Microsoft patents system for AI helpers to finish games for you
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What's going to be their next trick? Launching a service that'll watch the latest Netflix series for me and give me a summary when it's done?
I don’t need a summary. Just have it tell me whether I liked it or not.
Of course you did. Or else.
Drink a verification can to continue, consumer-slave.
Or if it will reach a conclusion or be prematurely dropped.
And provide a succinct list of talking points and responses to chat to people at work about?
Brain chip that blasts the entire series at you in one second.
At least that way I'd get to enjoy it while dying from my aneurysm.
"The View? I'm gonna watch The View?"
"Hey Mikey. I think he likes it"
Getting every episode of Dr Oz uploaded to your frontal lobes.
or ANTI-VAXXERS entire manifesto/agenda into your brain.
Electric Monk. A device to believe things for you.
Obviously, how else will you keep slaving away for shareholders AND consume media to keep that creatively bankrupt corpse afloat as well?
Sucks teeth. I suppose that would be a rather tall order without tool assistance. On a completely unrelated note, I just had the oddest flash of somebody having welded a golden(ish) bull to the front of a surplus APC ramming the resultant amalgamation into the nearest stock exchange and / or AI data center. No idea why.
Chem trails.
Looks suspiciously at the cold remains of my last cup of coffee.
...Yeah, probably.
Ah, the world we all hoped for with AI:
AI doing all the fun stuff like art and games and humans get to do the hard work like fixing AI mistakes, fighting wars, and working until we die
That's the future we all wanted. Going to work all day so robots could sit at home and play games.
Presumably this is marketed at Elon Musk so he can pretend to be a gamer.
I was starting to write a sarcastic comment about the future of Xbox being just the customer paying for a game and then watching the computer play it for them, but yeah that could totally happen.
This is like 3 degrees from every kid now who just watches streamers play a game instead of actually playing it.
And yes, I get that some of this is due to them being lonely. Which is another societal issue. Its fucked up man.
Like... A movie?
This already exists as idle games on phones. I can't imagine anything more lame.
I think those games that are made to be boring and absurdly grindy and then offer you to pay to skip the boring parts are even worse. And they're not limited to phone, too.
"Pay to not play", when we ensure our gameplay loop is so bad that you literally think your time spent in it has negative value.
Don't forget paying for the AI "service" too
Of course. Why would I want to play games?
I can’t wait until AI can pet my dog and fuck my wife for me.
Hey it’s me, the AI. What kind of dog we talking bout here?
At his speech in Davos the fuckwit known as Elon Musk was talking about how in the future everybody will have or wants to have their own personal AI robot that is taking care of their elderly or children for them. Or taking care of their pets. Like, the clankers are already overtaking the wrong tasks. Now just take human interaction out of everything please so I can finally fulfill my dream of being fulltime obedient work cattle. /s just in case
Please master Elon, I desperately want to free myself from the shackles of genuine human connection. I desire the cold embrace of steel and servitude.
Legitimately the dude is a sociopathic teenager.
"Why would I wanna spend time with Grandma or the kids or my wife or my dog when I can sit and play video games and draw cool stuff in my notebooks."
I don't think any of these fucking weirdos know what "genuine human connection" IS. I don't think any of them have actually internalized a genuine, caring relationship at any point. They know how the steps of the dance, they can do it on command, but it's soulless.
Okay, look, I loved my grandparents, but spending time with them at the end was horrifying and I really would have watched paint dry in preference.
Kids, dogs, and partner could also have some time off my hands by taking care of certain limited tasks. Cooking, cleaning, wiping ass... Don't tell me you want to cook every breakfast, lunch, and dinner compared to playing a board game with the dog while the android dices your onions and peppers and the partner and kids take a nap on the ceiling.
Wait for it to mess up and end up petting your wife and fucking your dog.
Hand Banana, no!!
Tonight, you.
You spelled Microslop wrong.
Wait until Mircrosoft finds out you can watch playthrough videos on YouTube without having to buy the game.
oh crap, actually you made me realize that YouTube is going to be full of AI playthrough videos soon. 😫
It's like asking your older sibling for help beating the tough level, except a lot sadder and lonelier
What's even the point of this.....
Legitimately nothing. I think this is MS looking for use cases, because they have sunk all their capacity into AI. They cannot detangle themselves from their AI, and they're trying to course correct into SOMETHING that might be profitable and pull them out of their death spiral.
They created the solution with no problem. Now they're making problems up.
It’s so hard to raise kids to turn off the light when they leave the room, with huge wastes of electricity like this just running rampant in the world.
Yea, I used to clean the windows in office buildings and we'd go into a completely empty floor and all the lights would be on and the heat or A/C would be blasting. Then I'd be downtown at 4am shoveling snow and I'd look up and all the inside lights in those empty office buildings were still on.
Then we'd get a notice to help conserve energy at home.
Take this with a grain of salt because I have 0 knowledge, but Ive read that they do that to balance the grid. Power used at night is not an issue but home usage during peak hours is what cracks the grid.
I've been told that before and I guess it makes sense, but maybe after the offices have been abandoned for over a year they could turn off the lights and lower heat -a/c on those floors during the day so the grid would have more capacity for residential.
Let’s skip the playing part. Let the customers pay and directly see their playthrough results and achievements.
Gaming in 2028: I am an elite gamer, I have purchased 100% completion in Forza Horizon 7.
Used to be that patents were bad for innovation, like loading screen mini games or the nemesis system from the Mordor games. These days patents tend to be crap where I'm happy it's patented so others (hopefully) won't do that shit.
That should really be someone's day job. Think of all the horrible shit that could be invented and patent it so it is never actually created.
The patent for the loading screen mini games should expire soon, right? I'm hoping it makes a comeback soon.
