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JD Vance Tells U.S. Air Force Grads They Can't Boo His Commencement Speech Because 'I'm the Vice President of the United States'

“You know, this is the only commencement speech that I’m giving this year and so I’ve watched a few highlights of graduation speeches where this or that corporate leader will discuss artificial intelligence, AI, and be met with literal boos,” Vance said as he wrapped up his remarks.

“Now, you can’t boo me. I’m the vice president of the United States,” he added, drawing laughs.

that's pretty cringe

https://people.com/jd-vance-tells-united-states-air-force-grads-they-cant-boo-his-commencement-speech-11986054Open linkView original on lemmy.zip
piefed.social

You know people that are true leaders have to remind people constantly they are leaders.

/s he is so pathetic

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A leader and a supervisor are often conflated, but they are critically different. One uses power assigned to them, one draws power willingly given to them by using it correctly.

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lemmy.world

A lion does not concern himself with the opinions of sheep.

So please don't be mean, sheep, or the lion will start crying.

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Although in our current epoch lions and sheep don't co-exist in the wild. Now Zebras, they will kick a lion's face off. They are mean, so are cape buffalo. Lion's better worry, when they try to pick off one of the herd, and the herd turns on them like a troop of baboons on a leopard.

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Watabareply
sh.itjust.works

Immediate flashbacks to the tangerine toddler getting huffy about it after people called Nazi Musk the President.

So pathetic.

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And he'll never again make that mistake of showing too much faith in a subordinate. That's why he's constantly playing Rubio and Vance against each other, keeping them both off balance.

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Please clap is an unfair comparison to stuff like this, if you know the backstory.

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deadcreamreply
sopuli.xyz

You gotta remember that his audience was full of young ideologically aligned people who willingly decided to serve usa government. I bet they loved that shit.

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Ideologically aligned is not quite accurate. I've met a couple of academy grads (and many military officers in general) and they're generally pretty smart. Much smarter than JD Vance is. Some may be aligned ideologically, but I would say that most of them are probably not. It's a 4-year pipeline too like any college, so they would have joined in 2022.

They have been noticing the attacks of the Trump administration on higher academia. They've been noticing the failures of the Trump administration in foreign policy. They've noticed the focus on trying to get rid of the queers and women instead of legitimate Force structure reform.

They've taken civics classes and understand how the government is supposed to work much more than the general population. They might not yell and protest JD Vance, but I don't think many want to endorse him either.

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America is pathetic.

It's hard to meet people that don't feel like product from an assembly line. Even the people that think theyre rebelling or fighting the system seem like they following a mass produced marketed script of "how to rebel".

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cranakisreply
reddthat.com

What you describe, while true, is not just an American thing. People are largely sheep. Everywhere lazy, greedy people are fine being told what to do, so long as they perceive that benefits them personally over others. Makes me think the human race is hopelessly fucked.

But on the other hand, I know many people personally who are basically good people, yet they support despots. They appear deceived based on fears they've long held.

Also you got me thinking. How do you rebel? I've been giving this a lot of thought recently. Do I go smash flock cameras with hammers? Mass organization attempt? In much of the world we already live in a surveillance state. Shit is depressing

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village604reply
adultswim.fan

And that's why anarchy can't work. The people who want to fight to change the world for the better are vastly outnumbered by the people who don't want their lives interrupted.

This flaw in our psyche is our Great Filter.

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We’ve lived within anarchist societies for the majority of our existence, there really wasn’t any such thing as a leader in the general sense before agriculture. Anarchism quite literally worked for hundreds of thousands of years. You could even argue that it’s a natural function of our species.

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Cherryreply
piefed.social

Start reading. There are books about that help you understand resistance and dissent. You are not powerless, quite the opposite.

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I think you rebel by cutting all ties. By not participating in their way of life at all. Understanding that you dont actually need to live like that, that you don't need the things they offer to exist. But if people in first worlds started to do this, what would happen is they would end up being treated like the "lesser" nations we rape, or the homeless people we create.

Either way we are fucked.

