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The True Meaning of Easter

ALT Text: Scene is WAITROSE. Behind it is a staff member, whose name we will soon learn is BECKY. She is dealing with a customer, for now out of shot, while talking to her manager on the phone.

BECKY [on phone]: Yeah, hiya...

2 BECKY: Yes I have a customer here who wants to complain about the Easter eggs.

3 BECKY [putting hand over receiver while addressing the customer stood at the desk in front of her]: Sorry what was your name again?

4 [Pull back to show the customer is a very tall, green-skinned, PAGAN GODDESS, festooned with flowers. Stood next to her is her son, a normal human teenager in a hoodie, who looks mortified by his mum.]

PAGAN GODDESS: Eostre the Pagan Goddess of Fertility

5 BECKY Sorry - Your name is Easter…?

PAGAN GODDESS: Eostre.

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[Vicky pauses, trying to take this in].

VICKY: Your name is Easter and you want to complain about the Easter eggs.

7 PAGAN GODDESS: Sorry love, what’s your name?

BECKY: Becky

PAGAN GODDESS: Well, Vicky -

8 PAGAN GODDESS: If it was you who’d shagged the solar god of the Equinox to give birth to an actual living god - my son Darren here -

TEENAGE BOY: Muuum…

9 PAGAN GODDESS: ….only to have all your efforts totally forgotten by history, you’d have a complaint too!

10 PAGAN GODDESS: Aisle four is full of products, with no hint of the true meaning of the festival!

11 BECKY: You mean… Jesus…?

PAGAN GODDESS: I mean shagging, Vicky.

12 PAGAN GODDESS: Is it too much to see just a little bit of pre-Christian sex in Aisle 4?

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lemmy.nz

Slightly differs from the actual comic, though.

"Give birth to Spring itself" and "hang on, Spring" vs "give birth to an actual living god - my son Darren here"

And ends with TEENAGE BOY: MUUUUM

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Echreply
lemmy.ca

Methinks it was generated. Shame.

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ccunningreply
lemmy.world

I got the comic and the Alt Text from this mastodon post which specifically says the author does the alt text himself. I couldn’t find evidence of that though I didn’t look tooooo hard…

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Echreply
lemmy.ca

Hmmm, maybe they were going off an earlier script *shrug*

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lemmy.world

It also says he's a "normal human teenager," which he clearly is not.

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slrpnk.net

What better way to symbolize shagging in a kid-friendly way than an egg hunt? Look at all those little sperms go, trying to find the egg as quickly as possible after all being released at the same time?

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infosec.pub

It's a nice idea, but eggs were associated with the Christian Easter (Pascha in Latin, which is roughly the name for Easter in most countries that celebrate it), probably as a custom from Persia going through to what's now Eastern Orthodoxy and from there to Catholics/Protestants as a way to celebrate the end of Lent (eggs being prohibited during that time). It's still possible it was also Pagan and forgotten, decorating eggs is at least 60k years old, but its association with Easter was only (re-?) initiated through Christianity.

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They don't care. They need their anti-intellectualism as badly as fundamentalist Christians.

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The thousands of years old tradition from non-Abrahamic Persia, (in fact a proto-IE region with shared religious rites with Slavic, Celtic and Germanic Europe), predating not only the splits of Christianity into Eastern Orthodox and Other, but of Christianity actually existing, doesn't show it was a Pagan tradition?

What else do you call non-Abrahamic religious rites?

(And apparently new evidence has since backed up Bede's account of Pagan Oestra in the British Isles, too.)

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sh.itjust.works

I love the passive-aggressive move of Ēostre intentionally getting Becky's name wrong in return

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Think of all of the millions that Christians butchered over this... then, they destroyed every single trace of any other religion, erasing centuries of cultural history.

Today, Catholics alone own over 170 million acres of land, much of it stolen from those same people, and they enjoy tax-free status all over the world. Horrifying.

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That's not even a checkout line, so the man behind Spring is just there to watch the drama.

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yeehawreply
lemmy.ca

🤣.

This will sound insensitive but I look at the Bible like I look at Harry Potter or Lord of the rings.

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addiksreply
feddit.org

Be careful saying things like that, you might summon the wrath of the zealots upon yourself. Lord of the Rings fans are not to be messed with.

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yeehawreply
lemmy.ca

That's fair. I mean lord of the rings is a fictional novel, is all I was getting at.

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just way more thought put into character development and continuity and overall a much better read

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Tehhundreply
lemmy.world

The Bible is more like of you took HP, LotR, and 20 other series and mashed them together.

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the bible has multiple books of fanfic

The mormon dlc is all fan service

Its all fictive.

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I remember on old email lists you used to get "digests" of a day's worth of emails all in one. That's what the Bible is.

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infosec.pub

There's some evidence Eostre (or Ostara, Austra, definitely Aušrinė in Lithuania) was worshipped, but the evidence is scant and mostly based on linguistic reconstruction by Grimm in the 19th century. There is evidence of votive offerings to the "Austriahenae" (a collection of matron goddesses) discovered in 1958, but little else.

