Not just that, but if they're throwing sponsorships and ads all over, it means they have a huge advertising budget. That almost always means their profit margins are unusually high.
Meaning they're a ripoff even if the product isn't a scam.
i feel like advertisement should only be allowed once that you're actually looking for that / a similar product. because otherwise the advertisement is completely irrelevant to you anyways, so why do they show it to you?!?
like if i search for "smartphone charging cable" i can be shown like 50 different brands of smartphone chargers. but if i don't search for it, why would i know about them? i'm not gonna buy a new smartphone charger anytime soon.
But implementing that would require some sort of adware spyware.
What really irritates me is when I search for something that I'm actually looking for, and at the top of the search results is a whole chain of sponsored ads and they're freaking all from amazon. I wish there was a way to block certain sponsors from those ad results.
And then I scroll past those and the first couple returned entries are also ads, but these ads are formatted like the rest of the search results so you don't notice the "ad" banner if you're not careful.
The reason many of them (a charging brand like anker for example) do this is to get name recognition. If you see their name in 200 sponsors, and a year later you are looking for a charger, you see a familiar name in those 50 brands when you want to buy one, and subconsciously you trust it more than the brands you haven't heard about.
Absolutely everything that has a huge, pervasive ad campaign is some kind of scam or just shitty product. Not a single good, helpful product was ever advertised so heavily.
I don't think that it's that people don't think that way, companies know that. It's that the company is hoping that when the customer needs a service the name comes up. It's a play at the human subconscious. How many ads do you watch that you are able to remember you heard of the service from an ad vs just passing discussion. I can only think of NordVPN and a few insurance companies, they rely on that. They hope that when an issue comes up that requires it, that their name pops up without the negative mentality behind it.
I agree though, I go off the mindset that if I am looking for a product and the first thing that comes to mind is "I saw this in an ad" that means there was enough advertisement budget that I could consciously link it to the ad and not the product, which means there is a massive red flag for the product there.
I don't know what you're smoking, but knowing of fum is never going to make me buy fum.
The fact they're pushed all over tells me one incontrovertible thing: Their profit margins are high enough to give them that bloated budget, meaning buying a product that's advertised all over is choosing to get ripped off.
The point is not that you'll see fum and pick it because you recall an ad. The point is that you need any fum-type product, don't really care which, and your hand reaches for fum while you're busy thinking about the stupid thing you said in a pub yesterday, or wondering if it's going to rain.
Don't need fum or anything similar? Congrats! You're not the target group. Doesn't mean ads don't work on you.
Cognitive distortions like present bias, emotional reasoning, temporal distancing, opportunity cost blindness, reinforcement loops, all these are factors in why people behave impulsively when presented with an opportunity. Addressing how each individual justifies them in their habits and behaviors is the foundation of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. The behavior is not limited to the mentally challenged or the rich, it’s the result of being human but lacking insight and understanding on why you do what you do when you do it, what you hope to gain from doing it, weighing the risk/reward, and developing the self-awareness to question your behaviors before you act upon them.
See, if advertising didn't work, that would mean that companies like Google and Meta have their stock price based mostly on hype. And, that can't be true, because, as we all know, the market is always fully rational. Now, excuse me while I go check out how much my NFTs have gone up in value since I last checked in 2021.
That skips the youtube ads, but it will still have the sponsored segments that the uploaders put in their videos unless you install the SponsorBlock script for mpv.
Yes, you can use the --sponsorblock-mark parameter to add chapter marks around the segments and the --sponsorblock-remove parameter to cut the segments out of the video. I would suggest adding them to the config file for yt-dlp so you don't have to add the parameters and all of the categories to the command every time.
Mpv doesn't use the download function of yt-dlp, so those options won't work with mpv. You have to install the script for that.
i think for me it's just that i get angry at the brand if they try to shove it down my throat. like, the arrogance, it feels a lot like violation of consent, if i already made my mind up that i don't like their product, being advertised again feels like something that should make me angry.
I think the problem is that you think that, while a majority of people think little, if at all. Dumb people and kids for example.
There are enough people who just consume media without reflecting for ads to work, or ads would simply disappear. Companies know how to use statistics.
That would make a lot of sense. I was thinking of private Internet access and tunnel bear too but I think I only ever saw those on LTT back when I was watching that channel regularly.
I bought a Henson razor and that has been relatively good, everything else in sponsored segments that I have been tempted by seems to be poorly reviewed elsewher however.
They aren't buying the ads to convince you to buy it anytime soon. They are buying the ads to plant the seed of the link to their brand with whatever the thing is. That way in the future when you have long forgot about the ad and you are looking for bone broth you might buy theirs because it looks familiar even if you don't know why. This is a time tested process that absolutely works.
If you think you are immune to it then you are fooling yourself and are half way to being the perfect little consumer that they want.
