SpaceX rockets are all but shitty, but you can claim it's despite Musk's involvement. Since it's been known he fires all the capable engineers who disagree with him.
I heard there was a person hired specifically to keep Elon away from the critical areas so he doesn't try to overrule a decision and destroy the company.
There was the whole department for it at Tesla, that's why their previous stuff was basically functional. Then something happened and they failed or got disbanded, and that's how cybertruck happened.
In fairness, the Falcon 9 / Dragon capsule systems are solid and reliable, with good track records.
So its not literally all SpaceX stuff.
But... yeah, the Starship/HeavyBooster is what happens when Elon is in charge, utter shit show.
And also, the Falcon 9 family never actually got close to the cost reductions Elon initially said would be delivered by the re-usability paradigm.
It would have to be roughly an order of magnitude less expensive, for a ton to orbit, than what it currently is, to match what he said it would achieve.
as 18107 says, yeah, at various Musk companies, their have been people whose main job was primarily to distract him from getting involved very directly, but this has apparently stopped being a thing.
Just go find the conversation he had with some of the high ups on the Twitter team, when he took it over.
He just knows buzzwords, beyond that, probably most of the people in this thread are more intelligent than he is, on literally any subject... he has no idea how anything works beyond a very big picture / conceptual level.
God, don't get me started on orbital data centers.
Either you cause kessler syndrome by launching a million microsats, or, you just I guess invent scifi level orbital engineering, and come up with a scifi solution for thermal regulation.
Also like, server data centers require, you know, on site maintenance.
@mod_pp these "make the CEO use the product" bloodsports are the cultural vector we need right now. ENACT LAWS enforcing C-suite use of their products.
My upper management was invited to a business partner company's board meeting, and I was asked to provide topics for them to push during the meeting, like, what strategic functionality would we want them to have for us to use etc.
I'm like, dear dimwits, we've been using their shit for 10 years now, we have what we need in terms of features. These new "AI assistant" crap they're pushing, it's useless and will NOT pay the cost, I've done the business case, fudge the numbers if you must and you'll still be hard-pressed to find savings there.
I asked them to make a fuss about how their support keeps getting worse and worse, as they keep firing people to the point that none of the competent people I got to know over the years works there anymore, it's only new joiners or incompetents left. I know their product better than their whole support team by now.
But sure, preach on to your shareholders about how you're doing miracles, while the company chews itself inside out until it gets so bad that it'll implode.
I had a similar experience a while back when a VP suggested I somehow 'implement the blockchain' ... in our entire SQL database system.
I literally head-desked, buried my head into my hands in that meeting, and just said No, you really really don't want to do that.
These people are fucking idiots, like actively, aggressively morons.
They only thing they are good at is being corpo social butterflies, they have no idea how anything actually works.
In a sane, meritocratic world, they'd lose their jobs.
But we live in an insane, nepotistic caste system that just loudly pretends it is meritocratic, so, don't be surprised when the inbred 'nobility' routinely produce abominations.
as they keep firing people to the point that none of the competent people I got to know over the years works there anymore, it’s only new joiners or incompetents left
So many companies these days are run entirely by burnt out competent people and well-meaning but entirely untrained new joiners that I'm surprised more haven't imploded yet.
Bro why is Atlassian actually so shit? Two of their open facing tickets I came across last night. One for them to fix table rendering in the description field of tickets and the other to enable the option for collapsable fields in Confluence to be expanded by default.
Both were the better portion of a decade old and both with 1-2 year old updates saying “sorry we’ve taken so long to provide an update on this request”. The confluence one was closed without word and move to another ticket, reducing the votes/views and therefore dev priority. Such basic functionality left unaddressed for a decade. Bizzare-o world with some of these tech companies I swear.
Yeah and it doesn’t help when the new (as of ~2 years ago) dev ops lead is an “AI first” type. I get all that but like 4 years in, tell us to get fucked “your fields are remaining forever collapsed”. 8 god damn years the initial confluence ticket was open.
I came across it while setting up a wiki page last night, there were people who had been monitoring it for years. Some real “abandon hope all ye who enter” type shit.
Every time they add the feature, half of the product breaks. The other half start using twice as much memory and compute, somehow.
They've got a pile of technical debt disguised as a product and the development velocity of the snail as a consequence. Very typical. The real question is "why hasn't the competition eaten their lunch already".