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There have been more discoveries since Grimm boys, and despite earlier scepticism scholars are now mostly accepting that there was an Eostre diety worshipped in Europe around the Spring Equinox.

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New findings and archeo-lingustics have supported Grimms and Bede, so the existence (culturally) and worship of Oestra (or however your 1000BC Celto-Germanic language spelt it) is now generally accepted by scholars (and anyone who isn't pushing an anti-intellectual, and often antisemitic, "war on Christianity" agenda).

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No, people are just anti Christianity circle jerking because it's a religious holiday

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aussie.zone

Without checking, I think it's only called Easter in the UK, everywhere else in Europe uses a derivation of passover

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altasshetreply
lemmy.ca

Pretty sure the German "Ostern" has the same root. As I understand it, Passover is a completely different (Jewish?) holiday?

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Almondsreply
mander.xyz

My family celebrated both Passover and Easter for a few years. We were not Jewish, although we do have some distant Ashkenazi ancestry.

There was a trend for a while for people to "prove" their devoutness as Christians or Catholics by celebrating Jewish traditions because they gave rise to Christianity. It was weird

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Cethinreply
lemmy.zip

Well, their religion is centered around a Jew. If you want to do as Jesus would have done then you celebrate the Jewish traditions.

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I mean, it was very performative and it felt more like a novelty with how shallow it was. That's what was weird, there wasn't respect towards the traditions or an attempt to gain an understanding of the history of the faith or closeness with god.

I suppose looking back all of the traditions we practiced felt performative lol

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When Jesus (a Jew) celebrated the last supper it was the passover holiday, so called the last supper because He would be arrested and crucified soon after

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Gladaedreply
feddit.org

Colonial ambition of the bad tea people showing once again.

Not like parts of Germany weren't ruled by their monarchs in the past.

/s

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Decknamereply
discuss.tchncs.de

Well more like britain was ruled by german aristocracy. The Windsor's are actually descendants of the House Hannover.

Seems like you have fallen to the colonial ambitions of the bad tea people too :)

Edit: correctly identified the british as bad tea people.

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Gladaedreply
feddit.org

I am well aware. Glad to see someone didn't hesitate to call them the tea people, but let's be more honest and call them the bad tea people.

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Sorry for mansplaining and well akshully-ing then :D

Yes. Totally forgot the bad in front of the tea people.

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I do not know. But days before are called Big Thursday, Big Friday and Big Saturday.

So Easter would be called Big Sunday, but is instead called Big Night. Could be because the Christ has risen in the night between Sutrday and Sunday.

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Dicskareply
lemmy.world

In my language it means "meat taking" or "taking of the meat".

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Geoblokereply
aussie.zone

That makes sense because it was traditional to not eat meat during lent

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:D egy kedves ismerősömet juttatja eszembe, akinek huszonévesen esett le, hogy a tökmag attól tökmag, hogy a töknek a magja.

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Echo Dotreply
feddit.uk

Passover is a Jewish holiday.

UK is not a Jewish country so the two holidays are unrelated, but obviously a lot of different cultures are going to celebrate the days getting longer again so it's not surprising that there are multiple different holidays that are all celebrated at the same time. Also of course the Christian church overwrote a lot of pagan holidays so Easter being celebrated when the days get longer tracks even though that's not actually what the celebration is about.

I'm not really sure what the egg laying rabbit is about though.

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Well they are related, Jesus was Jewish and the last supper was celebrated during the passover holiday. Presumably the first Christians were Jewish and the passover name kinda stuck and found its way into the other cultures.

I first found out about it when celebrating Easter with my Italian room mates who called it Pascha. I wanted to know why and lo and behold Wikipedia came to the rescue. Which, according to Wikipedia, Easter is only called Easter in the UK. Happy to be corrected by language other than English speakers though!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_Easter?wprov=sfla1

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One sentence written by a monk with no proof nor backing is the most we have of "eostre" btw

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lemmus.org

Too.

Much.

Fucking.

White.

Space.

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FelixCressreply
lemmy.world

Out of curiosity, why do you have an issue with author's name?

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Decknamereply
discuss.tchncs.de

That just validates his behaviour. The best thing against idiots like this is to let them scream into the void and be alone with their "opinions".

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piefed.social

I would agree, but the one mod who could do anything has been gone for months.

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Beepreply
lemmus.org

In this specific case?

Do I even need to answer?

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FelixCressreply
lemmy.world

Yes, that's why I asked. Not necessarily in specific case but in general as you keep removing these.

I don't get it.

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Beepreply
lemmus.org

In short, to have a better ad free visual experience.

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FelixCressreply
lemmy.world

But a signature is not an add? Furthermore it makes you to do more work with cropping etc.

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Beepreply
lemmus.org

But the result is more beautiful comic that even I prefer to save on my drive, instead of the original.

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This explains your Aversion to credit, at least. Just put the name back on and turn the outer space transparent.

Also, top and bottom pixel count is visibly different.

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