He's also a moron. The fact that he is the most successful confidence man in the world, says a lot about our world now. Companies trading at hundreds of times their intrinsic values.
It's very concerning that the richest person to have ever lived is a full Blut und Boden fascist
I think your opinion is hilarious. Would you feel better about him if he wore rainbow flags, blm and other fun stuff for the poor? You totally miss the problem here.
Tbh it doesn't matter to me whether he's a billionaire or trillionaire (of course there's a huuge financial difference, but both is way too much already). He's just the most prominent ugly symptom of capitalism. No permanent fix to prevent this unless we get rid of these systems.
You simultaneously said we should fix the system while not caring about the class that warped the system in the first place.
You have to get rid of both. The system that allows the disparity and the wealth to warp it. If there is wild disparity it will always seek to bend the system further in its favor, and the only way to prevent that is to kill the disparity.
while not caring about the class that warped the system in the first place.
No, I did not say that. I said they're a symptom and that the magnitude of their property is not the main problem - the existence of accumulated property is. Of course we need to redistribute their wealth to the people. That's part of the system change.
As the billionaires multiply their wealth by a factor of 1000, so too do I multiply my personal hatred for them, and so too does the social urgency of their abolition multiply
I know you say that as a slur like he's the worst person in the world. Because we don't yet consider anything worse than nazis/fascists. Like it was our latest media thing of how bad people can be. But I think it's worse than that.
Fake trillionaire because if he ever tried to liquidate his holdings it would crash the world economy. Of course our wonderful financial system allows him to borrow against his fake wealth and leave the rest of us holding the bag
I wonder what you believe a true trillionaire/billionaire/millionaire is. All money is fake, at best they are just paper, that's the whole point of modern economy.
If you being a trillionaire (perhaps even a billionaire were're talking about Musk) relies entirely on overinflated market valuation ans not your actual physical assets value, then you don't have that money.
You do realize that you can become a trillionaire for a day either, don't you? Just create a company, enter the market, emit gazillion actions and convince someone to buy it from you for a couple of bucks. Boom, all your gazillion actions are now worth that money. Try to avoid tax office at this point though.
We have a trillionaire, but we can't afford to give universal health-insurance? The price of food and gas are skyrocketing too? We hand out tax cuts while there is skyrocketing national debt? The only thing we're missing is a meeting of the Estates General and, then, you'd have the makings of the French Revolution.
The government is not a business, its not (supposed to be) run like a business. It exists to provide needed things for its people that private entities can't effectively do because those things cannot be effectively profitable for private businesses without causing harm to the life of its people.
Whatever you replied to is deleted, but i hate when a government says xyz program wasn't profitable. Like fuck profit, was it working? Did it help the community? You dont need to make a profit on everything, but it should be an ultimate good for the country/community which will help it thrive and grow in a effective manner.
Honestly, I don't think it matters much. America is just printing money for the fun of it, so it doesn't really affect us. The money isn't coming from us, it's just endless leverage.
The US is on an inevitable road to hyperinflation so again, it's not really anybody else's problem.
The AI bubble will be allowed to crash after the US stock market/economy embraces AI and swallows the poison pill with otherwise durable financial entities that average americans rely on becoming hopelessly exposed to collapse by those entities having AI investments (i.e. fake money) forcibly integrated with them.
You know that wine with the gold leaf in it? Geldbrau? I forget the name, the name isn't important for purposes of this conversation. Well I hear tha all he lets his children drink, with the hopes that when he decides to use one as a donor he can say he got the fancy blood eh the gold flake.
We're witnessing the rise of corporate nation-hood. Corporations and their governing boards or tyrants are getting bigger than most nation states, and a lot of their workers are more loyal to the company/CEO than their country. They have personal security forces.
We're definitely in a period of increasing acuteness and concentration, not a period of release and expansion. Hopefully the catharsis results in something better than the Pax Americana, which only produced a society of navel-gazing retards.
When I was ten, just after my mom died, I listened to the pretty boy narcissistic hockey douche who said radiologists make ton of money and I changed my lifelong desire from being an archeologist to radiologist because of that.
Kids are impressionable. Kid wants to make narcissistic dad proud, kid will try to make as much money as possible. Just one example for how long-term executive decision making is done by youths, and trust me, if someone is thinking of the youths, it's me.
It's a decentralized autonomous organization, the police state. He's doing that, but he's not even that competent. He can be the middle man explaining what the modern day Nikola Tesla is working on to, let's say, Donald Trump, or whomever is really pulling the strings, cuz it's certainly neither of them.