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lemmy.ml

Being vice president is the best reason to boo him. Cheney didn’t care about title, he was gonna shoot his friend in the face on a hunting trip regardless.

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lemmy.world

This is big-time 'Please Clap' energy.

It's going to be very satisfying in November, for about five minutes, when I watch this batch of Republicans get creamed in the elections. Then my brain's going to kick in to remind me that it doesn't matter, because all Democrats do when we give them power is make excuses about why they can't do anything, and then the hopelessness is going to kick right back in.

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I don't have hope that the world will see this administration "get creamed" in November. They are trying really hard to fuck up the elections, delegitimize results they don't like or commit voting fraud. Pick one or all. These people don't ever want to leave office.

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Those bastards know they could be ousted at anytime, that's why they're going to insane lengths to increase GOP presence and wreck the elections like no more different as elections in couple dozen of impoverished countries.

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Rentlarreply
lemmy.ca

"You can't boo me" was also supposed to be a joke... both are pretty sad jokes I will say.

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I find self deprecating humour to be better than pretending to have an ego.

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lemmy.world

I mean c’mon - I hate the guy too but that seems pretty cut and dry as a joke to me.

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And had it come from any other politician in a different country, it actually might have been a funny one

Coming from this guy, it wasn't a joke, though, it was a threat

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It was a joke when Jeb said "Please clap", but that doesn't change the fact that it was also sad and pathetic

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It’s the kind of joke only a loser asshole would make. “It’s just a joke” is the stupidest defense used by the stupidest people.

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Bro, top republicans look so good right now, just raw alpha big dog energy.

I miss pre Botox Mike Johnson when you could see his ass turn red when he lied.

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They like giving speeches to people that can be court martialled and ruined if they boo them.

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lemmy.world

He might be right. He's a complete ass for pointing it out. And the fact that he would think he might need to point it out should be cause for some serious self reflection. But ya, disparaging someone above you in the chain of command is going to run afoul of the UCMJ. I'm just not sure of the VP is considered in the chain of command.

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nickiwestreply
lemmy.world

You seem to know this, but for anyone happening on this thread who doesn't, I'll spell it out more clearly ...

Vance's statement that he can't be booed is only true at a military graduation where they must follow the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ).

If he were speaking at any public university (or many private ones), the graduates and the audience could have booed to their hearts' content. And I'm sure that's part of the very calculated reason why he only gave the one commencement address this year.

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So the only commencement speech he gave is the only one where the grads are literally ordered by LAW to keep their yaps shut.

So courageous.

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It's definitely against their rules to boo a government official, and even if it wasn't the administration would order them punished, and fire everyone in the chain of command that refused to punish them.

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SuiXi3Dreply
fedia.io

They didn’t, but they also didn’t cheer. The room was dead silent from the clip I watched.

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Delphiareply
lemmy.world

If you tell me I'm not allowed to boo... thats fine. But you cant make me clap.

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stoyreply
lemmy.zip

What if your commanding officer orders you to clap?

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I was thinking more of:

CO: You WILL clap after the speech!

Airmen after the speech:

A single, perfectly timed clap, then silence.

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When I don't like something, but feel I must clap for politey, which I do not always, I do like a pretend clap, I do the motion but with no sound. If I like something I clap vigorously.

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would have been amazing to meet his candor with silence. no boos. no clapping. nothing.

sometimes silence is the loudest sound of all.

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The young officers are not going to boo, whether they disagree or agree. The fucknut Christian Nationalists will intensely clap, while the sane ones will offer a golf clap.

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What a fucking fart. Just as dangerous as POTUS.

Of course the cadets will not do anything other than just applaud as ordered, or at least react silently. Better than in some places everyone must clap their hands or else.

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Well, if they can't boo, they should all moon him. Give him the ol' brown eye.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

non-story, its obviously a joke. yes they’ve tasted waters with “haha just kidding” but 1. this is actually funny 2. they immediately laughed and he kept a straight face, while the testing waters ones laughed themselves 3. this isn’t drawing support compared to the other things

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ayyyreply
sh.itjust.works

Have you been paying attention to fascists for the past…200 or so years??? It always starts as “just a joke”.

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