To me, I always get the vibe that the incessant advertising means they're spending too much money on marketing and not enough on actually making a decent product. Maybe thats not true in some cases, but it puts me off of buying their product.
And yet again, the never ending confusion over "why the fuck is everyone choosing to see ads?" question comes up.
When I came here to Lemmy I really thought I'd never se any posts about complaining about ads because all you need to never see one is having the tech literacy just slightly above grandma level.
Yet here we are, with weekly posts like this.
And to be clear, I absolutely agree with the comic but it's most if the comments here that's the issue. Why are you people not even firing a single brain cell to decrease the amount of ads you see? They're clearly an annoyance, but they're also INCREDIBLY easy to get rid of.
A problem with uBlock, SponsorBlock, DeArrow, etc., is that it makes viewing sites and videos by greedy assholes bearable, instead of making us boycott the assholes.
I do use uBlock (and SponsorBlock built into a program, along with a site that let's me avoid YouTube's site); but I really should be boycotting some sites and video channels.
Imma be real calling content creators "greedy assholes" for taking sponsors that are the only way to make it financially viable other than patreon while expecting to consume their content for 0 just sounds like peak entitlement
Unless you do actually support creators directly in which case go ahead. And I do in fact recommend just not watching people that you judge to actually be greedy assholes, never once regretted that.
I'm torn there. Im from the old internet where we all just fucked about and had fun. I dont think any of the end-users asked them to quit their jobs and invest their money into editing equipment.
Obviously they need paid for their work, but why is it work? What happened here?
Consider that there are instances where it's not practical to remove ads. I could get a new podcasts app with Sponsorblock integrated, but I already have the app I like all set up and I'm fine with skipping them manually. Some may filter through but so what.
Same with YT videos with Sponsorblock where you're early and you're the one doing people the favor. You have to listen at least part of the ad to mark the time block.
Or sometimes Twitch breaks uBO and you don't realize until you're served an ad and you have to wait for the devs to fix it. There's no simple way of getting around it if you enjoy certain streamers.
It's not that we don't try, but not everyone is capable or interested in insulating their entertainment. There are many factors at play.
80% of the podcasts I have, I haven't listened to because I listen to them at night and the ads being 50% louder than the podcast basically make them annoying jumpscares.
And I haven't found anything that blocks ads on podcasts
Try Metrolist, it's mainly thought for music but you can also ear podcasts and it's totally ad-free, it uses YT music as source and it's totally open source too!
No, they don't, i think, i never used it for podcasts but you can just do a feature request on github or discors and they may implement it sooner or later
Just updating here for others - it does seem they have sponsorblock as well! And not only that but they also have audio normalization which is great for podcasts as well
I think people like to see marketing as an art when in reality it is more of a science. Ads are engineered to be cost effective, and the design simply follows from that incentive. By taking up any of your attention, even if it's in the background, even if it's a small patch on an athlete's uniform, it will help the product sell. If it didn't, advertisers wouldn't have put it there.
They have more data than you, they are smarter than you, and all they care about is selling their product. You are a tool to boost profit, even if you don't directly give them money, your attention is all they need.
Like, this comic is actually a good example of how an anti-consumption response to an ad can actually help sales. If she never knew about Dragon Marrow, she wouldn't be opposed to it, but you will inevitably just give Dragon Marrow free marketing every time you talk negatively about them. You may drive a majority of people that hear you complain away from it, but maybe one or two of your friends decide to try it anyways, people who would not have heard of it until you complained.
Attention is the goal, not a specific emotional response. You can't outsmart an ad by watching it.
I remember on Nintendo Switch was some kirby game. I had been moderately excited for the game. So when it came out I tried the demo. I'm glad I did. Now, Kirby games have always been known to be easy. Maybe too easy. But this game took it too far. It gives you 3 AI friends, or real friends can control those characters with multiplayer.
I played the first level, which is the whole demo, and it was fine. So then I tried playing the demo again, to see if I think it would have been better if I played with real people. I set the controller down, and the game played itself. I'm not even touching the controller, and I beat the demo.
I decided not to buy the game, because it plays itself.
I get the sentiment and I feel the same. But let's not pretend that ads won't work on us. For example what's the first VPN provider that comes to your mind? Even bad press is good press in a way
The first VPN provider that comes to mind (for an average Joe) is probably the one you should avoid though lol. Advertising works on many people, but the thought process that the more ads you see from a single company, the worse their products are holds true for many situations.
Best example is that shitty earbuds company that I'm sure you all remember seeing ads for in the past, still see them occasionally but not as much. Completely unrelated but I like cryptostorm for vpn provider, they are very against kyc and you can get access to their servers without a single piece of identifying information.
NORD VPN!!!! But if I’m looking for a product or service I usually do a quick search and find the best solution that fits my needs and in the case of a VPN is reasonably secure from state sponsored surveillance.
Which is why after millions spent on advertising by Nord VPN I picked Proton.
