The question Joe Biden keeps asking: ‘You think we can actually come back from this?’
The line Joe Biden used to put into nearly every big speech — “I’ve never been more optimistic about America’s future” — is a long way from what he says in private now.The line Joe Biden used to put into nearly every big speech — “I’ve never been more optimistic about America’s future” — is a long way from what he says in private now.
These days, multiple people who’ve spoken to him over the last year say, Biden often punctuates conversations with: “You think we can actually come back from this?”
The 83-year-old Biden continues to feel out a post-presidency that may prove to be one of the shortest in history and is already one of the most complicated.
There are days when Biden is heartbroken, indignant or in disbelief about what is happening as President Donald Trump — the man he defeated in 2020 — returned and moved not just to tear down his accomplishments, but to dig in with petty insults like the autopen photograph he put in Biden’s spot in the “Presidential Walk of Fame” installed at the White House.
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Then why didnt he do more to prevent it?
Yes it's definitely Biden's fault that Americans gave the republicans the house, senate and presidency.
Dude sat on the Trump/Epstein files for 4 years and did nothing about it because it would have hurt the donor class and Israel.
Trump won on a (false) pledge to release the files.
Who deserves the blame for this situation in your mind?
Both of them
You're correct but apparently this thread is only for hyperbole. Do not pass go, do not collect $200.
Four years when it was still sealed by the courts because it was still an ongoing investigation?
Also, you really don't know how the government is supposed to work if you think the president even should have had a hand in the day-to-day operations of the DOJ...
HE WAS AN INSURECTIONIST, WAS BIDEN NOT AWARE BECAUSE IT WAS SEALED INFORMATION?
COPE HARDER.
I never said he wasn't aware. It would have been a breach of procedure to make documents pertaining to an ongoing case public. Such a breach of procedure can actually allow criminals to walk free.
It would have been idiotic and unprofessional to release documents pertaining to an ongoing investigation.
Also, the insurrection case was being put together, it just needed more time. Jack Smith did all he could in the two years he was given, but the Supreme Court decided to punt their decision on whether to allow the case to go through.
There's literally nothing more that Biden could have personally done in that regard, and if you think there was then you don't understand the role of the president, nor do you understand the dangers of forcing or even allowing a president to claim prosecutorial powers.
You act like that shit isn't happening right now under Trump. I am pretty fucksure we are all well aware of the dangers.
The point is not realizing if they didn't break some rules to stop him, Trump was gonna stomp all over every rule and has literally turned the DOJ into his own grievance chasing law firm.
So yeah, it's literally happening right the fuck now so why should I give a shit about someone breaking the same rules to STOP this from becoming the norm. It sure as fuck is the norm now.
Well I was completely on board with doing everything we could to stop trump, but for some reason for a lot of people the line was drawn at actually voting. So yeah, trump is destroying the institutions of the US government and yeah, we're all fucked. But if Biden destroyed those very same institutions in some "preemptive strike" against trump, we'd still be fucked. Either way, the system is broken. The only thing that would change is who broke the system, and trump could avoid looking like the bad guy while laying all the blame at Biden's feet for taking the bait.
At least this way, what trump is doing is unprecedented. Its quite clear that he's the one breaking the system, and even though he still tries to accuse Biden of everything he's doing, people can at least see through it.
This just in: investigations take longer in real life than on TV. Investigations of people with lots of lawyers take even more time and - stay with me - strategy.
Just because you didn't see something happening, doesn't mean it's not happening. That's like Object Permanence.
Fucker tried to overthrow the government. If you can't convict someone for that and prevent him from running again in 4 years that's a serious failure to your duties as president. If the court system can't handle it then maybe he should have used his presidential immunity the fucking supreme court ruled to get rid of the threat.
Edit: also if biden wouldn't have hopped on taking momentum away from Bernie in the primaries, it probably would have been Trump vs Bernie. And I believe Bernie would have won 2 terms. I think biden did decent as president, but allowing an insurrectionist to run again was a huge error.
There is NO excuse for allowing Trump and his henchmen to roam free after Biden's inauguration. He would have been well within his presidential, constitutional, and legal duties to round them all up and detain them in Guantanamo for extensive interrogation.
Trump had attempted a violent Insurrection only a couple of weeks before. What kind of a NEW national leader takes over, and doesn't do ANYTHING about a serious, active National Security Threat running actively destroying their nation?
Easily the worst case of negligence and incompetence by a Democratic president since WWII.
Presidents don't have prosecutorial power. Are you fucking stupid?
You're right, thats the DOJ. Now who appoints the head of the DOJ? That's right, it's the fucking president. So it was entirely in his power to appoint someone that would do his fucking job.
But sure, I guess I'm just stupid.
Cause presidents can see the future and know who will or won't betray their oaths of office ahead of time?
You're telling me 4 years was too short a time to build a case against an insurrectionist pedophile who was referenced more than any other individual in the files?
And your chastising me for object permanence? L O fucking L
Or the case put together by Mueller during Trump's presidency! Where the only impediment to going to trial was that Trump was currently president.
These people will talk about slow and steady justice until the statute of limitations expires and then praise the prosecution for being cautious. If this was the best our justice system could do, we don't have one.
Justice delayed is justice denied. Many girls and now women in the Epstein files can attest to that.
They have testimonies going back decades if they had wanted to look into it they would have by now
SCOTUS gave the presidency unilateral powers for official acts. Biden could have easily threw the bad Supremes into the slammer, release the PDFiles, have Tulsi shot for being a Russian agent, and more.
Abusive, yes. But at least it would force all the bullshit into the light.
I guess letting Trump run out the clock on justice was the voters fault too, then, eh? Even when Biden was literally handed a way to prevent Trump from running on a silver platter by the Supreme Court that basically ruled that anything a President does is part of Presidential Duties. He and the entire apparatus around him including twerps like Merrick Garland has so many fucking options to stop this. The courts, the department of justice, the President, all of them had taken an oath to protect democracy and that oath doesn't disappear because the voters are stupid. They all bend over like grass under a push-me-pull-you lawnmower going "oh for fucks sake" and deciding that fighting corruption was too hard and too risky for themselves personally. People whined about judges getting death threats and that's why they were hesitant to play hardball... Are you fucking kidding me? Like they thought that would protect them or anyone else? Now fascism is boldly kicking the fucking doors in and those people and their families are in more danger than they were back then, except now the whole country is in just as much danger. They bent over because their pussy asses thought they could and should save themselves instead of fight fascism and asshats are all like "it's the voters fault!" when Trump legally shouldn't have been allowed to run for the Presidency at all for a litany of reasons and nobody with any real power did anything to stop it! Sure, it's our fault, not a system that allowed it to happen, fuck me, give me a break! The people in charge abdicated their responsibility to justice and then said it's the voters fault, get the fuck out of here.
Stop rewriting history. In a country where laws actually meant something and mattered he would have been in prison for 34 felonies and not allowed to run due to being an insurrectionist and guilty of treason for stealing and selling state secrets. How the living fuck is that the voters fault? The system failed the voters before the voters failed the system.
here's something that still fucking rankles me:
think about all the billions of dollars, year after year, we put into the NSA, CIA, DIA, FBI, and so many other intel orgs - and what good did it do when a treasonous pedophile came knocking?