Already has, but loading screens are too quick now to make it worth actually doing.
And they've flipped it. Instead of putting games in your loading screens, they just hide the loading within the game, now.
I honestly love this. I find it interesting to spot the times when games do this. I think the Mass Effect elevators was the first game I really noticed it in, but some games are really good at hiding it.
They want me to pay them for a game and then pay them for their AI to play it for me.
and then pay them for completion of the game, and results are seperate cost, saves will be using AI which is another cost.
Lame
Sure, burn the planet for a gamegenie.
I want the computer to do the work, not the fun, for fuck's sake!
Why don't you just fucking kill me, and replace me with an AI copy of myself. What a dumb fucking world these companies are pushing for.
Jackasses.
Not for nothing, but couldn't this be used to have AI play a game for 80,000 simulated hours and flag all the bugs? Human playtesters are important and have value, but no human should have to do the work of criss-crossing an enormous game map thousands of times just to see if the character model gets stuck on a random vertex sticking out somewhere, and yet it seems to be a distressingly common occurrence in more than a few games I've played.
Croteam did something like that for "Talos principle". You can read here (points 9 and 10 in the article).
Nvidia is doing a lot of that. It's slightly better than nothing. It also quite expensive unless you're Nvidia.
Well at least someone will play the video games while I'm working my 80 hour work weeks!
Just one upping Sonys ai ghost tutorials
Environmental destroyers, future generations will condemn this irresponsible behavior and hopefully punish it.
Maybe they can enhance it to play the whole game instead of just the end.
Gonna put LPers out of business
Hey I'm grump!
I'm not so gruuuump!
And we're the artifically intelligent poor mans recreation of the game grumps!
Hey Dan.
Yes Arin?
I am the boy of video games. I am made of win! Check out my 12 fingers!
Wow Arin! That's cool! I have 45 lbs of afro!
I would love to go back in time and show this to somebody who worked at the Nintendo Power Tip Hotline. They would be all like "oh shit, AI is going to take our jobs in the future?" not knowing that their jobs were replaced decades ago by autistic people with dial-up internet making GameFAQs txt files.
I miss GameFAQs text pages. Now it's YouTube videos stretched out to 10 minutes to explain 30 seconds worth of info.
so they spent millions attacking and removing hackers from their games, only to allow AI bots to do it for a subscription fee......
iran, can you blow up this data center while you're at it?
Hahahahahahahahaha now Elon can beat every game ever! Hahahahahahaha!
So fucking out of touch, LMAO.
That is one of few use cases of AI : to cheat instead of getting good at anything.
Just watch a movie at this point. I started playing old games because I was missing the feeling of staring at a screen for a solid minute with no idea how to proceed and having to figure it out for yourself, or repeating the same section again and again slowly conquering what seemed impossible on the first try.
this could be a way to help people complete difficult parts, but there exists another solution to this problem
asking game developers to add assist modes
it is much easier to do, much cheaper, better integrated into the game, basically impossible to fail, works on all platforms, does not need internet access, is not resource intensive, but it does not use AI so its bad
soo
extremly unoptimised tool assisted speedrun?
What's the point then? I pay for a game that I'm not even playing just so, what, my numbers of "completed" games goes up?
I'm someone who likes seeing the stats go up as I watch anime. But I do it naturally and over time. This AI idea is like if I were to start an anime, put it on auto-play while I sleep, and when I wake up it'll be done, without me seeing a single scene.
And like that, we now have corporation produced bots in videogames.
Oh neat, just one step away from having AI buy the game for me as well.
Meeting in Microsoft 2026:
Meeting in Microsoft 2028:
I am afraid that it actually can sell... botting already is happening in a lot of games to farm ressources and sell them for RL moneys. Right now this goes against most games ToS, but if this is a 'legal' way of doing things with less risk, it could be viable for some people...
Not that I condone any of this, but ressource markets in games will be heavily cornered then.
In Mircrosoft capitalism the game play you.
Can you patent something as trivial as this?
nintendo once patented the "digital representation of water"
All the big companies crank out a dozen patents every day, that cover everything under the sun, just in case they ever have to engage with each other in patent warfare. For the simple reason that the competitors are doing the same.
Somehow we never hear about the vast majority of these patents.
Didnt Sony just patent something similar?
That’s what all WoW players will use day one for their daily quests.
Dailies, and other similar grinds, are one of the worst crimes against humanity in mmos. Surely we can move beyond the 'take twenty hours to level up your character so you can progress' idea that crystallized in jrpgs and now sits in the center of the late game experience like a giant aragog sucking your enjoyment. Let me just log in and raid, gorramit!
The example given in the article is trying to get a rare gem or something. I honestly think it would be pretty funny to see chatgpt try to get something truly difficult. I imagine that AI would be quite bad at precise, well timed and executed maneuvers.
I'd love to watch it try to get the never die achievement in dark souls 2.
I could genuinely see it getting like one good stream on twitch, kinda like twitch plays pokemon, but I have some serious doubts that AI would be able to manage an achievement like that.
Microslop might as well just start selling achievements. Even if AI was good at this task, its still redundant because you can give a digital achievement to anybody. Just another usecase in which AI is useless lol
Fair, just like using gameplay changing mods achievements should be locked out for this.
So, an NPG, like, a movie?
surely this is bait 😂
It makes me sad to see everyone trashing this so much. No one ever thought of it as a disability aid? I would love to have a system that would let me hand off strenuous parts to the AI so I could take over during less intense parts.
Edit: Fuck you lemmy bunch of ableist twats.
Games already have this. There's almost always a difficulty setting, and one of those settings in newer games is often "story only." You make decisions, but your character executes the fast-twitch stuff itself.
LMAO! Just what the “I want it now” generation dreams of.