I can't find the study you're talking about, but I see lots of blog posts from marketing shitheads like the above that feel they have a moral obligation to be inclusive and make advertisements specifically tailored to NDs. It is "unethical", apparently. Strange fucking ethics when the whole goal of advertising is to manipulate people into buying shit they don't need or want.
Yk what would be inclusive? Not making ads! Strange right? If ya don't shove me a totally unreleated content in my face, i will get distracted less! Damn, innovative right?
I gave into this recently, even though I should know better.
I saw many ads for Troll Gummy Pops, a frozen version of their candy, which I think is alright. And I’d just recently had some subpar fruit popsicles that were just OK, but I thought why not, I’ll try something new.
I saw the box at WinCo and it was plastered with ads about something something Xbox, something something Forza. Whatever, so it’s not the generic WinCo brand or the other boring brands I typically get.
Worst case scenario I don’t like it, best case scenario I have a new treat to treat myself to every now and again.
No, the worst case scenario is I’m so off-put by the texture of a gummy popsicle that the texture and experience—paired with the over-the-top sugar, causes me to throw up.
Gamer Sups. I only vaguely know what they are (some sort of food?), but the number of ads I see for it make me think I don't want to know any more about it.
Only sponsor I ever bought anything from was Henson for a safety razor. Got one before they made more of a sponsor push. Honestly no regrets so far, it's a lot better than the cheap safety razor I had before.
Henson safety razor and ray-con headphones are both actual good products I’ve bought from video sponsors. If it’s a service It always seems to not be worth it. Just look back at honey, lol.
I had just seen a Henson ad on Internet Today when I dropped the safety razor I already had a few inches onto my laminate counter and it just broke right at the threads. Cheap pot metal handle, wtf. i actually also found that the Henson shaver turned out to really be much nicer. I don’t cut my face the fuck up after changing in a new blade like I did with the one that broke.
My secret to not cutting myself shaving is to just never shave. Trim it back to pre homeless looking levels and I'm good, unless I'm going to court. I'll shave for court if I'm the one in trouble.
Evidently, it's not enough when many people try to block or ignore ads.
What would stop them would be a sufficiently large minority that really takes note of the ads they see and actively avoids the products. Like, even when it is the best for a given situation, buy the second best instead.
Only that would take away from the people they still do reach.
In theory, even a minority (20%?) could make ads harmful for the advertiser.
They know you hate the brands that advertise everywhere. The thing is: ads aren't only for the brand that's being advertised. They're for the entire product category.
The advertised brand and 17 others are all subsidiaries of the same company.
Sick of Milwaukee drill ads, so you stick it to them and buy the cheaper Ryobi or Rigid? They're all the same company.
Eyewear? Luxoticca is a monopoly that owns almost every optometrist's office and just about every company making eyewear, so all the competing brands when you're buying glasses are an illusion. RayBan, Oakley, and all the others are all the same company wearing different nametags. Budget brands, premium brands - everything.
My favorite weird one is Johnson Outdoors. If you do outdoor adventuring, they're probably part of your life.
Want to go scuba diving? They own ScubaPro, Sealife, Uwatec, and Subgear, and manufacture stuff for other brands like Cressi and Halcyon.
Fishing? They own Minn Kota, Hummingbird, Ocean Kayak, and Old Town Canoes, and Cannon.
Camping? They own Eureka (major tent manufacturer) and JetBoil.
I teach underwater photography for a local university through a dive shop and used to manage the camping, fishing, and marine departments at a major outdoors chain. One of their reps said I might have been the only person in the country who sold all their products.
As someone that has experience in the eyewear business; Luxotica owns target optical, Pearle Vision, LensCrafters, Sunglass Hut, Oliver Peoples, Glasses.com, EyeBuyDirect, Rayban, and oakley. VSP, which is a vision insurance company, now owns visionworks and Eyemart Express. (Fun fact, HVHC used to own Davis Vision, a vision insurance company, and lauched visionworks to launder insurance payments back into company coffers at the expense of private providers in the Davis Vision network. HVHC sold Davis Vision, and then a few years later sold visionworks.)
If you want eyecare that isn't connected to a large conglomerate, find a small, private/local provider. Find out which ophthalmologists are in network with your medical insurance. The glaucoma screening and dilation/fundus photos can be billed to your medical insurance and you can pay out-of pocket for the refraction. The refraction is the part of the eye exam that gives you the eyeglass prescription. Everything else checks on the medical health of your eye, which is why it's billable to the medical coverage.
For anyone looking for cheap glasses, brick and mortar retailers like walmart, sams club, BJs, have the least mark up on frames. You can probably find cheap frames online too. If you find and buy your own frames, you can bring them to your retailer/eye DR to have them make the lenses for the frame. The least expensive types of lenses are standard plastic, followed by polycarbonate. If you have simple correction needs, and your DR is telling you that hi-index lenses, blue-blocker, anti-glare, or progressive lenses are medically necessary, your provider is straight up lying to you to sell you more shit.