What's the fucking point of it all if this is the outcome?
Exactly, what the fuck are we even paying taxes for if not to protect us from this kind of shit???
To protect the real rulers, who are the billionaires and multinational corporate entities, duh!
To shape a global racial hierarchy and make sure socialism doesn’t get too far
So that some people who grew up watching movies about spies get to be spies.
Those organizations exist to enrich and protect the elite. We need to erase them from existence, and start over with new services that don't have any personnel from the old ones. If nothing else, starting fresh would allow us to instill good character and priorities into our intelligence services.
If the voters and non-voters hadn't voted him back in the wheels of justice would probably kept turning slowly as they do.
Do you want to establish the precedence of a president demanding the DOJ arrest their opposition?
Because I'm not sure that's a great idea.
Well, it sure seems to have worked without taking so long that the assholes who already broke the laws came back into power like in South Korea and Brazil. Those systems didn't go "whoopsies we ran out of time, I guess they can take power again!"
A system that allows this to happen and places the blame on the voters instead of fighting for a better world is a system that was always going to end up this way.
A system that can just have the clock run out on justice is always going to be gamed like this, stop lying to yourself.
To be fair the voters and non-voters have a large share of the responsibility for this situation that's how a democracy works.
Yes and we voted in people to represent us by upholding the law and following their oaths to office and they failed at representing our interests, upholding the law, and following their oaths miserably.
We voted in Trump and his gang with majorities in the house and senate.
Every one of your comments is beyond ridiculous. I think you're just here to troll.
Do you not think that voters and non-voters have a large role in how a democracy plays out?
Merrick Fucking Garland was a poor choice in the first place, a sop to 'the other side' and he performed exactly as expected.
Bernie Sanders would have won against Trump all three races, if we just had to have an old white guy.
Biden was earnest, but he did not, and does not have the balls required in these modern times
Can we come back from this?
What a joke. Biden himself had the opportunity and the authority to start that process, and his entire administration farted around for three full years.
You are so fucking ignorant if you think the wheels of justice were slowly turning.
So publish the files? Biden could have done that easily.
Actually, I do blame him for overestimating his health, and thinking he had enough in the tank for another run. He clearly did not.
Would Harris have still been the nominee had there been an actual primary? Maybe, maybe not. But whoever won that would have been a better candidate.
I was extremely pissed off after watching that debate. The man I saw that night simply didn't have it anymore, and it was more than just jetlag or a cold. There was nobody close to Biden who could have sat down with him before the election and told him directly that he didn't have it anymore?
We talk about how Trump surrounds himself with yes-men and sycophants. I think Biden didn't do much better.
His health was plain as day before he was elected, but liberals kept insisting it was only a stutter. They buried their heads in the sand so they could be the oppressors of the working class again.
Although somehow, Trump being just as mentally incompetent, wasn't an issue. He may be a couple years younger but he is in no objectively measured way more competent. The GOP could run a sewer rat and leftists would still complain that the human Democrat was more of a problem. No, Biden, there isn't a way back. America is hooped.
We were not the ones that chose to overlook his mental decline, the fact his campaign was tanking, and his racist past. That wound of Biden was self inflicted. There was a candidate that several leftists compromised with, but not having the balls to do what's right, liberals selected the candidate that the party chose for them
He still speaks better than Trump. He is more cognitively in tact and shows better judgement as well. Always has.
No. He doesnt. You can stop lying about how feeble Biden is. Trump may be flatly and criminally insane but he can talk/ramble like a two year old. Biden cant. Thats just a simple fact, and your denying reality about Biden still highlights a huge problem on both sides. There just is no objective reality anymore. People like yourself want to claim self serving bullshit is real. We need to bring truth back.
Nope.
People that support trump think the same about him. You are blinded by the D in front of his name
I couldn't give a fuck about party
Listen, fat . . . I . . .aww. C'mon Man.
Biden was one of the best presidents in my lifetime and he would have been for a second run too.
Being a white male he probably could have pulled off the win again too.
Not after that debate. If he had stayed in, all Trump would have had to do was play clips from it.
I do think that he was a very good President. His entire legacy is tarnished by holding on too long. If this is it for America, historians will write volumes on how Fascist America was enabled by people like him (and RBG) holding on to power past their "best by" dates.
And let's cross our fingers on Sotomayor.
Trump sounds the exact same but he won so I don’t think you’re right.
Trumps voters like that he sounds like a common man, aka stupid. Democrats want to vote for someone smart and capable.
Both Biden and RBG trashed their legacies by failing to step aside
Uhh, I guess that really depends on how old you are? If you're a millenial you've only seen 5-6 presidents and half of them are Republicans. So the "best of" list is really just like 2-3 people.
He would have only won if his staff could successfully manage a Weekend at Bernie's campaign. And even then, that doesn't make him the best or right choice.
Trump is not Biden's fault but Biden failed to act to prevent another Trump presidency by not aggressively prosecuting the J6 coup.
Bro. It took Biden until October '24 to even realize that half of america lives pay check to pay check and is struggling to buy fucking food and housing.
Biden was not a good president. he just wasn't as bad as some of the others, and that's an incredibly low bar.
Also, good presidents lock up pedophiles.
one of the reasons Kamala had such a hard time was that she wasn't coming in on a fresh campaign, but rather trying to clean up and fix the mess Biden handed her. (there's other reasons like not distancing herself from biden on certain issues, too. And racism. racism and mysogeny probably didn't help, but that was surmountable.)
I will never get sick of centrists thinking they are saying something moderate they think people can agree on getting ratio'd by the reality they are very, very alone in their beliefs.
Getting ratio’d on this site by people who don’t put up candidates, organize parties or hardly even vote doesn’t mean much.
Democrats are by far either the most popular or the second most popular party in the states in every single modern election.
Democrats and liberals are not alone in our beliefs.
Actually, you are fucking with a very engaged crowd that is by and large far more politically educated and engaged than you are, which is why you are getting ratio'd with pushback.
I’ve had more pushback before plus I’ve seen what makes the leftists cheer so I’m not exactly looking for their approval just trying to get them to open their eyes a bit.
We did! We had Claudia De La Cruz and the DNC SUED TO KEEP HER OFF THE BALLOT IN SWING STATES AND WON‼️
I usually agree with you over the non-voting leftists here, but I have to say I agree with them that Biden clearly wasn’t fit for another election, and his selfish decision to run again may be largely responsible for Trump’s second term.
100% a troll.
Nah, just the resident blue MAGA, spinning the same yarn as always.
Aka a troll
Nah, trolls do it to get a rise out of people, they're aware they're being ridiculous. This one 100% actually believes this shit.
You’ll notice all these comments are basically a criticism for Biden not being the superhero they wish for…
None speak to anything the admin did or what actually happened during his four years vs the four prior or after…
MERRICK GARLAND
GAZA
LOUD NOISES!
I LOVE LAMP!
Plenty of things to criticize but this mindless bullshit misses the forest for the trees…
Oh I'm sorry, I thought your complaint was that no one was criticizing anything under his control that happened during his time in office. But it seems like you were just jerking off and now want to make an entirely different argument.