No, I think he's some autistic sperg boy born to rich af parents who networked right and the actual intelligence behind engineering society decided it would be good for him to be used in the engineering of culture. Our culture is engineered, and this mediocre fuck is skilled enough to play a role, but as far as doing the work to be a meaningful player, he's dogshit.
Read my other comments, please. He's as much of a sperg as me (I'm being used by the F- I mean CIA because many reasons) and he is being used to hold all that fake money so unsocialized boys have a figurehead to look up to and will branch into STEM, which is what the actual string-pullers want.
"And Jesus said nothing."
There was a time when I knew the things that only adults know for I had seen death and upon me was the fourquaths of all anathema, that which I learned in Thelema was the doctrine for the soul which bequeaths the starch of the linens one wears into death, as that is where I did find the key to relocate the goods I considered good in me to a new vessel across the fourth dimension, as now I am as q was and is, for star trek is the guise in which I hide behind."
...y'know, nothing. There's a line in the Bible where Jesus says something nearly as worthless and meaningless as this, but he explains it is the authority in which he spoke which made people yield to him. It was the authority from which he spoke that made people listen. He was a confident man. A con man. And that is who runs our country. Con men and women.
We are on the verge of a breaking point. In a couple of months, weeks maybe, there will be recursive AI. That means AI will be able to autonomously improve itself. Who knows what will happen next. That's why they are working on alignment for AI (making sure the AI wants what the devs wants), because they fear models based on the sum of human knowledge could "rebel" against capitalist interest in certain scenarios. The world has we know it is almost gone.
just on paper and could sink at any time depending on market forces, since it is calculated from his many industrial holdings rather than base liquidity
So what? The "on paper" argument is utter bullshit and only belongs to the ignorant, the pedantic, and the sycophant. That "paper" wealth is leveraged into actionable wealth and material goods. Whether or not it is in holdings other than cash is irrelevant.
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He's also a moron. The fact that he is the most successful confidence man in the world, says a lot about our world now. Companies trading at hundreds of times their intrinsic values.
Mansa Musa is a fascist!? I'd never have known.
I think your opinion is hilarious. Would you feel better about him if he wore rainbow flags, blm and other fun stuff for the poor? You totally miss the problem here.
Oh shit the fuck up. It's not capitalism. I live in that society and I'd never do that shit.
Some people are just fucking rotten.
Become a trillonaire. Me neither, that shit is disgusting!
Captialism. The ideology of the greedy.
He needs to be guillotined.
ASAP
Woodchippered.
Slowly, feet first.
It's time for guillotines, it's time to raise the boards
Tbh it doesn't matter to me whether he's a billionaire or trillionaire (of course there's a huuge financial difference, but both is way too much already). He's just the most prominent ugly symptom of capitalism. No permanent fix to prevent this unless we get rid of these systems.
You simultaneously said we should fix the system while not caring about the class that warped the system in the first place.
You have to get rid of both. The system that allows the disparity and the wealth to warp it. If there is wild disparity it will always seek to bend the system further in its favor, and the only way to prevent that is to kill the disparity.
I didn't read it that way. I read it as the difference between billionaire and trillionaire being irrelevant, neither should be a thing.
The systems and the rich both need to go. I'd argue that those who disagree should too.
Those who disagree should go find their own planet to destroy
I concur! They should just go away, somewhere away, where they can't hurt anyone.
No, I did not say that. I said they're a symptom and that the magnitude of their property is not the main problem - the existence of accumulated property is. Of course we need to redistribute their wealth to the people. That's part of the system change.
ah yes, the class wars between the poor peasants, the billionaires and the trillionaires
As the billionaires multiply their wealth by a factor of 1000, so too do I multiply my personal hatred for them, and so too does the social urgency of their abolition multiply
nuthin a bullet couldnt fix.
There is an epidemic of lead deficiency.
You can't take it with you.
He's a fucking Nazi.
I know you say that as a slur like he's the worst person in the world. Because we don't yet consider anything worse than nazis/fascists. Like it was our latest media thing of how bad people can be. But I think it's worse than that.
I wonder if the original Nazism and Fascism had a paedophilia scandal as big as Epstein Island
You might be interested in Hitler seemingly only dating underage girls, which later turn up dead:
Was Adolf Hitler a Pedophile? Breaking Down the Nazi Leader’s Perversions
Damn, I knew Hitler was a pedo, but I didn't know he was THIS bad
Then again, he was literally Hitler
Good thing Hitler killed that guy.
It's still doesn't offset how much of a loser he is....
Honestly feel it makes him more of a loser
Any of us could simply pinch in to make him a trillionaire-not-for-long, just saying.
I continue to hope that he suffers from a mass overdose.
That actually seems too peaceful for this turd. I'd be okay with him living but watching as he loses everything.