Unironically, this is why I unsubbed from NordVPN. I decided there must be some issues with it that I wasn't aware of. Then a few years later I learned there was a major data breach the year before I signed up, but it never made it into my news.
The exception to this is if I already bought the product and like it (like with my new pants). Then, I'll keep buying the product but still be annoyed by the ads. I'm not spending the effort to find ad-free pants when it was such a pain to find acceptable pants in the first place. I do wish they'd stop trying to sell to me, though. I already own 5 pairs!
(LPT: scrub pants can look office professional and have real pockets, even if you wear femme cuts.)
No, that's just a part of your brain that's designed to notice the difference between a tiger in the grass and the wind blowing it, and you are ruled by that animalistic impulse in you because you have yet to perceive n undo the karmic fetters that bind one to the existence-illusion complex.
In other words, you're noticing that [You] have been targeted. This means two things:
A) There is someone/business/alien egregoric complex/God/FBI that has predicted you, and
B) You are completely predictable.
Congratulations archetype number 26, that's who YOU are, that identity framework that entraps you in the police state as man learned to play against man quite long ago, as we engineered our culture in the occident to control those people who cannot think for themselves whilst simultaneously guiding those waking up to the matrix into the occult, which is a word that just means "hidden."
You grow in Eden until you learn the truth of good and evil, and that they is great complexity in the grey areas of the world, and what is more good than just good is skillful good and evil, to mean "cop," cuz you live in a police state and the game being played is being playing against the younger ones, who know not that God is a unified field of consciousness that arose from the supersymmetry of the ever-present, eternal emptiness to then fold in and on Itself across eleven dimensions to form a topological matrix that acts as a monadic nodal communication system, which is really super self-evident, but I don't know a dang thing; no pill all the way, as I realized when I was given that ancient test that it was a trick question to determine whether I trusted authority or not, so I followed God in Faith and I gained Knowledge that way, and this is the idea of the feather in Super Mario World, where you oscillate between up n down to go ever up.
The only thing I bought after being advertised on a podcast was a Cleverhood jacket/poncho thing, and I have zero regrets, it's a great rain jacket. But I had seen other people use them so it wasn't a complete ad-based purchase.
I hope you all downvote the fuck out of me, but these posts are fucking awful. Comic strips are supposed to be funny. What the fuck even is this? What are you promoting? Online ads=stupid? Are you 14?
"Why is their product so bad that they need to advertise it so hard"
Not just that, but if they're throwing sponsorships and ads all over, it means they have a huge advertising budget. That almost always means their profit margins are unusually high.
Meaning they're a ripoff even if the product isn't a scam.
Or it means they just got a bunch of VC money and are looking to chain you up before exploiting the shit out of you.
Or at the very most, they have enough money, they don't need any of mine.
yeah exactly xD
i feel like advertisement should only be allowed once that you're actually looking for that / a similar product. because otherwise the advertisement is completely irrelevant to you anyways, so why do they show it to you?!?
like if i search for "smartphone charging cable" i can be shown like 50 different brands of smartphone chargers. but if i don't search for it, why would i know about them? i'm not gonna buy a new smartphone charger anytime soon.
But implementing that would require some sort of
adwarespyware.What really irritates me is when I search for something that I'm actually looking for, and at the top of the search results is a whole chain of sponsored ads and they're freaking all from amazon. I wish there was a way to block certain sponsors from those ad results.
And then I scroll past those and the first couple returned entries are also ads, but these ads are formatted like the rest of the search results so you don't notice the "ad" banner if you're not careful.
The reason many of them (a charging brand like anker for example) do this is to get name recognition. If you see their name in 200 sponsors, and a year later you are looking for a charger, you see a familiar name in those 50 brands when you want to buy one, and subconsciously you trust it more than the brands you haven't heard about.
Yep.
Absolutely everything that has a huge, pervasive ad campaign is some kind of scam or just shitty product. Not a single good, helpful product was ever advertised so heavily.
Or "Their product must be massively overpriced to pay for all this advertising"
Not enough people think this way.
I don't think that it's that people don't think that way, companies know that. It's that the company is hoping that when the customer needs a service the name comes up. It's a play at the human subconscious. How many ads do you watch that you are able to remember you heard of the service from an ad vs just passing discussion. I can only think of NordVPN and a few insurance companies, they rely on that. They hope that when an issue comes up that requires it, that their name pops up without the negative mentality behind it.
I agree though, I go off the mindset that if I am looking for a product and the first thing that comes to mind is "I saw this in an ad" that means there was enough advertisement budget that I could consciously link it to the ad and not the product, which means there is a massive red flag for the product there.
Remove "this way" and you have the entirety of human issues right now. Way too many idiots running around and in power.
Not enough people know that thinking this way does not protect you. It just gives you that pleasant hit of smugness.