Atlassian is on the chopping block with the robots getting as good as they are at writing code. It wouldn't surprise me if we'll start seeing self-hosted clones that actually work and drop all of the shit complexity that most people don't use but Atlassian built to land specific customers. So much fucking bloat in software and core features being changed or ignored is due explicitly to this. The larger customers (by ARR) dictate the bounds of the product even if they are a tiny fraction of the actual user base. At work we're already throwing away a shitty case management system that exists purely to employ people like the little kids at the front of the train in Snowpiercer. We'll save 6-7 figures in annual licensing, and the team of specialists hired to work in this shitty system are already being migrated to other work. The Saaspocalypse is totally gonna be a thing.
I was about to say that as bad as Outlook was, I actually used its search to figure out some Jira ticket because just... damn trying to find a Jira ticket based on a few keywords is just a pain in the ass...
That's easy, you start in the first folder, look at each email until you find the one you need. If you reach the bottom and haven't found the mail, move to the next folder and repeat.
For most that shouldn't take more than 3 to 5 workdays.
That's the plan. They have so much put into copilot and no one is willing to use it. I wouldn't be surprised if they fucked over search to make it happen, but outlook search has always been an unusable POS
I don't know what the hell happened to outlook's search function with the update to 11, but I'm convinced it was actual sabotage.
Outlook insists that no one has ever sent me anything. If I search for an email from a specific person, that person doesn't exist. Unless sometimes they do. The first three letters of their last name, out of order? Fine, can find them no problem unless you're looking for when they sent you an attachment. Then no.
Copy and pasting their name in to the search bar? Who the fuck you talking about guy??
Looking for an email that has "and" in the subject line?
Here's every email you have with the letter A in it. Hope this helps! By the way have you tried CLAUDE?!
Yah, I had a similar thought regarding Google and the SEO which changed recipes into page long stories about the author's grandmother. Instead of wading through all the text to find the ingredients, just use ai.
Life pro tip that will make your IT deparment hate you: you can use Evolution and change the client id to match outlook's one in the advanced settings. It'll look like you are using the standard outlook client from your IT department point of view, but you'll actually get a usable interface instead.
I assume that thunderbird has the same options to override the client id, but I haven't checked.
Next can we get a super cut of the CEO using teams to connect to a few different meetings? Sure it might be fine a couple times in a row but that software is such dogshit in general.
Im not here to support Microsoft, but I am forced to use it at work. And I reference or forward old emails ALL the time. Like yea sometimes the search function brings up some extra shit also, but I've never spent more than a minute or two looking for an email.
Make Elon Musk sit atop one of his shitty rockets the next time it launches.
I prefer he sits at the bottom better.
SpaceX rockets are all but shitty, but you can claim it's despite Musk's involvement. Since it's been known he fires all the capable engineers who disagree with him.
I heard there was a person hired specifically to keep Elon away from the critical areas so he doesn't try to overrule a decision and destroy the company.
Probably give him a few easy to spot ‘problems’ to overrule, so that he doesn't meddle with the important things.
There was the whole department for it at Tesla, that's why their previous stuff was basically functional. Then something happened and they failed or got disbanded, and that's how cybertruck happened.
In fairness, the Falcon 9 / Dragon capsule systems are solid and reliable, with good track records.
So its not literally all SpaceX stuff.
But... yeah, the Starship/HeavyBooster is what happens when Elon is in charge, utter shit show.
And also, the Falcon 9 family never actually got close to the cost reductions Elon initially said would be delivered by the re-usability paradigm.
It would have to be roughly an order of magnitude less expensive, for a ton to orbit, than what it currently is, to match what he said it would achieve.
as 18107 says, yeah, at various Musk companies, their have been people whose main job was primarily to distract him from getting involved very directly, but this has apparently stopped being a thing.
Just go find the conversation he had with some of the high ups on the Twitter team, when he took it over.
He just knows buzzwords, beyond that, probably most of the people in this thread are more intelligent than he is, on literally any subject... he has no idea how anything works beyond a very big picture / conceptual level.
This is what I was claiming, too.
You remind me of the recent declaration about launching data servers in orbit.
God, don't get me started on orbital data centers.
Either you cause kessler syndrome by launching a million microsats, or, you just I guess invent scifi level orbital engineering, and come up with a scifi solution for thermal regulation.