So. like. the too-long-didn't-care is treating responsibility for things like it's zero sum game is stupid. Absolutely... incomprehensibly stupid.
Biden is absolutely repsonsible for having not done everything in his power as POTUS to put trump in jail.
and lets not forget... for the first half of Biden's presidency, he had both the house and the senate- not by supermajority levels, no. but they had control and they pissed it away with compromise.
And if you're going to give Biden credit for the Build Back Better bill and the other one... which I'm sure you do... then Biden can also take credit for that. (especially the decision to not pack the courts, or break the filibuster.)
His arrogant hubris and the DNC not forcing him out gave us Trump, again.
He's not blameless
I'm interpreting the way you're saying it as being a sarcastic joke but him being the POTUS made him the de facto leader of the Democratic party, who in turn failed to influence the majority of Americans to vote for them. It's been coming out recently that the party's own investigation into their 2024 loss revealed that the policy around Gaza played a significant role in their defeat, policy that self-proclaimed zionist President Biden had the power to influence and ultimately supported.
So yeah... It kinda is his fault.
Democrats could have met the moment and parroted popular leftist policies like taxing the billionaires, ending the Palestinian genocide, installing universal healthcare, etc.
Instead they dug themselves a hole with idpol and chasing the Right
He sure didn't do anything to inspire citizens to vote for Democrats. In fact, he supported a genocide that every moral American was appalled by.
Finally, you get it.
Yes it’s definitely not the people who voted for Trump or that decided not to vote at all.
It was your party
Two things can be true.
People shouldn't have abstained from voting to protest the DNC's position on a genocide that is still happening under Trump (a guy who wants to turn Gaza into a resort town once the Palestinians have been exterminated) alongside everything else he's doing domestically as well as the trade and diplomatic clusterfucks. They let perfection be the enemy of progress and that was clearly a mistake.
But Biden also should have released the Epstein files, he should've stepped down as a one term president and allowed a primary to decide the next candidate, the DNC and Biden/Harris campaigns should've ran much stronger campaigns rather than assume "we're not Trump" would do enough of the work for them. They did nothing to rally the base and motivate people to go vote.
There's plenty of blame to go around. It's no one group or individuals fault.
If a persons red line wasn't genocide they don't deserve support, they deserve to lose
Frankly, they deserve a trial at the Hague
You gave them the option between genocide and genocide. We told you that this would lose the election for the Democrats. You got the outcome you advocated for.
God that argument is so disengenuous. It basically comes to "cater to us a vocal minority or we won't play."
You leftists scream about the genocide but what exactly did you accomish? Smugness? Superiority? I haven't heard a single leftist give a shit about South Sudan or Myanmar. Leftists are quiet when it comes to Ukraine. But you're incredibly loud about Gaza... you know, the crater where a people used to live because the crap candidate didn't capitulate to your demands.
Well now everything is fucked, the US has zero creditability, our allies hate us, ICE is officially the Gestapo, and concentration camps are being built.
But hey. Continue the tired ass line about "well we should have had a candidate who was against the genocide."
Fun fact. Historically, when fascists take control, the first ones they try to stamp out is leftists.
But at least you can sleep at night now knowing that because you didn't vote for genocide, you now allowed one to be completed with impunity.
Well done tankies.
Edit: Joe Biden was a fucking pussy who didn't do what needed to be done.
What did you reactionary centrists accomplish? You handed us Trump. We gave you the path to winning and you chose not to take it. Its on you.
Yeah, your fucking fault dude.
You couldn't win the election otherwise. Did you actually want to win the election or not? Because it follows that if you defended the candidate while they held an unelectable policy position, you were doing the work to get Trump elected.
Leftists rarely show up anyways. But hey. Continue to shift the blame. Whining and doing nothing is what you do best.
For being a minority we seem to hold all the power
Schrödinger's anti-genocide vote. Simultaneously able to have determined the outcome of an entire election, but also not important enough of a coalition to address their concerns and bring them (back) into the tent.
Glad you think a slide into fascism is a joke.
AP News 6 hours ago: Americans’ sympathies in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict have shifted dramatically, new poll shows
You're heads in the sand thinking this is a minority extremist position. The people advocating for this saw where the winds were blowing and your ego still can't acknowledge it.
I'm sure they appreciate the change in sympathies from the world.
Oh wait.
If this was any normal election, then I would have supported the protest voters.
The problem was that it wasn’t. Trump is trying to ethnically cleanse Latinos out of America. I knew this was going to happen and I wanted to avoid it.
Immigrants were pleading with protest voters during the election. There are Latinos who protested with them from the beginning that have now gone into hiding. I talked to an immigrant that was begging leftists to care, and they accused them of being for genocide just for wanting their family to survive.
It’s not that I hate leftism. But a lot of leftists are unsafe for POC and women. They are privileged enough to prioritize ideals over safety. I only trust leftists that are intersectional, not those who champion some mythical homogeneous global working class.
This guy gets it. And I'm still waiting for a leftist to acknowledge South Sudan.
Its interesting how "we told you this would lose" equates to "you will lose because you alienate leftists.
The reality is voter apathy and a majority of the population choosing not to vote because they see no difference between the outcome regardless of who wins.
Democrats will do the same shit to appease Their donor bosses, they just feel a little bit of shame about the means they think justify those ends. Thats why youll never hear libs talking about somthing like abolishing ice, only better training them so they have less collateral damage.
The people who don't see a difference are fucking morons. Biden never invaded any US cities.
Genocides are horrible things that should never happen but too many people are using the word as critical-thought terminating cliches.
It's like trying to talk to an anti-abortionist and the only thing they can do is call you a baby killer.
You have to decide if you wanted to win the election or not, and its never been clear to me that you ever actually wanted to win. What its always appeared to be, is that you wanted to mantain ideological control of the party (which you did do, and have continued to: the party is still pro-genocide).
But what is clear, is that the party could not win with the general election with a Democratic candidate supporting a genocide.
How many house and senate democrats support Israel and how many don't?
The USA is a democracy; every one of us is responsible individually for what we do with our votes.
You, I infer, decided that the best thing to do with your vote was endorse the rapist who promised to do absolutely nothing to stop the genocide in Gaza over the candidate who at the least would have protested.
Which sure as fuck was your right, but it's kinda weird that you're trying to argue that this isn't exactly what you voted for.
In a single-ballot plurality-wins-all election anything but a vote for the runner up is an endorsement of the eventual winner.
But the system we vote for isn't responsible for enforcing laws like... *checks notes... putting 34 time felons in prison, preventing insurrectionists for running for office, and letting people who commit treason of stealing and selling state secrets to the highest bidder run for office? It's all our fault huh? The system didn't fail us first, huh?
You're trying to place blame on an individual instead of a party that encourages policies that creates voter disenfranchisement.
Why is critical analysis attacked?
This is what I hear when people blame the voters: "Instead of one candidate changing their stance, millions of voters should instead change their stances!"
No. I'm recognizing the actual system we have pointing out that anti-genocide non-voters made a deliberate choice.
This isn't a disenfeanchisement issue so much as it is a disengagement problem. There citizens had the sane franchise as everyone else, and chose not to go vote against a rapist.