I don't know what you're smoking, but knowing of fum is never going to make me buy fum.
The fact they're pushed all over tells me one incontrovertible thing: Their profit margins are high enough to give them that bloated budget, meaning buying a product that's advertised all over is choosing to get ripped off.
The point is not that you'll see fum and pick it because you recall an ad. The point is that you need any fum-type product, don't really care which, and your hand reaches for fum while you're busy thinking about the stupid thing you said in a pub yesterday, or wondering if it's going to rain.
Don't need fum or anything similar? Congrats! You're not the target group. Doesn't mean ads don't work on you.
Weird how you assume people blindly grab products without thinking.
That is the behavior of morons and rich people (I repeat myself) that don't need to care about what they throw money at.
Cognitive distortions like present bias, emotional reasoning, temporal distancing, opportunity cost blindness, reinforcement loops, all these are factors in why people behave impulsively when presented with an opportunity. Addressing how each individual justifies them in their habits and behaviors is the foundation of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. The behavior is not limited to the mentally challenged or the rich, it’s the result of being human but lacking insight and understanding on why you do what you do when you do it, what you hope to gain from doing it, weighing the risk/reward, and developing the self-awareness to question your behaviors before you act upon them.
No, no, trust me, it's a mind control ray!
See, if advertising didn't work, that would mean that companies like Google and Meta have their stock price based mostly on hype. And, that can't be true, because, as we all know, the market is always fully rational. Now, excuse me while I go check out how much my NFTs have gone up in value since I last checked in 2021.
SponsorBlock will skip most of the sponsored segments in youtube videos. It's pretty much required if you want to watch youtube now.
use
mpv https://youtube.com/watch?v=video_idyou need
yt-dlpfor it and some obscure config file maybe. just search for it.That skips the youtube ads, but it will still have the sponsored segments that the uploaders put in their videos unless you install the SponsorBlock script for mpv.
someone made a sponsorblock script for mpv https://github.com/po5/mpv_sponsorblock
I think you can get yt-dlp to integrate Sponsorblock as well but I've never tried setting it up myself
Yes, you can use the --sponsorblock-mark parameter to add chapter marks around the segments and the --sponsorblock-remove parameter to cut the segments out of the video. I would suggest adding them to the config file for yt-dlp so you don't have to add the parameters and all of the categories to the command every time.
Mpv doesn't use the download function of yt-dlp, so those options won't work with mpv. You have to install the script for that.
oh interesting! i've just never come across a sponsored segment i guess, or i skip them so subconsciously that i don't even notice them.
Your OP mentions sponsors, were you thinking advertisers?
Fully valid mentality.
Nothing gets me less interested in spending money on a brand than having it constantly advertised to me.
I dunno, maybe I got some gene that inverses the reaction I'm supposed to have, because repeated advertising supposedly works really well.
i think for me it's just that i get angry at the brand if they try to shove it down my throat. like, the arrogance, it feels a lot like violation of consent, if i already made my mind up that i don't like their product, being advertised again feels like something that should make me angry.
I think the problem is that you think that, while a majority of people think little, if at all. Dumb people and kids for example.
There are enough people who just consume media without reflecting for ads to work, or ads would simply disappear. Companies know how to use statistics.
Same. I think all companies that sponsor channels are crap. No exceptions. Especially all VPNs and Proton.
Ugh. VPNs. They sell you "privacy" via a product that captures all your data and routes it through their network. Then they say "trust us".
It's more transferring who knows. A "nice browsing history, be a shame if someone found out about it" sort of situation.
The only VPN I’ve ever seen ads for is Nord VPN.
I feel like vpns go in cycles, Nord is the one that's popular now but there's a couple others I've seen.
Nord and Surfshark are owned by the same company. I imagine those two at least take turns in these cycles
That would make a lot of sense. I was thinking of private Internet access and tunnel bear too but I think I only ever saw those on LTT back when I was watching that channel regularly.
I bought a Henson razor and that has been relatively good, everything else in sponsored segments that I have been tempted by seems to be poorly reviewed elsewher however.
Lol sponsor block extension, faq all your native ads and interaction reminders
Don't forget the shitty preview hooks because apparently the average attention span is 5 seconds nowadays.
I find those so weird because when I encounter them the moment either within the first minute or well into the video and kinda its own isolated moment
As if TV shows didn't have that
They aren't buying the ads to convince you to buy it anytime soon. They are buying the ads to plant the seed of the link to their brand with whatever the thing is. That way in the future when you have long forgot about the ad and you are looking for bone broth you might buy theirs because it looks familiar even if you don't know why. This is a time tested process that absolutely works.
If you think you are immune to it then you are fooling yourself and are half way to being the perfect little consumer that they want.
To me, I always get the vibe that the incessant advertising means they're spending too much money on marketing and not enough on actually making a decent product. Maybe thats not true in some cases, but it puts me off of buying their product.