Also like, server data centers require, you know, on site maintenance.
... its a very dumb, expensive idea.
It feels like he has to Titan submarine himself at this point. Maybe it'll be a cybertruck
@mod_pp these "make the CEO use the product" bloodsports are the cultural vector we need right now. ENACT LAWS enforcing C-suite use of their products.
let them eat shit.
My upper management was invited to a business partner company's board meeting, and I was asked to provide topics for them to push during the meeting, like, what strategic functionality would we want them to have for us to use etc.
I'm like, dear dimwits, we've been using their shit for 10 years now, we have what we need in terms of features. These new "AI assistant" crap they're pushing, it's useless and will NOT pay the cost, I've done the business case, fudge the numbers if you must and you'll still be hard-pressed to find savings there.
I asked them to make a fuss about how their support keeps getting worse and worse, as they keep firing people to the point that none of the competent people I got to know over the years works there anymore, it's only new joiners or incompetents left. I know their product better than their whole support team by now.
But sure, preach on to your shareholders about how you're doing miracles, while the company chews itself inside out until it gets so bad that it'll implode.
Sorry for the rant, this one hit close to home.
I had a similar experience a while back when a VP suggested I somehow 'implement the blockchain' ... in our entire SQL database system.
I literally head-desked, buried my head into my hands in that meeting, and just said No, you really really don't want to do that.
These people are fucking idiots, like actively, aggressively morons.
They only thing they are good at is being corpo social butterflies, they have no idea how anything actually works.
In a sane, meritocratic world, they'd lose their jobs.
But we live in an insane, nepotistic caste system that just loudly pretends it is meritocratic, so, don't be surprised when the inbred 'nobility' routinely produce abominations.
So many companies these days are run entirely by burnt out competent people and well-meaning but entirely untrained new joiners that I'm surprised more haven't imploded yet.
Lets just say there is a reason Warren Buffet has ~30% of all his investments in... cash.
Ain't no good investment opportunities.
Making CEOs use their product live is a great idea. It'll never happen because it's a great idea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJQ9JmRoMq8
This is pretty good stuff.
Tell that to the McDonald’s CEObot
I would pay money to see the McDonald's CEO eat an entire McDonald's burger product in a single sitting with zero camera cuts.
Would be interesting for the CEOs of businesses that make BDSM products.
Use? Their livelihood should depend on using functions of their app. "Couldn't find that email in two mins? Sorry you just lost 100K."
I don’t know. Between him and the CEO of Atlassian, I think the last will have more trouble. But… why not both?
Bro why is Atlassian actually so shit? Two of their open facing tickets I came across last night. One for them to fix table rendering in the description field of tickets and the other to enable the option for collapsable fields in Confluence to be expanded by default.
Both were the better portion of a decade old and both with 1-2 year old updates saying “sorry we’ve taken so long to provide an update on this request”. The confluence one was closed without word and move to another ticket, reducing the votes/views and therefore dev priority. Such basic functionality left unaddressed for a decade. Bizzare-o world with some of these tech companies I swear.
collapsible fields doesn't improve shareholder value
Yeah and it doesn’t help when the new (as of ~2 years ago) dev ops lead is an “AI first” type. I get all that but like 4 years in, tell us to get fucked “your fields are remaining forever collapsed”. 8 god damn years the initial confluence ticket was open.
I came across it while setting up a wiki page last night, there were people who had been monitoring it for years. Some real “abandon hope all ye who enter” type shit.
Who needs to find tickets when you have Rovo!
Wait, you’re saying you do not log in just to use it? What’s wrong with you, the shareholders specifically requested it. They’re never wrong.
Every time they add the feature, half of the product breaks. The other half start using twice as much memory and compute, somehow.
They've got a pile of technical debt disguised as a product and the development velocity of the snail as a consequence. Very typical. The real question is "why hasn't the competition eaten their lunch already".
Sorry, best we can do is rename tasks to work items.
sigh With a license fee increment as well, I suppose.
Atlassian is on the chopping block with the robots getting as good as they are at writing code. It wouldn't surprise me if we'll start seeing self-hosted clones that actually work and drop all of the shit complexity that most people don't use but Atlassian built to land specific customers. So much fucking bloat in software and core features being changed or ignored is due explicitly to this. The larger customers (by ARR) dictate the bounds of the product even if they are a tiny fraction of the actual user base. At work we're already throwing away a shitty case management system that exists purely to employ people like the little kids at the front of the train in Snowpiercer. We'll save 6-7 figures in annual licensing, and the team of specialists hired to work in this shitty system are already being migrated to other work. The Saaspocalypse is totally gonna be a thing.