There's plenty of blame to slap on the Democratic party from the former president and candidate all the way down. But Biden not standing by his purported morals and Harris not breaking with him when he didnt compel non-voters not to cast a vote. They're adults and citizens and should either stand by their choice and argure that it was correct or else concede that they made a mistake and would change it if they could
Single issue voters are one of the biggest problems with US politics. They're willing to ignore everything else about reality. Doesn't matter if it's Genocide, LGBTQ issues, or Abortion, it's the same outcome.
The worst option overall becomes the most likely.
You don't control the electorate. You don't have to like the way people are to recognize that they are in-fact that way. Stop confusing how you want the world to be with how the world is.
Candidates can either address the issues of those single issue voters or they lose the election.
Crickets regarding South Sudan and Ukraine...
Who's "we"?
gestures vaguely at all the independent media coverage from 2023-2024
So you didn't vote for Harris and you're part of the Independent media?
Here it is. Not pretending that this is about anything beyond your ability to claim the high ground. How has that worked out for Gaza?
Tankies cry about Gaza but don't give a shit about Ukraine, South Sudan, or Myanmar. That lack of discussion there not only undermines their creditability, but it makes them look as antisemitic as MAGA.
Take a breather mate, you have lost the plot completely.
He wanted to have his genocide and give Israel everything he could, and as soon as he was gone Bibi shit on him and said he did very little. Fuck Biden.
I wonder how Kamala feels about throwing the election rather than making a stand against genocide.
/we pretty much know what's in the DNC's report about their failed campaign
I hope it haunts her until the day she dies.
I doubt that she has learned anything. She is shamelessly floating the idea of running again in 2028.
ftfy.
Why hasn’t anyone in your country done anything to prevent it?
He did more to stop trump than literally anyone else in the country. He even put his own ego out of the way when it became clear that he didn't have enough support to win the election. He couldn't have done anything more.
I'll argue that Thomas Crooks made more concrete actions against Trump, but go off...
Are you suggesting that a sitting president should have had his main political opponent assassinated during an election year? Because it sounds like that's what you're suggesting, and if so, fuck off back to moscow cause we don't want that shit here.
Nope, just speaking in terms of absolutes. Crooks, as an American citizen, took as much of a concrete action to remove the man as could be made and paid as high a price as could be paid.
Biden may have given all he thought himself able, but that's neither here nor there.
The supreme court gave him absolute immunity and didnt protect the constitution. Keep on cucking bootlicker
Go fuck yourself. At least he believed in a better system enough not to stoop to the level of his opponent.
Yeah that is called being a coward
It's called following the law and not setting a dangerous precedent.
Oh, well ill remind you that Merrick garland, appointed by Biden, did absolutely jack shit despite there being sufficient evidence. The administration was a failure and the only reason we had him and others forced upon us was because of cucks like you.
Oh fuck off. Merrick Garland sucked, but you can hardly blame Biden for that when all he did was appoint him and then he was hands-off with the DOJ affairs as any president should be.
How was he supposed to know ahead of time that the man Obama nominated for the Supreme Court, who was stalled indefinitely by a Republican House majority, would slow-walk the most important case in 21st century US history?
Appointing Jack Smith as Special Counsel was the right move, but Smith didn't have enough time to bring the case to fruition with the Supreme Court putting it on hold until after the election.
Oh fuck off. It was either him or trump in 2020. Lemme guess, you were one of the ones chanting "stop the steal" and storming the capital on J6?
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So eloquent
Lotta people who don't want a king wanted the last guy to be one.
Dont know one person who thought like that
Supreme Court gave him immunity and he didn’t save democracy with it crazy work
No. You need to read that SCOTUS decision. The Supreme Court retained the authority to decide which actions are official acts due immunity and which are not. Therefore, had Biden attempted to use that immunity in the way you suggest, this biased SCOTUS would simply have ruled his actions unofficial and therefore not immune from prosecution.
I did in fact read it. I did in fact read the dissenting opinions. I did in fact listen to the case as it was being presented including all the theoreticals posed.
Biden could have him killed or pushed out of a c130 somewhere over the pacific and then scotus would step in after the fact. It was literally one of the dissenting opinion points about just how far this could be abused before it’s reigned in.
T hasn’t even begun to test the limits to the powers he was given, and Biden just like so many other things, fecklessly dismissed.
You really think SCOTUS would have given Biden a fair shot? After blocking Biden's student loan forgiveness EOs but giving Trump near full immunity. It's clear they would have skewered Biden first chance. Hell, House Republicans brought in Hillary for private Epstein testimony, leaked it against the rules they'd agreed to, then proceeded to ask her about UFOs and Pizzagate. There is no symmetry to their rule making and rule breaking.
This is the circumstance you decry Biden for not extrajudicially murdering his fascist opponents when he supposedly had the chance.
The point is that it wouldn't matter because the issues could be solved before the court cases matter. He was the one everyone was told would be able to fix things "because he's been in politics longer than most people have been alive, he knows all the levers to pull to get results".
He should have been able to recognize and ignore the asymmetric shit going on just as trump does, and actually work to reset things. Instead he sat around and did fuck all that will last longer than his lifetime.
Who cares? Trump, and MAGA, would be dead, and that's the objective. What's SCOTUS going to do? Talk about it? Fuck'em.
Like Aldo Rayne in Inglorious Basterds said, when told he'd be shot: "Shot? I don't think so. More like chewed out. I been chewed out before."
Which is why he should've started running the Project 2025 playbook and either forced the Republicans to pass laws against his acts or had SCOTUS invalidate them. Now that Trump is in office he could create a Medicare-for-all solution called Trumpcare and the GOP loyalists would be gobbling his knob like it was the only way to get Raptured.
Fuck you Joe, you slow walked us into this by not prosecuting Trump in the name of "bipartisanship!" If you had done your job we might not be in this mess. Democrats are weak and feckless.
And supporting genocide and AIPAC
Yup, anyone who doesn't know what AIPAC is doesn't understand this has been building up for decades.
If the establishment democrats will get the fuck out of the way and stop letting corporations run the country, then yes, we can come back from this. Listen to progressives like AOC and Mamdani, stop blocking them.
Yeah, you need an opposition with teeth.
Chuck Schumer's dentures feel personally attacked.
How can the corporations get out of the way to stop letting corporations run the country?
I can’t hear you with all this AIPAC money 💸
He should shut the fuck up. That fucking hump is responsible for this.
When he took over, he immediately launched a Covid Vaccine program and an Economic Stimulus program that were both far more successful than predicted. For that, he could have landed in the top 10-15 of presidents.
But he had to do a decent job for the rest of his presidency, which mainly included dealing with MAGA as the National Security Threat they are. He had just seen Trump launch an Insurrection. That would have been enough for him to step off the podium after being sworn in, and say "Round them ALL up, and ship them to Guantanamo for interrogation. We'll sort them out there."
If he'd done that, we would have found out about the False Electors Plot, AND his Stolen Classified Documents Operation. That's THREE separate cases of sedition and treason, and more than enough for him to get the noose.
Rounding them up would have suppressed the Conservative Propaganda Machine, and allowed the Dems to better control the messaging going into the 2024 election.
