people, since admins are actual reddit employees, there is likely very few of them compared to how many appeals they have to go through. i think they even use AI to ignore most of the appeals, and randomly choose which ones they will lift a ban.
of course, since they have been shadowbanning like crazy, they tend to ignore people with multiple accounts, because somehow thier system thinks your accounts are botting.
I have started to block reddit as much as a I can already.
I wish, there would be an option in Lemmy/PieFed to hide any article that references reddit.
You can set up filters in both to do just that.
I have yet to find out how.
The way of the zombie accounts.
Bad idea.
Ooof, is Redlib going to crash out then?
Goodbye r/reddevils 😭
For real...the only real place to discuss Aston Villa as well...there's a community on Lemmy but its dead as dead can be.
Yeah, a couple here on Lemmy too but also dead.
yeah, this is the first of several steps to killing old reddit. And good riddance. I hope the whole company burns.
It was a long time coming, but when old reddit dies, I will have a cold beer for all the "good" times and then I'll be on my way onto new adventures elsewhere.
Just in time for them to lock my old account.
Byyyeeeee
Oh? Guess what I require old.reddit.com to do?
MOTHERFUCKER
There are many instances of Redlib which can be used to sidestep reddit dot com. I'd recommend finding a few good ones if you find yourself getting info from reddit very often. Or better yet, host your own.
What I would like to know, though, is what is the best way to automatically use a Redlib instance whenever I click a reddit dot com link on my device. I have an app from f-droid called "sidestep" which works ok but not great. I'm looking for something which ideally works on both android and Linux.
Good stuff, I'll give it a try. The main issue I have with sidestep is it breaking navigation. If I want to use the back button to go from the redlib page back to my search results, Firefox just closes the tab
Even Strava has locked me out at this point...
Shit, I locked Strava out of my data by leaving when they started paywalling my data
Yeah but everyone still sends me routes on there and I could export them and then import them to my bike computer but no more.
I run, but I used ridewithgps to do routing back when I was running with a group and they sent out routes for the long runs
I got shadow banned like for been 2 months still I am and can't even get karma up as people won't see my comments so I just use that red alien for surfing and watching people comments that's it 👾