"Wtf. How did this get past sponsorblock?"
And yet again, the never ending confusion over "why the fuck is everyone choosing to see ads?" question comes up. When I came here to Lemmy I really thought I'd never se any posts about complaining about ads because all you need to never see one is having the tech literacy just slightly above grandma level. Yet here we are, with weekly posts like this.
And to be clear, I absolutely agree with the comic but it's most if the comments here that's the issue. Why are you people not even firing a single brain cell to decrease the amount of ads you see? They're clearly an annoyance, but they're also INCREDIBLY easy to get rid of.
A problem with uBlock, SponsorBlock, DeArrow, etc., is that it makes viewing sites and videos by greedy assholes bearable, instead of making us boycott the assholes.
I do use uBlock (and SponsorBlock built into a program, along with a site that let's me avoid YouTube's site); but I really should be boycotting some sites and video channels.
Imma be real calling content creators "greedy assholes" for taking sponsors that are the only way to make it financially viable other than patreon while expecting to consume their content for 0 just sounds like peak entitlement
Unless you do actually support creators directly in which case go ahead. And I do in fact recommend just not watching people that you judge to actually be greedy assholes, never once regretted that.
I'm torn there. Im from the old internet where we all just fucked about and had fun. I dont think any of the end-users asked them to quit their jobs and invest their money into editing equipment.
Obviously they need paid for their work, but why is it work? What happened here?
Consider that there are instances where it's not practical to remove ads. I could get a new podcasts app with Sponsorblock integrated, but I already have the app I like all set up and I'm fine with skipping them manually. Some may filter through but so what.
Same with YT videos with Sponsorblock where you're early and you're the one doing people the favor. You have to listen at least part of the ad to mark the time block.
Or sometimes Twitch breaks uBO and you don't realize until you're served an ad and you have to wait for the devs to fix it. There's no simple way of getting around it if you enjoy certain streamers.
It's not that we don't try, but not everyone is capable or interested in insulating their entertainment. There are many factors at play.
Wait there's a podcast app that blocks ads?
where?
80% of the podcasts I have, I haven't listened to because I listen to them at night and the ads being 50% louder than the podcast basically make them annoying jumpscares.
And I haven't found anything that blocks ads on podcasts
Try Metrolist, it's mainly thought for music but you can also ear podcasts and it's totally ad-free, it uses YT music as source and it's totally open source too!
Nice - I see they have a build specifically for obtanium too!
Do they do a sponsorblock thing basically too? I'm not sure how many of my podcasts are on YouTube since I use RSS 😅
No, they don't, i think, i never used it for podcasts but you can just do a feature request on github or discors and they may implement it sooner or later
Just updating here for others - it does seem they have sponsorblock as well! And not only that but they also have audio normalization which is great for podcasts as well
Thanks @Axolotl_cpp !
Woah, i didn't knew they had sponsorblock too! Great
It’s not just ads. Every video on YouTube is sponsored in the video itself. You can skip the sponsor spots usually but they mention it multiple times.
You’re right though, everyone should block advertising and tracking at the router level.
I think people like to see marketing as an art when in reality it is more of a science. Ads are engineered to be cost effective, and the design simply follows from that incentive. By taking up any of your attention, even if it's in the background, even if it's a small patch on an athlete's uniform, it will help the product sell. If it didn't, advertisers wouldn't have put it there.
They have more data than you, they are smarter than you, and all they care about is selling their product. You are a tool to boost profit, even if you don't directly give them money, your attention is all they need.
Like, this comic is actually a good example of how an anti-consumption response to an ad can actually help sales. If she never knew about Dragon Marrow, she wouldn't be opposed to it, but you will inevitably just give Dragon Marrow free marketing every time you talk negatively about them. You may drive a majority of people that hear you complain away from it, but maybe one or two of your friends decide to try it anyways, people who would not have heard of it until you complained.
Attention is the goal, not a specific emotional response. You can't outsmart an ad by watching it.
100% of the time. Nothing as big a turnoff as over saturation. The neediness…yuck.
RAID: Shadow Legends
Hey guys, I just want to tell you I've been having a "blast" playing RAID SHADOW LEGENDS! The game that plays itself when you're not even there!
I remember on Nintendo Switch was some kirby game. I had been moderately excited for the game. So when it came out I tried the demo. I'm glad I did. Now, Kirby games have always been known to be easy. Maybe too easy. But this game took it too far. It gives you 3 AI friends, or real friends can control those characters with multiplayer.
I played the first level, which is the whole demo, and it was fine. So then I tried playing the demo again, to see if I think it would have been better if I played with real people. I set the controller down, and the game played itself. I'm not even touching the controller, and I beat the demo.
I decided not to buy the game, because it plays itself.
Hey! If anything is going to be playing itself in my house it's going to be me.
Jokes on them, I stay away from all products that advertise to me unless I need said product and go searching for it.