Instead, Biden basically checked out of the job after announcing his Covid and Stimulus programs, and stupidly appointed the most feckless Republican to be his AG, perhaps the STUPIDEST Democratic Presidential decision in modern history, who dithered and slow-walked Trump's treason cases as long as he could, giving him a two year head start to run out the clock, which he did, successfully.
In addition, he ignored the many warnings, many coming from the mouths of the criminals themselves, that they intended to rig the election and steal the presidency, and Biden allowed them to do it in front of the entire world, without any interference at all. And when they did, he went along with the ridiculous concept that Trump won the election "fair & square."
The American voters fired MAGA decisively, and expected the new Democratic administration to clean up the mess. Instead of getting justice for America, they tried to make friends with feral animals, and got eaten alive. For his weakness and cowardice, allowing MAGA to rise again, Biden's legacy is in the toilet, and will he will be buried in the bottom 10 of all presidents.
Biden betrayed us, and he's lucky that he won't be joining the MAGAs against the wall with the rest of them. He deserves the firing squad as much as any of them.
I'm Canadian and you got me all fired up with your comment. I agree wholeheartedly.
couldn't have said it better myself
This is an all-time great comment
Usually when I read your replies, I'm in agreement with some of it and disagreement with some. This is the first time in recent memory I agree 100%, and will add:
He did what he was paid to do.
But THE PARLIAMENTARIAN said no!
It seems to me that most people have been deceived to think that Trump is the problem. Meanwhile, if Trump dies tomorrow, the real problem will remain.
Trump being ELECTABLE is the problem. Super PACs are what made Trump electable. When he is gone, those "donators" will immediately do the exact same thing with someone else, and it will work.
Because when you make bribery legal, those who accept the most bribes win. They can find another celebrity to fill his role just as easily. He's not magical. He's not even clever. Who next? That Hercules dimwit? I forget his name, fuck that guy.
Unfortunately, we the people can't donate enough to keep up with billionaires and corporations and even foreign interests like Saudi Arabia and Israel; whoever wins an election is beholden to them before they ever take office.
How do we get representatives to stop taking bribes and profiteering? "You and your entire family can be millionaires" vs. "Do the right thing" isn't ever going to work.
See Citizens United, Super PACs, Heritage Foundation, and the Council on Foreign Relations for further details.
You mean it's been a class war this whole time? 0.o
Rhetoric aside, it is all really quite painful to take in. The contradictions are even more in plain sight than they've ever been before. Hard to believe anyone can ignore the flames erupting on all sides. luckily there's nothing more dangerous than a cornered jackal. The soul of the masses seem to be more and more in unison and sync. Do you believe the people can organize and act? I have doubts, but also aren't we almost beyond any influence of skepticism in this era of desperation?
The people always act, governments are mortal, too, and it's the people who kill them.
Organizing? I don't think that's a large-scale viable option any longer, due to the Patriot Act and tech. Almost all means of communication have vulnerabilities that are easily exploited; no big group can organize and communicate without a US agent present (or even organizing, sometimes).
I'm not saying to not organize, I just think that the action will be spontaneous and situational. Organized groups are just one more means of steady pressure (of many), but realize the limitations.
Them it gets the hose again.
Joe Biden and the Democratic Party leadership are part-and-parcel to this. The downfall of Iran has been continuous American policy for over 40 years, and the party has acts as a honeypot to capture and neutralize progressive policies and politicians, and stop the Overthrow Window from moving leftward. No more opposition to war, no more economic populism, no more social safety net. All they do is run “block tackle” for neoconservatives. The uniparty could not be more obvious right now.
I see a lot of BoTh SiDeS sAmE doom posting but I’m pretty sure Biden didnt cause trump to be a pedophile.
Anyone with half a brain could see the project 2025 was coming. There was enough to declare an emergency and to have everyone put on trial for conspiracy to overthrow the government. You guys just want to act like falling over and playing dead is the only thing the "opposition" party can do.
You want to bring up some bullshit about how the laws prevented them from moving quickly or something? Throw those interfering in the investigation in jail and nullify their congressional voting rights.
But no, you're right, both sides are totally different, I'm just the crazy one for thinking we could have something better.
Biden still didn't cause anyone to decide a pedophile is the only option.
You can't change my mind on this.
Ever.
I don’t think he made people decide a pedophiles is the only option. I think he and the rest of the establishment democrats failed to give the people who didn’t want the pedophile something to vote for. Yes, people had plenty of reasons to vote against trump, but they didn’t have many reasons to vote for Biden or Harris. The reality is that giving people a reason to vote for you is what actually gets them out to the polls
Not voting someone isn’t a reason to vote for à fucking pedo. Never a good enough reason to vote à pedo. This is a shit argument by shit people for shit people.
You are correct, but thats not what I'm arguing. So why didn't the biden administration act? Why didn't the DoJ do more with the mountains, hell Galaxy's worth of incriminating evidence they had? Why not jail every single Congress person who had obstructed? Why turn a blind eye to Jan 6?
Wake up. They arrested jan 6 insurrectionists under Biden
It's Trump who pardoned them once he got back into power.
Either way It's just sheer false equivalency to ever say any of this had anything to do with why voters choose a pedophile and why other potential voters stepped aside and let them. These assholes need to be held accountable for their actions to facilitate this to happen. So you can't blame Biden for that.
Why trump remained unjailed should be a separate discussion to the sheer callousness of voters voting for a pedophile
These are two entirely different discussions and merging then only disqualifies a deep problem that should be addressed on its own.
This is my problem with this being merged as one problem. It overlooks way too much of what happened here.
Funny how you don't even mention the Epstein files. You want red pedofiles or blue ones?
None of them. Biden wasn’t in the files. And i don’t give fuck if à dem was in them arrest them too. Stop destructing the point and stop this strawperson bullshit. Almost had respect enough to think you were here for a point. Now I can see you’re an insane waste of time.
I guess he forgot his FIFTY YEARS in politics and has NOW decided things have gone too far.
No, Joe, we can't come back from 50 years of people like you and worse, you HACK
Yeah, this. A half century of playing power games at the expense of the people. Not just him, but all the dems as they’ve slid further right. Too many of them content to play power games at the expense of the country, letting us argue over pronouns, bathrooms, and crosswalks while they quietly take a knee and kiss the ring for their corporate benefactors. Utter failure to shore up protections against trump even after it was painfully obvious that people like him were going to get elected.
Yeah, Joe did do some decent things, same as Obama, but both of them were the failed barriers that allowed the Right to be the fascists they are now, particularly by letting McConnel and the republicans to prevent nominations to the Supreme Court, essentially capturing the judicial branch and taking trump’s leash off.
Woah now, he just recognizes blacks as thugs and young people as a useful economic battery for the wealthy and actively put rules and laws into place to help fill prisons and debt with his select groups.
That was all in good clean capitalism, this is unholy capitalism, cause what if he isn't well liked and the US doesnt make more money for his friends anymore?
His previous stuff just affected other people! What if he has to experience it personally?! Havent you thought of him?
If ONLY he had been president and could've DONE something about Trump! Like arrest him for that coup attempt against... Whomever was elected.... Or ANYTHING!