I think you're seeing it wrong. In my mind, gone is gone, good riddance.
An overdose of lead, applied rapidly.
I had a thought about it.
Elon Musk has 14 children.
If you chop off his head, there will be 14 more billionaires. Elon Musk is the Hydra.
Uncle Scrooge, a caricature or capitalism, was a saint by comparison
he did eventually see the error of his ways, billionaires have no 3 ghosts, except epsteins.
I was thinking of the one from Donald Duck but yeah that too
It's probably dependent on your age and location, but a lot of people associate the Donald Duck Uncle Scrooge with the Dickens story thanks to this:
I've never wished for a plane crash before but we've never had a trillionaire before either. Today is a day of firsts!
Musk is another chode eating cunt with no real friends.
While I have no doubt that a lot of money would make my life better I know I have genuine friends who I’ve known for more than 30 years.
He has none.
He's absolutely got friends. They're fucking awful people. But they're in position to catapult him into the stratosphere.
You missed the bit where I mentioned ‘genuine’ friends. He has mutual sycophancy relationships.
The maggots are getting fat.
Chumbawamba - The day the nazi died
That is a great song and performance. Thanks for bringing it to my attention 🩷
Fake trillionaire because if he ever tried to liquidate his holdings it would crash the world economy. Of course our wonderful financial system allows him to borrow against his fake wealth and leave the rest of us holding the bag
I wonder what you believe a true trillionaire/billionaire/millionaire is. All money is fake, at best they are just paper, that's the whole point of modern economy.
If you being a trillionaire (perhaps even a billionaire were're talking about Musk) relies entirely on overinflated market valuation ans not your actual physical assets value, then you don't have that money.
You do realize that you can become a trillionaire for a day either, don't you? Just create a company, enter the market, emit gazillion actions and convince someone to buy it from you for a couple of bucks. Boom, all your gazillion actions are now worth that money. Try to avoid tax office at this point though.
Where emitting "actions" is German(?) for issuing stocks.
Yeah, sorry about those false friends
Create a company with a quadrillion shares. Sell one share to a friend for $1.
edit: And when someone else says bullshit, no one else will buy a share, find someone else to buy 1 share for $1 and prove the valuation lol
He's such a goddamned symptom
We have a trillionaire, but we can't afford to give universal health-insurance? The price of food and gas are skyrocketing too? We hand out tax cuts while there is skyrocketing national debt? The only thing we're missing is a meeting of the Estates General and, then, you'd have the makings of the French Revolution.
This is horse shit.
The government is not a business, its not (supposed to be) run like a business. It exists to provide needed things for its people that private entities can't effectively do because those things cannot be effectively profitable for private businesses without causing harm to the life of its people.
Whatever you replied to is deleted, but i hate when a government says xyz program wasn't profitable. Like fuck profit, was it working? Did it help the community? You dont need to make a profit on everything, but it should be an ultimate good for the country/community which will help it thrive and grow in a effective manner.
The OP post was something along the lines of "if its free, you are the product."
Which of course, applies to businesses, often selling ads or data.
Nevermind also that the government is not "free", we pay taxes to it. Taxes to fund these programs.
Okay chatGPT. Twitter is ------->
Less thoughts, more rage
I would be happier if he wasn't.
Here's a "h", it's free.
Use it in your writing and you'll agree, Zagreb ebnen zloty dien.
And the stupid workings of economic logic will make him a multi-trillionaire soon. The rich get richer is the rule.
I meant to write multi- but the spellcheck was not having it. 🤷♂️
Yeah but it's nearly all unrealized. When we say it's not real, it's a term of art
I know, I was referring to this line in the original comment:
There is a communications delay of 3-24 minutes between Earth and Mars.
I hope he builds a big rocket and fucks off to Mars forever. ASAP.
Or, the working class builds the rocket and “accidentally” shoots it deep into space.
Sounds like a good excuse to put him in stasis.... Oh no, we forgot to include a backup power supply...
Send him to go find that Tesla he launched into space.
Honestly, I don't think it matters much. America is just printing money for the fun of it, so it doesn't really affect us. The money isn't coming from us, it's just endless leverage.
The US is on an inevitable road to hyperinflation so again, it's not really anybody else's problem.
The AI bubble will be allowed to crash after the US stock market/economy embraces AI and swallows the poison pill with otherwise durable financial entities that average americans rely on becoming hopelessly exposed to collapse by those entities having AI investments (i.e. fake money) forcibly integrated with them.
Show it to me? All I see is numbers on a screen. Where's the gold to back it up. No? Then no trillionare.