Not making their product better is the one thing. Atlassian is actively making them worse.
Very very rarely emailing executives can get stuff fixed, amazing when it works though
Oh yee CEOs who lack the visibility they need…
I was about to say that as bad as Outlook was, I actually used its search to figure out some Jira ticket because just... damn trying to find a Jira ticket based on a few keywords is just a pain in the ass...
Here’s a 12 year old bug asking them to stop corrupting user entered comments by turning them into cutesy emoji.
https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/JRACLOUD-39164
They DGAF about actual users.
Make the servicenow ceo search for something in their product. Anything. Not even in a case. Just use the product.
Service-Now CEO would be the middle piece in my human centipede
sorry, but he's too busy trying to figure out where else to shove ai
god damn, I would touch myself to this one so hard.
Sounds painful
not nearly as painful as using service-now.
That's easy, you start in the first folder, look at each email until you find the one you need. If you reach the bottom and haven't found the mail, move to the next folder and repeat.
For most that shouldn't take more than 3 to 5 workdays.
Bro, I have 900 unread emails alone. Ill be done in 3 weeks.
Still faster than using the "search" function.
wouldn't they just ask Copilot?
and trust whatever it says
Honestly copilot search of emails is definitely a step up to the outlook search... Which doesn't say much...
That's the plan. They have so much put into copilot and no one is willing to use it. I wouldn't be surprised if they fucked over search to make it happen, but outlook search has always been an unusable POS
I have an excel VBA macro that can find emails that outlook says don't exist
I don't know what the hell happened to outlook's search function with the update to 11, but I'm convinced it was actual sabotage.
Outlook insists that no one has ever sent me anything. If I search for an email from a specific person, that person doesn't exist. Unless sometimes they do. The first three letters of their last name, out of order? Fine, can find them no problem unless you're looking for when they sent you an attachment. Then no.
Copy and pasting their name in to the search bar? Who the fuck you talking about guy??
Looking for an email that has "and" in the subject line?
Here's every email you have with the letter A in it. Hope this helps! By the way have you tried CLAUDE?!
Yah, I had a similar thought regarding Google and the SEO which changed recipes into page long stories about the author's grandmother. Instead of wading through all the text to find the ingredients, just use ai.
Please share!!
Surely he has 3 assistants for that.
Life pro tip that will make your IT deparment hate you: you can use Evolution and change the client id to match outlook's one in the advanced settings. It'll look like you are using the standard outlook client from your IT department point of view, but you'll actually get a usable interface instead. I assume that thunderbird has the same options to override the client id, but I haven't checked.
Don't blame me if you get in troubles though.
I tried running Thunderbird and while it's better than Outlook I still did not care for it
Outlook search has gotten way worse in the past year + 🤬
It's still bad, but you can save an ounce of sanity by keeping a copy of everything locally.
https://businesstechplanet.com/outlook-only-displaying-emails-newer-than-12-months-how-to-fix/
WeAreDevelopers conference 2025, CEO of GitHub was vibe coding for the last time as a CEO of GitHub.
Do it while being asked by a middle manager if you saw the email last week. Fucking story of my life.
And them make him create a new Minecraft account
Me: what rule moved that email to a random folder? Outlook: who the fuck knows?
Next can we get a super cut of the CEO using teams to connect to a few different meetings? Sure it might be fine a couple times in a row but that software is such dogshit in general.
Not only that but make him eat a McDonald's hamburger
Holy shit this is brilliant. I find much better results searching our archive solution for a term than whatever Outlook returns for me.
This might be better than the Guillotine
I only ever used it in the past because it was at work and that was the only allowed option.
With AI they might be able to figure out how to sort by date for search and by conversation for viewing. Microslop's search function sucks so much.
It'll be his secretary putting a ticket in
They would refuse. It's all fake news!!!
Im not here to support Microsoft, but I am forced to use it at work. And I reference or forward old emails ALL the time. Like yea sometimes the search function brings up some extra shit also, but I've never spent more than a minute or two looking for an email.
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