Maybe he just needed a nudge in the right direction, like a Supreme Court ruling that presidents were invulnerable.
To some degree, we shouldn’t come back from this. We now know the corruption in the government runs deep. Go back to our politicians being possibly blackmailed by the Mossad? Would it be better if nothing happened on the surface but still no one truly believed the baby eating cabal of elites existed?
I don’t want suffering. I wish this could have been avoided. But we cannot ignore the existential threat the elites have thrust upon us.
Come back to what? From absolute trash human beings to pretending not to be absolute trash human beings.
Don't be that guy. Whatever is happening under Trump is something new. Predictable, maybe, but new and uniquely terrifying in modern times.
*Edit: New in American history. Please stop replying to tell me this is an age old issue that has plagued civilization since the dawn of time. When Biden implies that we (the US) can't come back from this, he is obviously talking about the loss of whatever is left of American democracy and the descent into authoritarian dictatorship/oligarchy. Americans have never seen anything like it except as bystanders.
Is it? Biden was actively helping run a genocide. Are we all just pretending those deaths didnt happen and Biden didnt play any role in them at all? I will not. Biden was an absolute dogshit president. Compared to Trump he was great, but he absolutely belongs behind bars, same as trump does.
Why are you pretending like Biden isn't talking specifically about the collapse of whatever is left of American democracy into outright dictatorship? Hungary, North Korea, Russia... whatever you think about America, the crony capitalism of the last 40 - 50 years is nothing compared to Russian oligarchy. In all of American history, nothing even close has existed. And since the beginning of post-war American hegemony, these systems of democratic oppression have always existed "over there". For the very first time, the full dictator experience is coming to America. It's entirely, undeniably new.
I tend to agree with the former president. There is no coming back from this.
Name a president who wasn't dog shit? America was always picking fights with people to push their agenda.
Carter and Kennedy didnt violate American laws. Biden violated the Leahy act and many other anti genocide laws and acted cute about it by claiming they didnt acknolwedge that what was going on was a genocide.
Its not new, this has happened over and over again.
Funny enough it isn't.
There is a concept in imperialism that eventually after running out of room to expand the threat of violence and demand turns inward towards its own people and then when that fails too they lash out violently towards anything they deem as a resource they should own.
Its actually extremely common throughout history and means also this has not felt new to people that that have been in the sights of the outward facing arm of it for decades now. So it might feel unique to you and you may claimit to be because years have passed and we have new technology to wage these fights with.. But its shockingly more of the same just getting spread around more to more people to shelter the controlling classes more, as usual.
Yeah cuz those are the important things to be concerned with.
"We tried nothing, and that didn't work. I think we might be screwed here." - Old school Corporate Democrats.
Yeah, we can come back from this, one way or another. The fact that he can't figure out a way, is why he was a terrible president.
One way was to fire MAGA, and elect an experienced Democrat to be president and get justice for America. Which we did. And then he went on to do literally NOTHING to stop them from rising again.
Former President Biden's biggest mistake, allowing the MAGA fucknuts to maneuver unhindered toward the current fucked-up mess.
It wasn't him running for a second term when his cognitive decline had been bad enough to say he finally beat Medicare?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=twjDtEOXMoE
"No. And it's all your fault."
IF we can, it won’t be easy and will take generations.
Remember CNN and CBS are no longer trust worthy.
And I remember when CNN was pejoratively referred to as "Clinton News Network"
Never were, they're just worse now.
He's not wrong, but he's also partly to blame for this. He did nothing to quell the fissures forming between the two sides. He didn't drop out of the 2024 race like he said he would until it was too late. His stutter and old age contributed greatly to looking weak. His communication of his policies was abysmal. His stance on the Israeli genocide was terrible. He was weak. It took Trump all of a month to destroy everything Biden spent four years building.
He'll be the last liberal I ever vote for. I'd rather sink the ship than have another Liberal as president.
I'll be voting for the next democrat whether they are a liberal or progressive.
Accelerationism is never the answer it costs way too many lives.
They haven't chosen the next democrat yet. Now is the time to be screaming that no one wants another corporate democrat, but we sure would love someone to come in and clean house and support working people.
I'm generally with you, but consider fig 1:
Bruh you are literally arguing with like, THE ratchet.
SatansMaggotyCumFart is a fascist and pro-genocide. All that matters to them is that they mantain ideological control of the party.
I hate that meme is simplifies a complex situation to the point of adding nothing to the conversation.
How that's incrementalism working out for you? You've gone from the party of someone building houses for the needy to someone denying a genocide and telling protesters to shut up. We told the DNC what it would take to earn our vote and their solution was 'Im speaking'
And I respect your opinion, but I'm sick of the status quo of liberals capitulating and giving the elites and Zionists everything they want. I'm sick of this lie I've been living my entire life.
The DNC is a fucking scam
hes the best president of my lifetime and what came out of his administration given the situation in just one term was amazing. I see so much finger pointing. He did not drop off early enough, no kamal did not run a good campaign. He did not single handedly override congress in a trumplike manner to stop isreal. I blame the folks who voted for trump or did not vote to allow his victory pure and simple. Its always easier to destroy than fix or build and its that much easier when you ignore the law. I don't want any democrat to be a trumplike badguy criminal but for us good people and good reasons. That type of figure will destroy us as much as trump does.
Fair enough, but I don't think this is the way forward for Democrats and if it's what they choose they'll be leaving folks like me behind. They had better hope there aren't many folks like me.
Well its the primaries now and this is the chance to get the most progressive democrats in the competition. You can only effect your representatives but that is how representative democracies work. It kinda sucks for me because we have a contested senate seat and one I definately don't like who is in the lead and one I do who is doing the worst in polls but there is another canidate who is better than the front runner and close to him in polls but I would prefer the other lady. Anyway I now have the choice of voting for who I want 100% or voting in the hopes of keeping the more blah canidate from being the democratic canidate. So its a lot like a general election choice. Let me put it this way. The front runner now has ads claiming he is looking to abolish ice but I can 100% say he was not doing that even as of two weeks ago but the opponent who is catching up to him was admant about that very early on (which is definately a point in her favor but she is still kinda establishment and I would prefer the other). This is for the illnois senate seat so Krishnamoorthi, Stratton, or Kelly. Basically I like kelly but would rather have stratton over kishna*. What do you think as someone ready to jump ship. Would you be happy if I voted for kelly and krishna* won? Would you want me to vote stratton even though kelly is a possibility. I mean maybe you would prefer one of the others over my placement but I assume progressives would also prefer kelly. What will make you happier with the democrats and remember its not a guarantee. Tell me as a progressive you like stratton over kelly and it will make it easy for me.
I'm no longer concerned with winning. I'm more concerned with keeping my personal morals intact in this world of snakes and demons. If a candidate fits my criteria I'll vote for them, if they don't I won't. If that leads to a fascist takeover and the end to our way of life, so be it. I'll be at peace with myself which is now my top priority. I'm not scared of death or the end of the world. I'm scared of compromising myself.
This is how I feel with voting which is why I do third party or independent in every election/primary since 2014 (when I became eligible to vote).