Dragon Marrow is the hip new bone broth, but with added taurine, caffeine, and electrolytes for that perfect Energy Stew
Brought to you by GAmEr SOuPz!
I get the sentiment and I feel the same. But let's not pretend that ads won't work on us. For example what's the first VPN provider that comes to your mind? Even bad press is good press in a way
Mullvad
Great company, but no peer-to-peer, right? Automatic disqualification, imo for a general use vpn
The first VPN provider that comes to mind (for an average Joe) is probably the one you should avoid though lol. Advertising works on many people, but the thought process that the more ads you see from a single company, the worse their products are holds true for many situations.
Best example is that shitty earbuds company that I'm sure you all remember seeing ads for in the past, still see them occasionally but not as much. Completely unrelated but I like cryptostorm for vpn provider, they are very against kyc and you can get access to their servers without a single piece of identifying information.
Yeah I didn't disagree with that
NORD VPN!!!! But if I’m looking for a product or service I usually do a quick search and find the best solution that fits my needs and in the case of a VPN is reasonably secure from state sponsored surveillance.
Which is why after millions spent on advertising by Nord VPN I picked Proton.
Is this a neurodivergence thing?
I have no source, but I swear I found some study that negatively correlates neurodivergence with advertising effectiveness.
https://neurolaunch.com/adhd-ads/
I can't find the study you're talking about, but I see lots of blog posts from marketing shitheads like the above that feel they have a moral obligation to be inclusive and make advertisements specifically tailored to NDs. It is "unethical", apparently. Strange fucking ethics when the whole goal of advertising is to manipulate people into buying shit they don't need or want.
Yk what would be inclusive? Not making ads! Strange right? If ya don't shove me a totally unreleated content in my face, i will get distracted less! Damn, innovative right?
Fuck marketing shitheads
I gave into this recently, even though I should know better.
I saw many ads for Troll Gummy Pops, a frozen version of their candy, which I think is alright. And I’d just recently had some subpar fruit popsicles that were just OK, but I thought why not, I’ll try something new.
I saw the box at WinCo and it was plastered with ads about something something Xbox, something something Forza. Whatever, so it’s not the generic WinCo brand or the other boring brands I typically get.
Worst case scenario I don’t like it, best case scenario I have a new treat to treat myself to every now and again.
No, the worst case scenario is I’m so off-put by the texture of a gummy popsicle that the texture and experience—paired with the over-the-top sugar, causes me to throw up.
Never again.
We bought the one collaborating with World of Warcraft because the villain of this expansion was plastered all over it.
Which was hilarious to all all us transfemme folk. We call it the gockcicle.
More Dragon Marrow for me fool
Gamer Sups. I only vaguely know what they are (some sort of food?), but the number of ads I see for it make me think I don't want to know any more about it.
Its powdered energy drink powder and a few other related products.
I personally rather like it then again I am addicted ti caffeine
Indeed. Put the shady gamer product in your body.
Only sponsor I ever bought anything from was Henson for a safety razor. Got one before they made more of a sponsor push. Honestly no regrets so far, it's a lot better than the cheap safety razor I had before.
I'm yet to find a razor that doesn't turn me into Charlie Kirk every morning.
Henson safety razor and ray-con headphones are both actual good products I’ve bought from video sponsors. If it’s a service It always seems to not be worth it. Just look back at honey, lol.
I had just seen a Henson ad on Internet Today when I dropped the safety razor I already had a few inches onto my laminate counter and it just broke right at the threads. Cheap pot metal handle, wtf. i actually also found that the Henson shaver turned out to really be much nicer. I don’t cut my face the fuck up after changing in a new blade like I did with the one that broke.
Yeah. Props to the very careful shavers among us, but I rush it a lot and don't cut myself with the henson.
My secret to not cutting myself shaving is to just never shave. Trim it back to pre homeless looking levels and I'm good, unless I'm going to court. I'll shave for court if I'm the one in trouble.
Methinks the brand doth protest too much
I used really like ads. They were creative and sometimes I didn't know the products. Now it's just unnecessary.
9/11 blew up all our advertising talent
If it were any good, I'll hear about it from something that wasn't an ad block or sponsored message.
Like an organic comment on the internet? Don't worry, they've captured that avenue as well
Evidently, it's not enough when many people try to block or ignore ads.
What would stop them would be a sufficiently large minority that really takes note of the ads they see and actively avoids the products. Like, even when it is the best for a given situation, buy the second best instead.
Only that would take away from the people they still do reach.
In theory, even a minority (20%?) could make ads harmful for the advertiser.
They know you hate the brands that advertise everywhere. The thing is: ads aren't only for the brand that's being advertised. They're for the entire product category.
The advertised brand and 17 others are all subsidiaries of the same company.
Sick of Milwaukee drill ads, so you stick it to them and buy the cheaper Ryobi or Rigid? They're all the same company.