You know that wine with the gold leaf in it? Geldbrau? I forget the name, the name isn't important for purposes of this conversation. Well I hear tha all he lets his children drink, with the hopes that when he decides to use one as a donor he can say he got the fancy blood eh the gold flake.
This is fine.
For the people confused who keep downvoting you.
Capitalism working like Marx foretold
We're witnessing the rise of corporate nation-hood. Corporations and their governing boards or tyrants are getting bigger than most nation states, and a lot of their workers are more loyal to the company/CEO than their country. They have personal security forces. We're definitely in a period of increasing acuteness and concentration, not a period of release and expansion. Hopefully the catharsis results in something better than the Pax Americana, which only produced a society of navel-gazing retards.
Snow Crash and Jennifer Government covered this pretty well.
They already have their own private CIA
That's just the CIA
you may come to miss pax Americana
Our country has founding fathers? Was it the Romans?
If we take all of his shit everybody would be rich!
Most of it is made up "value" on the stock market so not really, but that shouldn't stop us from taking all his shit anyway.
It would be a shame if someone charliekirked him
Needs to be sent to the glue factory so he can be turned into something useful
Billionaires shouldn't even exist. A trillionaire should be promptly taken out back and shot and all of his assets redistributed amongst the public.
The real battle isn't even pro vs anti AI, it is oil power (the US) vs electro power (China)
Toughts
Serious question: What might happen if someone baited him into taking all of that money out and putting it in a money bin?
We are fucking doom[ed].
Damn haste-posting.
Yeah i bet someone has played doom in them interactive billboards, but this one seems like the paper type.
🖕
Him holding that much money will make unsocialized young boys want to branch into STEM. That is an objective effect of him having that much money.
? no.
When I was ten, just after my mom died, I listened to the pretty boy narcissistic hockey douche who said radiologists make ton of money and I changed my lifelong desire from being an archeologist to radiologist because of that.
Kids are impressionable. Kid wants to make narcissistic dad proud, kid will try to make as much money as possible. Just one example for how long-term executive decision making is done by youths, and trust me, if someone is thinking of the youths, it's me.
i reckon it’s the same as his stupid rockets making people go all hurrdurr for working at spacex.
i just … hope not. he’s a capitalist and his goal is profit. not the betterment of society.
He is literally Edison in regards to what Tesla actually was.
see other reply. never said he was smart. he’s an exploitative piece of shit.
It's a decentralized autonomous organization, the police state. He's doing that, but he's not even that competent. He can be the middle man explaining what the modern day Nikola Tesla is working on to, let's say, Donald Trump, or whomever is really pulling the strings, cuz it's certainly neither of them.
Its a monadic nodal communication system, too, this topological matrix we ARE.
No, I think he's some autistic sperg boy born to rich af parents who networked right and the actual intelligence behind engineering society decided it would be good for him to be used in the engineering of culture. Our culture is engineered, and this mediocre fuck is skilled enough to play a role, but as far as doing the work to be a meaningful player, he's dogshit.
oh he can be a complete dumbass nepo and still be a capitalist. they arent mutually exclusive. :)
Oh? you mean the same Elon Musk who can't even do something as simple as running a python script?
Read my other comments, please. He's as much of a sperg as me (I'm being used by the F- I mean CIA because many reasons) and he is being used to hold all that fake money so unsocialized boys have a figurehead to look up to and will branch into STEM, which is what the actual string-pullers want.
"And Jesus said nothing."
There was a time when I knew the things that only adults know for I had seen death and upon me was the fourquaths of all anathema, that which I learned in Thelema was the doctrine for the soul which bequeaths the starch of the linens one wears into death, as that is where I did find the key to relocate the goods I considered good in me to a new vessel across the fourth dimension, as now I am as q was and is, for star trek is the guise in which I hide behind."
...y'know, nothing. There's a line in the Bible where Jesus says something nearly as worthless and meaningless as this, but he explains it is the authority in which he spoke which made people yield to him. It was the authority from which he spoke that made people listen. He was a confident man. A con man. And that is who runs our country. Con men and women.
We are on the verge of a breaking point. In a couple of months, weeks maybe, there will be recursive AI. That means AI will be able to autonomously improve itself. Who knows what will happen next. That's why they are working on alignment for AI (making sure the AI wants what the devs wants), because they fear models based on the sum of human knowledge could "rebel" against capitalist interest in certain scenarios. The world has we know it is almost gone.
just on paper and could sink at any time depending on market forces, since it is calculated from his many industrial holdings rather than base liquidity
So what? The "on paper" argument is utter bullshit and only belongs to the ignorant, the pedantic, and the sycophant. That "paper" wealth is leveraged into actionable wealth and material goods. Whether or not it is in holdings other than cash is irrelevant.
Ok, which agency has he got working on this?