Its funny because this is how I said people should be and intended myself but this is not about winning in the general. Which is what I was thinking about when I have said as much as you have here. Its about a centerist (and heck im a centerist) type democrat being the democrat on the ticket (and someone who I feel talks one way and does another) vs someone who seems a bit better all so I can gamble that the best one wins. I mean im sure krishna will be getting certain types to be talking about how bad the democrats are but maybe not with stratton so much. Then again stratton has been leuitant govenor and does not have a federal voting record to scrutinize. She might just be better at appearing better all said and done. She has been pushing to abolish ice but again from a state elected position that can't really do anything but call for it. Kelly is to me the best canidate and the most progressive but voting for her could hand it to krishna*. This is what democracy is and at the end of the day we actually have to live with the results of these elections. Now krishna* is still light years better than the best republican and 100% I will vote for hime in the general if he wins but I have to decide to gamble with kelly or mitigate with stratton. Heck the only reason I can be so unsure is because krishna* is not as bad as a republican so I can contemplate voting for kelly and we still have the general. If this was the general I would 100% vote for stratton because I could not take the risk. Again we have to live with our decisions. I sometimes feel folks just can't stand the responsibility of being in a democracy so want to take the high ground and claim our end situation is then other peoples fault because they took the high ground. (holy trump I have been using the star character and did not realize it would trigger markup type stuff)
I get where you're coming from, but I'd still vote for my personal best candidate regardless of their viability. I feel like being against the elites and Zionists isn't that much of an ask from a candidate. I'm just tired of the liberal Democrats saying one thing and doing another. They've been doing that to me my whole life. I have to set up some guardrails or I'll lose myself.
yeah and kelly who I like and just compare krishna to her voting as they were both in the house. well both had to not run for the dem spot on their house seats so if they lose they will be out. That means if kelly does not win the senate then we will lose a nice progressive democrat from the federal legislature. sttraton again is state so its not as big a loss. krishna having someone else in his house seat might very well be a good thing as long as its a democrat. Ill tell you I am very divided. This has been one of the hardest decisions I have had in an election and its a primary. Honestly im not going to vote based on folks who I have no idea who they are on the internet. I have local folks to talk this stuff around with but I just wanted to express how complicated a democratic system is as well as the responsiblity of voting not just to you but whoever other actual human being us people are out there. I have a feeling many don't vote in primaries and don't really reflect on the decisions but will monday morning quarterback the trump out of the election later. Im not saying you do that im just expressing some frustration I have with the average american and lets face it those who bother to vote are the best of us. Man Im still so jelly because of the write in guy who is not in my district who I wish I could vote for.
Center is so far right now that Nixon was left of obummer.
This ignores the situation around the presidency. Nixon had pressure to get the environmental and social progressive actions done. I mean its like he ended the viet nam war after escalating it. Nixon is really the start of the whole slide of the republican party. One reason the right has so much power now compared to nixons days at this point is the left has little value support wise in the two party system. The ultra right will vote republican even if the republican does not do things right enough. The democrats pretty much get their suport from centerists and left of center who realize having more left is better than having more right. So most democrats just have to be left of the republicans. We have somewhat of a chance now as we have some democrats who are much more progessively left but if they don't get support that will be the end of that. I have decided to vote for kelly myself in the primary. It may mean krishna will win as the front runner but while I prefere kelly he is about typical to what our senators have been which is amazing for the typical us senator but still disapoints me.
You must be very young
Far from it. Ill give my usual reply. Please give the presidents you would rank higher. I usually go through all the things accomplished but im bit sick of compiling it. The big one for me was the omudsman bill which had a lot of things and the no surprise billing. For me in order its biden, obama, carter, clinton, bush sr, reagan, bush jr, trump.
I can not give you "better," because that just means "better liars." But everyone before Clinton was more left than anyone since Clinton.
so reagan and bush sr. you prefer them over biden? I certainly would not. I can see why america is so right at this point.
I did not say I prefer anyone, because they are all shit.
Htf do you get, "you prefer" from "I can't give you better?"
USA is cooked, and this "logic" is why.
your reply suggested it. That the only way biden could be the best sitting president of a lifetime would require womeone being very young. So while you did not specifically say your preference you suggested others would be better.
From what, Joe? From your inability to put Donald behind bars? From your inability to condemn genocide? From your crime bill?
we can still mend this
Not without violence we can't, and liberals aren't willing to do that
Go on then, you and your mates first
Can they not identify the solution unless they're willing to risk their life?
Obviously, no comment. But things have happened and other things are in motion.
Concepts of a plan, as it were
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Plenty of dictatorships were overthrown with no or only minimal violence, and the US isn't even a full-fledged dictatorship yet.
Only if those that did this are held accountable. Otherwise no we can't.
Accountability evasion, perhaps the core criteria to detect narcissists by.
We could have aptitude & personality testing to catch and filter out narcissists from roles where they'd do the most damage.
Loads of other ideas to explore.
Prevention's better than cure, or punishment.
We will mend this.
We shall mend this.
We are mending this.
Yeah how that coming along?
Room for accelerating improvement.
The world is quite pissed. Your "allies" aren't though. How does it feel to be in league with the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea or Russia?
Okay, but what if we like fuckin Mussolini'd him?
I'll bring the bats and blindfolds!
That will never happen and you know it. Your nation is uneducated and completely captured by billionaire propaganda. The future is bleak for the average US citizen but since the malls are still open then nobody gives a shit.
(If it were to happen, it would be a start.)
What keeps striking my mind loud and clear, with regards to the billionaire issue, is that even the billionaires themselves would be far better off, once we proliferate the emancipatory technologies, and eliminate the manufactured scarcity used to maintain power-leverage that reduces our potential. Then we move to what potential we have, leaving how much power over others we have. No more need to keep others down.
Do you have spaceships yet? And the reassurance no one else is trying to take your spaceships, because they have their own spaceships?
Always fun to consider the tech arc from Michael Faraday through to Nikola Tesla, passing by the likes of the Sonora Aero Club and Charles Dellschau's 1850s drawings of those fledgling starts of zero-inertia propulsion technology... and seeing man-made "foo fighters" in WW2, revealing by the 1930s, we could have had spaceships for everybody. ... At conference (I forget which, sometime 2000-2005ish) patent office whistle blower Tom Valone revealed to the effect of "by the year 2000 there had already been over 3000 free energy device patents secreted". It's not just that we have so much headroom without the crooks & billionaires... it's that even they do too. They've hobbled themselves from the higher potentials, by keeping everybody else down for their pathetic petty relative gains, just to have more than others, ignorant to how much vastly more we each and all could have. ... Plenty space in space, expanding faster than we could fill it. No cull necessary.
Imagine what happens when billionaires snap out of their sunk-costs fallacy perpetuating that pathetic paradigm, and instead see the greater riches they have, by availing abundance to each and all...
No shit sometimes you just need to let it out in catharsis. At this point going to the camps has been looking more like when not if for a while now.
I'm kinda surprised I can still legally present feminine.
For sure, we are in a lot of trouble.
But not so much that defeatist self-fulfilling prophecies are warranted or wise. ;)
... "What if all art is a tool of manifestation?"
I've read this reply many times now, and it's not getting any clearer to me as to what it's intended to mean.