Eyewear? Luxoticca is a monopoly that owns almost every optometrist's office and just about every company making eyewear, so all the competing brands when you're buying glasses are an illusion. RayBan, Oakley, and all the others are all the same company wearing different nametags. Budget brands, premium brands - everything.
My favorite weird one is Johnson Outdoors. If you do outdoor adventuring, they're probably part of your life.
Want to go scuba diving? They own ScubaPro, Sealife, Uwatec, and Subgear, and manufacture stuff for other brands like Cressi and Halcyon.
Fishing? They own Minn Kota, Hummingbird, Ocean Kayak, and Old Town Canoes, and Cannon.
Camping? They own Eureka (major tent manufacturer) and JetBoil.
I teach underwater photography for a local university through a dive shop and used to manage the camping, fishing, and marine departments at a major outdoors chain. One of their reps said I might have been the only person in the country who sold all their products.
As someone that has experience in the eyewear business; Luxotica owns target optical, Pearle Vision, LensCrafters, Sunglass Hut, Oliver Peoples, Glasses.com, EyeBuyDirect, Rayban, and oakley. VSP, which is a vision insurance company, now owns visionworks and Eyemart Express. (Fun fact, HVHC used to own Davis Vision, a vision insurance company, and lauched visionworks to launder insurance payments back into company coffers at the expense of private providers in the Davis Vision network. HVHC sold Davis Vision, and then a few years later sold visionworks.)
If you want eyecare that isn't connected to a large conglomerate, find a small, private/local provider. Find out which ophthalmologists are in network with your medical insurance. The glaucoma screening and dilation/fundus photos can be billed to your medical insurance and you can pay out-of pocket for the refraction. The refraction is the part of the eye exam that gives you the eyeglass prescription. Everything else checks on the medical health of your eye, which is why it's billable to the medical coverage.
For anyone looking for cheap glasses, brick and mortar retailers like walmart, sams club, BJs, have the least mark up on frames. You can probably find cheap frames online too. If you find and buy your own frames, you can bring them to your retailer/eye DR to have them make the lenses for the frame. The least expensive types of lenses are standard plastic, followed by polycarbonate. If you have simple correction needs, and your DR is telling you that hi-index lenses, blue-blocker, anti-glare, or progressive lenses are medically necessary, your provider is straight up lying to you to sell you more shit.
Unironically, this is why I unsubbed from NordVPN. I decided there must be some issues with it that I wasn't aware of. Then a few years later I learned there was a major data breach the year before I signed up, but it never made it into my news.
The exception to this is if I already bought the product and like it (like with my new pants). Then, I'll keep buying the product but still be annoyed by the ads. I'm not spending the effort to find ad-free pants when it was such a pain to find acceptable pants in the first place. I do wish they'd stop trying to sell to me, though. I already own 5 pairs!
(LPT: scrub pants can look office professional and have real pockets, even if you wear femme cuts.)
FR.
No, that's just a part of your brain that's designed to notice the difference between a tiger in the grass and the wind blowing it, and you are ruled by that animalistic impulse in you because you have yet to perceive n undo the karmic fetters that bind one to the existence-illusion complex.
In other words, you're noticing that [You] have been targeted. This means two things:
A) There is someone/business/alien egregoric complex/God/FBI that has predicted you, and
B) You are completely predictable.
Congratulations archetype number 26, that's who YOU are, that identity framework that entraps you in the police state as man learned to play against man quite long ago, as we engineered our culture in the occident to control those people who cannot think for themselves whilst simultaneously guiding those waking up to the matrix into the occult, which is a word that just means "hidden."
You grow in Eden until you learn the truth of good and evil, and that they is great complexity in the grey areas of the world, and what is more good than just good is skillful good and evil, to mean "cop," cuz you live in a police state and the game being played is being playing against the younger ones, who know not that God is a unified field of consciousness that arose from the supersymmetry of the ever-present, eternal emptiness to then fold in and on Itself across eleven dimensions to form a topological matrix that acts as a monadic nodal communication system, which is really super self-evident, but I don't know a dang thing; no pill all the way, as I realized when I was given that ancient test that it was a trick question to determine whether I trusted authority or not, so I followed God in Faith and I gained Knowledge that way, and this is the idea of the feather in Super Mario World, where you oscillate between up n down to go ever up.
If you spend a lot of money on advertising there necessary less money to spend on product quality 🤙
The only thing I bought after being advertised on a podcast was a Cleverhood jacket/poncho thing, and I have zero regrets, it's a great rain jacket. But I had seen other people use them so it wasn't a complete ad-based purchase.
nooo format hurt my poor old eyes. turn it back to quadrant box plzzzzzzz.
Ok
I've never brought anything advertised in a YouTube ad, I just assume it's not that great
I hope you all downvote the fuck out of me, but these posts are fucking awful. Comic strips are supposed to be funny. What the fuck even is this? What are you promoting? Online ads=stupid? Are you 14?