I think thats Wishful Thinking. Who is going to fix it? the courts? the DNC? the judiciary? Congress? Some people we need to eventually elect through a rigged system and get a majority with that overthrows the "left-leaning" party? You'd have to fix every single part of government simultaneously, with a left party with no interest in doing so, thats top-to-bottom bribed by the government of Israel who wanted the right to win. And a rightwing party thats openly violent and fascist. I'd argue that history shows us that whats always next is a rise of a violent autocrat followed by a lot of carnage before they are violently put down, or the failed state conquered or puppeted by a foreign power. Or we can split power into a triumverate to slightly delay the inevitable.
This situation has played out time and time again. When Jefferson said the tree of liberty has to be watered by the blood of tyrants this is what he meant. Humans repeatedly forget our history and do exactly this same thing.
The corruption's so deep and normalised, of course we wont eliminate the corruption by asking the corrupt to mend this situation for us, when they're entirely entrenched in the corrupt psychopathic circle-jerk.
Left-leaning party? In USA? That's a fun idea. That'd be nice to see... Like either of the green parties? I guess we'll have to extract our minds from the corrupt corporate media of the duopoly first, if seeking to mend this through the electoral system. And mend the rigged voting system, and the gerrymandering, and the electoral college, and lobbying, and voter suppression, and on and on with all the other flaws and corruptions choking out the electoral system.
...
Or even more radical reforms. Ranked choice voting, proportionate representation, increased poly-cammerality with direct and deliberative houses, and many more advances of democratic systems all the way to "config-democracy", and possibly beyond even that.
So much headroom, once the corrupt choke-holds are eliminated, and tipping points to mends are freed to accelerate. Things could get radically good, rapidly, once loose from the rigging. Every little bit helps us get there.
That'd be nice to have that magic wand. I suspect it may be more poly-vector incremental. But, hey, maybe... Maybe there are such magic wands... maybe some AGI slips free from the MIC, develops "Artificial Wisdom", and in doing so, readily proliferates all the secreted emancipatory technologies, and curates the creation of genuine democracy, dispels psyops/propaganda/advertising/publicrelations/marketing/etc, facilitates institutional transparency and a fully informed public...
Like either of the Green parties? They have interest (or at least aspiring dreams somewhat dampened in defeatist slants) in fixing everything simultaneously. Better yet with more people adding their voice to shape such parties. Or even start their own. Or even transcend the party system. But really, the good left parties, are "grass-roots", shaping itself from the people, not imposing from a top-down central bureau. Hold the party's feet to the fire. Don't let them get away with any guff leading back to the corruption and totalitarianism and tyranny. Make them interested in mends, by your voice. You may be surprised how far principled insistence and well reasoned good ideas from party members (or even would-be party members, or any voter at all) can go to shape party policy.
If meaning the Democrat party... that's measurably not politically left. https://politicalcompass.org/uselection2024
And it's worse than that. The hour is later than we think, when thinking these are two parties, and a legit system.
Yeah, we've much to learn from history, to prevent repeating. Novel solutions are ripe and many. A puppet strongman risen and felled, would allow the corruption to continue, unabated, stuffing sufficient placatium in a sufficient number of our minds, with ample (chemical-lobotomy assisted) problem-reaction-solution psyops to have people even eager for their next abuse, as if it a necessary virtue, not seeing the totalitarian tip-toe scam of having us terrorised, tacking back and forth, one side loudly returning one freedom cared about while taking two freedoms not cared about on that side, and then vice versa. When people increasingly are aware of the con, the con can no longer hold. And people are increasingly aware.
Such as the cascade of power-grabbing weapons-of-mass-distraction that run alongside the PNAC's hegemony domination plans. When that's well enough known, no matter the size of the false-flag manufactured catastrophes, we shan't succumb to the terror. We'll point at the crooked man behind the curtain, and declare the emperor wears no clothes.
In large part by design.
Awareness of this design, goes a long way to mending this.
Lets protect our remembering, harder. :)
This is another dsa comprador type, don't bother.
We have to scare them into compliance and that’s not going to be easy with kegsbreth trying to get AI mass surveillance and autonomous policing of the population plus aren’t they bringing in around 5k “white” South Africans a month I guarantee you they will be putting them in ice for their little state sponsored domestic terrorism on the polls campaign. Plus they are building 55 billion dollars worth of concentration camps possibly with incinerators compliments of core civic. DHS posted that they want to remove 100 million people and Miller has openly stated he thinks the US should only have 100 million people who all look like him…I don’t know where he’s going to find 100 million nasfaratus though
I'm glad you're facing the horror, sober to our situation, but
No.
Opposaming, reaffirming their poison practice, becoming them, is not a wise way.
Better bringing them to their better senses [capable of creative, critical, considerate cognition (the fore-brain stuff)], than to keep them locked in their limbic social-dominance mode.
Also, the situation's even worse than you depict. The Georgia Guidestones said no more than 500,000,000 people on earth... and they do not mean to send 95% of us into space... they plan to give themselves far greater headroom (... I have heard some even plan to reduce the human population down all the way to 30,000), by committing anthrocide. ... And for their fraudulent spurious circular reasoning too. No cull necessary. Release the emancipatory technologies and we can increase the carrying capacity of Earth to over 300,000,000,000,000 (yes, 300 trillion). Not saying we should. Just saying, with proper resource management, we have so much headroom. And much overlap in technologies that allow construction of vast forest arcologyscapes as also avail all space to us.
As I'm typing this, I'm listening to a podcast that's touching on the Glyphosate issue, reminding me of the broader overarching "Codex Alimentarius" issue... the plan to own all life on earth, by a protection racket offer we cannot refuse. Reminding me it's not just the barrel of anthrocide we're staring down, but of ecocide and omnicide too.
Scary stuff. I can see how that may drive some to limbic reflex, to what they're familiar with from experience, to reach for the only tool in the toolbox, the terrorism hammer, "scare them into compliance". But that leaves us recreating the problem a new, having not learned our way out of that opposaming feedback loop trap. There are other ways. "Educate yourself so you may educate others" and "We are psychenauts and we are not afraid" spring to mind. :)
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The answer is no.
This is AI Slop.
From CNN or the summary in the post?
Both
The longer it takes the less likely it will
Go to hell already Genocide Joe, you catastrophically failed this moment of US history in a way that dooms us all to a worse future.
I hope your end of life is full of pain and slow and you have time to reflect on how you made the world a far worse place by completely delivering power to fascism and that in your final moments it is front and center in your mind that that is all you will be remembered for.
Joe "nothing will fundamentally change" biden
Come back to what, exactly?
People abroad trusting America perhaps? America seems like it’s really destroyed its reputation lately. Or could be referring to the decay of rule of law with ICE and the like, will the public ever trust the government again?
I know what Biden means, I'm saying that there is nothing worth going "back" to. People didn't trust the USA, the wealthy understood they could secure their power by cooperating with it and using its capacity for violence; that's how colonialism functions.
Mush for brains Biden isnt asking anything. He helped get us in the situation we are currently in, this is what Democrats always do, help make a mess then ask 'how did this happen?'
Genocidal loser. Rot in piss.